EIEIO Posted February 8, 2019 Share Posted February 8, 2019 Just checked my bet365 account to win the cup outright :- Heart of Midlothian 14/1 Leith losers 12/1 Any betting experts care to explain this ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BonningtonJambo Posted February 8, 2019 Share Posted February 8, 2019 Bit of money put on by hibs fans lately will bring the odds down Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EIEIO Posted February 8, 2019 Author Share Posted February 8, 2019 Spoiler 10 minutes ago, BonningtonJambo said: Bit of money put on by hibs fans lately will bring the odds down Drifted out to 16/1 so backed us each way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dayman Posted February 8, 2019 Share Posted February 8, 2019 40 minutes ago, EIEIO said: Just checked my bet365 account to win the cup outright :- Heart of Midlothian 14/1 Leith losers 12/1 Any betting experts care to explain this ? I think after the initial odds are posted it all just a big algorithm based on money been put on certain teams. Apparently a lot of people have been putting hibs in and not so many hearts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poultry Posted February 8, 2019 Share Posted February 8, 2019 Got us at 20/1 a wee while back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Beni of Gorgie Posted February 8, 2019 Share Posted February 8, 2019 Hibs were the last team to win a trophy bar Celtic. Stranger than ****ing fiction that but perhaps a reason Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baxfee Posted February 8, 2019 Share Posted February 8, 2019 Jambos must be awake and putting bets on - 8-1 on WH! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bookkeeper Posted February 8, 2019 Share Posted February 8, 2019 1 hour ago, EIEIO said: Just checked my bet365 account to win the cup outright :- Heart of Midlothian 14/1 Leith losers 12/1 Any betting experts care to explain this ? Likely due to them being the last team to win it out with Celtic and the notion this means something. Also the fact the odds will have been set by people who neither care about or have much knowledge of Scottish football. It won't be a market they care too much about. Word of advice though, don't back either! Neither Hearts nor Hibs are winning jack shit this season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G0rd0nM1lls Posted February 8, 2019 Share Posted February 8, 2019 (edited) Strange. Remember though: bookmakers make books. They're not punters. They set their odds on a percentage basis. The trick of the trade is to get an even book. One where the liability on each outcome is more or less identical. Doing that guarantees the percentage of turnover they've budgeted for using on two weeks in Barbados remains in the satchel. Makes no odds if they think Town, Albion, United or whoever are the third-best team in a competition. If Town, Albion, United or whoever are known to have fans who like a punt, bookies will stick them in at artificially short odds, maybe even favourites, confident that the mugs will pile in. Ing-Ger-Lund are the best example of this. Bet365's compiler may think the Vermin are gash. He may think they've been underachieving and might recapture last spring's form under a new gaffer. That makes no odds if punters are backing them. It's not his job to gamble. If the Vermin are a biggish loser in Bet365's ledger, the complier has to discourage further bets on them. If we're not being backed, he has to encourage us to have a few bawbees on. Not that a compiler has much say these days at a firm the size of Bet365. It's done by algorithm and software. In any case, we are generally much shorter than the Vermin. McBookie / BetVictor has us at 8-1, which is appalling value! Makes us 21-20 for each of the QF, SF and Final. May have to beat the Sheep and Erse Cheeks in those three games. The Vermin are 10-1 with McBookie / Victor. Betfair / Power has us at 10-1 and the Vermin at 14-1, which is about what you'd expect. Skybet has us 16-1 and them at 14-1, which is top price in both instances. Killie were 2nd in the league at the draw for the last round and were 25-1. That looked the bet. They're still 20-1 with The Rangers coming to town. Still looks the each way bet to me. Edited February 8, 2019 by G0rd0nM1lls typo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lauriesrank Posted February 8, 2019 Share Posted February 8, 2019 Killie are 15/4 and kirkcaldy rovers are 9/1 got be worth a quid double!! I'm not all that realistic about raith beating them as they can be ok at home and will probably score, however a treble on Killie, East fife and Dundee hibs has to be worth a punt (will go 20p lucky 15 though (include raith), big money) Acca is just over 400s at hills, quid!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckydug Posted February 8, 2019 Share Posted February 8, 2019 1 hour ago, The Bookkeeper said: Likely due to them being the last team to win it out with Celtic and the notion this means something. Also the fact the odds will have been set by people who neither care about or have much knowledge of Scottish football. It won't be a market they care too much about. Word of advice though, don't back either! Neither Hearts nor Hibs are winning jack shit this season. Take it you mean IN YOUR OPINION. Both are up against lower league opposition at home. Every chance they could meet in the 1/4 final. From there only one game to the final. On their day both sides are capable of beating anyone in a one off game. Celtic's run has to end sometime. Hearts ended their 69 game unbeaten run and Hibs were the last team to win a trophy before their current run. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haveyouheard 22 Posted February 8, 2019 Share Posted February 8, 2019 Raith are well worth a bet at those odds, wee tenner fae me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toggie88 Posted February 8, 2019 Share Posted February 8, 2019 Was checking this earlier. Some, I think maybe Paddy Power and BetVictor were offering us at 16s. I'm going to wait on the results from tomorrow's games, as the odds on us might lengthen being a tie behind some teams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bookkeeper Posted February 8, 2019 Share Posted February 8, 2019 1 hour ago, luckydug said: Take it you mean IN YOUR OPINION. Both are up against lower league opposition at home. Every chance they could meet in the 1/4 final. From there only one game to the final. On their day both sides are capable of beating anyone in a one off game. Celtic's run has to end sometime. Hearts ended their 69 game unbeaten run and Hibs were the last team to win a trophy before their current run. ? definitely my opinion chief yep! I'd want far bigger odds than those for any team led by Levein. By my reckoning he's managed a hell of a lot more than 14 attempts to win a trophy for his clubs so there is no value whatsoever at the price. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobNox Posted February 9, 2019 Share Posted February 9, 2019 Seems strange if we are longer odds than Hibs. On paper, both teams should progress to the next round and we are clearly better than Hibs based on league form. It can only mean Hibs fans are lumping more money on than Hearts fans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1971fozzy Posted February 9, 2019 Share Posted February 9, 2019 I got 40/1 start of the season Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1971fozzy Posted February 9, 2019 Share Posted February 9, 2019 7 hours ago, Toggie88 said: Was checking this earlier. Some, I think maybe Paddy Power and BetVictor were offering us at 16s. I'm going to wait on the results from tomorrow's games, as the odds on us might lengthen being a tie behind some teams. If killie beat sevco our odds will plummet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1971fozzy Posted February 9, 2019 Share Posted February 9, 2019 9 hours ago, lauriesrank said: Killie are 15/4 and kirkcaldy rovers are 9/1 got be worth a quid double!! I'm not all that realistic about raith beating them as they can be ok at home and will probably score, however a treble on Killie, East fife and Dundee hibs has to be worth a punt (will go 20p lucky 15 though (include raith), big money) Acca is just over 400s at hills, quid!! Thats a good fun bet at these odds. Cheers cant see Raith getting a win though but worth a quid or two. Never know Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maroon Sailor Posted February 9, 2019 Share Posted February 9, 2019 7 hours ago, 1971fozzy said: Thats a good fun bet at these odds. Cheers cant see Raith getting a win though but worth a quid or two. Never know Fancy Raith to get a draw and finish them off in Kirkcaldy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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