Captain Sausage Posted November 17, 2018 Share Posted November 17, 2018 Just now, Samuel Camazzola said: If we lose tonight, we can still top the group if a victory over Israel betters Israel's win over us. Effectively tonight is pointless! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magicTs Posted November 17, 2018 Share Posted November 17, 2018 1 minute ago, Captain Sausage said: Aye, that’ll show him. Knocking in a penalty after doing nothing for 45 minutes against the mighty Albania. ? “disgrace” ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magicTs Posted November 17, 2018 Share Posted November 17, 2018 Just now, Captain Sausage said: Effectively tonight is pointless! Avoiding defeat actually means we can’t be relegated. ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Jambo Posted November 17, 2018 Share Posted November 17, 2018 3 minutes ago, Captain Sausage said: So, just to get this right (might’ve been covered above), but winning or drawing doesn’t make a difference tonight? As head to head is above goal difference in deciding league places, we will need to beat Israel as a draw would mean they beat us courtesy of the 2-1 win in Israel. Therefore a win or draw won’t make a difference. Either way, with the 3 points on Tuesday, we top the group. However, if we lose tonight, we are out no matter what.. Pretty sure both of these are wrong. If we get at least a point tonight, then a win against Israel guarantees us top spot. If we lose tonight then we could win on Tuesday and still not qualify as we'd all finish on the same points and could go out on goal difference. There is also the issue of relegation. Win tonight and no matter what happens on Tuesday we can't be relegated. 2 minutes ago, Bauld said: I think if we win by 2 or more goals a point will do in our next match? Even if we win by 2 or more goals we still need to win on Tuesday to top the group. It goes to head-to-head before goal difference and a draw would mean that our head-to-head against Israel will be one draw and one defeat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DETTY29 Posted November 17, 2018 Share Posted November 17, 2018 From BBC And beat Israel - Scotland win the group And draw or lose against Israel - Scotland finish second Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gigolo-Aunt Posted November 17, 2018 Share Posted November 17, 2018 Absolutely delighted for big Eck. Under some pressure this week. Fletcher has been brilliant and gas deserved his goal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Sausage Posted November 17, 2018 Share Posted November 17, 2018 3 minutes ago, DETTY29 said: From BBC And beat Israel - Scotland win the group And draw or lose against Israel - Scotland finish second ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
south morroccan Posted November 17, 2018 Share Posted November 17, 2018 Are we going to see thon Grezda fella get the Miko treatment? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chester copperpot Posted November 17, 2018 Share Posted November 17, 2018 15 minutes ago, jamboinglasgow said: One thing I reckon is MacGregor would do well playing in Germany (think RB Leipzig manager said he was a player who they liked but could not afford at his age.) You are right what you say, they do have a good set up. What has been crucial is do they use the talent they have. Think Brendon does want to use young players. Mikey Johnson is one they really rate. Saw a new name on the bench recently, Kerr McInroy, seems he is rated as well. Also dont be surprised if Dembele makes his debut before the end of the season as he turns 16 in February. When Rodgers started at Celtic he got rid of all the young players who wouldn't take a telling. Basically if they were really talented but ****ed about, he wanted them binned. It seems to have worked as they now have a conveyor belt of talent that are coming through who are committed to their profession. He felt there was too many players at the pro youth level who thought they had already made it. If you go to St Ninians in Kirkintilloch they have such a good set up. A bit like ours but the pro youth players are there an hour before school and an hour (at least) after school every day. They even have a nutritionist giving advice on what the kids have to eat. It's a pretty impressive set up tbh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VALDOS Posted November 17, 2018 Share Posted November 17, 2018 That was a decent 45mins and looks like a bunch of guys playing for the manager. Some people will be hurting badly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinnybob72 Posted November 17, 2018 Share Posted November 17, 2018 The game is won unless we do something silly. As such we should be killing the game and making sure we don't pick up any injuries - yet we continue with hospital passes in tight areas. Albania are humpty - and a man down - keep ball is the name of the game and if we happen to score any more then that's a bonus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamboinglasgow Posted November 17, 2018 Share Posted November 17, 2018 1 minute ago, chester copperpot said: When Rodgers started at Celtic he got rid of all the young players who wouldn't take a telling. Basically if they were really talented but ****ed about, he wanted them binned. It seems to have worked as they now have a conveyor belt of talent that are coming through who are committed to their profession. He felt there was too many players at the pro youth level who thought they had already made it. If you go to St Ninians in Kirkintilloch they have such a good set up. A bit like ours but the pro youth players are there an hour before school and an hour (at least) after school every day. They even have a nutritionist giving advice on what the kids have to eat. It's a pretty impressive set up tbh. Hearts have brought in Balerno HS to do the same thing. So we are a few years behind them but certainly the club seem pretty happy and excited about what it will do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bindy Badgy Posted November 17, 2018 Share Posted November 17, 2018 1 minute ago, skinnybob72 said: The game is won unless we do something silly. As such we should be killing the game and making sure we don't pick up any injuries - yet we continue with hospital passes in tight areas. Albania are humpty - and a man down - keep ball is the name of the game and if we happen to score any more then that's a bonus. Make sure Paterson doesn't pick up another booking as well. I'd be tempted to sub him if we get a 3rd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riddley Walker Posted November 17, 2018 Share Posted November 17, 2018 What a ****ing difference playing 4 4 2 and without McGinn and McDonald in the middle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iantjambo Posted November 17, 2018 Share Posted November 17, 2018 Shree Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Beni of Gorgie Posted November 17, 2018 Share Posted November 17, 2018 Avoided relegation. Well done. You have to question how bad Albania are Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crete Posted November 17, 2018 Share Posted November 17, 2018 With a score like this the match on Wednesday might be a sell out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Slim Stylee Posted November 17, 2018 Share Posted November 17, 2018 Can't believe I'm quite enjoying a Scotland game. Albania are shocking though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FWJ Posted November 17, 2018 Share Posted November 17, 2018 2 minutes ago, Crete said: With a score like this the match on Wednesday might be a sell out. Tuesday Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iantjambo Posted November 17, 2018 Share Posted November 17, 2018 (edited) EDIT: Or not Edited November 17, 2018 by iantjambo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samuel Camazzola Posted November 17, 2018 Share Posted November 17, 2018 That was some build up and deserved a goal for the way it was worked. Unfortunate that Bates didn't have awareness of his positioning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Jambo Posted November 17, 2018 Share Posted November 17, 2018 4 minutes ago, Big Slim Stylee said: Can't believe I'm quite enjoying a Scotland game. Albania are shocking though. I really enjoyed the first game against Albania. Thought we played well in that game and then it fell apart against Israel, so trying not to get too excited. But winning comfortably away from home isn't really something we are used to. Looking forward to going along on Tuesday. Can't imagine it will be close to a sell out, but this scoreline might add 5-10k to the crowd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Салатные палочки Posted November 17, 2018 Share Posted November 17, 2018 That's a superb goal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iantjambo Posted November 17, 2018 Share Posted November 17, 2018 Now it’s 4-0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamboinglasgow Posted November 17, 2018 Share Posted November 17, 2018 I think I might need a minute after that goal. Every part was amazing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samuel Camazzola Posted November 17, 2018 Share Posted November 17, 2018 Forrest has a reason to get his boaby out this time. ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shanks said no Posted November 17, 2018 Share Posted November 17, 2018 Surprising turn of events Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudi5kaceldream1ng Posted November 17, 2018 Share Posted November 17, 2018 I see scotland are playing more attacking. Stick to this please none of this negative defensive stuff-our attacking players in midfield are quality. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magicTs Posted November 17, 2018 Share Posted November 17, 2018 Great result for Scottish football. Win on Tuesday which I'm positive we will do then something to look forward to with the play offs against beatable teams. Good stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bauld Posted November 17, 2018 Share Posted November 17, 2018 2 minutes ago, Rudi5kaceldream1ng said: I see scotland are playing more attacking. Stick to this please none of this negative defensive stuff-our attacking players in midfield are quality. Aye and we'll end up getting sliced open by a postman, played in by the local farmer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwidoug Posted November 17, 2018 Share Posted November 17, 2018 This is great. The 9 players who chose to stay away can get stuffed. Get the 3 Hearts players back when they're fit and we'll beat the world. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fabienleclerq Posted November 17, 2018 Share Posted November 17, 2018 I wouldn't get too carried away, Albania are shocking and we've had about ten years worth of good luck considering its Scotland playing. I don't think Israel are that good either tbh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magicTs Posted November 17, 2018 Share Posted November 17, 2018 On 16/11/2018 at 09:35, EastSideJambo said: McLeish could be in shit soup come next mid week as I don't see Scotland winning either of these 2 games Big result for McLeish. He has his detractors and ironically some amongst the Hearts support who decry him as a loser fail to recognise he's won 21 trophies as a player and manager whilst at the same time believing Levein to be a winner.......that's fitba eh, couldn't make it up!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iantjambo Posted November 17, 2018 Share Posted November 17, 2018 Credit to McLeish where it’s due. This is the best we’ve played in ages. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zico Posted November 17, 2018 Share Posted November 17, 2018 8 minutes ago, Salad Fingers said: That's a superb goal. The pass from Christie was outstanding. As was the rest of the move. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jock _turd Posted November 17, 2018 Share Posted November 17, 2018 To be honest we are leading four zip BUT that is how it should be they are down to ten for the majority of the game and .... they are total gash I am totally underwhelmed !!!!!!!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jambopilms Posted November 17, 2018 Share Posted November 17, 2018 Shouldn’t change a winning team Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ethan14 Posted November 17, 2018 Share Posted November 17, 2018 2 minutes ago, Barack said: Changes nothing for me, personally. Still don't want McLeish anywhere near us. Neither do I but he is so you support the team Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckydug Posted November 17, 2018 Share Posted November 17, 2018 4 minutes ago, jock _turd said: To be honest we are leading four zip BUT that is how it should be they are down to ten for the majority of the game and .... they are total gash I am totally underwhelmed !!!!!!!!!!!! Not just underwhelmed but also disappointed.? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VALDOS Posted November 17, 2018 Share Posted November 17, 2018 3 minutes ago, ethan14 said: Neither do I but he is so you support the team This. If McLeish wins 5 in a row some fans will be raging, rather than support him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jock _turd Posted November 17, 2018 Share Posted November 17, 2018 Are the BBC's match stats anywhere near accurate ? If they are it tell you all you need to know any international side with the states that Albania have would not be losing 4 zip to Scotland... they must be wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Jambo Posted November 17, 2018 Share Posted November 17, 2018 12 minutes ago, iantjambo said: Credit to McLeish where it’s due. This is the best we’ve played in ages. Some credit to the manager when you win 4-0 away. But worth rememebring that this isn't close to the team or probably formation we would have played if McLesh had his first choices available. We would probably have had the continuing issue of a 5-4-1 with Tierney and Robertson shoehorned into the same team. Same could be said of the first game against Albania when Naismith only joined the squad because of injury. Maybe better to be lucky than good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jock _turd Posted November 17, 2018 Share Posted November 17, 2018 14 minutes ago, luckydug said: Not just underwhelmed but also disappointed.? Not disappointed at all but you must be realistic they are a very poor team and we should be gubbing them with ease. My worry as always with Scotland is that we have now suddenly become some sort of great international football team . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boab Posted November 17, 2018 Share Posted November 17, 2018 Well done, Scotland. I could put a team together that would beat Albania but, good, we move on ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iantjambo Posted November 17, 2018 Share Posted November 17, 2018 You can only beat what’s in front of you. Great result and hopefully a big confidence boost. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
micole Posted November 17, 2018 Share Posted November 17, 2018 3 minutes ago, Boab said: Well done, Scotland. I could put a team together that would beat Albania but, good, we move on ! You can only beat what's put in front of you, as you say we move on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudi5kaceldream1ng Posted November 17, 2018 Share Posted November 17, 2018 4 minutes ago, jock _turd said: Not disappointed at all but you must be realistic they are a very poor team and we should be gubbing them with ease. My worry as always with Scotland is that we have now suddenly become some sort of great international football team . They won 4-0 away from home to a team that played at Euro 2016,get over it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ministry MK2 Posted November 17, 2018 Share Posted November 17, 2018 5 minutes ago, jock _turd said: Not disappointed at all but you must be realistic they are a very poor team and we should be gubbing them with ease. My worry as always with Scotland is that we have now suddenly become some sort of great international football team . NOBODY is saying Scotland are a great international team. People are just enjoying Scotland picking up a rare away win in a competitve game. There will defo be some on here hurting after that result and no doubt trying to play it down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riddley Walker Posted November 17, 2018 Share Posted November 17, 2018 What a ****ing difference with the correct formation and midfield. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ministry MK2 Posted November 17, 2018 Share Posted November 17, 2018 It’s almost as if playing a 3-5-2 purely to accomadate Kieran Tierney was holding us back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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