Lord Beni of Gorgie Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 Collum on Saturday with Beaton 4th official. If I was cynical or suspicious I'd say we are being wound up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamhammer Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 Odds on Craig getting sent to stand Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davemclaren Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 1 hour ago, Sir Gio said: Collum on Saturday with Beaton 4th official. If I was cynical or suspicious I'd say we are being wound up Which referees would we want? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunks Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 Collum has been fine this season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JyTees Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 Collum as bad as he is, probably the best we could hope for. Beaton on the other hand. I hope Craig chins him! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmfcbilly Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 17 minutes ago, JyTees said: Collum as bad as he is, probably the best we could hope for. Beaton on the other hand. I hope Craig chins him! The irony of this comment....who would've thought 2 years ago we would be saying or thinking like this about oor wullie?!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magicTs Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 Some Hearts fans have completely lost the plot. Talk about paranoid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigAlim Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 Madden, Collum, Beaton, the axis of limelight grabbers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bongo 1874 Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 5 minutes ago, magicTs said: Some Hearts fans have completely lost the plot. Talk about paranoid. Not paranoid mate the league has been in need of decent referees who don't shat it when it comes to big decisions and are fair. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magicTs Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 1 minute ago, Bongo 1874 said: Not paranoid mate the league has been in need of decent referees who don't shat it when it comes to big decisions and are fair. Maybe so. However I'd prefer if we saw Hearts teams that don't routinely shit it when it matters before worrying about the referees. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastSideJambo Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 I hope Levein completely ignores the ref and sets up a side fully intent on winning. That includes getting as many players as possible into opposition area, in stark contrast to Sunday Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bongo 1874 Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 11 minutes ago, magicTs said: Maybe so. However I'd prefer if we saw Hearts teams that don't routinely shit it when it matters before worrying about the referees. Agree we should have more belief as a team at times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastSideJambo Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 13 minutes ago, magicTs said: Maybe so. However I'd prefer if we saw Hearts teams that don't routinely shit it when it matters before worrying about the referees. Could probably count on one hand the number of really big games we've won since promotion. Many will point to to the 4-0 game against Celtic last season. That was basically a freak result when considered in the context of our season. There haven't been many. Very few in last 18 months. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Boy Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 Good to see the Haynes Manual Mourinhos are here to offer Mr Levein the benefit of their vast managerial experience. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FERRY HEARTS Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 Were stating to sound like selik k o the past if our team play the football we know they can Refs don’t matter HHGH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mscjambo Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 Referees generally aren't the issue. Madden and his crew were awful on Sunday, but we can't turn paranoid and assume their is a conspiracy against us. If that was the case we would be left with no refs. Can't be paranoid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paolo Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 8 hours ago, Dunks said: Collum has been fine this season. He is a lot better than he was. Along as Celtic are not involved. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Potter Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 9 hours ago, davemclaren said: Which referees would we want? One that was previously trained in England, and not a supporter of any scottish club. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davemclaren Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 9 minutes ago, Harry Potter said: One that was previously trained in England, and not a supporter of any scottish club. That would be a different approach from any other European country then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A_A wehatethehibs Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 3 minutes ago, davemclaren said: That would be a different approach from any other European country then. Think that’s what is needed, a different approach because we have a different problem. A different pair of problems one green one blue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamboAl Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 . 12 hours ago, Sir Gio said: Collum on Saturday with Beaton 4th official. If I was cynical or suspicious I'd say we are being wound up Stands to reason. Beaton comes from Motherwell and Collum from Carfin, a couple of miles away. I think they're coming through on the team bus. We've just had Madden from E. Kilbride against Rangers, Thomson from Paisley against St Mirren and now these two jokers officiate their local team. At least tonight Dallas will be geographically neutral as there are no refs from Perth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OmiyaHearts Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 38 minutes ago, JamboAl said: . Stands to reason. Beaton comes from Motherwell and Collum from Carfin, a couple of miles away. I think they're coming through on the team bus. We've just had Madden from E. Kilbride against Rangers, Thomson from Paisley against St Mirren and now these two jokers officiate their local team. At least tonight Dallas will be geographically neutral as there are no refs from Perth. That explains out inept performances in those matches. There was me thinking it was down to the players and the manager. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamboAl Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 1 hour ago, OmiyaHearts said: That explains out inept performances in those matches. There was me thinking it was down to the players and the manager. Has anyone said that explains our inept performances? Whether we played well or not is irrelevant. Fact is Rangers got every decision going and but for a clearly offside goal on Sunday the result might have been different. I think you're trying to create a separate agenda which has been covered many times on other threads. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Felix Lighter Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 1 hour ago, OmiyaHearts said: That explains out inept performances in those matches. There was me thinking it was down to the players and the manager. How are we spelling Rudi these days. Capital R or small r ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Beni of Gorgie Posted December 5, 2018 Author Share Posted December 5, 2018 The difference this week, quite unusual, on a Saturday afternoon to get not one of these "top" referees but 2. That's not paranoia, that's unusual. I am wondering why that would be. You would think a "top" referee like Beaton would have his own game. I'm certain there will be a logical explanation. Craig Levein to blame of course Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bull's-eye Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 Why don't we start handing out Brown envelopes as well? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamboAl Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 26 minutes ago, Oliver Twist said: Why don't we start handing out Brown envelopes as well? f you google Madden you'll see he must have got several from Hector. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomaso Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 As long as we are not playing Celtic, Collum has been fine. Get the feeling we may get some 'involvement' from Beaton on the touchline....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Dunphy Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 5 hours ago, davemclaren said: That would be a different approach from any other European country then. People wouldn’t expect an English referee to referee an England game. Because they can’t possibly be impartial. There’s an argument that the same could be said about referees from within the G postcode. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davemclaren Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 Just now, Phil Dunphy said: People wouldn’t expect an English referee to referee an England game. Because they can’t possibly be impartial. There’s an argument that the same could be said about referees from within the G postcode. Where does it end though? In a league setup all games generally impact all teams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Dunphy Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 1 hour ago, davemclaren said: Where does it end though? In a league setup all games generally impact all teams. Someone made the point to me at work that the linesman on Sunday chested three teams. Hearts, Celtic and Kilmarnock. Look at the outrage down south when Altrincham based referee Anthony Taylor was awarded the Manchester derby, despite his family being United supporters. “There’s no way he can be impartial” they cried. Or Kevin Friend being from near Leicester, officiating a game that could have an impact on Leicester winning the league. “Conflict of interest!” were the claims. Both the commonplace in Scotland. A referee who would regularly attend Rangers matches as a supporter was given charge of a game that would send them top of the league with a win. Where does it all end? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomaso Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 (edited) 18 hours ago, Sir Gio said: Collum on Saturday with Beaton 4th official. If I was cynical or suspicious I'd say we are being wound up Thought you said threads on referees were pointless SG? Edited December 5, 2018 by Thomaso Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amadjambo Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 17 hours ago, Dunks said: Collum has been fine this season. Apart from that horrendous penalty he awarded against us last time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Boy Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 3 hours ago, Oliver Twist said: Why don't we start handing out Brown envelopes as well? **** that, stationary won’t buy us shit. Let’s use money! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamboAl Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 16 hours ago, EastSideJambo said: I hope Levein completely ignores the ref and sets up a side fully intent on winning. That includes getting as many players as possible into opposition area, in stark contrast to Sunday Which players should he pick to do that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunks Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 40 minutes ago, amadjambo said: Apart from that horrendous penalty he awarded against us last time. It's all relative .... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Boy Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 12 minutes ago, JamboAl said: Which players should he pick to do that? Not fair asking him this before the game. Wait until after the match and then he will have more data to form his opinion. ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastSideJambo Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 58 minutes ago, Glib and Shameless Crier said: Not fair asking him this before the game. Wait until after the match and then he will have more data to form his opinion. ? That's pitiful mate. Absolutely pitiful Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Boy Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 4 minutes ago, EastSideJambo said: That's pitiful mate. Absolutely pitiful Calm down Mr T. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastSideJambo Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 6 minutes ago, Glib and Shameless Crier said: Calm down Mr T. What does that mean? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Beni of Gorgie Posted December 5, 2018 Author Share Posted December 5, 2018 2 hours ago, Thomaso said: Thought you said threads on referees were pointless SG? Normally yes. Collum and Beaton tag team seems a bit different though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamboAl Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 21 minutes ago, EastSideJambo said: That's pitiful mate. Absolutely pitiful But true! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastSideJambo Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 3 minutes ago, JamboAl said: But true! He needs to explain his last remark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamboAl Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 2 minutes ago, EastSideJambo said: He needs to explain his last remark I think you need to answer this question Which players should he pick to do that? If you had answered it instead of cowardly trying to change the issue, he probably wouldn't have made his innocent statement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastSideJambo Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 (edited) 18 minutes ago, JamboAl said: I think you need to answer this question Which players should he pick to do that? If you had answered it instead of cowardly trying to change the issue, he probably wouldn't have made his innocent statement. What was his "innocent statement"? I should add that I hadn't seen your post before his I want him to explain his comment Edited December 5, 2018 by EastSideJambo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bridge of Djoum Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 I see deflection by victim card. How very tiresome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamboAl Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 34 minutes ago, EastSideJambo said: What was his "innocent statement"? I should add that I hadn't seen your post before his I want him to explain his comment I'm sure he will explain after you answer the question but I caution everyone not to hold his/her breath. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastSideJambo Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 Just now, JamboAl said: I'm sure he will explain after you answer the question but I caution everyone not to hold his/her breath. I think he should explain his comment. Sooner rather than later preferably No victim card here. Just looking for an explanation Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bridge of Djoum Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 (edited) I'm gonna hazard at.. Someone says ''pitiful''. Another poster turns that into ''pity the fool'', a classic by Mr T. Someone gets offended. And this game of, ''nah, I'm not saying what I meant until he does'' is ****** juvenile. Edited December 5, 2018 by Bridge of Djoum Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maple Leaf Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 2 hours ago, Glib and Shameless Crier said: Calm down Mr T. 2 hours ago, EastSideJambo said: What does that mean? 2 hours ago, EastSideJambo said: He needs to explain his last remark Quote from Google: "Although his role in Rocky III was originally intended as just a few lines, Mr. T was eventually cast as Clubber Lang, the primary antagonist. His catchphrase "I pity the fool!" comes from the film; when asked if he hates Rocky, Lang replies, "No, I don't hate Balboa, but I pity the fool." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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