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Maple Leaf
4 hours ago, Mauricio Pinilla said:

Actual thick as **** plastic piece of shit country. 

 

That attitude towards America seems to have become increasingly prevalent in the last four years.

 

I doubt if that's what Trump had in mind with his MAGA nonsense. Yet he and his acolytes continue to spout it, although some fans have altered it to "Keep America Great."  Yeah, right.

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I P Knightley
15 minutes ago, Maple Leaf said:

 

That attitude towards America seems to have become increasingly prevalent in the last four years.

 

I doubt if that's what Trump had in mind with his MAGA nonsense. Yet he and his acolytes continue to spout it, although some fans have altered it to "Keep America Great."  Yeah, right.

I used to work for an organisation that was taken over by an American set-up. I had/have good relationships with a number of my colleagues stateside. They're largely of the professional classes and like to do the sorts of things I like to do (music, drinking, cycling, taking the p155 out of each other) and you would never guess that they live in such a ****ed up place. We rarely touched on politics but they are mighty embarrassed if conversation turns to Trump; although if it's me or my Brit colleagues taking the p155, they're quick to come back with Brexit-related p155-take. 

 

Only one of them that I worked with carried a gun. A proper inadequate, he was. He didn't enjoy being teased about it but foamed at the mouth about it being the second amendment. He carried the effing thing in the office which had plenty of security and was in a business park in the middle of nowhere. I could never figure out what threat he perceived.

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Maple Leaf
5 minutes ago, I P Knightley said:

I used to work for an organisation that was taken over by an American set-up. I had/have good relationships with a number of my colleagues stateside. They're largely of the professional classes and like to do the sorts of things I like to do (music, drinking, cycling, taking the p155 out of each other) and you would never guess that they live in such a ****ed up place. We rarely touched on politics but they are mighty embarrassed if conversation turns to Trump; although if it's me or my Brit colleagues taking the p155, they're quick to come back with Brexit-related p155-take. 

 

Only one of them that I worked with carried a gun. A proper inadequate, he was. He didn't enjoy being teased about it but foamed at the mouth about it being the second amendment. He carried the effing thing in the office which had plenty of security and was in a business park in the middle of nowhere. I could never figure out what threat he perceived.

 

In that example, there was no threat.  I believe, that with some of them, it helps offset a sense of personal inadequacy.

 

 

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I P Knightley
1 minute ago, Maple Leaf said:

 

In that example, there was no threat.  I believe, that with some of them, it helps offset a sense of personal inadequacy.

 

 

A point which I made to him. Teenypeeny.

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Tazio
1 minute ago, Maple Leaf said:

 

In that example, there was no threat.  I believe, that with some of them, it helps offset a sense of personal inadequacy.

 

 

I’m a member of a watch (Timepieces) group On Facebook and the group admins had to clamp down on Americans posting photos of their watches and guns together as an “every day carry”. Some of them got very huffy about it and didn’t understand people from other countries found it distasteful. 

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Maple Leaf
1 minute ago, I P Knightley said:

A point which I made to him. Teenypeeny.

 

:rofl:

 

I wasn't thinking of that so much, more along the lines of making a wimpy guy feel like a tough guy.

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I P Knightley
40 minutes ago, Maple Leaf said:

 

:rofl:

 

I wasn't thinking of that so much, more along the lines of making a wimpy guy feel like a tough guy.

There was definitely that as well. This guy kept his gun concealed under his tanktop. 

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trotter
1 hour ago, I P Knightley said:

He carried the effing thing in the office which had plenty of security and was in a business park in the middle of nowhere. I could never figure out what threat he perceived.

 

1 hour ago, Tazio said:

I’m a member of a watch (Timepieces) group On Facebook and the group admins had to clamp down on Americans posting photos of their watches and guns together as an “every day carry”. Some of them got very huffy about it and didn’t understand people from other countries found it distasteful. 

There was a huge outcry a few years back when Texas became an open carry state, which essentially means you can walk down the street with your gun on show. 

 

The thing is, unless you are just walking down the street, the whole thing is pointless because there's very few places you can carry a gun inside regardless of what permit you have - bars, restaurants, shopping malls, libraries, public buildings, offices - basically anywhere you might actually want to go. 

 

In other words, nothing actually changed. Didn't see guns on the streets before, still don't now. 

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Joey J J Jr Shabadoo
1 hour ago, Maple Leaf said:

An Evangelical pastor is urging Christians to mobilise for civil war to fight left-wing activists.

 

https://www.newsweek.com/evangelical-pastor-urges-christians-mobilize-fight-civil-war-against-left-wing-activists-1531827

 

The country is going to hell in a hand basket. 

Pretty much everything I'd expect from the racist Evangelicals. Apart from Jesus using the word gonna.

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Joey J J Jr Shabadoo
8 hours ago, Jambo-Jimbo said:

Freudian Slip?

 

The 'Trump Make America Great Again Commitee' ran an ad which has since been withdrawn, urging people to 'support our troops'.

 

The only problem was that the stock photo they used had Russian MiG-29's in it & a soldier carrying an AK-74.  :rofl:

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/09/14/trump-ad-asks-people-to-support-the-troops-but-it-uses-a-picture-of-russian-jets-414883

Reminds me of the BNP using pictures of Polish spitfires in their propaganda leaflets.

 

https://metro.co.uk/2009/03/04/bnp-anti-immigrant-battle-for-britain-poster-uses-polish-spitfire-506102/

 

 

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trotter

I got my Green Card approval today, only taken 18 months. Guess I can now start telling people how I really feel about Donald boy... :rofl:

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Maple Leaf
1 hour ago, trotter said:

I got my Green Card approval today, only taken 18 months. Guess I can now start telling people how I really feel about Donald boy... :rofl:

 

In Texas?  I'd be careful about that. :peepwall:

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Maple Leaf

Trump announced today that the aluminum tariffs he imposed on Canada in August are being removed again.

 

Let's see now ... earlier in his presidency it was tariffs imposed then tariffs removed.  This year it was tariffs imposed again then tariffs removed again.  It's good to see the US has a coherent approach to trade.

 

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milky_26
12 minutes ago, Maple Leaf said:

Trump announced today that the aluminum tariffs he imposed on Canada in August are being removed again.

 

Let's see now ... earlier in his presidency it was tariffs imposed then tariffs removed.  This year it was tariffs imposed again then tariffs removed again.  It's good to see the US has a coherent approach to trade.

 

i wonder if he learned the hokey cokey just after he entered the white house?

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Maple Leaf
8 minutes ago, milky_26 said:

i wonder if he learned the hokey cokey just after he entered the white house?

 

I hope so because that's what it's all about.

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trotter
33 minutes ago, Maple Leaf said:

 

In Texas?  I'd be careful about that. :peepwall:

Not as much as you may think...

Remember, the vast majority of the state are Texans first, Americans second.

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EH11_2NL
7 hours ago, I P Knightley said:

There was definitely that as well. This guy kept his gun concealed under his tanktop

That actually tells you everything you need to know about the limpdick.

:robboyas:Tanktop

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Just watched Anderson Cooper interview Bob Woodward.  Woodward comes over very honest, very well.He got some interesting comments from Trump. I thought finally hen Trump came up with something and said I was told by two people, Woodward asked who are they, Trump had no answer, he uses that tactic all the time I spoke to a friend on the phone, two people told me, all imaginary characters. The man is and it may be he is the only President being precisely quoted, but having one myself I can recognise a gutter mouth fairly easily. How anyone can vote for Trump for any position beats me all to hell.

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JFK-1
10 hours ago, I P Knightley said:

There was definitely that as well. This guy kept his gun concealed under his tanktop. 

 

I can't stand that kind and have a suspicion some or maybe even many are psychopaths desperate for an excuse to shoot somebody. I encountered one in a Walmart one day and he confirmed all my suspicions about this kind or at the very least certainly him.

He had heard me speaking to an assistant while I was asking where I could find a specific product and concluded I was British which seemed to fascinate him. So he's asking me where exactly in Britain I come from then quickly wants to talk about guns.

Informs me he never goes anywhere without a gun. Has one in a shoulder holster under his jacket. Sleeps with one under his pillow and another in a drawer nearby.

I informed him British people don't have guns they're outlawed and then gets the spiel about being at the power of the government. A wacko with a 6 shooter ready to take on the US military and their missile firing drones.

But anyway he eventually starts talking about all the creatures he shoots which is pretty much absolutely anything that comes in range. Squirrels, raccoons, skunks, armadillos, any bird, anything.

This nut absolutely loves killing anything he can anytime he can. He shoots into trees if he can hear something rustling away in there but can't see it. Could be a kid for all he knows but he goes right ahead. Can't miss a chance to possibly kill something.

Another of his favourites is shooting "stray dogs". Now all around here I frequently see flyers stuck to lamp posts etc with pictures of missing dogs. If you see this dog call this number. And that's what this psycho is shooting. Lost dogs.

Now even if I saw a dog which I concluded wasn't lost but a real homeless stray i'm not going to shoot it. I'm going to either take it to a shelter or adopt it.

Even if it were rabid and I had to I would derive nothing but pain not pleasure from killing a dog. But this psycho clearly loves killing these dogs and anything else that crosses his path.

That's the way I view huge numbers of these gun nuts. Psychopaths. And believe you me huge numbers of them are dreaming of getting an excuse to shoot a human being. I don't need to be a psychologist to see that in them.

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2 hours ago, JFK-1 said:

 

I can't stand that kind and have a suspicion some or maybe even many are psychopaths desperate for an excuse to shoot somebody. I encountered one in a Walmart one day and he confirmed all my suspicions about this kind or at the very least certainly him.

He had heard me speaking to an assistant while I was asking where I could find a specific product and concluded I was British which seemed to fascinate him. So he's asking me where exactly in Britain I come from then quickly wants to talk about guns.

Informs me he never goes anywhere without a gun. Has one in a shoulder holster under his jacket. Sleeps with one under his pillow and another in a drawer nearby.

I informed him British people don't have guns they're outlawed and then gets the spiel about being at the power of the government. A wacko with a 6 shooter ready to take on the US military and their missile firing drones.

But anyway he eventually starts talking about all the creatures he shoots which is pretty much absolutely anything that comes in range. Squirrels, raccoons, skunks, armadillos, any bird, anything.

This nut absolutely loves killing anything he can anytime he can. He shoots into trees if he can hear something rustling away in there but can't see it. Could be a kid for all he knows but he goes right ahead. Can't miss a chance to possibly kill something.

Another of his favourites is shooting "stray dogs". Now all around here I frequently see flyers stuck to lamp posts etc with pictures of missing dogs. If you see this dog call this number. And that's what this psycho is shooting. Lost dogs.

Now even if I saw a dog which I concluded wasn't lost but a real homeless stray i'm not going to shoot it. I'm going to either take it to a shelter or adopt it.

Even if it were rabid and I had to I would derive nothing but pain not pleasure from killing a dog. But this psycho clearly loves killing these dogs and anything else that crosses his path.

That's the way I view huge numbers of these gun nuts. Psychopaths. And believe you me huge numbers of them are dreaming of getting an excuse to shoot a human being. I don't need to be a psychologist to see that in them.

You met Eric Trump in Walmart?

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ri Alban
2 hours ago, JFK-1 said:

 

I can't stand that kind and have a suspicion some or maybe even many are psychopaths desperate for an excuse to shoot somebody. I encountered one in a Walmart one day and he confirmed all my suspicions about this kind or at the very least certainly him.

He had heard me speaking to an assistant while I was asking where I could find a specific product and concluded I was British which seemed to fascinate him. So he's asking me where exactly in Britain I come from then quickly wants to talk about guns.

Informs me he never goes anywhere without a gun. Has one in a shoulder holster under his jacket. Sleeps with one under his pillow and another in a drawer nearby.

I informed him British people don't have guns they're outlawed and then gets the spiel about being at the power of the government. A wacko with a 6 shooter ready to take on the US military and their missile firing drones.

But anyway he eventually starts talking about all the creatures he shoots which is pretty much absolutely anything that comes in range. Squirrels, raccoons, skunks, armadillos, any bird, anything.

This nut absolutely loves killing anything he can anytime he can. He shoots into trees if he can hear something rustling away in there but can't see it. Could be a kid for all he knows but he goes right ahead. Can't miss a chance to possibly kill something.

Another of his favourites is shooting "stray dogs". Now all around here I frequently see flyers stuck to lamp posts etc with pictures of missing dogs. If you see this dog call this number. And that's what this psycho is shooting. Lost dogs.

Now even if I saw a dog which I concluded wasn't lost but a real homeless stray i'm not going to shoot it. I'm going to either take it to a shelter or adopt it.

Even if it were rabid and I had to I would derive nothing but pain not pleasure from killing a dog. But this psycho clearly loves killing these dogs and anything else that crosses his path.

That's the way I view huge numbers of these gun nuts. Psychopaths. And believe you me huge numbers of them are dreaming of getting an excuse to shoot a human being. I don't need to be a psychologist to see that in them.

His mum and dad are probably buried in the basement. 

There's a thing, why do all these nutters have basements, or am I watching too many films. :D

Anyway... Hopefully some day soon, a pack of wolves will Karma his gun abusing ass. 

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Cade

"Herd Mentality will make covid go away"

 

a) It's Herd Immunity ya dick.

 

b) There is no proof that herd immunity works with covid-19.

 

c) Going back to normal and hoping for the best is going to kill hundreds of thousands more people.

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Maple Leaf
8 hours ago, ri Alban said:

His mum and dad are probably buried in the basement. 

There's a thing, why do all these nutters have basements, or am I watching too many films. :D

Anyway... Hopefully some day soon, a pack of wolves will Karma his gun abusing ass. 

 

Almost all houses in North America have basements.  It's where the furnace and water heater are installed.  They're usually quite spacious and often divided into rooms, so they can be used for extra storage space, spare bedrooms, etc. 

 

In rare cases, people will chain a troublesome relative to a wall for several years.  Because they're in the basement, their cries for help can't be heard by the neighbours. That's rare though as it tends to make the house more difficult to sell, when the time comes.

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EH11_2NL
1 hour ago, Maple Leaf said:

 

Almost all houses in North America have basements.  It's where the furnace and water heater are installed.  They're usually quite spacious and often divided into rooms, so they can be used for extra storage space, spare bedrooms, etc. 

 

In rare cases, people will chain a troublesome relative to a wall for several years.  Because they're in the basement, their cries for help can't be heard by the neighbours. That's rare though as it tends to make the house more difficult to sell, when the time comes.

A lot of 'specialist knowledge' there methinks :cornette:

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Jambo-Jimbo
27 minutes ago, EH11_2NL said:

A lot of 'specialist knowledge' there methinks :cornette:

 

Indeed, did he ever say how long it took to sell his last house? 

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JackLadd

I 'played up' the virus and Biden is to blame for not instigating a national face mask mandate - Trump :cornette: 

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I P Knightley
2 hours ago, Maple Leaf said:

 

Almost all houses in North America have basements.  It's where the furnace and water heater are installed.  They're usually quite spacious and often divided into rooms, so they can be used for extra storage space, spare bedrooms, etc. 

 

In rare cases, people will chain a troublesome relative to a wall for several years.  Because they're in the basement, their cries for help can't be heard by the neighbours. That's rare though as it tends to make the house more difficult to sell, when the time comes.

It's why there are freshly laid patios in the back 'yards' of most houses that come to the property market. Relocation before a bit of relocation.

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I P Knightley
2 minutes ago, JackLadd said:

I 'played up' the virus and Biden is to blame for not instigating a national face mask mandate - Trump :cornette: 

Despite being recorded by Woodward saying (more than once) that he preferred to downplay it.

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Maple Leaf
6 minutes ago, JackLadd said:

I 'played up' the virus and Biden is to blame for not instigating a national face mask mandate - Trump :cornette: 

 

Seriously??  Did he actually attach any blame to Biden for this?

 

If so, he's more deranged than I thought.

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JackLadd
3 minutes ago, I P Knightley said:

Despite being recorded by Woodward saying (more than once) that he preferred to downplay it.

 

I like how Donnie told Fox that he read the book in one go overnight and is okay/ fine with it. Woodward concluding chapter is: Trump is unfit and not the man for the job.

 

 

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JackLadd
3 minutes ago, Maple Leaf said:

 

Seriously??  Did he actually attach any blame to Biden for this?

 

If so, he's more deranged than I thought.

 

This is why Gen Mattis quietly went to a cathedral daily to pray for the nation in a back row pew. Trump is not sane.  

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I P Knightley
16 minutes ago, JackLadd said:

 

I like how Donnie told Fox that he read the book in one go overnight and is okay/ fine with it. Woodward concluding chapter is: Trump is unfit and not the man for the job.

 

 

I missed seeing that. Priceless!

 

Showing off (aka lying) that he can read a book is one thing but walking into an endorsement of a book that declares him unfit is brilliant.

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Meanwhile, the magazine Scientific American on Tuesday endorsed a presidential candidate for the first time in its 175-year history, backing Democrat Joe Biden for the White House.

 

The magazine said Mr Trump "rejects evidence and science" and described his response to the coronavirus pandemic as "dishonest and inept".

 

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JFK-1

The Scientific American has published a damning article which in large part goes over the scientific inadequacies of Trump. Failure to adequately deal with the pandemic. Crippling of the Environmental Protection Agency while denying climate change and a lot more.

But concludes on a non scientific point.

 

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Although Trump and his allies have tried to create obstacles that prevent people from casting ballots safely in November, either by mail or in person, it is crucial that we surmount them and vote.

It's time to move Trump out and elect Biden, who has a record of following the data and being guided by science.

 

Scientific American Endorses Joe Biden

We’ve never backed a presidential candidate in our 175-year history—until now.

FULL ARTICLE

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Cade

Accusations flying that ICE are performing involuntary hysterectomies in detention centres.

 

That's feckin terrifying.

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Just now, Cade said:

Accusations flying that ICE are performing involuntary hysterectomies in detention centres.

 

That's feckin terrifying.

 

It is terrifying, and it's quite clearly genocide in accordance with International Human Rights Law.

 

Yet the plurality of responses I've seen from American liberals? "Even when they're torturing brown people they're also blatant misogynists. Why are there no forced vasectomies, only hysterectomies?"

 

REALLY? That's what they're getting out of this? I've seen no broad response from Democratic politicians condemning it for what it is either.

 

The correct approach would be, "We will be impeaching the president immediately with charges including ethnic cleansing in concentration camps, and following up by asking for a UN investigation and trial of all who are the architects of this outrage, for crimes against humanity."

 

That is not the response by anybody in power while genocide is being committed inside American borders.

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JFK-1
17 minutes ago, Justin Z said:

The correct approach would be, "We will be impeaching the president immediately

 

Thing is we already know how that plays out. It needs the Republicans to remove him and they're not going to do it. Waste of time and energy at this point. Fake news. etc.
 

18 minutes ago, Justin Z said:

with charges including ethnic cleansing in concentration camps, and following up by asking for a UN investigation and trial of all who are the architects of this outrage, for crimes against humanity."

 

Yes, once he's gone follow up on it at a time when neither he nor Republicans can hinder investigations. I feel all the focus right now has to be given to removing him from that office. Achieve that and everything else will fall into place.

Everything that's been happening over the last 4 years should be the end of the Republicans far less Trump. It's a party unfit to exist in a Western democracy far less govern in one.

Think how much more is going to come to light if we can just get him out of that office. The reveal alone will be a historic watershed in American politics. Watergate was nothing in comparison to what he and that party have been doing these past few years.

I know there's a reluctance to imprison ex high officials. Looks too much like activities we see in dictatorships. But there has to be a line drawn. Trump and the Republicans have gone so far over that line it's now out of sight to them.

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Justin Z
5 minutes ago, JFK-1 said:

Think how much more is going to come to light if we can just get him out of that office. The reveal alone will be a historic watershed in American politics. Watergate was nothing in comparison to what he and that party have been doing these past few years.


I know there's a reluctance to imprison ex high officials. Looks too much like activities we see in dictatorships. But there has to be a line drawn. Trump and the Republicans have gone so far over that line it's now out of sight to them.

 

Based on Obama's charging and imprisoning zero architects of the worldwide financial crisis, and his and the Democratic leadership's excuses for why they didn't bring Bush administration officials to trial for torture and other war crimes, I have zero faith in there being any consequences.

 

6 minutes ago, JFK-1 said:

Thing is we already know how that plays out. It needs the Republicans to remove him and they're not going to do it. Waste of time and energy at this point. Fake news. etc.

 

Doing it now would serve two purposes: One, it would be the right thing to do. Two, it would create yet another record of Republican intransigence and enabling of Trump's far-reaching criminality and cruelty.

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JFK-1
35 minutes ago, Justin Z said:

it would create yet another record of Republican intransigence and enabling of Trump's far-reaching criminality and cruelty.

 

No doubt, you know how I feel about him and about them. But I don't know if that could even happen before the election. What I do know is that it would probably be welcomed by him and them.

A perfect diversion from his indisputable incompetence which ironically isn't even the worst thing about him. It would be painted as Democrats trying to steal an election with another 'witch hunt'.

And as i say would distract from the major objective right now.  Getting him and them out of that office.There will be plenty of time to deal with it afterwards providing the major objective is achieved.

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Mysterion
13 hours ago, Cade said:

Accusations flying that ICE are performing involuntary hysterectomies in detention centres.

 

That's feckin terrifying.


I would guess that someone has needed some sort of emergency intervention and this was the result. I’m sure I heard yesterday there was 2 cases.

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Mysterion
1 hour ago, Mysterion said:


I would guess that someone has needed some sort of emergency intervention and this was the result. I’m sure I heard yesterday there was 2 cases.

 

Sorry - just heard this was at least 17 women. 

Something seriously wrong with America.

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Bigsmak
1 hour ago, Mysterion said:

 

Sorry - just heard this was at least 17 women. 

Something seriously wrong with America.

 

If this was Iraq or Turkey - The USA would be demanding that the leaders were tried as Criminals and sanctions would already be imposed on the countries. 

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Maple Leaf
2 hours ago, Bigsmak said:

 

If this was Iraq or Turkey - The USA would be demanding that the leaders were tried as Criminals and sanctions would already be imposed on the countries. 

 

I'm not sure.  The far-right Christian elements in the USA are obsessed with all aspects of human reproduction.  Those people will be thinking, "Hmm, I wish we'd thought of that."

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Maple Leaf

This article is mostly about how much Canadians dislike Trump, but it also talks about 13 other countries, and many of them dislike Trump even more.  As a result, the world's view of the USA in general is being dragged down.  So much for MAGA.

 

https://www.thestar.com/news/world/2020/09/15/canadians-dislike-of-donald-trump-hits-a-new-low.html?li_source=LI&li_medium=thestar_recommended_for_you

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Bigsmak
1 hour ago, Maple Leaf said:

 

I'm not sure.  The far-right Christian elements in the USA are obsessed with all aspects of human reproduction.  Those people will be thinking, "Hmm, I wish we'd thought of that."

 

If it was Christian Women who were there illegally then.  

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