Dawnrazor Posted December 11, 2023 Share Posted December 11, 2023 Just now, Footballfirst said: The government wasn't going to reverse the scheme (started 3 August). The scheme coincided with the prevalence of the virus increasing leading to discussions about the scientists request for a "circuit breaker" series of measures in September. The government declined this in favour of the Tier system (16 October) - which the scientists said wouldn't work. It ultimately led to the second lockdown in England (31 October). Again, 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victorian Posted December 11, 2023 Share Posted December 11, 2023 It's all good anyway. That sort of answer is in itself a tacit admission of the premise of the question. That advice from particular advisors was not sought because it would not support a decision that was already made. The current CSA and next CMO will have taken note. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Footballfirst Posted December 11, 2023 Share Posted December 11, 2023 This sounds familiar: A key immigration reform bill supported by French President Emmanuel Macron's government has been defeated. MPs from the far right, far left and moderate right and left voted on Monday to reject the bill. The government says the bill aims both to control immigration and better integrate migrants. The left argues its measures are too repressive, while the right says the version presented to parliament is not tough enough. The bill would make it easier for the government to expel migrants who are sentenced to prison sentences of five years or longer and make it more difficult for migrants to bring family members to France, among other measures. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boof Posted December 11, 2023 Share Posted December 11, 2023 12 hours ago, TallPaul said: Can't do that when the majority of Sensible Scots want to remain a part of it Hey, TrollPaul, since when have the Tories - or any other party in power at Westminster - given the flyingest of ****s about Scotland other than to see what they can take from it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawnrazor Posted December 11, 2023 Share Posted December 11, 2023 2 minutes ago, Boof said: Hey, TrollPaul, since when have the Tories - or any other party in power at Westminster - given the flyingest of ****s about Scotland other than to see what they can take from it? They must give a flying **** as they do keen to keep a hold of Scotland, no? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boof Posted December 11, 2023 Share Posted December 11, 2023 14 minutes ago, Dawnrazor said: They must give a flying **** as they do keen to keep a hold of Scotland, no? That's why I said "other than to see what they can take from it". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the posh bit Posted December 12, 2023 Share Posted December 12, 2023 (edited) 8 hours ago, Nucky Thompson said: Was he a Spanish Scottish nationalist 8 hours ago, JudyJudyJudy said: Bet me to it 😂 he reminds me of rose in “ the golden girls “ when she used to recount various stories of friends etc 😂 Funniest thing on the forum when James agrees/sides/sooks in with Nutty and the latter keeps his head down thereafter. You can just imagine him squirming in his mobile hoose doon in Engurlund . 😁 Edited December 12, 2023 by the posh bit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown user Posted December 12, 2023 Share Posted December 12, 2023 On 10/12/2023 at 12:51, TallPaul said: I think your confusing migrants with illegal immigrants. The sensible ones that we might like to add to our population come via official channels. And you're confusing illegal immigrants with asylum seekers. FYI it isn't illegal for an asylum seeker to enter the country in any way (within reason of course.) International convention (spearheaded by Winston Churchill, gawd lav 'im!) recognises that asylum seekers are unlikely to have papers, travel plans, stamped passports and what have you, and therefore can't be expected to enter a country through normal channels. If a gobshite like me knows that, you'd think an experienced barrister like Braverman would too 🤔 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulysses Posted December 12, 2023 Share Posted December 12, 2023 Everyone has their own biases. For example, I think anyone who can't manage straightforward English grammar should be ****ed out of the UK and never let back in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TallPaul Posted December 12, 2023 Share Posted December 12, 2023 8 hours ago, Boof said: That's why I said "other than to see what they can take from it". Wow what an edgy boy you are Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucky Thompson Posted December 12, 2023 Share Posted December 12, 2023 8 hours ago, the posh bit said: Funniest thing on the forum when James agrees/sides/sooks in with Nutty and the latter keeps his head down thereafter. You can just imagine him squirming in his mobile hoose doon in Engurlund . 😁 The only folk that agree with you are your multiple other accounts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted December 12, 2023 Share Posted December 12, 2023 1 minute ago, Nucky Thompson said: The only folk that agree with you are your multiple other accounts 😂😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the posh bit Posted December 12, 2023 Share Posted December 12, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, Nucky Thompson said: The only folk that agree with you are your multiple other accounts I fell out with them over Naismith's appointment, FYI. Edited December 12, 2023 by the posh bit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the posh bit Posted December 12, 2023 Share Posted December 12, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, JudyJudyJudy said: 😂😂 Here he goes again 😁 Edited December 12, 2023 by the posh bit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffros Furios Posted December 12, 2023 Share Posted December 12, 2023 2 hours ago, Nucky Thompson said: The only folk that agree with you are your multiple other accounts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted December 12, 2023 Share Posted December 12, 2023 One less to assess. Cheaper than Rwanda. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gundermann Posted December 12, 2023 Share Posted December 12, 2023 Labour on double the vote of the Tories at UK level. SNP 15 points ahead of Labour in Scotland. Brexit acknowledged as a failure by large majority. https://yougov.co.uk/politics/articles/48017-voting-intention-con-22-lab-45-29-30-nov-2023 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lone Striker Posted December 12, 2023 Share Posted December 12, 2023 19 minutes ago, Gundermann said: Labour on double the vote of the Tories at UK level. SNP 15 points ahead of Labour in Scotland. Brexit acknowledged as a failure by large majority. https://yougov.co.uk/politics/articles/48017-voting-intention-con-22-lab-45-29-30-nov-2023 This might explain Starmer's belief that the Rwanda Bill will probably pass its 1st reading tonight - the logic being that the key Tory factions won't want to bring Sunak down by defeating his pet project at the 1st hurdle. They'd rather try to amend it on the 2nd or 3rd reading and if the Lords throw it back to the Commons, they'll be able to claim that "democracy is being denied by an unelected chamber". They already hate the BBC and the Law, so might as well hate the Lords too - all 3 were bastions of the Establishment until recently, but are now "radical woke lefties" apparently. They then have to hope that the courts throw out any legal challenges brought on behalf of asylum seekers so that 1 flight can take off in the Spring - its probably their only hope that the polls might then start to show a softening of Labour's lead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
micole Posted December 12, 2023 Share Posted December 12, 2023 Just heard on the news a minister flown back from Dubai to vote on the Rwanda bill then flown straight back to Dubai.....I mean WTF!! is that all about...🤷♂️ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucky Thompson Posted December 12, 2023 Share Posted December 12, 2023 9 minutes ago, micole said: Just heard on the news a minister flown back from Dubai to vote on the Rwanda bill then flown straight back to Dubai.....I mean WTF!! is that all about...🤷♂️ It's self explanatory, no? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucky Thompson Posted December 12, 2023 Share Posted December 12, 2023 It sound like he's going the extra mile to represent the constituents of Beverley and Holderness Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
micole Posted December 12, 2023 Share Posted December 12, 2023 11 minutes ago, Nucky Thompson said: It's self explanatory, no? It's nuts that's what it is....😁 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victorian Posted December 12, 2023 Share Posted December 12, 2023 The '5 families' of right wing sub-groups will abstain rather than voting down the bill. They don't want the bill but can only amend it if it survives the second reading. They don't want to kill it because that risks a general election that would end a lot of their stays at Westminster. They can only abstain and preserve the bill because of enough other Tory MPs voting for it. Utter shitebags finding the courage of other peoples' convictions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Maroonblood Posted December 12, 2023 Share Posted December 12, 2023 1 minute ago, micole said: It's nuts that's what it is....😁 That's a mild description of the UK Government. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mighty Thor Posted December 12, 2023 Share Posted December 12, 2023 3 minutes ago, Victorian said: Utter shitebags finding the courage of other peoples' convictions. Same as it ever was. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted December 12, 2023 Share Posted December 12, 2023 Doubt this result will improve for now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victorian Posted December 12, 2023 Share Posted December 12, 2023 Future Tory governments will need to learn the lessons of history, today's present. Attempt to form and operate a government majority of under 50 or 60 and they'll be perpetually hostage to these kinds of vanity cabals. Tory governments will always be dead duck, puppet regimes unless they achieve 80+ majorities. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mighty Thor Posted December 12, 2023 Share Posted December 12, 2023 2 minutes ago, Mikey1874 said: Doubt this result will improve for now Reform up to 7% Up to 10 and they'll subsume the Tories completely Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victorian Posted December 12, 2023 Share Posted December 12, 2023 Motion passes by 44. Negligible net rebellion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hughesie27 Posted December 12, 2023 Share Posted December 12, 2023 40 minutes ago, micole said: Just heard on the news a minister flown back from Dubai to vote on the Rwanda bill then flown straight back to Dubai.....I mean WTF!! is that all about...🤷♂️ Another example of the ridiculous antiquated rules we have where you need to vote in person. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted December 12, 2023 Share Posted December 12, 2023 Labour happy with that. Continues the civil war. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
periodictabledancer Posted December 12, 2023 Share Posted December 12, 2023 1 minute ago, Mikey1874 said: Labour happy with that. Continues the civil war. Had to laugh when I saw the five splinter groups/ rival factions of Tories decribed as "families". Gotta love the Tory media. If this was the Labour party you'd never hear the end of "CIVIL WAR!!!". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazo Posted December 12, 2023 Share Posted December 12, 2023 1 hour ago, micole said: Just heard on the news a minister flown back from Dubai to vote on the Rwanda bill then flown straight back to Dubai.....I mean WTF!! is that all about...🤷♂️ Exactly, he could have just voted from the hotel bar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Gin Posted December 12, 2023 Share Posted December 12, 2023 35 minutes ago, The Mighty Thor said: Reform up to 7% Up to 10 and they'll subsume the Tories completely Good to see that right wing vote being split up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Footballfirst Posted December 12, 2023 Share Posted December 12, 2023 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Footballfirst Posted December 12, 2023 Share Posted December 12, 2023 A typical example of a Tory privatisation success after the investors have milked it for all its worth.. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-67696645 Unable to pay £190m loan due in April Together with its parent company £18bn in debt Needs £2.5bn in new investment to stay afloat Asking OFWAT to allow price increases of 40% above inflation by 2030 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psychedelicropcircle Posted December 12, 2023 Share Posted December 12, 2023 23 minutes ago, Footballfirst said: A typical example of a Tory privatisation success after the investors have milked it for all its worth.. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-67696645 Unable to pay £190m loan due in April Together with its parent company £18bn in debt Needs £2.5bn in new investment to stay afloat Asking OFWAT to allow price increases of 40% above inflation by 2030 Surely if you’re the customer you tell them to ram a 40% rise and bring it down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dennis Reynolds Posted December 12, 2023 Share Posted December 12, 2023 Quote They also warned that if it was nationalised, taxpayers would face a hefty bill. Quote but that is contingent in part on the regulator, Ofwat, agreeing to household bills increasing by 40% on top of inflation by 2030. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Footballfirst Posted December 12, 2023 Share Posted December 12, 2023 Thames Water - Just the £7.2bn in dividends paid out since privatisation. https://www.theguardian.com/business/2023/jun/30/in-charts-how-privatisation-drained-thames-waters-coffers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manaliveits105 Posted December 12, 2023 Share Posted December 12, 2023 So another win for the Government then comrades Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psychedelicropcircle Posted December 12, 2023 Share Posted December 12, 2023 10 minutes ago, manaliveits105 said: So another win for the Government then comrades Not a single immigrant will be flown into Rwanda. Which will prove yet another failed policy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victorian Posted December 12, 2023 Share Posted December 12, 2023 The water companies heist is the 'in plain sight' state sanctioned robbery of the ages. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ked Posted December 12, 2023 Share Posted December 12, 2023 5 minutes ago, Victorian said: The water companies heist is the 'in plain sight' state sanctioned robbery of the ages. It along with the state sanctioned VIP GREAT CASH GRAB FOR THE ALREADY RICH COVID GRANTS. I've said it a few times. It's a definition of fascism. We might not have it in the same look but it's just more sophisticated. Why would oxbridge see a career in the peanuts offered from an mps or ministers wage. It's not just the UK though. Democratic government that we thought we knew is down the bog and what we knew wasn't much better. Democracy is fake. Our elected thief's are in place to do the thievery. There is no example of otherwise. I cannot see how voting does any good. I say that as a nationalist. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SectionDJambo Posted December 12, 2023 Share Posted December 12, 2023 2 hours ago, periodictabledancer said: Had to laugh when I saw the five splinter groups/ rival factions of Tories decribed as "families". Gotta love the Tory media. If this was the Labour party you'd never hear the end of "CIVIL WAR!!!". Not to mention MARXISTS, LEFTIES or COMMIES. Meanwhile, it is the current elite of the Conservative Party who are cosying up to the Russians. Only the good Russians though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlimOzturk Posted December 12, 2023 Share Posted December 12, 2023 So you have 5 separate sub sections of the Tory party all with different beliefs seemingly at loggerheads with each other. Then you have a Labour Party equally teetering on the edge with lefty socialists and centre right “tory light” politicians at loggerheads. Liberal Democrat’s are just shit and habent recovered from Nick Clegg. The greens are just tree hugging lunatics with agendas that really don’t address actual real life issues such as the economy. The SNP have lost all credibility. Humza Useless is driving that party into the ground. Zero credible solutions are coming forward. It’s a dire situation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That thing you do Posted December 13, 2023 Share Posted December 13, 2023 For any unionists on here wondering why a subsidised basket case like Scotland is so welcome in the union. Heres one example of how England is the actual basket case. An independent Scotland could literally turn Englands lights off. Youre probably thinking what Im thinking? That could be a nice earner for Indy Scotland. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roxy Hearts Posted December 13, 2023 Share Posted December 13, 2023 5 minutes ago, That thing you do said: For any unionists on here wondering why a subsidised basket case like Scotland is so welcome in the union. Heres one example of how England is the actual basket case. An independent Scotland could literally turn Englands lights off. Youre probably thinking what Im thinking? That could be a nice earner for Indy Scotland. Unionists don't think bud! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That thing you do Posted December 13, 2023 Share Posted December 13, 2023 4 minutes ago, Roxy Hearts said: Unionists don't think bud! I know. But the graphic has arrows and dots. Even they can understand it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucky Thompson Posted December 13, 2023 Share Posted December 13, 2023 32 minutes ago, Roxy Hearts said: Unionists aren't brainwashed bud! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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