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*****New Craig Levein Poll 31/08*****  

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  1. 1. Should craig Levein....

    • Remain in position as head coach and director of football
    • Leave/be removed from his role as head coach but remain at the club as Director of football
    • Leave/be removed from his role as director of football but remain at the club as head coach
    • Leave/be removed from the club completely


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Pasquale for King
2 minutes ago, 1874robbo said:

He is bulletproof though.

most managers would have fell on their sword after Livingston. 

So far anyway, I think the protests will move on this weekend.

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Pasquale for King
Just now, Agentjambo said:

Budge to blame for giving him too much control at the club...blind faith if you like.

Definitely, she is going to have to find someone to advise her on a new DoF and let that person pick the new head/assistant coaches if we are to progress on the park.

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ToqueJambo
28 minutes ago, Pasquale for King said:

What a delusional man.

 

The things is the eejits who have vocally wanted Levein out (and anyone appointed by him, eg Neilson) since he walked in the door mean that Levein can ignore a certain amount of the criticism he's getting now. They've actually harmed their case by banging on about Levein and jumping on anything he does wrong and blowing it up and largely ignoring the good things he's done for 5 years (I include Gary Mackay and Michael Stewart in that group).

 

There actually is a growing strong case for sacking Levein as head coach but a lot of the people calling for his sacking don't have any credibility because it's so obvious they hate the guy for some reason. When the bulk of the Heart support let Levein know they want him out he'll know it and he'll be off. 

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FruitJuice
1 minute ago, ToqueJambo said:

 

The things is the eejits who have vocally wanted Levein out (and anyone appointed by him, eg Neilson) since he walked in the door mean that Levein can ignore a certain amount of the criticism he's getting now. They've actually harmed their case by banging on about Levein and jumping on anything he does wrong and blowing it up and largely ignoring the good things he's done for 5 years (I include Gary Mackay and Michael Stewart in that group).

 

There actually is a growing strong case for sacking Levein as head coach but a lot of the people calling for his sacking don't have any credibility because it's so obvious they hate the guy for some reason. When the bulk of the Heart support let Levein know they want him out he'll know it and he'll be off. 

What's that law called when a discussion gets to the stage that Hitler gets mentioned? The levein haters getting mentioned is the kickback equivalent.  

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Jodami

I am quite happy for him to cling on as long as possible before it becomes absolutely untenable. In those circumstances it becomes almost impossible to keep him in any capacity due to the toxicity. 

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ToqueJambo
2 minutes ago, FruitJuice said:

What's that law called when a discussion gets to the stage that Hitler gets mentioned? The levein haters getting mentioned is the kickback equivalent.  

 

I remember thinking under Romanov that more than a few Hibs fans became so obsessed with bashing Hearts they forgot to support their own team. I think quite a few Hearts fans have fallen down that hole.

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14 minutes ago, ToqueJambo said:

 

The things is the eejits who have vocally wanted Levein out (and anyone appointed by him, eg Neilson) since he walked in the door mean that Levein can ignore a certain amount of the criticism he's getting now. They've actually harmed their case by banging on about Levein and jumping on anything he does wrong and blowing it up and largely ignoring the good things he's done for 5 years (I include Gary Mackay and Michael Stewart in that group).

 

There actually is a growing strong case for sacking Levein as head coach but a lot of the people calling for his sacking don't have any credibility because it's so obvious they hate the guy for some reason. When the bulk of the Heart support let Levein know they want him out he'll know it and he'll be off. 

And yet he is still here.

90%+ on a pro Levein Forum want him gone.

Other social media outlets it is higher than that.

Wether you love/hate Levein there is no support for him to continue.

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ToqueJambo
3 minutes ago, Jodami said:

I am quite happy for him to cling on as long as possible before it becomes absolutely untenable. In those circumstances it becomes almost impossible to keep him in any capacity due to the toxicity. 

 

I honestly think Budge will kick him back upstairs or tell him to take a leave before it gets to that stage. There are really only two scenarios here. Either we'll get to the cup semi and climb up the league, even if it's a slow climb - Levein will stay. We'll lose the next few games, including a derby and the cup tie, meaning we're anchored to the bottom - Levein will walk or be pushed. It'll be interesting to see what happens if we win a couple and lose a couple and win the cup tie. I suspect unless we have a replacement lined up, Levein will stay rather than having McPhee and Daly in charge for a month or so.

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FruitJuice
1 minute ago, ToqueJambo said:

 

I remember thinking under Romanov that more than a few Hibs fans became so obsessed with bashing Hearts they forgot to support their own team. I think quite a few Hearts fans have fallen down that hole.

Wtf are you on about  wanting Hearts to do well is bashing us?  How can you say that our fans haven't supported the team after what they've endured for nearly three years?  Is that another way of using the levein haters dig?  

There are protests planned for Saturday for no reason at all. Ungrateful swines! 

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ToqueJambo
3 minutes ago, Gambo said:

And yet he is still here.

90%+ on a pro Levein Forum want him gone.

Other social media outlets it is higher than that.

Wether you love/hate Levein there is no support for him to continue.

 

The internet and especially social media isn't representative. Budge backed Levein a day or two ago although that could turn out to be the dreaded vote of confidence. Personally, I'd be surprised if we would back Levein as we have in the transfer market only to sack him after a few league games. After a complete round of fixtures, maybe.

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FruitJuice
Just now, ToqueJambo said:

 

The internet and especially social media isn't representative. Budge backed Levein a day or two ago although that could turn out to be the dreaded vote of confidence. Personally, I'd be surprised if we would back Levein as we have in the transfer market only to sack him after a few league games. After a complete round of fixtures, maybe.

You're just a Hearts fan hater...

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ToqueJambo
1 minute ago, FruitJuice said:

Wtf are you on about  wanting Hearts to do well is bashing us?  How can you say that our fans haven't supported the team after what they've endured for nearly three years?  Is that another way of using the levein haters dig?  

There are protests planned for Saturday for no reason at all. Ungrateful swines! 

 

Let's see how well attended the protest is. Happy to be proven wrong if it's more than 50-100 or so (not including the UJ lot and the bunch we all know are very annoyed with Budge for not letting them do what they want). Hopefully we win well so there's no appetite for a protest. I'm sure you agree :)

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ToqueJambo
1 minute ago, FruitJuice said:

You're just a Hearts fan hater...

 

Numptie hater

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Stephen Muddie

Levein oot

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FruitJuice
Just now, ToqueJambo said:

 

Let's see how well attended the protest is. Happy to be proven wrong if it's more than 50-100 or so (not including the UJ lot and the bunch we all know are very annoyed with Budge for not letting them do what they want). Hopefully we win well so there's no appetite for a protest. I'm sure you agree :)

Exactly.  Fans aren't hoping we are pish just so they can continue to hate someone they've never met.  What they do hate is seeing us being shite for nearly three years.   No one wants him to fail, he just isn't getting results on the park. 

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Pasquale for King
25 minutes ago, ToqueJambo said:

 

The things is the eejits who have vocally wanted Levein out (and anyone appointed by him, eg Neilson) since he walked in the door mean that Levein can ignore a certain amount of the criticism he's getting now. They've actually harmed their case by banging on about Levein and jumping on anything he does wrong and blowing it up and largely ignoring the good things he's done for 5 years (I include Gary Mackay and Michael Stewart in that group).

 

There actually is a growing strong case for sacking Levein as head coach but a lot of the people calling for his sacking don't have any credibility because it's so obvious they hate the guy for some reason. When the bulk of the Heart support let Levein know they want him out he'll know it and he'll be off. 

Definitely, I think the time where the majority let him know might well come soon enough. Do you know any Levein fans,I speak to a lot of Jambos and everyone wants him out the dugout.

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FruitJuice
3 minutes ago, ToqueJambo said:

 

Numptie hater

Fair enough.  Why do keep playing the levein haters card when that's not the reason for them wanting change?  

They've had enough  don't say that its only on line fans when, at the last home game they were pretty vocal in letting him know they wanted him to go?  Maybe it was just folk who post in here. 

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FruitJuice
6 minutes ago, ToqueJambo said:

 

Numptie hater

You'd rather give the job to McCann until the end of the season rather than advertise the job to see what our options are? Happy to take the numpty comment from you if that's the case.  

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Cruickshank for Scotland
31 minutes ago, Agentjambo said:

Budge to blame for giving him too much control at the club...blind faith if you like.

 

Sadly I have to agree. After giving him the position of D of F there was absolutely no good reason why she had to make Levein a full Board Director.

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FruitJuice
9 minutes ago, ToqueJambo said:

 

Numptie hater

To be honest with you.  I hate Gary Mackay a lot more than I'll ever hate levein due to personally seeing him in action socially but, if he was managing the club and doing well, I wouldn't want him sacked.  And I do really dislike Gary Mackay.  

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Jodami
10 minutes ago, ToqueJambo said:

 

I honestly think Budge will kick him back upstairs or tell him to take a leave before it gets to that stage. There are really only two scenarios here. Either we'll get to the cup semi and climb up the league, even if it's a slow climb - Levein will stay. We'll lose the next few games, including a derby and the cup tie, meaning we're anchored to the bottom - Levein will walk or be pushed. It'll be interesting to see what happens if we win a couple and lose a couple and win the cup tie. I suspect unless we have a replacement lined up, Levein will stay rather than having McPhee and Daly in charge for a month or so.

An entire calendar year of disappointing football and results only ends one way. There aren't people at the club with the coaching skill sets to turn this around. In many ways the biggest surprise to me was Levein not changing the coaching set up during the summer. It doesn't matter if you improve the players you bring in (notable that Clare and Mulraney are the only regulars from last summer's signings) they need organised and coached.

The bottom line is McPhee has been synonymous with the failure of two managers and contacts within the game should not keep you in the job. Fox and Daly will end up working for John Colquhoun within 6 months of being emptied.

 

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Cruickshank for Scotland
12 minutes ago, ToqueJambo said:

 

Let's see how well attended the protest is. Happy to be proven wrong if it's more than 50-100 or so (not including the UJ lot and the bunch we all know are very annoyed with Budge for not letting them do what they want). Hopefully we win well so there's no appetite for a protest. I'm sure you agree :)

 

Very many Hearts fans who want Levein to go will not attend this protest.

Don’t assume if only “50 - 100” turn up that they are the only ones wanting him out!

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Cruickshank for Scotland
14 minutes ago, Pasquale for King said:

Definitely, I think the time where the majority let him know might well come soon enough. Do you know any Levein fans,I speak to a lot of Jambos and everyone wants him out the dugout.

 

“That’s because you only socialise with Levein haters!” will be the protest from the LDL.....

 

seriously, like you I don’t know one Jambo at games, the pub, the golf club, that think Levein should stay.

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ToqueJambo
19 minutes ago, FruitJuice said:

You'd rather give the job to McCann until the end of the season rather than advertise the job to see what our options are? Happy to take the numpty comment from you if that's the case.  

 

I haven’t mentioned mcann. I liked the sound of freedman or boothroyd last time around. Or my preference is Robbo for a couple of years then Naismith then michael oneill. Just thought today that if we’re stuck this season, JJ as caretaker wouldn’t be the worst idea.

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ToqueJambo
14 minutes ago, Cruickshank for Scotland said:

 

Very many Hearts fans who want Levein to go will not attend this protest.

Don’t assume if only “50 - 100” turn up that they are the only ones wanting him out!

 

Thats basically what I said. Once the majority make their feelings clear they’ll get the change they want. Then everyone can argue about who the next manager will be instead. Anyhow, I seem to have been arguing about this for a couple of days, obviously got too much time on my hands.

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FruitJuice
Just now, ToqueJambo said:

 

I haven’t mentioned mcann. I liked the sound of freedman or boothroyd last time around. Or my preference is Robbo for a couple of years then Naismith then michael oneill. Just thought today that if we’re stuck this season, JJ as caretaker wouldn’t be the worat idea.

I think Robbo has to do something with Inverness first.  I would just advertise it and see what our options are.  Anything else is restricting our options.  We don't only have to go for out of work managers.  If it costs more money than someone who is, then so be it.  We'll get the money back and more if they deliver the goods.  Off course nothing is guaranteed, but you we can't stick with what we've got because of it.  Just dont put restrictions on our options. 

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FruitJuice
4 minutes ago, ToqueJambo said:

 

Thats basically what I said. Once the majority make their feelings clear they’ll get the change they want. Then everyone can argue about who the next manager will be instead. Anyhow, I seem to have been arguing about this for a couple of days, obviously got too much time on my hands.

I'm the same but you've helped take my mind off my back pain...

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Pasquale for King
16 minutes ago, Cruickshank for Scotland said:

 

“That’s because you only socialise with Levein haters!” will be the protest from the LDL.....

 

seriously, like you I don’t know one Jambo at games, the pub, the golf club, that think Levein should stay.

Even the more moderate fans see no way forward with him.

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Jambo-Fox

So the ‘REMAIN’ vote continues to increase!

 

”..WANT YOU TO STAY, 54% WANT YOU TO STAY..”

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ToqueJambo
10 minutes ago, Pasquale for King said:

Even the more moderate fans see no way forward with him.

 

Damour, Whelan, Meshino and Peirera have had what two games each at most under Levein? Others of his signings like Walker and Naismith have been injured. The new signings that have played - Washington and Halkett - have looked very good. Unless we have some ridiculous disaster in the next couple of games there's absolutely no doubt he'll be given a few more games at minimum to see what he can do with the team he put together. Rightly IMO. Otherwise, why back him in the transfer market? The time to get rid of him was before the summer.

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3 minutes ago, ToqueJambo said:

 

Damour, Whelan, Meshino and Peirera have had what two games each at most under Levein? Others of his signings like Walker and Naismith have been injured. The new signings that have played - Washington and Halkett - have looked very good. Unless we have some ridiculous disaster in the next couple of days there's absolutely no doubt he'll be given a few more games at minimum to see what he can do with the team he put together. Rightly IMO. Otherwise, why back him in the transfer market? The time to get rid of him was before the summer.

Last season was the time to get rid of him 

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ToqueJambo
3 minutes ago, 1874robbo said:

Last season was the time to get rid of him 

 

Definitely if they thought he wasn't up to another season (I thought he was unlucky with the injuries last year personally and delivered a good run in the cup). We didn't get rid of him then though so give him the chance to work with his signings, a few games at least FFS.

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1874robbo
1 minute ago, ToqueJambo said:

 

Definitely if they thought he wasn't up to another season (I thought he was unlucky with the injuries last year personally and delivered a good run in the cup). We didn't get rid of him then though so give him the chance to work with his signings, a few games at least FFS.

I don’t trust him to get the best out of those signings though.

a motivated Craig Levein from years ago maybe yes but the one we have now!!

no way, for the good of the club and his own health he needs to call it a day and if he doesn’t then mrs budge needs to make the call for him.

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luckydug
31 minutes ago, Cruickshank for Scotland said:

 

“That’s because you only socialise with Levein haters!” will be the protest from the LDL.....

 

seriously, like you I don’t know one Jambo at games, the pub, the golf club, that think Levein should stay.

If you don't know anyone that wants CL to stay why do you think there is a LDL ?

Perhaps you mean LHL. 😂

 

 

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Pasquale for King
31 minutes ago, ToqueJambo said:

 

Damour, Whelan, Meshino and Peirera have had what two games each at most under Levein? Others of his signings like Walker and Naismith have been injured. The new signings that have played - Washington and Halkett - have looked very good. Unless we have some ridiculous disaster in the next couple of games there's absolutely no doubt he'll be given a few more games at minimum to see what he can do with the team he put together. Rightly IMO. Otherwise, why back him in the transfer market? The time to get rid of him was before the summer.

The time was definitely in the summer. He has signed some great players, has his best ever squad, yet we are joint bottom of the league. His style of play is archaic, everyone knows what it is and how to better it, he just keeps doing the same things with different players. It doesn’t work.

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Smith's right boot
1 hour ago, Stephen Muddie said:

Levein oot

 

😂😂

 

 

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Pasquale for King
39 minutes ago, Jambo-Fox said:

So the ‘REMAIN’ vote continues to increase!

 

”..WANT YOU TO STAY, 54% WANT YOU TO STAY..”

Are you drunk, over 90% want him removed from the dugout.

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Smith's right boot
58 minutes ago, Cruickshank for Scotland said:

 

“That’s because you only socialise with Levein haters!” will be the protest from the LDL.....

 

seriously, like you I don’t know one Jambo at games, the pub, the golf club, that think Levein should stay.

 

"seriously".... That's all bases covered then? 

 

pub

Your golf club

A few folk you know at the games. 

 

Pretty much our entire fan base covered. 

Can't argue with evidence like that. 

😂😂😂

 

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Agentjambo
1 hour ago, Cruickshank for Scotland said:

 

Sadly I have to agree. After giving him the position of D of F there was absolutely no good reason why she had to make Levein a full Board Director.

Or manager.

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bistokid
2 minutes ago, Smith's right boot said:

 

"seriously".... That's all bases covered then? 

 

pub

Your golf club

A few folk you know at the games. 

 

Pretty much our entire fan base covered. 

Can't argue with evidence like that. 

😂😂😂

 

 

I don't know anyone either. Do you? 

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Jambo-Fox
9 minutes ago, Pasquale for King said:

Are you drunk, over 90% want him removed from the dugout.

.... don’t you understand that less than 46% want him to leave the club ....

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1874robbo
4 minutes ago, Jambo-Fox said:

.... don’t you understand that less than 46% want him to leave the club ....

Over 90% don’t want him to be the Head Coach anymore.

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ToqueJambo
19 minutes ago, Pasquale for King said:

The time was definitely in the summer. He has signed some great players, has his best ever squad, yet we are joint bottom of the league. His style of play is archaic, everyone knows what it is and how to better it, he just keeps doing the same things with different players. It doesn’t work.

 

Maybe he'll do different things with the same players on Saturday.

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Pasquale for King
16 minutes ago, Jambo-Fox said:

.... don’t you understand that less than 46% want him to leave the club ....

It’s over 90% that want him to leave the managers job, are you just over looking that? Typical Levein fan boy or LDL member if you wish.

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Pasquale for King
13 minutes ago, ToqueJambo said:

 

Maybe he'll do different things with the same players on Saturday.

He won’t, he never has in all the years he’s been a manager. The style football stays the same, the formation or pressing against Celtic is all that changes. Change the players, hope they can create something out of nothing or score from a set piece. 

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jambocub
20 minutes ago, Jambo-Fox said:

.... don’t you understand that less than 46% want him to leave the club ....

Ask the same question outside this forum and the numbers will be a lot higher for him to leave

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jambocub

Levien fans 

Levien haters 

We're  all hearts fans

 

The simple fact is results are not good enough and haven't been for a good while .

The only thing most sensible  fans want is hearts to win ,so when we ain't winning folk are going to get annoyed.

 

If we string a run of wins together all will change if we don't then folk will vent their frustrations 

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Pasquale for King
12 minutes ago, jambocub said:

Levien fans 

Levien haters 

We're  all hearts fans

 

The simple fact is results are not good enough and haven't been for a good while .

The only thing most sensible  fans want is hearts to win ,so when we ain't winning folk are going to get annoyed.

 

If we string a run of wins together all will change if we don't then folk will vent their frustrations 

It’s a huge if and there’s extremely little to indicate it will happen. 

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Jambo-Fox
24 minutes ago, Pasquale for King said:

It’s over 90% that want him to leave the managers job, are you just over looking that? Typical Levein fan boy or LDL member if you wish.

Not overlooking anything just stating a fact .... read my words .... look at the facts ...

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Pasquale for King
22 minutes ago, jambocub said:

Ask the same question outside this forum and the numbers will be a lot higher for him to leave

Most definitely 

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