The Gorgie Posted May 19, 2019 Share Posted May 19, 2019 Taking the Scotland job is going to undo this good reputation he's built up, its a job that will only ever end in failure and no Scotland manager has been able to recover from. Walter Smith being the only one to walk away and still manage to stay respected. Mcleish, Burnley, Levein, Strachen all shadows of the men they were before the job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bring Back Paulo Sergio Posted May 19, 2019 Share Posted May 19, 2019 Whenever you think to yourselves. "Thurs no much a manager kin dae aw he does is pick eh'z best 11." Remember Steve Clarke. The manager is the most vital part of a club. More important than any player. If we want to really push the boundaries of what's possible we need our own Steve Clarke. Someone who won't lie down and isn't intimidated by the old firm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Potter Posted May 19, 2019 Share Posted May 19, 2019 53 minutes ago, Bongo 1874 said: Well done Killie and Steve Clarke ? Moaning face auld man ha ha, would not let him near ma cat if i had wan, clown Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davemclaren Posted May 19, 2019 Share Posted May 19, 2019 14 minutes ago, Barack said: And another... That’s fitba’. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Potter Posted May 19, 2019 Share Posted May 19, 2019 1 minute ago, davemclaren said: That’s fitba’. 3 posts dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RudiHMFC Posted May 19, 2019 Share Posted May 19, 2019 6 minutes ago, TheStig said: Taking the Scotland job is going to undo this good reputation he's built up, its a job that will only ever end in failure and no Scotland manager has been able to recover from. Walter Smith being the only one to walk away and still manage to stay respected. Mcleish, Burnley, Levein, Strachen all shadows of the men they were before the job. They were all shadows of the men they once were by the time they took the Scotland job tbf. I think it's great he's got the job and I wish him well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selkirkhmfc1874 Posted May 19, 2019 Share Posted May 19, 2019 Huge job for killie to replace him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RudiHMFC Posted May 19, 2019 Share Posted May 19, 2019 8 minutes ago, Bring Back Paulo Sergio said: Whenever you think to yourselves. "Thurs no much a manager kin dae aw he does is pick eh'z best 11." Remember Steve Clarke. The manager is the most vital part of a club. More important than any player. If we want to really push the boundaries of what's possible we need our own Steve Clarke. Someone who won't lie down and isn't intimidated by the old firm. Spot on. I'm desperate for the club to wake up and realise this. Another season of Levein is just depressing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gizmo Posted May 19, 2019 Share Posted May 19, 2019 (edited) 38 minutes ago, busby1985 said: List the clubs envious of us? Hibs? More season ticket holders than us, finished above us in the league 2 years running, new exciting coach getting them playing stylish attacking football? Killie? In Europe, playing stylish football on a shoe string budget punching way above their weight with crowds growing every week? Aberdeen? New stadium on the horizon, stable manager who has a clear style and plan, good strong squad with a potential European place? Name these envious clubs? Can't let a litany of inaccuracies go unaddressed. Aberdeen have found their ceiling and, frankly, have been making hay whilst the sun shines to a degree, having spent bugger all on their stadium and reaped the reward on the pitch, building a side and continuity whilst ourselves, The Rangers and the scum were in the championship. Will they do well with the disruption and expense of an out-of-town stadium construction program? I wager it will have a huge, detrimental effect. Hibs got a new manager bounce but they do not play stylish football. They play hit and chase and, results notwithstanding, we outplayed them in a footballing sense in the last two derbies. There are stats attesting to the fact Hibs hit it long, far more than we do. Kilmarnock have impressed, fair play to them. But as with most clubs outwith the old firm, they'll find it hard to replace players going for fees and very difficult to replace Clarke. We have a completed stadium, a revamped youth academy which is beginning to reveal it's gems: Cochrane, McDonald, Irvine, Smith for starters. Off-field we have increased turnover year on year, well in excess of Hibs turnover (which attests to the abuse of their season ticket concessions to drive the concept of them being well supported - take that away and they will see crowds back at their natural level). And we have the fantastic FOH backing. So no, whilst two back to back 6th place finishes are well below our aspirations, that does not mean that the infrastructure, finances and organisation of the club are inferior to any of the clubs above. I wish people could see the wood for the trees when they criticize the club. If we were winning the league by spending outwith our means and with the place held together with gaffa tape, you'd never hear a peep about these aspects. Edited May 19, 2019 by Gizmo missed a word Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
William H. Bonney Posted May 19, 2019 Share Posted May 19, 2019 His rousing speech in which he tells the Kilmarnock fans to maintain their fantastic support and keep the old firm fans away will sadly fall on deaf ears when they likely revert to type next season. Yes they have some great players but you’d imagine their success is largely down to Clarke. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
busby1985 Posted May 19, 2019 Share Posted May 19, 2019 21 minutes ago, Barack said: And another... Yeah I take back Aberdeen as an example ?. Almost as miserable a forum as ours haha. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Potter Posted May 19, 2019 Share Posted May 19, 2019 5 minutes ago, Selkirkhmfc1874 said: Huge job for killie to replace him who cares hope they rot, ha ha bunch o moaning faced clowns Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graygo Posted May 19, 2019 Share Posted May 19, 2019 28 minutes ago, Jambof3tornado said: Wonder who killie will go for next?? Has Naismith signed for us yet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bridge of Djoum Posted May 19, 2019 Share Posted May 19, 2019 1 hour ago, BOBTHEBRUCE said: What a job he's done with Kilmarnock and it only took him 2 years. No 5 year plan needed. I think we can all say that he's the right man for the Scotland job. Exciting times. Wow. Haven't heard any of this shit before. All news to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambof3tornado Posted May 19, 2019 Share Posted May 19, 2019 Just seen the interview with Alex Dyer about the scotland no2 job.....someones calling me, and walks away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Brown Posted May 19, 2019 Share Posted May 19, 2019 38 minutes ago, Harry Potter said: Moaning face auld man ha ha, would not let him near ma cat if i had wan, clown 24 minutes ago, Harry Potter said: who cares hope they rot, ha ha bunch o moaning faced clowns Doug in the past, spent a bit money chatting up a kilmarnock girl before she buggered off without a goodbye type posts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Harry Potter Posted May 19, 2019 Share Posted May 19, 2019 12 minutes ago, Tommy Brown said: Doug in the past, spent a bit money chatting up a kilmarnock girl before she buggered off without a goodbye type posts ha ha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Potter Posted May 19, 2019 Share Posted May 19, 2019 9 minutes ago, shaun.lawson said: Never put it on Shawn, im a hearts fan, im hearts, i love hearts, get it shawn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaun.lawson Posted May 19, 2019 Share Posted May 19, 2019 2 minutes ago, Harry Potter said: Never put it on Shawn, im a hearts fan, im hearts, i love hearts, get it shawn Wind-up Doug. Back to work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jr ewing Posted May 19, 2019 Share Posted May 19, 2019 Gary Holt would be interested. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Potter Posted May 19, 2019 Share Posted May 19, 2019 14 minutes ago, shaun.lawson said: Wind-up Doug. Back to work. lol, we just lost to a shit celtic mate, anyway how are u. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaun.lawson Posted May 19, 2019 Share Posted May 19, 2019 6 minutes ago, Harry Potter said: lol, we just lost to a shit celtic mate, anyway how are u. Fine thanks. Today was a dead rubber between two youth teams. It's all about next week, as you know. How's you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smoked-Glass Posted May 19, 2019 Share Posted May 19, 2019 1 hour ago, TheStig said: Taking the Scotland job is going to undo this good reputation he's built up, its a job that will only ever end in failure and no Scotland manager has been able to recover from. Walter Smith being the only one to walk away and still manage to stay respected. Mcleish, Burnley, Levein, Strachen all shadows of the men they were before the job. If we qualify his stock will rise. We have a home play off look forward to as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamboinglasgow Posted May 19, 2019 Share Posted May 19, 2019 1 hour ago, 1874Gorgie1874 said: Either time when we were without a manager. And you know he would accept an offer from us? Or are you using an unprovable hypothetical as fact? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown user Posted May 19, 2019 Share Posted May 19, 2019 7 minutes ago, jamboinglasgow said: And you know he would accept an offer from us? Or are you using an unprovable hypothetical as fact? The guy's literally said that he wouldn't leave Killie for another Scottish club. When the rangers asked if he'd be interested he said no. https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/sport/football/3914474/kilmarnock-steve-clarke-rangers-steven-gerrard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadj Posted May 19, 2019 Share Posted May 19, 2019 1 hour ago, Gizmo said: Can't let a litany of inaccuracies go unaddressed. Aberdeen have found their ceiling and, frankly, have been making hay whilst the sun shines to a degree, having spent bugger all on their stadium and reaped the reward on the pitch, building a side and continuity whilst ourselves, The Rangers and the scum were in the championship. Will they do well with the disruption and expense of an out-of-town stadium construction program? I wager it will have a huge, detrimental effect. Hibs got a new manager bounce but they do not play stylish football. They play hit and chase and, results notwithstanding, we outplayed them in a footballing sense in the last two derbies. There are stats attesting to the fact Hibs hit it long, far more than we do. Kilmarnock have impressed, fair play to them. But as with most clubs outwith the old firm, they'll find it hard to replace players going for fees and very difficult to replace Clarke. We have a completed stadium, a revamped youth academy which is beginning to reveal it's gems: Cochrane, McDonald, Irvine, Smith for starters. Off-field we have increased turnover year on year, well in excess of Hibs turnover (which attests to the abuse of their season ticket concessions to drive the concept of them being well supported - take that away and they will see crowds back at their natural level). And we have the fantastic FOH backing. So no, whilst two back to back 6th place finishes are well below our aspirations, that does not mean that the infrastructure, finances and organisation of the club are inferior to any of the clubs above. I wish people could see the wood for the trees when they criticize the club. If we were winning the league by spending outwith our means and with the place held together with gaffa tape, you'd never hear a peep about these aspects. Hibs have 1 win in the last 7games (2-1 v us) Aberdeen do not have a stable manager , be interesting to see if he is still there in August ??♂️ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamboinglasgow Posted May 19, 2019 Share Posted May 19, 2019 5 minutes ago, Smithee said: The guy's literally said that he wouldn't leave Killie for another Scottish club. When the rangers asked if he'd be interested he said no. https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/sport/football/3914474/kilmarnock-steve-clarke-rangers-steven-gerrard Exactly. I heard that his family are down in England so limited him up here (a reason why Scotland job appeals as it allows him to move back down south.) Kilmarnock as his home town club was the only one that he would move for up here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jr ewing Posted May 19, 2019 Share Posted May 19, 2019 Family live in London. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Dan Posted May 19, 2019 Share Posted May 19, 2019 The Scotland job will be his undoing and quite possibly wreck his career. he has certainly done a sterling job at Killie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Sandiego Posted May 19, 2019 Share Posted May 19, 2019 2 hours ago, busby1985 said: List the clubs envious of us? Hibs? More season ticket holders than us, finished above us in the league 2 years running, new exciting coach getting them playing stylish attacking football? Killie? In Europe, playing stylish football on a shoe string budget punching way above their weight with crowds growing every week? Aberdeen? New stadium on the horizon, stable manager who has a clear style and plan, good strong squad with a potential European place? Name these envious clubs? Could be one of the most inaccuarate posts i've read on here recently and thats saying something. Hibs don't play any football whatsoever, certainly not stylish and attacking. Folk are now just inventing things to use against their own club. Mental. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i wish jj was my dad Posted May 19, 2019 Share Posted May 19, 2019 5 minutes ago, Johnny Sandiego said: Could be one of the most inaccuarate posts i've read on here recently and thats saying something. Hibs don't play any football whatsoever, certainly not stylish and attacking. Folk are now just inventing things to use against their own club. Mental. This is not a new concept. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingantti1874 Posted May 19, 2019 Share Posted May 19, 2019 58 minutes ago, Dannie Boy said: The Scotland job will be his undoing and quite possibly wreck his career. he has certainly done a sterling job at Killie. I actually think we’ve got pretty decent players, certainly better than results suggest.. think he could do very well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kirkierobroy Posted May 19, 2019 Share Posted May 19, 2019 Impressive speech - he and Levein are great for the Scotish game in that they're prepared to stick it to the Old Firm if necessary. I think he's a great choice for the Scotland job. Our players aren't brilliant but they are better than recent results suggest. Clarke should get the best out of them, but: 1) Clarke speaks his mind and isn't above slagging off the SFA, Sevco and Celtic. And they're the people who run Scottish football. Will he last? 2) If he really does lift Scotland, he'll get the English job he probably deserved to be offered on the basis of his Killie work. And then it'll be back to the SFA Basil Fawltys in blazers to carry out another breathtaking bit of manager recruitment... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NB GIN Posted May 19, 2019 Share Posted May 19, 2019 4 hours ago, BOBTHEBRUCE said: What a job he's done with Kilmarnock and it only took him 2 years. No 5 year plan needed. I think we can all say that he's the right man for the Scotland job. Exciting times. Outstanding job Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seymour M Hersh Posted May 19, 2019 Share Posted May 19, 2019 Now I've no idea what Clarkes next move will be but he is recently quoted as saying he has unfinished business in England. Could it be he has something lined up down there and hence the speech post game (which was s beaut btw)? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NB GIN Posted May 19, 2019 Share Posted May 19, 2019 22 minutes ago, kingantti1874 said: I actually think we’ve got pretty decent players, certainly better than results suggest.. think he could do very well Totally agree there is some good players he will be a great choice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enzo Chiefo Posted May 19, 2019 Share Posted May 19, 2019 Fantastic manager. What a successful period he has had there. Great post match speech. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo92 Posted May 19, 2019 Share Posted May 19, 2019 1 hour ago, Dannie Boy said: The Scotland job will be his undoing and quite possibly wreck his career. he has certainly done a sterling job at Killie. Staying at Killie would be his undoing.. he's not going to take them any better than this season, right time and right challenge for him I would say. If he has half the impact at Scotland that he has at Killie he will have done a great job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1874Gorgie1874 Posted May 19, 2019 Share Posted May 19, 2019 2 hours ago, jamboinglasgow said: And you know he would accept an offer from us? Or are you using an unprovable hypothetical as fact? I don’t know he would accept an offer but the fact he wasn’t included in that 5 man shortlist for the job is a joke Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The White Cockade Posted May 19, 2019 Share Posted May 19, 2019 He took Killie from the bottom of the league to third place Was able to take a good few points off the Old Firm All done with minimal resources Shows what a difference a decent manager can make Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jambocub Posted May 19, 2019 Share Posted May 19, 2019 5 hours ago, Selkirkhmfc1874 said: He wasn't starting from scratch un the championship to be fair Neither was our last 2 managers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RudiHMFC Posted May 19, 2019 Share Posted May 19, 2019 40 minutes ago, Seymour M Hersh said: Now I've no idea what Clarkes next move will be but he is recently quoted as saying he has unfinished business in England. Could it be he has something lined up down there and hence the speech post game (which was s beaut btw)? He'll be announced as the new Scotland manager shortly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gashauskis9 Posted May 19, 2019 Share Posted May 19, 2019 Brighton job perhaps? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudi must stay Posted May 19, 2019 Share Posted May 19, 2019 4 hours ago, Jambof3tornado said: Wonder who killie will go for next?? Could be his assistant Alex Dyer, I remember him being a totally out of the box appointment for them and that he shared Clarke's ideas on the game http://youtu.be/-PTcEZM0iZA I think a glimpse into the man and his charisma and motivational qualities there. Can't wait to see him for the national team to be honest. I think he is the best choice around right now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomaso Posted May 19, 2019 Share Posted May 19, 2019 2 hours ago, sadj said: Hibs have 1 win in the last 7games (2-1 v us) Don't remind us! ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudi must stay Posted May 19, 2019 Share Posted May 19, 2019 36 minutes ago, The White Cockade said: He took Killie from the bottom of the league to third place Was able to take a good few points off the Old Firm All done with minimal resources Shows what a difference a decent manager can make Spot on. Except I think your underselling him, Clarke is a great manager 2 hours ago, Dannie Boy said: The Scotland job will be his undoing and quite possibly wreck his career. he has certainly done a sterling job at Killie. I don't think it will at all, he'll come in and shake things up, and make it a team were you have to earn your place. He could absolutely brilliant Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaun.lawson Posted May 19, 2019 Share Posted May 19, 2019 40 minutes ago, Gashauskis9 said: Brighton job perhaps? Already gone to Graham Potter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bring Back Paulo Sergio Posted May 19, 2019 Share Posted May 19, 2019 3 hours ago, Dannie Boy said: The Scotland job will be his undoing and quite possibly wreck his career. he has certainly done a sterling job at Killie. Hopefully he has a torrid time in the Scotland job and Hearts can offer him a way back. I can dream. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambof3tornado Posted May 19, 2019 Share Posted May 19, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, rudi must stay said: Could be his assistant Alex Dyer, I remember him being a totally out of the box appointment for them and that he shared Clarke's ideas on the game http://youtu.be/-PTcEZM0iZA I think a glimpse into the man and his charisma and motivational qualities there. Can't wait to see him for the national team to be honest. I think he is the best choice around right now Think Clarke will take dyer with him maybe. Maybe not, I assumed they had worked together before but apparently not. Edited May 19, 2019 by Jambof3tornado Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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