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tartofmidlothian

Now we're starting to get a look at the players. So far, here's mine.

 

Zlamal

 

Smith

Souttar 

Halkett 

Hickey

 

McDonald 

Clare 

Bozanic or Irving

Mulraney

 

Walker

Washington

 

Although I believe we'll have a new CM before that. This could work too.

 

Zlamal

 

Souttar

Berra 

Halkett

 

Smith

Clare

Bozanic or Irving

Mulraney

 

Walker

 

Ikpeazu

Washington

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Kiwidoug

You are assuming Naismith won't play and you may well be right.  If he does though does he replace Boz/Irving in your thinking?

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Famous 1874
Posted (edited)

Assuming Haring and Naisy are out injured 

 

Zlamal 

Smith Souttar Halkett Hickey 

Walker ? Irving Mulraney 

Uche Washington 

 

Not sure who to put in right centre midfield.

 

Edited by Famous 1874

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DarioHMFC
11 minutes ago, Famous 1874 said:

Assuming Haring and Naisy are out injured 

 

Zlamal 

Smith Souttar Halkett Hickey 

Walker ? Irving Mulraney 

Uche Washington 

 

Not sure who to put in right centre midfield.

 

This would be my team, I’d have Clare in as your question mark if we don’t have a new CM by then. Add Haring and Naismith as CM’s when fit then this by far our best team. Irving, McDonald, Clare, Berra, Keena, MacLean and Doyle as subs and we’re in decent shape. 

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ToqueJambo
Posted (edited)

From what little we've seen so far and with Naismith and Haring assumed out injured or not match fit (no idea what Naismith's injury status is now):

 

4-4-2

 

Zlamal

Smith Souttar Berra Hickey

Walker Clare ? Mulraney

Washington Uche

 

4-2-3-1

 

Zlamal

Smith Souttar Berra Hickey

Clare ?

McDonald Walker Mulraney

Uche

 

3-5-2

 

Zlamal

Souttar Berra Halkett

Smith Walker Clare ? Mulraney

Uche Washington

 

I'd be surprised if Berra is dropped, but Halkett looks like he could deputise if he's still struggling to get back to his pre-injury form. Irving, White and Zanatta could all also push for starting places if they play well in the next couple of games. The ? is Bozanic, Irving, Cochrane or a new midfielder, or even Halkett if we need a more physical DM in place of Haring.

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Kiwidoug

It seems there will be a new midfield player coming.  I would suggest we won't see the best of him, Haring or Naismith until September.

 

Assuming the new guy is good, I think we will be looking extremely strong then.

 

I have always said you can judge what kind of season you're going to have by the end of September.  Chronic injuries to many of our best players put paid to that theory last season.

 

Leading up to then, we must pick up points in some of the tough fixtures and put away the lesser sides.  I'm sure we have the players to do just that.

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Gambo

That would be the team that started our first competitive game of the season v Dundee Utd, I believe that was a Scottish League cup tie, a cup we should be aiming to win, and not a pre season game.

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kimosavi

No way uche should be starting games 

 

Impact player at best if were needing a goal 

 

I'd expcect 2 more incomings with Djoum gone and haring out for 2 months 

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4forDevries

Our defence and forward line possibilities take care of themselves. Haring walks into everyone's midfield when fit. But what an abundance of riches we have in midfield. Walker WILL be immense this season and Mulraney is looking very good. I'm also a Bozanic fan as our tenacious dead ball specialist. McDonald superb last night....Cochrane, Clare , Connor and a newbie.....and Naismith !!!.  The future looks bright.

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Mr Elwood P
6 hours ago, Kiwidoug said:

It seems there will be a new midfield player coming.  I would suggest we won't see the best of him, Haring or Naismith until September.

 

Assuming the new guy is good, I think we will be looking extremely strong then.

 

I have always said you can judge what kind of season you're going to have by the end of September.  Chronic injuries to many of our best players put paid to that theory last season.

 

Leading up to then, we must pick up points in some of the tough fixtures and put away the lesser sides.  I'm sure we have the players to do just that.

 

How many years, have you been saying you can always tell how a season will pan out at the the end of September for? Why are you assuming that Naismith and the new midfielder won’t be up at their best until September?

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Kiwidoug

Many years, and I'm expressing an opinion.  I'm sure if you have a really big think you'll realise that we're all entitled to them.

 

Don't want to fall out over this but have a think about your post.

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4forDevries

Are Burns and Brandon our RB cover for Smith. If so, that could be our new weakest link....assuming jury still out on Bobby.

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Jenks
2 minutes ago, 4forDevries said:

Are Burns and Brandon our RB cover for Smith. If so, that could be our new weakest link....assuming jury still out on Bobby.

Burns isn't a right back.

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4forDevries
3 minutes ago, Jenks said:

Burns isn't a right back.

With Hickey and White options and a back 3 option I think Burns and Harry should go on loan. If Brandon is the RB cover then is he injured ?... don't recall any recent game time. Smith is a very important player for us now.

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Mr Elwood P
11 minutes ago, Kiwidoug said:

Many years, and I'm expressing an opinion.  I'm sure if you have a really big think you'll realise that we're all entitled to them.

 

Don't want to fall out over this but have a think about your post.

 

Nothing to fall out about, I was only asking a couple of questions. I would suggest that you don’t know how a Hearts season is going to pan out until the Scottish Cup had begun, at the very earliest. The 2011/12 season had the feeling of total mediocrity until the Scottish Cup run propelled us to glory. In the 1985/86 season, we had only won two games by the end of September. We then went on an incredible run of results after that. The Championship season supports your argument, we’d won the league by the end of September! Like you said, all about opinions.

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Smith's right boot

 

Bobby

 

Smith Souttar Berra Hickey. (Halkett / White could easily go in there. 

 

Haring / Bozanic 

 

Jake  new cm walker

 

Naismith or Clare just now. 

 

Washingston 

 

 

The thing is, we actually have decent cover in most positions unless it's a long term thing and multiple players. 

 

Different types as well to mix it up. McLean, Uche, MacDonald, Irving 

 

 

 

 

 

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Kiwidoug
Just now, Mr Elwood P said:

 

Nothing to fall out about, I was only asking a couple of questions. I would suggest that you don’t know how a Hearts season is going to pan out until the Scottish Cup had begun, at the very earliest. The 2011/12 season had the feeling of total mediocrity until the Scottish Cup run propelled us to glory. In the 1985/86 season, we had only won two games by the end of September. We then went on an incredible run of results after that. The Championship season supports your argument, we’d won the league by the end of September! Like you said, all about opinions.

Good man although I would argue that it took us till November to win the championship when we beat Rangers again.😂😂😂😂😂.

 

Hibs and Rangers supporters must have been absolutely sick as we just ran away with it.

 

I know it was only the championship but considering where we'd been, it was a stunning achievement.

 

 

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Kiwidoug

What's happening with Edwards? Never seems to get a mention. Cup Final scorer.

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Mikey1874

Zlamal

Smith Halkett Souttar Hickey

Mulraney Clare new DM Walker

Naismith Washington

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busby1985

We play Aberdeen away first game, County at home then Celtic away. That’s a very tough start. I’d like to see us with more bodies in the midfield to make sure we don’t get out numbered. Game was done in the first half last night but it got stuffy 2nd half when we where a man light in midfield. 

 

Bobby 

 

Smith Berra Souttar Hickey 

 

Clare Halkett 

 

Walker MacDonald Mulraney 

 

Washington 

 

Naismith can come in for MacDonald if he’s not carrying an injury. Zanatta is lively enough to claim a place on the bench. Uche has a lot to do as I think MacLean offers more than he does. Cochrane, Irving, White, Brandon, Morrison, Keena all perfect back ups. 

 

2 midfielders coming in would be class but I’d settle for one. Halkett will push Berra out the team IMO. 

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tartofmidlothian
51 minutes ago, 4forDevries said:

With Hickey and White options and a back 3 option I think Burns and Harry should go on loan. If Brandon is the RB cover then is he injured ?... don't recall any recent game time. Smith is a very important player for us now.

 

Remember we've got Ben Garuccio to come back as well, can he play on the right?

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tartofmidlothian
26 minutes ago, busby1985 said:

We play Aberdeen away first game, County at home then Celtic away. That’s a very tough start. I’d like to see us with more bodies in the midfield to make sure we don’t get out numbered. Game was done in the first half last night but it got stuffy 2nd half when we where a man light in midfield. 

 

Bobby 

 

Smith Berra Souttar Hickey 

 

Clare Halkett 

 

Walker MacDonald Mulraney 

 

Washington 

 

Naismith can come in for MacDonald if he’s not carrying an injury. Zanatta is lively enough to claim a place on the bench. Uche has a lot to do as I think MacLean offers more than he does. Cochrane, Irving, White, Brandon, Morrison, Keena all perfect back ups. 

 

2 midfielders coming in would be class but I’d settle for one. Halkett will push Berra out the team IMO. 

 

For teams like Celtic, Rangers and maybe Aberdeen I'd be happy to see the 3-5-2 I suggested in the OP, hopefully we can go 4-4-2 against most of the others, though.

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Jenks
6 minutes ago, tartofmidlothian said:

 

Remember we've got Ben Garuccio to come back as well, can he play on the right?

No chance. Right leg for standing on.

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busby1985
8 minutes ago, tartofmidlothian said:

 

For teams like Celtic, Rangers and maybe Aberdeen I'd be happy to see the 3-5-2 I suggested in the OP, hopefully we can go 4-4-2 against most of the others, though.

I genuinely don’t see why people like 442, don’t think it works for us at all. I know this is all about opinions but I didn’t think it worked on Friday and will be hard to break down teams who have 5 in the midfield. 

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tartofmidlothian
5 minutes ago, Jenks said:

No chance. Right leg for standing on.

 

:lol:

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tartofmidlothian
1 minute ago, busby1985 said:

I genuinely don’t see why people like 442, don’t think it works for us at all. I know this is all about opinions but I didn’t think it worked on Friday and will be hard to break down teams who have 5 in the midfield. 

 

It's mainly two strikers I like seeing. When you have our options in the middle of defence and proper wing backs a 3-5-2 can be a better formation.

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Famous 1874
1 hour ago, Kiwidoug said:

What's happening with Edwards? Never seems to get a mention. Cup Final scorer.

He is shite that’s why 

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Hampden Demolition

                       Zlamal

     

          Souttar  Berra  Halkett

Smith                                  Hickey

 

                 Clare new cm

 

      Walker     Uche    Washington

 

 

Subs

Doyle

Dikamona

White

Bozanic

Cochrane

 

MacLean

 

 

this is assuming Haring is injured and Naismith not available.

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Hampden Demolition
12 minutes ago, Hampden Demolition said:

                       Zlamal

     

          Souttar  Berra  Halkett

Smith                                  Hickey

 

                 Clare new cm

 

      Walker     Uche    Washington

 

 

Subs

Doyle

Dikamona

White

Bozanic

Cochrane

 

MacLean

 

 

this is assuming Haring is injured and Naismith not available.

 

Meant to add Mcdonald to the bench too.

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4forDevries
7 minutes ago, Hampden Demolition said:

 

Meant to add Mcdonald to the bench too.

Keena is going to be a serious goal threat.....needs a run though

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Hampden Demolition
3 minutes ago, 4forDevries said:

Keena is going to be a serious goal threat.....needs a run though

 

I’ve yet to be impressed with Keena from what I have seen so far. Don’t get me wrong, he is still young but McDonald, Cochrane, Hickey and Smith have showed more and are younger.

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Naisysback
27 minutes ago, Hampden Demolition said:

                       Zlamal

     

          Souttar  Berra  Halkett

Smith                                  Hickey

 

                 Clare new cm

 

      Walker     Uche    Washington

 

 

Subs

Doyle

Dikamona

White

Bozanic

Cochrane

 

MacLean

 

 

this is assuming Haring is injured and Naismith not available.

Interesting, so you dont think McDonald gets into squad but Cochrane does....

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Naisysback
17 minutes ago, Hampden Demolition said:

 

Meant to add Mcdonald to the bench too.

Got in there in front of me....

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Naisysback

Levein saying he is looking for another CM, I think this will be as backup. Why not play Walker CM till Naismith is fit, can play mcdonald and Mulraney as wide players, both offer completely different styles, one a winger, one an attacking mid, coupled with Clare\Walker in the middle...

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4forDevries
6 minutes ago, Hampden Demolition said:

 

I’ve yet to be impressed with Keena from what I have seen so far. Don’t get me wrong, he is still young but McDonald, Cochrane, Hickey and Smith have showed more and are younger.

It's all about opinions I guess. You have Uche in your team and Keena has not made your bench. I'd argue Keena is more mobile and a more natural goal scorer and better at getting his head up. And, we stop lumping balls to Uche and play better football. Keena therefore before Uche for me....most of the time.

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BigAlim

______________Zlamal

 

__Smith__Souttar__Halkett__Hickey

 

McDonald__Clare__New CM__Mulraney 

 

______Washington__Walker

 

Could easily change based on form 

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Robbo-Jambo
14 minutes ago, Hampden Demolition said:

 

I’ve yet to be impressed with Keena from what I have seen so far. Don’t get me wrong, he is still young but McDonald, Cochrane, Hickey and Smith have showed more and are younger.

Keena is a very good finisher. 

 

That's what we need and I think he will get a lot of game time this season when he is fully fit again. 

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Sir Gio

Bob; Smithy, Souttar, Halkett, Hickey; Clare, Irving, Haring/ (Replacment Signing); Naismith, Walker, Washington

 

Subs; Coco, Brandon, Berra, White, Mulraney, Uche, McDonald

 

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GorgieFifeLife

Zlamal

 

Smith

Halkett

Souttar 

White

 

Walker

Naismith

Irving

Mulraney

 

Keena

McLean

 

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4forDevries
9 minutes ago, GorgieFifeLife said:

Zlamal

 

Smith

Halkett

Souttar 

White

 

Walker

Naismith

Irving

Mulraney

 

Keena

McLean

 

Swap McLean for Washington and I'm with you :-)

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Byyy The Light
2 hours ago, busby1985 said:

We play Aberdeen away first game, County at home then Celtic away. That’s a very tough start. I’d like to see us with more bodies in the midfield to make sure we don’t get out numbered. Game was done in the first half last night but it got stuffy 2nd half when we where a man light in midfield. 

 

Bobby 

 

Smith Berra Souttar Hickey 

 

Clare Halkett 

 

Walker MacDonald Mulraney 

 

Washington 

 

Naismith can come in for MacDonald if he’s not carrying an injury. Zanatta is lively enough to claim a place on the bench. Uche has a lot to do as I think MacLean offers more than he does. Cochrane, Irving, White, Brandon, Morrison, Keena all perfect back ups. 

 

2 midfielders coming in would be class but I’d settle for one. Halkett will push Berra out the team IMO. 

 

This for me 👍🏼

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i8hibsh

Not sure really, but what I do know is that if we play with regular starters this season like Bozanic, Wighton, Zanatta, Brandon, Keena and McLean we will barely average 1 point per game. 

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been here before
Posted (edited)
14 minutes ago, i8hibsh said:

Not sure really, but what I do know is that if we play with regular starters this season like Bozanic, Wighton, Zanatta, Brandon, Keena and McLean we will barely average 1 point per game. 

 

Aye? You "know" that?

 

How much have you personally see of these players, in the flesh?

 

You know, with you not going to games and not being interested etc...

Edited by been here before

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4forDevries
Posted (edited)

Central Midfielders.../ can play 1 of 2 CM slots :

 

Clare, Naismith, Bozanic , Edwards, McDonald, C Smith, Halkett, Cochrane , Haring , Dickimona , Moore , Irving , Petkov.....there's 13 players.....

 

I think just one quality midfielder, the best we can afford from Djoum and Olly's wage savings, will be enough.  Edwards, Cochrane and Moore to go out on loan.

 

I am far more concerned about quality RB cover.

Edited by 4forDevries

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wavydavy
4 hours ago, BigAlim said:

______________Zlamal

 

__Smith__Souttar__Halkett__Hickey

 

McDonald__Clare__New CM__Mulraney 

 

______Washington__Walker

 

Could easily change based on form 

 

No Naismith?

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BigAlim
57 minutes ago, wavydavy said:

 

No Naismith?

Get the impression he won't be ready for the first game, zero minutes in preseason under his belt. I'm sure he'll force his way in but I was maybe taking the thread title a bit literally. I'm hoping our "best XI" changes every so often with different players hitting form at different times 

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wavydavy
3 minutes ago, BigAlim said:

Get the impression he won't be ready for the first game, zero minutes in preseason under his belt. I'm sure he'll force his way in but I was maybe taking the thread title a bit literally. I'm hoping our "best XI" changes every so often with different players hitting form at different times 

:thumbs_up:

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ericb

Three 442s to chose from

 

Bobby

Smith souttar Berra hickey

Mulraney Naismith haring walker

Washington uche

 

Doyle

Brandon halkett berra white

Bozanic Irvine Clare Morrison

McLean wighton 

 

Mason

Dikamona petkov baur Burns

Cochrane McDonald Edwards Smith 

Zanatta keena 

 

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Hectormasson

Zlamal

Souttar

Smith

Berra

Hickey

Halkett

Clare

Walker

Mulraney

Naismith 

Washington

Subs, bozanic,Cochrane, c.smith,uche

New goalie,new winger .....

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NB GIN
12 hours ago, 4forDevries said:

It's all about opinions I guess. You have Uche in your team and Keena has not made your bench. I'd argue Keena is more mobile and a more natural goal scorer and better at getting his head up. And, we stop lumping balls to Uche and play better football. Keena therefore before Uche for me....most of the time.

Never in a month of Sundays does Keena offer more than Uche 

What’s he done ?

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