SupaJT Posted March 10, 2018 Share Posted March 10, 2018 They will beat us some of the time, we will beat them more often. Can one of the stattos out there confirm how many times we've finished above them in the league, and how many times they've finished above us? With us being in the Premier league and them in the first division the past few seasons even recent overall finishing spots have heavily favoured Hearts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hearts Heritage Posted March 10, 2018 Share Posted March 10, 2018 From 1893-94 Excluding Wartime League Hearts 71 Hibs 46 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hearts Heritage Posted March 10, 2018 Share Posted March 10, 2018 Since we came back up in 1983-84 Hearts 25 Hibs 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hearts Heritage Posted March 10, 2018 Share Posted March 10, 2018 Last 20 Hearts 14 Hibs 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EH11 Posted March 10, 2018 Share Posted March 10, 2018 41 minutes ago, 12august1893 said: Last 20 Hearts 14 Hibs 6 But hold on, according to that wee melted jobby face Mcginn post match, you need to be 80 or 90 yrs old to have lived through a period of Hearts domination! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manaliveits105 Posted March 10, 2018 Share Posted March 10, 2018 stick to the banjo ya thick wee tramp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBigO Posted March 10, 2018 Share Posted March 10, 2018 Form and class. They're at an almost all time high at the moment. Us having a great period of time wouldn't be happy with 4th. Their squad will fall apart, Lennon will leave or implode, they'll go back to how they've always been. Let's not forget that even those figures are askew as the season we both went down, we actually gained more points than them. The couple of seasons before they went down, they were lucky to stay up too, only Griffiths really saving them. This isn't sour grapes, it's the way it is. We've ben shite against them for a few years now, but let's remember this is the first season they'll finish above us (on points gained for quite a number of years). We'll be back. Hurts just now, but we'll be back. And we won't judge our success solely on the derby - it'll go back to being a nice wee footnote to our season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red Posted March 10, 2018 Share Posted March 10, 2018 Hibs often have 1-2 years where there better then on par, let them have their fun. Last time was probably Latapy era and before that probably the famous five! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
It should have been ten Posted March 10, 2018 Share Posted March 10, 2018 1 hour ago, TheBigO said: Form and class. They're at an almost all time high at the moment. Us having a great period of time wouldn't be happy with 4th. Their squad will fall apart, Lennon will leave or implode, they'll go back to how they've always been. Let's not forget that even those figures are askew as the season we both went down, we actually gained more points than them. The couple of seasons before they went down, they were lucky to stay up too, only Griffiths really saving them. This isn't sour grapes, it's the way it is. We've ben shite against them for a few years now, but let's remember this is the first season they'll finish above us (on points gained for quite a number of years). We'll be back. Hurts just now, but we'll be back. And we won't judge our success solely on the derby - it'll go back to being a nice wee footnote to our season. This is exactly how I see it too. As soon as Rodgers goes and Celtic drop their drawers, Lennon will be away and Hibs will not see him for dust. To be fair I think he'd jump ship at the first decent opportunity to manage elsewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted March 10, 2018 Share Posted March 10, 2018 I looked this up the other week 2 hours ago, 12august1893 said: From 1893-94 Excluding Wartime League Hearts 71 Hibs 46 I was surprised how well they have done Seemed to mostly do it in good runs eg late 1940s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davemclaren Posted March 10, 2018 Share Posted March 10, 2018 15 minutes ago, red said: Hibs often have 1-2 years where there better then on par, let them have their fun. Last time was probably Latapy era and before that probably the famous five! The late 60s and all of the 70s. ??♂️ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted March 10, 2018 Share Posted March 10, 2018 1 hour ago, red said: Hibs often have 1-2 years where there better then on par, let them have their fun. Last time was probably Latapy era and before that probably the famous five! The time before Latapy etc was when they had Steve Archibald on massive wages, dirty cheats ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted March 10, 2018 Share Posted March 10, 2018 1 hour ago, It should have been ten said: This is exactly how I see it too. As soon as Rodgers goes and Celtic drop their drawers, Lennon will be away and Hibs will not see him for dust. To be fair I think he'd jump ship at the first decent opportunity to manage elsewhere. They will be happy with that though, half n half scarves and all that. Even more players on loan from their big cousins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
It should have been ten Posted March 10, 2018 Share Posted March 10, 2018 2 minutes ago, Pasquale for King said: They will be happy with that though, half n half scarves and all that. Even more players on loan from their big cousins. Right enough, creepy pair of weirdo clubs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted March 10, 2018 Share Posted March 10, 2018 12 minutes ago, It should have been ten said: Right enough, creepy pair of weirdo clubs. Kissing cousins ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andi17 Posted March 10, 2018 Share Posted March 10, 2018 Can anybody tell me what the score is now for derbies won at fester are we still ahead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
It should have been ten Posted March 10, 2018 Share Posted March 10, 2018 28 minutes ago, Pasquale for King said: Kissing cousins ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hearts Heritage Posted March 10, 2018 Share Posted March 10, 2018 season best1893-94 Hearts 1894-95 Hearts 1895-96 Hibs 1896-97 Hearts 1897-98 Hibs1898-99 Hearts 1899-00 Hibs 1900-01 Hibs1901-02 Hearts 1902-03 Hibs1903-04 Hearts 1904-05 Hibs1905-06 Hearts 1906-07 Hearts 1907-08 Hibs 1908-09 Hibs 1909-10 Hibs 1910-11 Hibs1911-12 Hearts 1912-13 Hearts 1913-14 Hearts 1914-15 Hearts 1915-16 Hearts 1916-17 Hearts 1917-18 Hearts 1918-19 Hearts 1919-20 Hearts 1920-21 Hearts 1921-22 Hibs 1922-23 Hibs 1923-24 Hibs 1924-25 Hibs1925-26 Hearts 1926-27 Hibs1927-28 Hearts 1928-29 Hearts 1929-30 Hearts 1930-31 Hearts 1931-32 Hearts 1932-33 Hearts 1933-34 Hearts 1934-35 Hearts 1935-36 Hearts 1936-37 Hearts 1937-38 Hearts 1938-39 Hearts 1946-47 Hibs 1947-48 Hibs 1948-49 Hibs 1949-50 Hibs 1950-51 Hibs 1951-52 Hibs 1952-53 Hibs1953-54 Hearts 1954-55 Hearts 1955-56 Hearts 1956-57 Hearts 1957-58 Hearts 1958-59 Hearts 1959-60 Hearts 1960-61 Hearts 1961-62 Hearts 1962-63 Hearts 1963-64 Hearts 1964-65 Hearts 1965-66 Hibs 1966-67 Hibs 1967-68 Hibs1968-69 Hearts 1969-70 Hibs1970-71 Hearts 1971-72 Hibs 1972-73 Hibs 1973-74 Hibs 1974-75 Hibs 1975-76 Hibs 1976-77 Hibs 1977-78 Hibs 1978-79 Hibs 1979-80 Hibs1980-81 Hearts 1981-82 Hibs 1982-83 Hibs1983-84 Hearts 1984-85 Hearts 1985-86 Hearts 1986-87 Hearts 1987-88 Hearts 1988-89 Hibs1989-90 Hearts 1990-91 Hearts 1991-92 Hearts 1992-93 Hearts 1993-94 Hibs 1994-95 Hibs1995-96 Hearts 1996-97 Hearts 1997-98 Hearts 1998-99 Hearts 1999-00 Hearts 2000-01 Hibs2001-02 Hearts 2002-03 Hearts 2003-04 Hearts 2004-05 Hibs2005-06 Hearts 2006-07 Hearts 2007-08 Hibs2008-09 Hearts 2009-10 Hibs2010-11 Hearts 2011-12 Hearts 2012-13 Hibs 2013-14 Hibs2014-15 Hearts 2015-16 Hearts 2016-17 Hearts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Beni of Gorgie Posted March 10, 2018 Share Posted March 10, 2018 No run of 3 for them since 1980. Say no more Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DH1986 Posted March 10, 2018 Share Posted March 10, 2018 Even in 2013/14 we won more points them but due to 15 point handicap they finished above us. Their overall record is abysmal and they’re clinging on to the seventies like a Bay City Rollers fan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazbo Posted March 10, 2018 Share Posted March 10, 2018 2 hours ago, 12august1893 said: season best1893-94 Hearts 1894-95 Hearts 1895-96 Hibs 1896-97 Hearts 1897-98 Hibs1898-99 Hearts 1899-00 Hibs 1900-01 Hibs1901-02 Hearts 1902-03 Hibs1903-04 Hearts 1904-05 Hibs1905-06 Hearts 1906-07 Hearts 1907-08 Hibs 1908-09 Hibs 1909-10 Hibs 1910-11 Hibs1911-12 Hearts 1912-13 Hearts 1913-14 Hearts 1914-15 Hearts 1915-16 Hearts 1916-17 Hearts 1917-18 Hearts 1918-19 Hearts 1919-20 Hearts 1920-21 Hearts 1921-22 Hibs 1922-23 Hibs 1923-24 Hibs 1924-25 Hibs1925-26 Hearts 1926-27 Hibs1927-28 Hearts 1928-29 Hearts 1929-30 Hearts 1930-31 Hearts 1931-32 Hearts 1932-33 Hearts 1933-34 Hearts 1934-35 Hearts 1935-36 Hearts 1936-37 Hearts 1937-38 Hearts 1938-39 Hearts 1946-47 Hibs 1947-48 Hibs 1948-49 Hibs 1949-50 Hibs 1950-51 Hibs 1951-52 Hibs 1952-53 Hibs1953-54 Hearts 1954-55 Hearts 1955-56 Hearts 1956-57 Hearts 1957-58 Hearts 1958-59 Hearts 1959-60 Hearts 1960-61 Hearts 1961-62 Hearts 1962-63 Hearts 1963-64 Hearts 1964-65 Hearts 1965-66 Hibs 1966-67 Hibs 1967-68 Hibs1968-69 Hearts 1969-70 Hibs1970-71 Hearts 1971-72 Hibs 1972-73 Hibs 1973-74 Hibs 1974-75 Hibs 1975-76 Hibs 1976-77 Hibs 1977-78 Hibs 1978-79 Hibs 1979-80 Hibs1980-81 Hearts 1981-82 Hibs 1982-83 Hibs1983-84 Hearts 1984-85 Hearts 1985-86 Hearts 1986-87 Hearts 1987-88 Hearts 1988-89 Hibs1989-90 Hearts 1990-91 Hearts 1991-92 Hearts 1992-93 Hearts 1993-94 Hibs 1994-95 Hibs1995-96 Hearts 1996-97 Hearts 1997-98 Hearts 1998-99 Hearts 1999-00 Hearts 2000-01 Hibs2001-02 Hearts 2002-03 Hearts 2003-04 Hearts 2004-05 Hibs2005-06 Hearts 2006-07 Hearts 2007-08 Hibs2008-09 Hearts 2009-10 Hibs2010-11 Hearts 2011-12 Hearts 2012-13 Hibs 2013-14 Hibs2014-15 Hearts 2015-16 Hearts 2016-17 Hearts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambos_1874 Posted March 10, 2018 Share Posted March 10, 2018 The simple fact of the matter is that Hearts are typically dominant in terms of league placement and head-to-head results against Hibs. Even though there will inevitably be cycles where they are slightly superior, they are generally reasonably brief and they are not overwhelmingly dominant, as we tend to be. Although the loss yesterday is hard to take it doesn't bother me too much. We are still getting our house in order in terms of finances and the long-term project of improving the stadium, bringing through young players etc. I'll suffer a few seasons of mid-table mediocrity as well as being on the receiving end of some poor derby results as long as it sets the club up well for the next few decades; this is the point where we will again take our rightful place as Edinburgh's dominant team. They can have their few years in the sun but it won't last. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
busby1985 Posted March 10, 2018 Share Posted March 10, 2018 Honestly, these stats are cringe when we are so, so far behind them. I take zero comfort from knowing that we have a great history in the fixture because we’ve only won once in 4 years. We’ve scored two goals at Easter road since Budge came in and won none. The only stat that matters right now is the one that reads hibs 2 hearts 0. Our great history means nothing if we continue along this path. 1 win in 11 against them. We are using these stats to deflect away from how soft we have become against them and we are missing the signs that we are building the exact mentality that hibs used to have. Team full of loan signings, season after season rebuilds, crowds failing, atmosphere dying, splits in the crowd and a fan base becoming disengaged with the club. This Hearts side has all the hall marks of Pat Fenlons Hibs and we don’t seem to be willing to accept what is staring us in the face. Should’ve been ten tho, am I right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smoked-Glass Posted March 11, 2018 Share Posted March 11, 2018 Don't forget to include 1999, 2016 and 2017. Being a league above them counts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neon Posted March 11, 2018 Share Posted March 11, 2018 2 hours ago, Smoked-Glass said: Don't forget to include 1999, 2016 and 2017. Being a league above them counts. Interestingly both times you mention when they came back up, they finished in a higher position - League still has a way to go not impossible to catch them but looking doubtful. Natural order next year please - see a few occasions where we finished the whole decade above them (Which for any grunts looking in you never have) :D, not really surprising stats - interesting though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smoked-Glass Posted March 11, 2018 Share Posted March 11, 2018 10 hours ago, neonjambo said: Interestingly both times you mention when they came back up, they finished in a higher position - League still has a way to go not impossible to catch them but looking doubtful. Natural order next year please - see a few occasions where we finished the whole decade above them (Which for any grunts looking in you never have) :D, not really surprising stats - interesting though. We were 3rd in 2000 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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