davemclaren Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 3 minutes ago, Pasquale for King said: 102 in 4.5 years? How many clubs signed 18 players in the summer to the detriment of their academy graduates who CL was rightly praised for? My point was that it would interesting to see some actual numerical comparison with other spl clubs. Have we signed twice as many, three times as many or what? I'm sure some statto has the answers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Francis Albert Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 2 hours ago, soonbe110 said: You obviously were not at them - Finance Director is female. Keep up with things FA! Gender fluidity soonbe110! Pigeon holing people as one gender or another or none is offensive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamboAl Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 42 minutes ago, davemclaren said: My point was that it would interesting to see some actual numerical comparison with other spl clubs. Have we signed twice as many, three times as many or what? I'm sure some statto has the answers. The difference between ourselves and other clubs was that we started from virtually scratch 4.5 years ago with little money. We had to acquire a squad on the cheap and have gradually replaced/improved year on year. Add to that the fact that money which might have been available for players has been diverted towards a new stand as the decrepit old stand was costing huge amounts on a regular basis to meet H & S standards (and I'm not sure the authorities didn't sometimes turn a blind eye to help us). In fact, if we got rid of our 10 worst players every year and replaced them with better quality, a lot of fans would be happy as results should also improve. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Francis Albert Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 Just now, JamboAl said: The difference between ourselves and other clubs was that we started from virtually scratch 4.5 years ago with little money. We had to acquire a squad on the cheap and have gradually replaced/improved year on year. Add to that the fact that money which might have been available for players has been diverted towards a new stand as the decrepit old stand was costing huge amounts on a regular basis to meet H & S standards (and I'm not sure the authorities didn't sometimes turn a blind eye to help us). In fact, if we got rid of our 10 worst players every year and replaced them with better quality, a lot of fans would be happy as results should also improve. Maintenance of the new stand costs more than that of the old stand. Which is fine as long as we are almost filling it and making money from hospitalty etc. Stands of a similar age to our old one at for example Fulham and Dundee still operate safely. It was the right decision to bite the bullet and replace the old stand but it wasn't essential. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soonbe110 Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 1 hour ago, Pasquale for King said: They’re not looking at signing anyone so there aren’t any negotiations. Want a bet on that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inch Hearts Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 59 minutes ago, davemclaren said: My point was that it would interesting to see some actual numerical comparison with other spl clubs. Have we signed twice as many, three times as many or what? I'm sure some statto has the answers. I think the difference is many of the clubs in the league can only afford to offer players 1 year deals which leads to high turnover. We benefit by not having to do that so should be much more settled. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soonbe110 Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 10 minutes ago, Francis Albert said: Gender fluidity soonbe110! Pigeon holing people as one gender or another or none is offensive. That’s exactly what you did. Finance Director so it’s a he. Regardless, with your interest in the Clubs finances over so many years I’m surprised you haven’t exchanged views with Finance Director, never mind not even knowing name and/or gender. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agentjambo Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 13 minutes ago, soonbe110 said: Want a bet on that? Yes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davemclaren Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 20 minutes ago, Francis Albert said: Maintenance of the new stand costs more than that of the old stand. Which is fine as long as we are almost filling it and making money from hospitalty etc. Stands of a similar age to our old one at for example Fulham and Dundee still operate safely. It was the right decision to bite the bullet and replace the old stand but it wasn't essential. Apart from the council about to kick off the nursery area redevelopment independently which could have scuppered any future plans we might have had. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 18 minutes ago, soonbe110 said: Want a bet on that? As of last week CL said they weren’t looking at any other players to come in apart from Vanacek, is he lying? As far as I’m aware there is no negotiations with anyone ongoing. Has he changed his mind on his own signings from a few months back,since Friday? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Francis Albert Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 4 minutes ago, davemclaren said: Apart from the council about to kick off the nursery area redevelopment independently which could have scuppered any future plans we might have had. Fair point Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 1 hour ago, davemclaren said: My point was that it would interesting to see some actual numerical comparison with other spl clubs. Have we signed twice as many, three times as many or what? I'm sure some statto has the answers. Hope this one isn’t deleted, Hibs for example have signed on average ten players every summer since the turn of the century. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Francis Albert Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 20 minutes ago, soonbe110 said: That’s exactly what you did. Finance Director so it’s a he. Regardless, with your interest in the Clubs finances over so many years I’m surprised you haven’t exchanged views with Finance Director, never mind not even knowing name and/or gender. Ok. My post about gender fluidity was not serious. Which I thought was pretty obvious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davemclaren Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 5 minutes ago, Pasquale for King said: Hope this one isn’t deleted, Hibs for example have signed on average ten players every summer since the turn of the century. Why would it be deleted? ? So that would mean we have signed twice as many as them, if the figures are true. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 Just now, davemclaren said: Why would it be deleted? ? So that would mean we have signed twice as many as them, if the figures are true. I made a comment about Hibs signings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davemclaren Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 5 minutes ago, Pasquale for King said: I made a comment about Hibs signings. You've lost me on that one I'm afraid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soonbe110 Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 13 minutes ago, Pasquale for King said: As of last week CL said they weren’t looking at any other players to come in apart from Vanacek, is he lying? As far as I’m aware there is no negotiations with anyone ongoing. Has he changed his mind on his own signings from a few months back,since Friday? I’m assuming from your comments you are insider in terms of transfers at Hearts? Otherwise how would you know ‘as far as I’m aware there is no negotiations with anyone ongoing’ ? Another poster with a decent track record re transfer activity suggests Vanacek plus two so who knows? I’m sure Levein won’t reveal to the media or fans what his January transfer plans are. That just fuels pointless speculation. I’ll hazard a guess that incoming transfer activity is underway and the scale of it depends on how many, and who, he can move out in January. An example, if we are offered decent money for Djoum we will take it I suspect. We would need a replacement. I do know that we are actively trying to bring in one or two midfielders, whether that’s january or next summer who knows. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soonbe110 Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 29 minutes ago, Agentjambo said: Yes Didn’t offer you a bet. We will sign more than Vanacek in January is my prediction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inch Hearts Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 3 minutes ago, davemclaren said: Why would it be deleted? ? So that would mean we have signed twice as many as them, if the figures are true. 2018 Summer: Aberdeen - 10 Celtic - 6 Dundee - 13 Hamilton - 16 Hibs - 8 Killie - 8 Livi - 14 Motherwell - 8 Rangers - 16 Super Js - 7 St Midden - 14 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kimosavi Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 8 hours ago, Yoda said: I attend the AGM every year and they are a really good experience. The Gorgie Suite is usually fully and there's the opportunity to ask questions directly to anyone of the directors including Craig Levein. I thought Craig would have got it tighter last year on the back of the Cathro disaster, but he put his hands up, took full responsibility and said he'd fix it. Wonder how it will go this year? Nobody will have the bottle to say anything to Levein Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davemclaren Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 1 minute ago, Inch Hearts said: 2018 Summer: Aberdeen - 10 Celtic - 6 Dundee - 13 Hamilton - 16 Hibs - 8 Killie - 8 Livi - 14 Motherwell - 8 Rangers - 16 Super Js - 7 St Midden - 14 Interesting. Thanks. We are the highest at 18 but a few clubs are pretty close so it's not wholly atypical. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inch Hearts Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 Just now, davemclaren said: Interesting. Thanks. We are the highest at 18 but a few clubs are pretty close so it's not wholly atypical. Rangers got a new manager and St Mirren, Hamilton and Livi would be the ones with players on mostly one year deals. 6-10 signings seems about right if we are doing things correctly imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 11 minutes ago, soonbe110 said: I’m assuming from your comments you are insider in terms of transfers at Hearts? Otherwise how would you know ‘as far as I’m aware there is no negotiations with anyone ongoing’ ? Another poster with a decent track record re transfer activity suggests Vanacek plus two so who knows? I’m sure Levein won’t reveal to the media or fans what his January transfer plans are. That just fuels pointless speculation. I’ll hazard a guess that incoming transfer activity is underway and the scale of it depends on how many, and who, he can move out in January. An example, if we are offered decent money for Djoum we will take it I suspect. We would need a replacement. I do know that we are actively trying to bring in one or two midfielders, whether that’s january or next summer who knows. £10 to big hearts if we sign someone apart from Vanacek, or if we get an offer for Djoum ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spitonastranger Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 in please Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamboAl Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 1 hour ago, Francis Albert said: Maintenance of the new stand costs more than that of the old stand. Which is fine as long as we are almost filling it and making money from hospitalty etc. Stands of a similar age to our old one at for example Fulham and Dundee still operate safely. It was the right decision to bite the bullet and replace the old stand but it wasn't essential. I'm not talking about normal maintenance. About 15 years ago the old stand was in danger of being closed altogether for H&S reasons and has consistently struggled to get a safety certificate. I would argue it was essential in that unless we kept throwing good money at it, it could have been closed down thus denying us hard needed gate money Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soonbe110 Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 45 minutes ago, Inch Hearts said: 2018 Summer: Aberdeen - 10 Celtic - 6 Dundee - 13 Hamilton - 16 Hibs - 8 Killie - 8 Livi - 14 Motherwell - 8 Rangers - 16 Super Js - 7 St Midden - 14 How many did each club release in the same window? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo 4 Ever Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 What entrance do you use to get into gorgie suite these days? uo along where the museum is or next to new stand? (Or both) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soonbe110 Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 20 minutes ago, Jambo_in_Hamilton said: What entrance do you use to get into gorgie suite these days? uo along where the museum is or next to new stand? (Or both) Gorgie end of new stand Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PTBCAL Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 4 hours ago, kimosavi said: Nobody will have the bottle to say anything to Levein I stood up last year and asked why we were continuing bottling it off Hibs. And tbh I was raging when I said it He was fair in his response tbh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OTT Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 2 minutes ago, PTBCAL said: I stood up last year and asked why we were continuing bottling it off Hibs. And tbh I was raging when I said it He was fair in his response tbh glad someone did, our performances against them had been embarrassing. What was the response (more or less) ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PTBCAL Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 (edited) 4 minutes ago, OTT said: glad someone did, our performances against them had been embarrassing. What was the response (more or less) ? He was equally frustrated and angry and said it wouldn't happen again. Said we might not win but never be bullied. He talked about as a player and manager previously we never ever had a mindset of being bullied Edited December 17, 2018 by PTBCAL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davemclaren Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 1 hour ago, PTBCAL said: I stood up last year and asked why we were continuing bottling it off Hibs. And tbh I was raging when I said it He was fair in his response tbh That was you? You did sound a tad angry. ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yoda Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 5 hours ago, kimosavi said: Nobody will have the bottle to say anything to Levein If I get a seat near the door, I might just ask him. I'll wear my trainers as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PTBCAL Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 7 minutes ago, davemclaren said: That was you? You did sound a tad angry. ? I like to take some credit for knocking Hibs out the cup shortly after ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davemclaren Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 10 minutes ago, PTBCAL said: I like to take some credit for knocking Hibs out the cup shortly after ? ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kimosavi Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 10 hours ago, PTBCAL said: I stood up last year and asked why we were continuing bottling it off Hibs. And tbh I was raging when I said it He was fair in his response tbh Fantastic i want you there again and asking why the squad are a bunch of pansies Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agentjambo Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 Anybody available to give us updates on the AGM as it happens?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckydug Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 7 minutes ago, Agentjambo said: Anybody available to give us updates on the AGM as it happens?? They usually ask people to switch off their phones. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XB52 Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 Filling up now, love coming to these as it makes me feel young compared to the majority of attendees Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad Religion Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 Making an appearance this year Franny? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XB52 Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 9 minutes ago, Bad Religion said: Making an appearance this year Franny? Hope so, the more Pivot boys the better Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Italian Lambretta Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 49 minutes ago, jonnothejambo said: Could be a full house. Cracking view of the Stadium with the turf lighting on under the goals at the Gorgie end. Decent coffee as well but an awful lot of soor faces amongst the attendees. This could be fun. I will read the annual report when I have a spare week.... No doubt all there to moan about those horrible fans in section N Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enzo Chiefo Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 19 hours ago, kimosavi said: Nobody will have the bottle to say anything to Levein I remember questioning him on the logic of having everyone back defending corners. He said then that once he had more height in defence, he wouldn't need to employ that tactic. That was about 16 years ago!! The methodology obviously hasn't changed....we even had 11 back defending a corner against Rangers when they were down to 10 ffs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad Religion Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 6 minutes ago, Enzo Chiefo said: I remember questioning him on the logic of having everyone back defending corners. He said then that once he had more height in defence, he wouldn't need to employ that tactic. That was about 16 years ago!! The methodology obviously hasn't changed....we even had 11 back defending a corner against Rangers when they were down to 10 ffs. Sure you did buddy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomaso Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 31 minutes ago, Enzo Chiefo said: I remember questioning him on the logic of having everyone back defending corners. He said then that once he had more height in defence, he wouldn't need to employ that tactic. That was about 16 years ago!! The methodology obviously hasn't changed....we even had 11 back defending a corner against Rangers when they were down to 10 ffs. I asked him the same question at a fans night in the Gorgie Suite at the start of the season. His curt response was "That's how I like to defend corners!" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inch Hearts Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 19 hours ago, soonbe110 said: How many did each club release in the same window? Released, sold, loan ended: Aberdeen - 10 Celtic - 10 Dundee 14 Hamilton - 10 Us - 12 Hibs - 11 Killie - 12 Livi - 15 Motherwell - 11 Rangers - 16 Super J - 11 St Mirren - 22 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nookie Bear Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 Someone ask what the deal was with Edwards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheetah Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 Could someone ask who Craig Levein would replace Craig Levein with? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GorgieMIlls Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 8 minutes ago, Nookie Bear said: Someone ask what the deal was with Edwards. I thought he was signed as they didnt think they were getting Clare, they then got Clare, so he became suplus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nelly Terraces Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 5 minutes ago, cheetah said: Could someone ask who Craig Levein would replace Craig Levein with? Hazard a guess at absolutely nobody mate? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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