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Just saw part of today's Jeremy Vine Show and it's probably the most embarrassing thing I've ever seen discussing independence. Utterly desperate stuff. 

 

If you can find it, watch it! 

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been here before
1 hour ago, Roxy Hearts said:

Just saw part of today's Jeremy Vine Show and it's probably the most embarrassing thing I've ever seen discussing independence. Utterly desperate stuff. 

 

If you can find it, watch it! 

 

From someone who watches the Jeremy Vine show?

 

:rofl:

 

Pots and kettles anyone?

 

 

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BarneyBattles

If we’re such a financial burden on England, why are they so desperate for us not to leave the ‘union’? Never quite had that explained to me in any way which makes sense. It’s a fairly simple question. 

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Cygnet
2 minutes ago, been here before said:

 

From someone who watches the Jeremy Vine show?

 

:rofl:

 

Pots and kettles anyone?

 

 

 

Where does it say he watches the Jeremy Vine show?

 

I don’t watch it but I have seen the clip which is referred to and it is shameful and embarrassing. 

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Roxy Hearts
Posted (edited)
9 minutes ago, been here before said:

 

From someone who watches the Jeremy Vine show?

 

:rofl:

 

Pots and kettles anyone?

 

 

I only saw the clip. I don't normally watch it. Do you agree with the content? You're probably thinking Jeremy Kyle aren't you as that's your level of thought?

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Montgomery Brewster
5 minutes ago, BarneyBattles said:

If we’re such a financial burden on England, why are they so desperate for us not to leave the ‘union’? Never quite had that explained to me in any way which makes sense. It’s a fairly simple question. 

I ask that very question routinely. 

 

Never had it answered !

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Cygnet
Posted (edited)

“Scotland? By itself? My goodness, how is IT going to survive? What natural resources does it have?”

 

Now, ask the same questions about England and you will learn why they are so desperate for us to remain part of the Union. 

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been here before
17 minutes ago, Cygnet said:

 

Where does it say he watches the Jeremy Vine show?

 

I don’t watch it but I have seen the clip which is referred to and it is shameful and embarrassing. 

 

So by only watching bits of the Jeremy Vine show you're not really watching the Jeremy Vine show?

 

Righto.

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Roxy Hearts
7 minutes ago, Cygnet said:

“Scotland? By itself? My goodness, how is IT going to survive? What natural resources does it have?”

 

Now, ask the same questions about England and you will learn why they are so desperate for us to remain part of the Union. 

It's the sheer lack of respect for a so-called partner in this stinking union! They invite people on shows just to spew propaganda, lies and ill informed nonsense. They don't care so don't research, just try to demean Scotland and in effect its people. Had enough of it!

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21 minutes ago, BarneyBattles said:

If we’re such a financial burden on England, why are they so desperate for us not to leave the ‘union’? Never quite had that explained to me in any way which makes sense. It’s a fairly simple question. 

 

They are only doing it out of concern for our well being.

 

That was sarcasm.

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Roxy Hearts
2 minutes ago, been here before said:

 

So by only watching bits of the Jeremy Vine show you're not really watching the Jeremy Vine show?

 

Righto.

I only saw the clip. I've never watched the show and don't even know what channel it's on. Try not to watch too much political stuff as I used to for obvious reasons, one being the insulting attitude towards Scottish people from a bunch of ignorant nomarks. Read the tag line. 

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2 minutes ago, been here before said:

 

So by only watching bits of the Jeremy Vine show you're not really watching the Jeremy Vine show?

 

Righto.

 

The video is doing the rounds on social media. Hardly makes me an avid viewer considering I didn’t even know the TV show existed.

 

But I suspect you’re clever enough to realise that but wouldn’t want to admit you were wrong in some petty attempt to try and prove a point.

 

 

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1 minute ago, Cygnet said:

 

The video is doing the rounds on social media. Hardly makes me an avid viewer considering I didn’t even know the TV show existed.

 

But I suspect you’re clever enough to realise that but wouldn’t want to admit you were wrong in some petty attempt to try and prove a point.

 

 

 

You're the one thats got yourself involved here.

 

No-ones claimed anything about you, let alone claimed you were an "avid viewer" of anything. Infact other than me it looks like no-ones paid you any attention at all.

 

Who gives a fxxk what shows you know exist or what you've been getting up to on "social media"?

 

Other than losing an argument with yourself, I doubt any cxxt really knows what you're slavering about.

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1 minute ago, been here before said:

 

You're the one thats got yourself involved here.

 

No-ones claimed anything about you, let alone claimed you were an "avid viewer" of anything. Infact other than me it looks like no-ones paid you any attention at all.

 

Who gives a fxxk what shows you know exist or what you've been getting up to on "social media"?

 

Other than losing an argument with yourself, I doubt any cxxt really knows what you're slavering about.

What's your thoughts on their lies and idiocy in the clip? 

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been here before

No idea never watched it.

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Roxy Hearts
6 minutes ago, been here before said:

No idea never watched it.

Why not? Would just like a different perspective. Not trying to goad you. 

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22 minutes ago, been here before said:

 

You're the one thats got yourself involved here.

 

No-ones claimed anything about you, let alone claimed you were an "avid viewer" of anything. Infact other than me it looks like no-ones paid you any attention at all.

 

Who gives a fxxk what shows you know exist or what you've been getting up to on "social media"?

 

Other than losing an argument with yourself, I doubt any cxxt really knows what you're slavering about.

 

24 minutes ago, been here before said:

 

You're the one thats got yourself involved here.

 

No-ones claimed anything about you, let alone claimed you were an "avid viewer" of anything. Infact other than me it looks like no-ones paid you any attention at all.

 

Who gives a fxxk what shows you know exist or what you've been getting up to on "social media"?

 

Other than losing an argument with yourself, I doubt any cxxt really knows what you're slavering about.

Just because you got Vine and Kyle mixed up, no need to take it out on another poster. Just admit you made a mistake and get over it 

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Posted (edited)
2 minutes ago, XB52 said:

 

Just because you got Vine and Kyle mixed up, no need to take it out on another poster. Just admit you made a mistake and get over it 

 

 

Ive not got anyone mixed up. Kyle ITV ditched when some dude topped himself. Vine took over the slot from Mathew Wright on Ch 5.

 

That cool with you?

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3 minutes ago, been here before said:

 

 

Ive not got anyone mixed up. Kyle ITV ditched when some dude topped himself. Vine took over the slot from Mathew Wright on Ch 5.

 

That cool with you?

For someone who has never watched it you seem to know a lot about it??. Anyway, any comment on the clip?? 

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1 minute ago, XB52 said:

For someone who has never watched it you seem to know a lot about it??. Anyway, any comment on the clip?? 

 

Aye I know whats on the telly which means I must watch it... thats some leap...

 

"Just admit you made a mistake and get over it".

 

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jack D and coke
Posted (edited)

What has Scotchland got? Oil and a monster, Irn Bru.....

The Scottish girl piping up with shortbread, haggis and tartan jibes....**** me!

:cornette:

I wonder what unionists make of that kind of thing cos it’s what most English people think. 

Actually I don’t wonder I see “Scots” basically saying the same thing. 

 

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Dagger Is Back
1 hour ago, Roxy Hearts said:

 

 

My God that’s disturbing. 

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Roxy Hearts
13 minutes ago, Dagger Is Back said:

 

My God that’s disturbing. 

How any self respecting Scot can watch that and not want to govern ourselves is a lost cause. It's despairing listening to our own people make disparaging remarks about their own country and our people. 

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Dagger Is Back
8 minutes ago, Roxy Hearts said:

How any self respecting Scot can watch that and not want to govern ourselves is a lost cause. It's despairing listening to our own people make disparaging remarks about their own country and our people. 

 

Couldn’t agree more. To be honest though I doubt that the collective IQs of the 5 people involved would reach double figures 

 

Time for a nation to be brave, confident and rid itself of the shackles which have held us back for so long

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Cruyff Turn

They are thick as shit. When we get Indy, we should build a 100ft wall on the border and Leave them to it as the Western Equivalent of North Korea. 

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28 minutes ago, Cruyff Turn said:

They are thick as shit. When we get Indy, we should build a 100ft wall on the border and Leave them to it as the Western Equivalent of North Korea. 

Would solve the Irish border issue in a jiffy .

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ri Alban
6 hours ago, been here before said:

No idea never watched it.

:D You're at it.

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ri Alban
4 hours ago, doctor jambo said:

Would solve the Irish border issue in a jiffy .

Unification and Scottish Independence would and wouldn't solve a lot. Just flips the coin. But Independence is the best thing for everybody.

Scotland will still be part of the United Kingdoms, so the I really don't get the loyalists rage. (unless it becomes a republic). But,  I'm sure we're not going to act like the British have with the EU during the Brexit years. That would be pathetic, wouldn't it.

Anyway, after 300+(Officially) years of trying to turn us into English. If it hasn't worked by now, well...

 

 

Defence is the main reason England needs Scotland, our border is huge. And we die easily enough for them to sleep at night. There's the natural resources too, which bolster the credit rating and their English pound.

We'll see soon enough, how much Scotland is really worth and isn't £180b GDP. Have a look at Norway, were bigger and have more resources than they do, they're about £400b GDP and rising. They don't give away their oil for free, simple.

 

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6 hours ago, been here before said:

 

 

Ive not got anyone mixed up. Kyle ITV ditched when some dude topped himself. Vine took over the slot from Mathew Wright on Ch 5.

 

That cool with you?

Google is your friend?

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1 hour ago, ri Alban said:

Unification and Scottish Independence would and wouldn't solve a lot. Just flips the coin. But Independence is the best thing for everybody.

Scotland will still be part of the United Kingdoms, so the I really don't get the loyalists rage. (unless it becomes a republic). But,  I'm sure we're not going to act like the British have with the EU during the Brexit years. That would be pathetic, wouldn't it.

Anyway, after 300+(Officially) years of trying to turn us into English. If it hasn't worked by now, well...

 

 

Defence is the main reason England needs Scotland, our border is huge. And we die easily enough for them to sleep at night. There's the natural resources too, which bolster the credit rating and their English pound.

We'll see soon enough, how much Scotland is really worth and isn't £180b GDP. Have a look at Norway, were bigger and have more resources than they do, they're about £400b GDP and rising. They don't give away their oil for free, simple.

 

Watched a thing yesterday about whisky. They reckon about 2% of whisky money comes back to Scotland the rest of it goes abroad, reckoned to be worth up to £35 billion, thats bigger than the block grant ffs!! Now before people think I think that the £35 billion is automatically Scotlands money I don’t but shows you what is being taken out. 

The Whisky industry was against independence too...I wonder why?

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FWJ

Remember Anthony Hopkin’s character ‘Mr Stevens’ in Remains of the Day when asked his opinion on political issues?

Pity Mr Burrell didn’t follow his lead.

 

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Sarah O

No wonder Ask Jeeves buggered off into oblivion, butlers are apparently morons and as such not a useful source of information. 

 

 

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2 hours ago, jack D and coke said:

Watched a thing yesterday about whisky. They reckon about 2% of whisky money comes back to Scotland the rest of it goes abroad, reckoned to be worth up to £35 billion, thats bigger than the block grant ffs!! Now before people think I think that the £35 billion is automatically Scotlands money I don’t but shows you what is being taken out. 

The Whisky industry was against independence too...I wonder why?

 I think the Japanese and the Americans bought them all.

 

 

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5 minutes ago, Lovecraft said:

 I think the Japanese and the Americans bought them all.

 

 

Yeah a load of them foreign owned and think only 2 HQ’d in Scotland but another scandal tbh. 

The french for instance protect their wine and we’ve been robbed. Again. 

Not to say a Scottish government couldn’t reign it in a bit. It was very telling they were against independence. 

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1 hour ago, jack D and coke said:

Yeah a load of them foreign owned and think only 2 HQ’d in Scotland but another scandal tbh. 

The french for instance protect their wine and we’ve been robbed. Again. 

Not to say a Scottish government couldn’t reign it in a bit. It was very telling they were against independence. 

Scottish gin is now bigger than the Whisky. Scotland's baws have officially fallen oaf.

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1 hour ago, jack D and coke said:

Yeah a load of them foreign owned and think only 2 HQ’d in Scotland but another scandal tbh. 

The french for instance protect their wine and we’ve been robbed. Again. 

Not to say a Scottish government couldn’t reign it in a bit. It was very telling they were against independence. 

Then there's the land. Our land grows stuff and feeds things very easily. Potato, anyone.

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Trapper John McIntyre
1 hour ago, ri Alban said:

Then there's the land. Our land grows stuff and feeds things very easily. Potato, anyone.

 

We will then be a nation of tattie howkers.

 

That's livin' alright.

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ri Alban
6 minutes ago, Trapper John McIntyre said:

 

We will then be a nation of tattie howkers.

 

That's livin' alright.

No john, 

Scotland feeds these islands. But again, you turn on your own country. Sigh!!!

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Posted (edited)

If the independence lads had any sense then instead of getting raging about this, they'd be playing up to it. It's clear that England has a majority of absolute shit for brains, so get them believing Scotland is burning their tenners to light cigars and it'll be like a chimps tea party as they screech to wee Nige and the lads to get shot of us. Perhaps to seal the deal you could tell them we're all black.

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Craig_

Just to clarify, the Scotch Whisky industry is currently worth around £5bn per year, dwarfing the gin industry, which is approximately £1bn, give or take.

 

The stat which was doing the rounds was that there was more gin distilleries than whisky in Scotland, however that is likely to change as many of these are using gin to keep the business afloat until their whisky hits three years old.

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AlphonseCapone
16 hours ago, Roxy Hearts said:

 

 

I don't care if you are an independence supporter or not, that's absolutely shameful and ignorant beyond reason. I genuinely would love to hear a unionists take on that video. 

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ri Alban
41 minutes ago, Craig_ said:

Just to clarify, the Scotch Whisky industry is currently worth around £5bn per year, dwarfing the gin industry, which is approximately £1bn, give or take.

 

The stat which was doing the rounds was that there was more gin distilleries than whisky in Scotland, however that is likely to change as many of these are using gin to keep the business afloat until their whisky hits three years old.

Phew!

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Lord BJ
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42 minutes ago, AlphonseCapone said:

 

I don't care if you are an independence supporter or not, that's absolutely shameful and ignorant beyond reason. I genuinely would love to hear a unionists take on that video. 

 

Well I wouldn’t class my self a unionist. Voted no last time and if a referendum tomorrow would likely vote yes. Though in truth my decision would be based on where we were if one was called; which I don’t think will be all that soon actually. 

 

However, watching the clips, I just found it funny. Strangely I don’t put too much worth in what Paul Burrell (ex butler), Nicola someone (glamour model/wag/big brother contestant) and a journalist/columnist who I recognise as a 80’s version of Katie Hopkins. 

 

Their opinion doesn’t really impact the effectiveness  of Scotland’s place in the union. Does it?

 

Paul Burrell thinking Scotland has oil, whiskey and monster just shows why his skills lay at being told what to do and keep his mouth. It doesn’t impact anything other than me being aware that some ignorant people in England. That’s not a unique thing to England, I come across lots of ignorant Scottish people everyday!!!’

 

To be honest I would be more concerned if someone watched that and it influenced the way they voted. Who votes on the basis of some no mark think sScotland couldn’t cope? 

 

I think that that clip will appeal to people who like to stir grievance with England. Independence isn’t really about Scotland v England for me. It’s about the best form of governance for Scotland. That actually doesn’t get influenced by idiots saying stupid things . 

 

It just doesn’t factor into my thinking in much the same way that Scottish bams claiming we will be land and honey when cut free from evil English don’t.

 

A lion doesn’t concern himself with the thoughts of sheep. ??‍♂️

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Roxy Hearts
1 hour ago, Lord BJ said:

 

Well I wouldn’t class my self a unionist. Voted no last time and if a referendum tomorrow would likely vote yes. Though in truth my decision would be based on where we were if one was called; which I don’t think will be all that soon actually. 

 

However, watching the clips, I just found it funny. Strangely I don’t put too much worth in what Paul Burrell (ex butler), Nicola someone (glamour model/wag/big brother contestant) and a journalist/columnist who I recognise as a 80’s version of Katie Hopkins. 

 

Their opinion doesn’t really impact the effectiveness  of Scotland’s place in the union. Does it?

 

Paul Burrell thinking Scotland has oil, whiskey and monster just shows why his skills lay at being told what to do and keep his mouth. It doesn’t impact anything other than me being aware that some ignorant people in England. That’s not a unique thing to England, I come across lots of ignorant Scottish people everyday!!!’

 

To be honest I would be more concerned if someone watched that and it influenced the way they voted. Who votes on the basis of some no mark think sScotland couldn’t cope? 

 

I think that that clip will appeal to people who like to stir grievance with England. Independence isn’t really about Scotland v England for me. It’s about the best form of governance for Scotland. That actually doesn’t get influenced by idiots saying stupid things . 

 

It just doesn’t factor into my thinking in much the same way that Scottish bams claiming we will be land and honey when cut free from evil English don’t.

 

A lion doesn’t concern himself with the thoughts of sheep. ??‍♂️

Fair enough but there are a lot of sheep! 

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2 hours ago, Lord BJ said:

 

Well I wouldn’t class my self a unionist. Voted no last time and if a referendum tomorrow would likely vote yes. Though in truth my decision would be based on where we were if one was called; which I don’t think will be all that soon actually. 

 

However, watching the clips, I just found it funny. Strangely I don’t put too much worth in what Paul Burrell (ex butler), Nicola someone (glamour model/wag/big brother contestant) and a journalist/columnist who I recognise as a 80’s version of Katie Hopkins. 

 

Their opinion doesn’t really impact the effectiveness  of Scotland’s place in the union. Does it?

 

Paul Burrell thinking Scotland has oil, whiskey and monster just shows why his skills lay at being told what to do and keep his mouth. It doesn’t impact anything other than me being aware that some ignorant people in England. That’s not a unique thing to England, I come across lots of ignorant Scottish people everyday!!!’

 

To be honest I would be more concerned if someone watched that and it influenced the way they voted. Who votes on the basis of some no mark think sScotland couldn’t cope? 

 

I think that that clip will appeal to people who like to stir grievance with England. Independence isn’t really about Scotland v England for me. It’s about the best form of governance for Scotland. That actually doesn’t get influenced by idiots saying stupid things . 

 

It just doesn’t factor into my thinking in much the same way that Scottish bams claiming we will be land and honey when cut free from evil English don’t.

 

A lion doesn’t concern himself with the thoughts of sheep. ??‍♂️

 

I understand what you are saying but it's still pretty ridiculous for these people to be given a platform on national television and for the sort of absolute shite they spout to be simply be stated like it's a fact. This is isn't Archie down the pub, this is people with an audience and with that comes a level of influence. Does it matter that it's untrue? Does it matter if some folk believe it? In the grand scheme of things, maybe not, but unfortunately, not everyone thinks that hard and not everyone has the same level of awareness as yourself so will this influence people? Of course it will. We live in a society where Love Island and Gogglebox reign supreme. 

 

It's the level of ignorance and arrogance on show about a country you're in a political union with. Yes these guys aren't politicians but given what we know Boris has said about Scots in the past, it's probably not far away from the mentality of the next PM of this country. 

 

Anyway, I'm trying not to get annoyed about politics these days so I don't even know why I watched the clip :facepalm:

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12 hours ago, ri Alban said:

 

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jack D and coke
30 minutes ago, AlphonseCapone said:

 

I understand what you are saying but it's still pretty ridiculous for these people to be given a platform on national television and for the sort of absolute shite they spout to be simply be stated like it's a fact. This is isn't Archie down the pub, this is people with an audience and with that comes a level of influence. Does it matter that it's untrue? Does it matter if some folk believe it? In the grand scheme of things, maybe not, but unfortunately, not everyone thinks that hard and not everyone has the same level of awareness as yourself so will this influence people? Of course it will. We live in a society where Love Island and Gogglebox reign supreme. 

 

It's the level of ignorance and arrogance on show about a country you're in a political union with. Yes these guys aren't politicians but given what we know Boris has said about Scots in the past, it's probably not far away from the mentality of the next PM of this country. 

 

Anyway, I'm trying not to get annoyed about politics these days so I don't even know why I watched the clip :facepalm:

Surely Jeremy Vine should’ve known a bit better...he came across as big a clueless arsehole as the rest. 

I don’t get annoyed about politics anymore either but I haven’t met an English person who doesn’t think we get money shoved up our hoop. Plenty “Scots” think so too I saw a hearts twitter account going on about us having to use haggis vouchers for money the other week :facepalm:

 

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Lord BJ
29 minutes ago, AlphonseCapone said:

 

I understand what you are saying but it's still pretty ridiculous for these people to be given a platform on national television and for the sort of absolute shite they spout to be simply be stated like it's a fact. This is isn't Archie down the pub, this is people with an audience and with that comes a level of influence. Does it matter that it's untrue? Does it matter if some folk believe it? In the grand scheme of things, maybe not, but unfortunately, not everyone thinks that hard and not everyone has the same level of awareness as yourself so will this influence people? Of course it will. We live in a society where Love Island and Gogglebox reign supreme. 

 

It's the level of ignorance and arrogance on show about a country you're in a political union with. Yes these guys aren't politicians but given what we know Boris has said about Scots in the past, it's probably not far away from the mentality of the next PM of this country. 

 

Anyway, I'm trying not to get annoyed about politics these days so I don't even know why I watched the clip :facepalm:

 

I don’t disagree media can influence but I don’t imagine that clip/show will change one iota of voters from yes to no or change support for anything,

 

Don’t take it this, wrong way, but I suggest floating voters are the least entrenched In their stance and more considered than your fundamental yes/no or even lab/con/son supporters. 

 

As you say we have lots of shite tv, (though I watch gogglebox it makes me laugh) and this is just another example of it. The world is a complex place and we’re all not attracted to the same things. Idiots/clever people, have has much right to be entertained as each other guess. I don’t consider myself the judge and jury and what’s right/wrong or good/bad etc,

 

This is just another example of shite tv as opposed to anti Scottish/independence agenda.  

 

I don’t think it does reperesent the vast majority of English people view on independence. In my experience most feel it’s our business to decide. I appreciate we all mix in different circles but I have never once come across some anti Scottish Indepedence English person in my life  I just don’t see the arrogance etc you see. 

 

Arrogance is is a personal trait and not of nationality,  

 

Bojo says a lot lot of things. Not sure he even knows what he believes in. However, he is just a poor politician, the system of governance doesn’t stop that occurring. We have elected many of our own and will continue. Bojo ain’t so much a problem of union but just politics. 

 

I genuinely think you and others are being a tad sensitive but I accept independence is an very important cause to you. Whereas for me it’s just something I have to vote on occasionally,

maybe.

 

Anyway I’m best out now, as doubt going to convince you it’s not personal and you most definitely ain’t going to persuade me it’s a issue I should concern myself of outside 2 posts on jkb?

 

Take it easy and stay away from shit that winds you up. Though I do believe listening to different views is important no matter how uncomfortable or much you may disagree. ?

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