*****New Craig Levein Poll 31/08*****

[merrymac]

we all want the same mate.

These are not facts these are wishful thinking/your expectations

You jumped on others for doing exactly the same thing??

At least be consistent

Also not blind can read normal size text thanks.

Edited September 12, 2019 by merrymac

[Jambo-Fox]

3 minutes ago, merrymac said:

we all want the same mate.

These are not facts these are wishful thinking/your expectations

You jumped on others for doing exactly the same thing??

At least be consistent

 

I can’t predict the future but if these things happen they will become facts!

 

Other people referring to results of other polls (that they have seen) .... but not sharing the results when requested is disappointing....

[merrymac]

2 minutes ago, Jambo-Fox said:

I can’t predict the future but if these things happen they will become facts!

 

Other people referring to results of other polls (that they have seen) .... but not sharing the results when requested is disappointing....

And if they don't ? is the obvious question.

You have given your side of the picture, but what happens if the results continue to be very poor(being nice)?

Would be interested to hear your take on that circumstance.

[Jambo-Fox]

16 minutes ago, merrymac said:

And if they don't ? is the obvious question.

You have given your side of the picture, but what happens if the results continue to be very poor(being nice)?

Would be interested to hear your take on that circumstance.

As in any business if ‘results’ are not forthcoming (and it’s deemed that improvements are necessary) changes may be required!

 

The key questions are;

 

1. What timeframe are results measured over?

and

2. What changes would be required?

 

As I’m not in a position to make these decisions I can’t give an answer.

However I would suggest perhaps December could be the time for a review and some changes in the leadership positions at the club might be necessary!!

[GinRummy]

5 minutes ago, Jambo-Fox said:

As in any business if ‘results’ are not forthcoming (and it’s deemed that improvements are necessary) changes may be required!

 

The key questions are;

 

1. What timeframe are results measured over?

and

2. What changes would be required?

 

As I’m not in a position to make these decisions I can’t give an answer.

However I would suggest perhaps December could be the time for a review and some changes in the leadership positions at the club might be necessary!!

 

So if we don't win a league game 'till December we should mix it up a bit? Daring! what if the changes don't work though?

[Ron Burgundy]

2 hours ago, farin said:

 

We haven't won the LC for 57 years & people seriously think we’ll win it under Levein. 

 

This.

 

 

[merrymac]

13 minutes ago, Jambo-Fox said:

As in any business if ‘results’ are not forthcoming (and it’s deemed that improvements are necessary) changes may be required!

 

The key questions are;

 

1. What timeframe are results measured over?

and

2. What changes would be required?

 

As I’m not in a position to make these decisions I can’t give an answer.

However I would suggest perhaps December could be the time for a review and some changes in the leadership positions at the club might be necessary!!

Scenario 1 J-F -League:- 17 games until winter break average 2 points per game, 36 points and top 4 

Scenario 2 - out of league cup 4 points adrift at the bottom by end of October.

Review in December - really?

 

[The Old Tolbooth]

16 minutes ago, Jambo-Fox said:

As in any business if ‘results’ are not forthcoming (and it’s deemed that improvements are necessary) changes may be required!

 

The key questions are;

 

1. What timeframe are results measured over?

and

2. What changes would be required?

 

As I’m not in a position to make these decisions I can’t give an answer.

However I would suggest perhaps December could be the time for a review and some changes in the leadership positions at the club might be necessary!!

 

He's taken 3 points out of a possible 33, and all you're worried about is the League Cup? 

 

[Last Laff]

16 hours ago, Pasquale for King said:

Definitely, she is going to have to find someone to advise her on a new DoF and let that person pick the new head/assistant coaches if we are to progress on the park.

 

I wonder if Michael O’Neil might like that role on the part time basis. 

[Pasquale for King]

1 hour ago, The Old Tolbooth said:

 

He's taken 3 points out of a possible 33, and all you're worried about is the League Cup? 

 

Scary stuff eh 🙈?

[Pasquale for King]

1 hour ago, Last Laff said:

 

I wonder if Michael O’Neil might like that role on the part time basis. 

I’m not sure if that can be done, worth asking? He has got a huge compensation deal and is on great money, I think he will have bigger fish to fry unfortunately. But you don’t get if you don’t ask.

[Last Laff]

20 minutes ago, Pasquale for King said:

I’m not sure if that can be done, worth asking? He has got a huge compensation deal and is on great money, I think he will have bigger fish to fry unfortunately. But you don’t get if you don’t ask.

 

I’m not even suggesting he leaves his role in Ireland.  We shouldn’t have one person overseeing everything and O’Neil could bring something to the table in terms of continuing structure on a part time basis.  It would if anything show ambition even if he was to say no or suggest Austin as Head Coach. 

[Pasquale for King]

1 minute ago, Last Laff said:

 

I’m not even suggesting he leaves his role in Ireland.  We shouldn’t have one person overseeing everything and O’Neil could bring something to the table in terms of continuing structure on a part time basis.  It would if anything show ambition even if he was to say no or suggest Austin as Head Coach. 

Worth a try.

[Pasquale for King]

4 hours ago, merrymac said:

And if they don't ? is the obvious question.

You have given your side of the picture, but what happens if the results continue to be very poor(being nice)?

Would be interested to hear your take on that circumstance.

 

[merrymac]

2 hours ago, Pasquale for King said:

 

The silence is deafening !!

[Jambo-Fox]

8 hours ago, merrymac said:

Scenario 1 J-F -League:- 17 games until winter break average 2 points per game, 36 points and top 4 

Scenario 2 - out of league cup 4 points adrift at the bottom by end of October.

Review in December - really?

 

We will NOT be bottom by the end of October - get over it .... 

[merrymac]

Just now, Jambo-Fox said:

We will NOT be bottom by the end of October - get over it .... 

I sincerely hope not.

What fact are you basing that on?

[Jambo-Fox]

8 hours ago, GinRummy said:

 

So if we don't win a league game 'till December we should mix it up a bit? Daring! what if the changes don't work though?

Is that what you want??

[Jambo-Fox]

1 minute ago, merrymac said:

I sincerely hope not.

What fact are you basing that on?

Stupid posts on JKB - Mac-Merry 

[Jambo-Fox]

8 hours ago, The Old Tolbooth said:

 

He's taken 3 points out of a possible 33, and all you're worried about is the League Cup? 

 

 

I’d rather win the League Cup than the SC - reason I’ve never seen Hearts win the League Cup!

[Jambo-Fox]

2 hours ago, merrymac said:

The silence is deafening !!

Read the reply

[merrymac]

2 minutes ago, Jambo-Fox said:

Stupid posts on JKB - Mac-Merry 

So nothing then

Mr Dyslexic

[merrymac]

Just now, Jambo-Fox said:

Read the reply

Two hours to think that one up

Working the few brain cells hard then

[Jambo-Fox]

1 minute ago, merrymac said:

So nothing then

Mr Dyslexic

Says Mr Lothian East!

 

Why are you so anti Craig Levein? Why do you appear to be anti Hearts??

[Jambo-Fox]

2 minutes ago, merrymac said:

Two hours to think that one up

Working the few brain cells hard then

Eh some of us have a life to live and don’t spend all our time on this forum ...

 

PS Your brain cell insult is not nice!!

[merrymac]

Just now, Jambo-Fox said:

Says Mr Lothian East!

 

Why are you so anti Craig Levein? Why do you appear to be anti Hearts??

You need to see about that problem. Sherlock. Not the only things you have got the wrong way round.

I am certainly not anti hearts

I have run out of patience with CL (along with the vast majority of JKB it would seem).

We get the same stuff trotted out time after time  and if you are gullible enough so be it

[merrymac]

2 minutes ago, Jambo-Fox said:

Eh some of us have a life to live and don’t spend all our time on this forum ...

 

PS Your brain cell insult is not nice!!

Yet here you are again

Ok your many many brain cells, I stand corrected

[Jambo-Fox]

3 minutes ago, merrymac said:

You need to see about that problem. Sherlock. Not the only things you have got the wrong way round.

I am certainly not anti hearts

I have run out of patience with CL (along with the vast majority of JKB it would seem).

We get the same stuff trotted out time after time  and if you are gullible enough so be it

Your words convey an anti Hearts theme / opinion (perhaps it’s just how you express yourself?) - but I’ll always defend Hearts .....

 

[Jambo-Fox]

5 minutes ago, merrymac said:

Yet here you are again

Ok your many many brain cells, I stand corrected

Stupid, insulting and not necessary!

[merrymac]

1 minute ago, Jambo-Fox said:

Your words convey an anti Hearts theme / opinion (perhaps it’s just how you express yourself?) - but I’ll always defend Hearts .....

 

No anti Hearts theme maybe the fact that you seem to get things the wrong way round may contribute.

I have been a Hearts fan  since the age of five, and that is a long time ago!!

If you want to paint frustration at the current situation  which has been going on for far too long now as anti Hearts that is your choice.

I can assure you my views are shared by a growing number of supporters.

Blind optimism has never been my way, but if that is your path, then good for you.

I initially commented  regarding you calling out posters for lack of facts, and you then proceeded  to produce personal opinion with no basis in fact.

Nothing personal against you, just a different viewpoint as to how we fix things.

 

[Jambo-Fox]

3 minutes ago, merrymac said:

No anti Hearts theme maybe the fact that you seem to get things the wrong way round may contribute.

I have been a Hearts fan  since the age of five, and that is a long time ago!!

If you want to paint frustration at the current situation  which has been going on for far too long now as anti Hearts that is your choice.

I can assure you my views are shared by a growing number of supporters.

Blind optimism has never been my way, but if that is your path, then good for you.

I initially commented  regarding you calling out posters for lack of facts, and you then proceeded  to produce personal opinion with no basis in fact.

Nothing personal against you, just a different viewpoint as to how we fix things.

 

👍 I respect your comments 👍 

 

 😂 .... suggest you get out a bit more, if you are stuck inside the Robins Neuk - it closed a long time ago 😂 

[Adam_the_legend]

22 minutes ago, Jambo-Fox said:

Your words convey an anti Hearts theme / opinion (perhaps it’s just how you express yourself?) - but I’ll always defend Hearts .....

 

Being anti CL does not equal being anti Hearts. He is not the club ffs!!

[merrymac]

13 minutes ago, Adam_the_legend said:

Being anti CL does not equal being anti Hearts. He is not the club ffs!!

A man who gets  it.

i

[merrymac]

23 minutes ago, Jambo-Fox said:

👍 I respect your comments 👍 

 

 😂 .... suggest you get out a bit more, if you are stuck inside the Robins Neuk - it closed a long time ago 😂 

Get out plenty lots of fresh air ,oxygen  good for the brain.

What is that ?

Need to go now its lights out in the Nursing home

[Bring Back Paulo Sergio]

16 minutes ago, Adam_the_legend said:

Being anti CL does not equal being anti Hearts. He is not the club ffs!!

Some people have difficulty seperating Levein from the club. Would rather see Hearts fail than remove the cause.

 

They think they're supporting the club but they're not.

[Jambo-Fox]

1 minute ago, merrymac said:

Get out plenty lots of fresh air ,oxygen  good for the brain.

What is that ?

Need to go now its lights out in the Nursing home

Sleep well old man 💤💤💤💤

[Jambo-Fox]

19 minutes ago, Adam_the_legend said:

Being anti CL does not equal being anti Hearts. He is not the club ffs!!

If your actions (anti CL) damage the club, the results are anti Hearts!

[Cruyff Turn]

3 minutes ago, Bring Back Paulo Sergio said:

Some people have difficulty seperating Levein from the club. Would rather see Hearts fail than remove the cause.

 

They think they're supporting the club but they're not.

 

Just now, Jambo-Fox said:

If your actions (anti CL) damage the club, the results are anti Hearts!

[Adam_the_legend]

3 minutes ago, Jambo-Fox said:

If your actions (anti CL) damage the club, the results are anti Hearts!

Sorry, so we can’t criticise a Manager who is performing poorly?! How exactly does that damage the club?

[1874robbo]

16 minutes ago, Jambo-Fox said:

If your actions (anti CL) damage the club, the results are anti Hearts!

The head coach is doing more damage imo 

[Guest ToqueJambo]

14 hours ago, farin said:

 

We haven't won the LC for 57 years & people seriously think we’ll win it under Levein. 

 

 

The closest we came recently was under Gary Locke so anything is possible!

[Pasquale for King]

1 hour ago, ToqueJambo said:

 

The closest we came recently was under Gary Locke so anything is possible!

It was Mcglynn that got us there, Locke just lost the final then the next semi with a two man advantage in extra time. 

[The Old Tolbooth]

10 hours ago, Jambo-Fox said:

I’d rather win the League Cup than the SC - reason I’ve never seen Hearts win the League Cup!

 

Is your desire to see us win the League Cup so great that you'd be happy to accept relegation just to see it? 

 

For what it's worth, I'd rather have the Scottish Cup every time, it's not even close. 

[Jambo-Fox]

14 minutes ago, The Old Tolbooth said:

 

Is your desire to see us win the League Cup so great that you'd be happy to accept relegation just to see it? 

 

For what it's worth, I'd rather have the Scottish Cup every time, it's not even close. 

NO

[GinRummy]

9 hours ago, Jambo-Fox said:

If your actions (anti CL) damage the club, the results are anti Hearts!

 

Whereas CL is damaging the club right now. 

[mitch41]

10 hours ago, Adam_the_legend said:

Being anti CL does not equal being anti Hearts. He is not the club ffs!!

Jambo-Fox what are you on about.

Jambo-Hearts saying it's anti Hearts to posters just cannot be levelled at fans who criticise the wrongdoings that go on at the club. When Hearts fans shouted to get rid of Cathro and Ann Budge sacked him was that anti Hearts ? 

I don't think so.

Edited September 13, 2019 by mitch41

[leginten]

The "anti-Hearts" chat in its current form on here is the domain of the cretin. I first encountered it during the Romanov era, when anyone who dared to suggest that things might not be proceeding in the best possible way was smeared as "anti-Hearts", most frequently by a cartoon character poster who may or may not have had links to certain dodgy posters who were trying to have pro-Romanov propaganda placed on Kickback.

 

It seems to me that you can only be anti-Hearts if you support or promote things that are damaging the club. So for example if you were still pleading Cathro's case long after it became apparent that he was a dud, then I would say you were anti-Hearts. There's an obvious parallel there with our situation at the moment. And given that Ann Budge herself has said that the club expects criticism when things are not right, I don't see how it can be interpreted as anti-Hearts to state the bleeding obvious. Even Levein's latest unsolicited ramblings make it clear that he knows where the problem lies - and it's not with the support.

Edited September 13, 2019 by leginten

[Hercules]

2 hours ago, mitch41 said:

Jambo-Fox what are you on about.

Jambo-Hearts saying it's anti Hearts to posters just cannot be levelled at fans who criticise the wrongdoings that go on at the club. When Hearts fans shouted to get rid of Cathro and Ann Budge sacked him was that anti Hearts ? 

I don't think so.

Jambo Fox, like many on here, has obscured vision. Their noses are so far up the establishments arseholes, that they’re blinded. Can’t see past their Queen and their poster boy.  Admittedly, he’s not the worst though. Not yet. 

[Jambo-Fox]

10 minutes ago, Hercules said:

Jambo Fox, like many on here, has obscured vision. Their noses are so far up the establishments arseholes, that they’re blinded. Can’t see past their Queen and their poster boy.  Admittedly, he’s not the worst though. Not yet. 

😂 never say never!!

[1874robbo]

48 minutes ago, leginten said:

The "anti-Hearts" chat in its current form on here is the domain of the cretin. I first encountered it during the Romanov era, when anyone who dared to suggest that things might not be proceeding in the best possible way was smeared as "anti-Hearts", most frequently by a cartoon character poster who may or may not have had links to certain dodgy posters who were trying to have pro-Romanov propaganda placed on Kickback.

 

It seems to me that you can only be anti-Hearts if you support or promote things that are damaging the club. So for example if you were still pleading Cathro's case long after it became apparent that he was a dud, then I would say you were anti-Hearts. There's an obvious parallel there with our situation at the moment. And given that Ann Budge herself has said that the club expects criticism when things are not right, I don't see how it can be interpreted as anti-Hearts to state the bleeding obvious. Even Levein's latest unsolicited ramblings make it clear that he knows where the problem lies - and it's not with the support.

Good post