Japan Jambo Posted Monday at 16:47 Share Posted Monday at 16:47 2 hours ago, ToadKiller Dog said: Honest Bob turned up at the Conservatives friends of Israel fringe meating in a black hoodie with Hamas are terrorists written on it ,he stated he wants to put a star of david on show at every entry point into the UK . The guy is bonkers . who is honest Bob? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victorian Posted Monday at 16:47 Share Posted Monday at 16:47 (edited) JenReich is really going full pelt Trump now. Now he's raving about how migrant crime is being covered up. That the public deserve to know the truth. It's a bit of a tabloid newspaper type of inference based on the Home Office not collecting particular data of crime by nationality and ethnicity. He says the HO should be recording this data. Home Office not collecting defined data = it's all a big cover up. Whistle sounded - dogs start going radge. 1. Absence of information is not proof of information being concealed. A cover up. 2. It's only 3 months since a 14 year term Tory government left office. Why did he not work to get the Tory government led Home Office to begin recording this critical data? Grim, rancid, racist rhetoric. Edited Monday at 16:48 by Victorian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToadKiller Dog Posted Monday at 17:15 Share Posted Monday at 17:15 25 minutes ago, Japan Jambo said: who is honest Bob? Tory candidate for leader Robert Jenrick ,once he was a Cameron type now he is a trumpian type culture warrior mentalist . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cade Posted Monday at 18:04 Share Posted Monday at 18:04 1 hour ago, Victorian said: JenReich is really going full pelt Trump now. Now he's raving about how migrant crime is being covered up. That the public deserve to know the truth. It's a bit of a tabloid newspaper type of inference based on the Home Office not collecting particular data of crime by nationality and ethnicity. He says the HO should be recording this data. Home Office not collecting defined data = it's all a big cover up. Whistle sounded - dogs start going radge. 1. Absence of information is not proof of information being concealed. A cover up. 2. It's only 3 months since a 14 year term Tory government left office. Why did he not work to get the Tory government led Home Office to begin recording this critical data? Grim, rancid, racist rhetoric. ALL IMMIGRANTS ARE CRIMINALS!! but...there is zero evidence of that... THE DEEP STATE IS COVERING IT UP OPEN YOUR EYES SHEEPLE You can't win with these bams, there's always a fallback position for their daft wee conspiracies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victorian Posted Monday at 18:15 Share Posted Monday at 18:15 3 minutes ago, Cade said: ALL IMMIGRANTS ARE CRIMINALS!! but...there is zero evidence of that... THE DEEP STATE IS COVERING IT UP OPEN YOUR EYES SHEEPLE You can't win with these bams, there's always a fallback position for their daft wee conspiracies. It's a fairly brazen step out into the light from under a rock. Precisely the same type of stuff that has seen the rise of far right agitators throughout Europe. It's almost as if it's an admission that the UK must have a ludicrous, lying, racist, far right champion. Reform UK will take the gig if we don't. The UK political scene could fight off fascism by showing that it can never bring good and can never appeal to enough people anyway. This cretin wants to normalise it and have a contest to see who is best to represent it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cade Posted Monday at 18:29 Share Posted Monday at 18:29 The rich steal all the money then spend a bit of it on controlling the media in order to blame the lack of money on the poor/immigrants/global marxist conspiracies etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joondalupjambo Posted Monday at 20:48 Share Posted Monday at 20:48 That Badanick bird is a real daftie. Quotes a woman in her constituency who will be shutting down her cafe because she cannot pay minimum wage or maternity leave. No mention that the cafe might be located in a low footfall area, no mention of the cafes coffee might be rubbish, no mention that the cafe might be old and outdated, no mention that the cafe's food offerings might be poor and unappealing etc. Nah none of that just that being in business should mean success for the owner. These folk are bat s''t mental and not in the real world. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victorian Posted Monday at 20:54 Share Posted Monday at 20:54 3 minutes ago, joondalupjambo said: That Badanick bird is a real daftie. Quotes a woman in her constituency who will be shutting down her cafe because she cannot pay minimum wage or maternity leave. No mention that the cafe might be located in a low footfall area, no mention of the cafes coffee might be rubbish, no mention that the cafe might be old and outdated, no mention that the cafe's food offerings might be poor and unappealing etc. Nah none of that just that being in business should mean success for the owner. These folk are bat s''t mental and not in the real world. Let's cut to the heart of this utter lunacy. Maternity pay can be reclaimed from HMRC. If she's citing business viability issues, she's barking at the moon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victorian Posted Tuesday at 09:58 Share Posted Tuesday at 09:58 More JenReich insanity. Genuinely baffling. https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cp39q1ppk41o Tory leadership contender Robert Jenrick has defended his claim that British special forces are “killing rather than capturing terrorists”. The former immigration minister made the comment in a video promoting his bid to be the party's leader. The claims have prompted criticism from Conservative leadership rivals James Cleverly and Tom Tugendhat, who have both served in the Army, during their party’s annual conference. Tugendhat said the comments were “wrong” and showed a “misunderstanding of military operations and the law of armed conflict”. “I'm extremely concerned that such words should not be seen in any way to encourage people to take any action other than surrender to British forces when asked to do so,” Tugendhat said. Cleverly said Jenrick should justify his claims. “The British military always abide by international humanitarian law, the law of armed conflict,” Clevery said. He added: “Our military do not murder people.” In the video Jenrick made the claim, he called for the UK to leave the European Convention on Human Rights (ECHR). The ECHR is a treaty which sets out the rights and freedoms people are entitled to in countries that are signed up to it. The treaty is overseen by the European Court of Human Rights in Strasbourg, France. In the video, Jenrick said: “Our special forces are killing rather than capturing terrorists because our lawyers tell us that if they’re caught, the European court will set them free.” In an interview on BBC Radio 4’s Today programme, Jenrick was asked what evidence he had to back up his claims. He said: "The point I was making was one that our former defence secretary Ben Wallace has made, which is that our human rights apparatus including the ECHR is encroaching on the battlefield. "And it is impacting the decisions that our generals and military decision-makers are taking as to what kind of action is required in these difficult situations." Pressed on whether he knew special forces were killing rather than capturing terrorists, Mr Jenrick said: "As Ben Wallace has said in that interview, decision makers are being asked to make decisions which they might not ordinarily make, for example to call in a drone strike and take lethal action in that way." He added: "Of course I'm not going to elaborate on particular cases because these things, these cases are not things that any minister can speak about." In an article last year, Wallace - the former defence secretary - claimed human rights laws including the ECHR had become a serious risk to national security. He told the Telegraph: "When we have a threat to the UK, this lunacy of being unable to render people across borders or arrest people in countries whose police forces are unacceptable means that we are more often than not forced into taking lethal action than actually raiding and detaining." The role of the ECHR has long been a topic of intense debate within the Conservative Party. MPs on the right of the party have increasingly blamed the convention for enabling failed asylum seekers to challenge their removal from the UK. Jenrick and former home secretary Suella Braverman are among those who have called for the UK to withdraw from the treaty to avoid this. But other Tories oppose this. It has been a dividing line between the leadership candidates at the party's conference in Birmingham. On Monday, fellow leadership contender Kemi Badenoch warned party members that leaving the ECHR would not address "the root of the problem", saying it could result in Brexit-style "legal wrangling". She did not rule out leaving the treaty, but argued deporting more failed asylum seekers should be the priority. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lone Striker Posted Tuesday at 18:55 Share Posted Tuesday at 18:55 21 hours ago, joondalupjambo said: That Badanick bird is a real daftie. Quotes a woman in her constituency who will be shutting down her cafe because she cannot pay minimum wage or maternity leave. No mention that the cafe might be located in a low footfall area, no mention of the cafes coffee might be rubbish, no mention that the cafe might be old and outdated, no mention that the cafe's food offerings might be poor and unappealing etc. Nah none of that just that being in business should mean success for the owner. These folk are bat s''t mental and not in the real world. Indeed. You've nailed it perfectly. "A woman who owns a cafe in my constituency told me......" Must be true of all businesses then, so lets just scrap the minimum wage. Similar to Trump regurgitating the unsubstantiated nonsense that Shady Vance told him about Haitians eating people's pets in Springfield. - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i wish jj was my dad Posted Tuesday at 21:31 Share Posted Tuesday at 21:31 2 hours ago, Lone Striker said: Indeed. You've nailed it perfectly. "A woman who owns a cafe in my constituency told me......" Must be true of all businesses then, so lets just scrap the minimum wage. Similar to Trump regurgitating the unsubstantiated nonsense that Shady Vance told him about Haitians eating people's pets in Springfield. - Unfortunately, there are bots who get a huge stiffie about spooning this sort of shite to dafties who lap it up. It wouldn't surprise me if screechbots started agitating. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted Tuesday at 21:38 Share Posted Tuesday at 21:38 6 minutes ago, i wish jj was my dad said: Unfortunately, there are bots who get a huge stiffie about spooning this sort of shite to dafties who lap it up. It wouldn't surprise me if screechbots started agitating. Oh dear your ranting some shite the night . Loads of anger 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted Tuesday at 22:11 Share Posted Tuesday at 22:11 39 minutes ago, i wish jj was my dad said: Unfortunately, there are bots who get a huge stiffie about spooning this sort of shite to dafties who lap it up. It wouldn't surprise me if screechbots started agitating. Yeah Its all aimed at the members. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i wish jj was my dad Posted Tuesday at 22:30 Share Posted Tuesday at 22:30 10 minutes ago, Mikey1874 said: Yeah Its all aimed at the members. You don't need to be supportive of Labour to see what is happening. It was always coming. What does matter is if they can actually reverse the mess they inherited. I doubt it tbh, because they are too focused on placating the squealing winkers that believe any auld shite the daily mail and their screechbots feed them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted Tuesday at 22:42 Share Posted Tuesday at 22:42 10 minutes ago, i wish jj was my dad said: You don't need to be supportive of Labour to see what is happening. It was always coming. What does matter is if they can actually reverse the mess they inherited. I doubt it tbh, because they are too focused on placating the squealing winkers that believe any auld shite the daily mail and their screechbots feed them Looks like they'll need another election defeat currently. They are in a total, deluded mess. There's a clear pathway but it's about the centre ground not trying to be Reform. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i wish jj was my dad Posted Tuesday at 22:51 Share Posted Tuesday at 22:51 Just now, Mikey1874 said: Looks like they'll need another election defeat currently. They are in a total, deluded mess. There's a clear pathway but it's about the centre ground not trying to be Reform. They need to decide if they want to occupy the ground that attracts the sort of prick who lives on hate and division, which admittedly won them a lot of unexpected votes in 2019, or win the argument with the centre ground and where most UK voters generally are. The issue is that voters have been increasingly led by lies and scare stories inflated by online screechbots. I suspect that the penny is dropping for most though which is why the screeching is becoming increasingly more hysterical. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted Wednesday at 07:36 Share Posted Wednesday at 07:36 8 hours ago, i wish jj was my dad said: They need to decide if they want to occupy the ground that attracts the sort of prick who lives on hate and division, which admittedly won them a lot of unexpected votes in 2019, or win the argument with the centre ground and where most UK voters generally are. The issue is that voters have been increasingly led by lies and scare stories inflated by online screechbots. I suspect that the penny is dropping for most though which is why the screeching is becoming increasingly more hysterical. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Konrad von Carstein Posted Wednesday at 11:15 Share Posted Wednesday at 11:15 3 hours ago, JudyJudyJudy said: Well thought out and insightful post, as always Jimmy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted Wednesday at 12:03 Share Posted Wednesday at 12:03 (edited) In the batshit crazy contender competition we have a new one from Badenoch. Conservative Party members get worse marks at Universities. Edited Wednesday at 12:03 by Mikey1874 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Japan Jambo Posted Wednesday at 13:13 Share Posted Wednesday at 13:13 1 hour ago, Mikey1874 said: In the batshit crazy contender competition we have a new one from Badenoch. Conservative Party members get worse marks at Universities. She is nuts, Jenrich isn't much better, fingers crossed one of the other two get the nod. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sooperstar Posted Thursday at 06:03 Share Posted Thursday at 06:03 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XB52 Posted Thursday at 06:27 Share Posted Thursday at 06:27 24 minutes ago, Sooperstar said: Tory cancels interview with tory after 'honest mistake'😀😀 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victorian Posted Thursday at 07:17 Share Posted Thursday at 07:17 What difference would it make? Does anyone still think anything he says can be taken seriously and as something related to the truth? It would be lies and bullshit, with or without advance notice of the questions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cade Posted Thursday at 08:00 Share Posted Thursday at 08:00 1 hour ago, Sooperstar said: MISTAKE??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gundermann Posted Thursday at 08:12 Share Posted Thursday at 08:12 2 hours ago, Sooperstar said: Pillow talk between those two. What is it with journos and their fascination with Borish? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Japan Jambo Posted Thursday at 08:29 Share Posted Thursday at 08:29 16 minutes ago, Gundermann said: Pillow talk between those two. What is it with journos and their fascination with Borish? 🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lone Striker Posted Thursday at 09:49 Share Posted Thursday at 09:49 3 hours ago, Sooperstar said: 2 hours ago, Victorian said: What difference would it make? Does anyone still think anything he says can be taken seriously and as something related to the truth? It would be lies and bullshit, with or without advance notice of the questions. Can you just clarify ....... are you referring to Boris Johnson or Donald Trump ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulysses Posted Thursday at 13:17 Share Posted Thursday at 13:17 7 hours ago, Sooperstar said: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victorian Posted Friday at 15:14 Share Posted Friday at 15:14 Let's deceive the plebs that the country faces an existential dilemma that can only be settled by having a referendum. https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2024/oct/04/boris-johnson-calls-for-referendum-on-leaving-echr Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cade Posted Friday at 15:52 Share Posted Friday at 15:52 Boris is like a turd that won't flush Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victorian Posted Friday at 15:55 Share Posted Friday at 15:55 2 minutes ago, Cade said: Boris is like a turd that won't flush Nice little earner being an absolute ***** idolised by cuntkind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted Friday at 18:54 Share Posted Friday at 18:54 The English do this well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cade Posted Friday at 19:05 Share Posted Friday at 19:05 SKY tell Boris tae bolt after his team demands that an interview with Beth Rigby not be recorded on audio nor have a written transcription taken. Presumably because BoJo The clown doesn't like having lies he said read back to him at a later date. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the posh bit Posted Friday at 20:45 Share Posted Friday at 20:45 5 hours ago, Victorian said: Let's deceive the plebs that the country faces an existential dilemma that can only be settled by having a referendum. https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2024/oct/04/boris-johnson-calls-for-referendum-on-leaving-echr We would end up leaving. The stupid plebs would win. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victorian Posted Friday at 20:47 Share Posted Friday at 20:47 You would think that everyone might like to move on from this talking chimp. But naw. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victorian Posted Friday at 20:53 Share Posted Friday at 20:53 1 minute ago, the posh bit said: We would end up leaving. The stupid plebs would win. It would primarily act as another vehicle to gain money and position from. The architects of a Brexit repeat would barely give a Greyfriar's about the result. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the posh bit Posted Friday at 21:06 Share Posted Friday at 21:06 12 minutes ago, Victorian said: It would primarily act as another vehicle to gain money and position from. The architects of a Brexit repeat would barely give a Greyfriar's about the result. Yup, and the majority of those voting to leave would likely lose the most. Stupid ****ing plebs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victorian Posted Friday at 21:11 Share Posted Friday at 21:11 1 minute ago, the posh bit said: Yup, and the majority of those voting to leave would likely lose the most. Stupid ****ing plebs. Stupid perhaps or not. But perhaps just largely oblivious to the causes & effects. Just an innocent currency to be played with and exploited. It was ever so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roxy Hearts Posted Friday at 21:44 Share Posted Friday at 21:44 32 minutes ago, the posh bit said: Yup, and the majority of those voting to leave would likely lose the most. Stupid ****ing plebs. Scots, or so called Scots, want his ilk governing us rather than govern ourselves. Ridiculous! I voted leave, unfortunately, as I thought it would drive us more to independence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted 15 hours ago Share Posted 15 hours ago 12 hours ago, Roxy Hearts said: Scots, or so called Scots, want his ilk governing us rather than govern ourselves. Ridiculous! I voted leave, unfortunately, as I thought it would drive us more to independence. Haha and I voted remain . Because I wasn’t stupid and didn’t use it for a vehicle in the hope to break up the union . Even though I was still an Indy supporter then . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roxy Hearts Posted 13 hours ago Share Posted 13 hours ago 1 hour ago, JudyJudyJudy said: Haha and I voted remain . Because I wasn’t stupid and didn’t use it for a vehicle in the hope to break up the union . Even though I was still an Indy supporter then . I know, but you're stupid enough to support the union! 😁 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted 12 hours ago Share Posted 12 hours ago 1 hour ago, Roxy Hearts said: I know, but you're stupid enough to support the union! 😁 Actually wrong again ! I voted yes in 2014 so never voted for the union . At least I wasn’t daft enough to think voting leave from the EU would help a future Indy vote ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roxy Hearts Posted 11 hours ago Share Posted 11 hours ago 57 minutes ago, JudyJudyJudy said: Actually wrong again ! I voted yes in 2014 so never voted for the union . At least I wasn’t daft enough to think voting leave from the EU would help a future Indy vote ! I said "support" the union. Voting for Brexit has highlighted, further, that the UK couldn't manage a shite! I also think it's driven many Europeans to independence, the ones that can vote, certainly in my experience. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted 11 hours ago Share Posted 11 hours ago 7 minutes ago, Roxy Hearts said: I said "support" the union. Voting for Brexit has highlighted, further, that the UK couldn't manage a shite! I also think it's driven many Europeans to independence, the ones that can vote, certainly in my experience. Yeah Scotland getting that clear majority for independence. Well done. Legends. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted 11 hours ago Share Posted 11 hours ago 14 minutes ago, Roxy Hearts said: I said "support" the union. Voting for Brexit has highlighted, further, that the UK couldn't manage a shite! I also think it's driven many Europeans to independence, the ones that can vote, certainly in my experience. What Europeans to indy ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roxy Hearts Posted 10 hours ago Share Posted 10 hours ago 30 minutes ago, JudyJudyJudy said: What Europeans to indy ? The ones I've spoken to. Work beside a lot of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted 8 hours ago Share Posted 8 hours ago 1 hour ago, Roxy Hearts said: The ones I've spoken to. Work beside a lot of them. Ok that’s rather a small sample ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Konrad von Carstein Posted 8 hours ago Share Posted 8 hours ago 17 minutes ago, JudyJudyJudy said: Ok that’s rather a small sample ! The Europeans (Poles mainly) think we are **** idiots regarding the Brexit vote. The only Brexit benefit I can attest to is having to spend almost 10 minutes Infront of a stunning Straż Graniczna at Wrocław airport on arrival, and sadly only a few minutes with her on departure. Mrs.KvC wasn't gloating about her quick processing after that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roxy Hearts Posted 8 hours ago Share Posted 8 hours ago 32 minutes ago, JudyJudyJudy said: Ok that’s rather a small sample ! It is fairly small but in my previous job and prior to the referendum most of the Europeans I spoke to supported the union. Mostly due staying in the EU. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ｕｎｋｎｏｗｎｕｓｅｒ Posted 3 hours ago Share Posted 3 hours ago 4 hours ago, Roxy Hearts said: It is fairly small but in my previous job and prior to the referendum most of the Europeans I spoke to supported the union. Mostly due staying in the EU. I lived and worked in Holland at the time, I got so sick of being asked "wtf are you doing? Why??" I don't think I met a soul who said it seemed a good idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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