kimosavi Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 Take it we are done in the transfer market? CL said the best of the crop off free agents get snapped up 2/3 days after the window shuts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i8hibsh Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 Genuinely believe that we are borderline with wholesale changes now and that is a road I never want to go down again. Think we have a pretty decent pot to piss with now. Are we the completed article? Hell no, we have some hard work to do over the summer but these things must be gradual as continuity is vital. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Busby8 Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 If we have any aspirations at all then of winning the Cup then he better get his finger out. There is not a cats chance in hell that Naismith and Lafferty are both going to remain either fit or suspension free through a full cup campaign. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 5 minutes ago, Busby8 said: If we have any aspirations at all then of winning the Cup then he better get his finger out. There is not a cats chance in hell that Naismith and Lafferty are both going to remain either fit or suspension free through a full cup campaign. . Berra and Souttar at risk now from suspension. Booked against Hibs. 2 bookings = 1 match ban. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnking123 Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 Striking options are shocking. We taking a massive gamble with only one striker. Still not calling naismith a striker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kimosavi Posted February 5, 2018 Author Share Posted February 5, 2018 7 minutes ago, Busby8 said: If we have any aspirations at all then of winning the Cup then he better get his finger out. There is not a cats chance in hell that Naismith and Lafferty are both going to remain either fit or suspension free through a full cup campaign. . Exactly, seems we missed the chance in January and thats us set till summer now Injuries and suspensions and we are very light indeed especially up top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Busby8 Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 Just now, Mikey1874 said: Berra and Souttar at risk now from suspension. Booked against Hibs. 2 bookings = 1 match ban. Would like another CH too, but not the priority for me. We have Hughes and Smith who can both play there if either Berra or Souttar are out. Thought Smith was outstanding playing that role against racellic. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HMFC THE TEAM FOR ME Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 Sometimes I really don’t understand CL whatsoever. We have Conor Sammon, at Partick thistle paying his whole wage.. why not recall him for at least back up. Let Dario Zannata go back on loan he in my opinion is far more ready than Irving, Macdonald, and the more inexperienced players Dario, could be important from the bench & again back up Calum Morrison another player I would of liked to see recalled. Instead CL loans everyone of our strikers out? or releases them and as I said a couple weeks ago priority should of been to replace Isma & stockton ridiculous descion making and seriously could cost us at some stage this season when Lafferty & Naismith are injured who comes in if they are injured? feel this slightly tarnishes some of the good business done in this window. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mollo Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 Did he not say the BEST get snapped up in 2/3 days and everyone else then fights over the rest? As uninspiring as it may seem, perhaps we are still fighting for someone. I'd like to hope there is a Zeefuik type in there somewhere that we have at least fought for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greedy_Jambo Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 Rory Currie is a striker. I'd imagine he'll be getting some more game time soon. The fact that Levein didn't recall Sammon and let Zannata go back on loan tells me he's going to get someone else in. Hopefully he didn't make those decisions before his deal for a striker fell through though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Busby8 Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 5 minutes ago, HMFC THE TEAM FOR ME said: Sometimes I really don’t understand CL whatsoever. We have Conor Sammon, at Partick thistle paying his whole wage.. why not recall him for at least back up. Let Dario Zannata go back on loan he in my opinion is far more ready than Irving, Macdonald, and the more inexperienced players Dario, could be important from the bench & again back up Calum Morrison another player I would of liked to see recalled. Instead CL loans everyone of our strikers out? or releases them and as I said a couple weeks ago priority should of been to replace Isma & stockton ridiculous descion making and seriously could cost us at some stage this season when Lafferty & Naismith are injured who comes in if they are injured? feel this slightly tarnishes some of the good business done in this window. The Fish is cup tied now anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazzas right boot Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 11 minutes ago, HMFC THE TEAM FOR ME said: Sometimes I really don’t understand CL whatsoever. We have Conor Sammon, at Partick thistle paying his whole wage.. why not recall him for at least back up. Let Dario Zannata go back on loan he in my opinion is far more ready than Irving, Macdonald, and the more inexperienced players Dario, could be important from the bench & again back up Calum Morrison another player I would of liked to see recalled. Instead CL loans everyone of our strikers out? or releases them and as I said a couple weeks ago priority should of been to replace Isma & stockton ridiculous descion making and seriously could cost us at some stage this season when Lafferty & Naismith are injured who comes in if they are injured? feel this slightly tarnishes some of the good business done in this window. It's to do with the player as well tho. Sammon, given the abuse he taken, he probably wants to stay at Patrick. Be cup tied today. Zannata, likley had a choice, be a bench warmer or play regularly. Likley the club and himself thought it was best if he play regularly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister Dee Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 How do you k ow we are paying Damon’s whole wage? We may have agreed a season long loan, which is why he hasn’t been recalled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Busby8 Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 1 minute ago, Greedy_Jambo said: Rory Currie is a striker. I'd imagine he'll be getting some more game time soon. The fact that Levein didn't recall Sammon and let Zannata go back on loan tells me he's going to get someone else in though. Hopefully he didn't make those decisions before his deal for a striker fell through though. Currie out injured fro the season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo92 Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 1 minute ago, HMFC THE TEAM FOR ME said: Sometimes I really don’t understand CL whatsoever. We have Conor Sammon, at Partick thistle paying his whole wage.. why not recall him for at least back up. Let Dario Zannata go back on loan he in my opinion is far more ready than Irving, Macdonald, and the more inexperienced players Dario, could be important from the bench & again back up Calum Morrison another player I would of liked to see recalled. Instead CL loans everyone of our strikers out? or releases them and as I said a couple weeks ago priority should of been to replace Isma & stockton ridiculous descion making and seriously could cost us at some stage this season when Lafferty & Naismith are injured who comes in if they are injured? feel this slightly tarnishes some of the good business done in this window. This season is a total work in progress, look where we were when the first game kicked off, Levein has steadied the ship and very quickly got things moving forward again. All this going on whilst we have built big brand new shiny stand. Sammon face didn't fit at Hearts, he is playing at Partick where he has next to no pressure, its completely different to playing for Hearts. If we brought him back it would be 3 games without a goal before the fans would be baying for his blood. I agree we should bring him back as a back up but can see the reasons for him not coming back, if we want him off our wage bill then a good season at Partick will help our chances in the summer, there also may be an agreement in the loan deal that there is no recall clause. With the youngsters, feel that Dario and Calum will gain alot more game time out on loan which will be better for development in the long run than a the odd game here and there, we also have a lot of young boys in the first team, so finding the balance is important. Best solution would be to find a striker in the free market area and give him 5 month contract to prove himself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greedy_Jambo Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 1 minute ago, Busby8 said: Currie out injured fro the season Jeez, really? We really are screwed then lol I'd imagine there's even more chance of getting a free agent in now at least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Busby8 Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 1 minute ago, Greedy_Jambo said: Jeez, really? We really are screwed then lol I'd imagine there's even more chance of getting a free agent in now at least. https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hearts/hearts-rory-currie-out-for-the-rest-of-the-season-1-4626521 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HMFC THE TEAM FOR ME Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 5 minutes ago, Jambo92 said: This season is a total work in progress, look where we were when the first game kicked off, Levein has steadied the ship and very quickly got things moving forward again. All this going on whilst we have built big brand new shiny stand. Sammon face didn't fit at Hearts, he is playing at Partick where he has next to no pressure, its completely different to playing for Hearts. If we brought him back it would be 3 games without a goal before the fans would be baying for his blood. I agree we should bring him back as a back up but can see the reasons for him not coming back, if we want him off our wage bill then a good season at Partick will help our chances in the summer, there also may be an agreement in the loan deal that there is no recall clause. With the youngsters, feel that Dario and Calum will gain alot more game time out on loan which will be better for development in the long run than a the odd game here and there, we also have a lot of young boys in the first team, so finding the balance is important. Best solution would be to find a striker in the free market area and give him 5 month contract to prove himself. Yeah I agree with all of your points however I feel with us being so short for back up it may be better to sacrifice 5 months of either Dario, or Calum’s development to stay on the bench for back up never know laff or Naismith May get injured and then they have a good run of games in the SPL. Because what are we going to do if say Naismith gets injured and Lafferty is suspended.. no proven striker in the squad very concerning I fear also the best of the free agents are now gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Des Lynam Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 23 minutes ago, HMFC THE TEAM FOR ME said: Sometimes I really don’t understand CL whatsoever. We have Conor Sammon, at Partick thistle paying his whole wage.. why not recall him for at least back up. Let Dario Zannata go back on loan he in my opinion is far more ready than Irving, Macdonald, and the more inexperienced players Dario, could be important from the bench & again back up Calum Morrison another player I would of liked to see recalled. Instead CL loans everyone of our strikers out? or releases them and as I said a couple weeks ago priority should of been to replace Isma & stockton ridiculous descion making and seriously could cost us at some stage this season when Lafferty & Naismith are injured who comes in if they are injured? feel this slightly tarnishes some of the good business done in this window. Because the fans would boo him. There was grumbling in the stands when Bauben came on at the weekend. Fantastic support! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Boy Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 Put a bloody question mark after a thread title like that please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gav M Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 there is a finite number of decent strikers that may be in our price range and no doubt there are a number of clubs looking at them. it may take a few days or so for us to make headway with the targets we are after. yes the best ones go quickly, usually to clubs who can offer a lot morebthan we can, it's the next traunch that we will be looking at and there will be fierce competition. the quote said that the best go within 2-3 days but was also followed up with that we were hopefull of getting someone in within the next week or so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PapaShango Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 I would rather we didn’t just sign someone for the sake of it. Levein obviously doesn’t think anyone available is suitable. Have we any youngsters that can step up if needed? I noticed Keena scored at the weekend. Have we options to recall our loan players in an emergency? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GorgieRules22 Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 We need a striker in asap for me. We have Lafferty who is underperforming then nobody else so it's as clear as day we need one in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bairdy Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 20 minutes ago, Ryder said: Put a bloody question mark after a thread title like that please. Snap ! Thought we'd signed somebody ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Funtime Jambo Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 32 minutes ago, Busby8 said: https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hearts/hearts-rory-currie-out-for-the-rest-of-the-season-1-4626521 Its a pity the lad Curries out for the rest of the season as Lafferty and him would have been decent together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spencer Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 43 minutes ago, Busby8 said: Currie out injured fro the season Real pity for Currie. He can shift which would make him stick out like a whippets baws in amongst the assortment we have assembled Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
August Landmesser Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 If we continue to keep clean sheets, we only need to score three more goals to win the cup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Funtime Jambo Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 Just now, Spencer said: Real pity for Currie. He can shift which would make him stick out like a whippets baws in amongst the assortment we have assembled Exactly what i was thinking. Whippets baws Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soonbe110 Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 58 minutes ago, HMFC THE TEAM FOR ME said: Sometimes I really don’t understand CL whatsoever. We have Conor Sammon, at Partick thistle paying his whole wage.. why not recall him for at least back up. Let Dario Zannata go back on loan he in my opinion is far more ready than Irving, Macdonald, and the more inexperienced players Dario, could be important from the bench & again back up Calum Morrison another player I would of liked to see recalled. Instead CL loans everyone of our strikers out? or releases them and as I said a couple weeks ago priority should of been to replace Isma & stockton ridiculous descion making and seriously could cost us at some stage this season when Lafferty & Naismith are injured who comes in if they are injured? feel this slightly tarnishes some of the good business done in this window. Thistle are paying some of Sammon wages. £700 per week i believe. We need someone up front that Lafferty and/or Naismith can play off. None of the others you mention are out and out strikers so no point in asking youngsters to play out of position. We would all just start moaning at them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soonbe110 Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 56 minutes ago, Mister Dee said: How do you k ow we are paying Damon’s whole wage? We may have agreed a season long loan, which is why he hasn’t been recalled. It was a season long loan and they are making a contribution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soonbe110 Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 50 minutes ago, HMFC THE TEAM FOR ME said: Yeah I agree with all of your points however I feel with us being so short for back up it may be better to sacrifice 5 months of either Dario, or Calum’s development to stay on the bench for back up never know laff or Naismith May get injured and then they have a good run of games in the SPL. Because what are we going to do if say Naismith gets injured and Lafferty is suspended.. no proven striker in the squad very concerning I fear also the best of the free agents are now gone. Morrison is a winger and is currently behind Skinny, Danny, McDonald and Zanatta. So he is fifth choice wide player at best at the moment. Great potential but Brechin for four months is better for him in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heartsfc_fan Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 Any idea why we recalled Dario Zanatta for one game then sent him out again? Did we just do that due to Lafferty being out and him as backup? What happens if Lafferty gets injured/suspended again? Are we able to recall Dario? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hereford_hearts Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 Just now, heartsfc_fan said: Any idea why we recalled Dario Zanatta for one game then sent him out again? Did we just do that due to Lafferty being out and him as backup? What happens if Lafferty gets injured/suspended again? Are we able to recall Dario? I think he was brought back to attend the winter training camp in Spain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbo-Jambo Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 CL knows we need another striker and was close to bringing one in during the window but it fell through. Fairly confident we will get one in pretty soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TurboT Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 I always think it's pot luck what type of player you get in January but strikers it's even more hit or miss. If they are any good why is their club letting them go? Ngoo, McCallum, Zeefuik, Dauda, - it always feels like a 50/50 chance of getting anyone decent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doogz Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 4 minutes ago, TurboT said: Ngoo, McCallum, Zeefuik, Dauda, - it always feels like a 50/50 chance of getting anyone decent. That looks more like a 25% success rate to me - unless you're judging it by weight ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randy Marsh Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 We really are desperately short up front. I just checked the weekend results to see how are loaned out players got on. I then noticed that Keena scored for Queens Park against Raith Rovers. That is another striker I didn't even know had been loaned out. We really do need to get someone else in till the summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hector Riva Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 Give the baw to Milinkovic. He knows where goal is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Absolute Scenes Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 1 hour ago, GorgieRules22 said: We need a striker in asap for me. We have Lafferty who is underperforming then nobody else so it's as clear as day we need one in. Sorry I do not agree at all Lafferty is one of the top goal scorers in the league He is definitely not underperforming. remember he was out for 3 big games for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selkirkhmfc1874 Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 Levein hopeful we'll have another striker signed before weekend , straight from horses mouth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamhammer Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 I think we’ve got one in the pipeline: just based on not recalling the fish and sending others out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GorgieRules22 Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 6 minutes ago, Absolute Scenes said: Sorry I do not agree at all Lafferty is one of the top goal scorers in the league He is definitely not underperforming. remember he was out for 3 big games for us. He was hopeless on Saturday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo83 Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 1 hour ago, Des Lynam said: Because the fans would boo him. There was grumbling in the stands when Bauben came on at the weekend. Fantastic support! Aye and it was explained 2 mins later when he somehow managed to batter the ball between two Hearts players and out for a throw in. It was quite something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo92 Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 Its about quality over quantity, years gone by we have had 2/3 players for a position who are average at best. Now we have a strike force of Naismith and Lafferty and not much in reserve, we're building a solid quality core of a team and will slowly but surely add quality in reserve. Patience is required. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott herbertson Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 6 minutes ago, Jambo92 said: Its about quality over quantity, years gone by we have had 2/3 players for a position who are average at best. Now we have a strike force of Naismith and Lafferty and not much in reserve, we're building a solid quality core of a team and will slowly but surely add quality in reserve. Patience is required. Damn! if only we had some.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
By the light Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 It’s worth remembering that getting players is bloody difficult! Given the club have been slated for bringing in average players it’s understandable we’ve found ourselves light. Hopefully the club will get something done but it’s not easy, especially in the January window. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soonbe110 Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 11 minutes ago, GorgieRules22 said: He was hopeless on Saturday. He never has been a lone target man. Needs someone to play off or with. Just a pity that Isma wanted to play on his own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJ93 Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 19 minutes ago, Selkirkhmfc1874 said: Levein hopeful we'll have another striker signed before weekend , straight from horses mouth For real? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Diez Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 Mr Levein knows what he’s doing. ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Beni of Gorgie Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 Lafferty is a bit flaky for me. Great player to have but its something different he offers every week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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