Watt-Zeefuik Posted March 1, 2017 Share Posted March 1, 2017 Beyond awful today. Directly at fault for the winning goal with his casual approach to a ball in the box. Yes, he's clearly got ability, but his desire to use it seems to wane with every day. I no longer care if this is the fault of his attitude or because Cathro's instructions make no sense to the players. We actually looked decent for stretches of the first half when the ball was in the County half, but we are so fragile at the back right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peebo Posted March 1, 2017 Share Posted March 1, 2017 Kills any sense of urgency we occasionally have. A liability in possession at times. Probably great in training, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thommo414 Posted March 1, 2017 Share Posted March 1, 2017 Hopeless. Goes to show what happens when we toss ourselves off over someone after one game Sent from my F5121 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jambo1975 Posted March 1, 2017 Share Posted March 1, 2017 Lazy beyond belief. Happy to never see him in a hearts shirt again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jammy T Posted March 1, 2017 Share Posted March 1, 2017 Our form since he started starting games has been appalling. When nothing else is working it seems that dropping him has to happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gambo Posted March 1, 2017 Share Posted March 1, 2017 Goal apart he did ok. Not everything came off but did okay (no better than that). There is a lack of options for the person on the ball. Did more in last ten mins up front than Johnsen did all game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowmans_Boot Posted March 1, 2017 Share Posted March 1, 2017 He isnt what we need by a long way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peebo Posted March 1, 2017 Share Posted March 1, 2017 Goal apart he did ok. Not everything came off but did okay (no better than that). There is a lack of options for the person on the ball. Did more in last ten mins up front than Johnsen did all game. He was also massively at fault for the goal they had chopped off. Not that it mattered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur Morgan Posted March 1, 2017 Share Posted March 1, 2017 He's on a 6 month holiday. His sprints are more of a jog. Awful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toxteth O'Grady Posted March 1, 2017 Share Posted March 1, 2017 He might have talent but he isn't what we need Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo 4 Ever Posted March 1, 2017 Share Posted March 1, 2017 But but but he has pedigree Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pants Shaton Posted March 1, 2017 Share Posted March 1, 2017 Didn't buy into the 'stroller' pish after his first few games. This guy has been threatening to lose us a game for weeks - he came good tonight on that early promise. Talented footballer who doesn't give a ****. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gashauskis9 Posted March 1, 2017 Share Posted March 1, 2017 It seems this huddie can do no wrong in some folk's eyes, always the fault of those in front of him. Imposter, isn't trying a leg for us. Actually feel sorry for Cathro, think we all fell for this joke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robbo1874 Posted March 1, 2017 Share Posted March 1, 2017 He'd be fine if there were more options off the ball. Our movement off the ball is shocking. Then we slow things right down allowing teams to get back into a defensive formation.. We lack urgency. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sexton Hardcastle Posted March 1, 2017 Share Posted March 1, 2017 Another new singing to achieve 'kickback bingo'. Signs, looks ok - he's amazing, chug chug chug Bad run of form - never liked the *****, levein gtf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo 4 Ever Posted March 1, 2017 Share Posted March 1, 2017 Ryan Stevenson would have been better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LogicalEric Posted March 1, 2017 Share Posted March 1, 2017 Needs people beside him to do the donkey work and unfortunately for us we have no-one that can supplement. A passenger at the moment. The massive gamble of chucking in so many players with no experience of Scottish football, mid season is well and truly backfiring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BelgeJambo Posted March 1, 2017 Share Posted March 1, 2017 Not so sure he should be in the bad lad seat tonight That should be for Johnson Offered nothing for the midfield to find him Bikey and Currie offered more than he did all night Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glottis Posted March 1, 2017 Share Posted March 1, 2017 He's clearly talented but he's stopping us from attacking. Him and his compatriot just want to pass the ball sideways all game. How many times did he have 10-20 yds infront but chose a sideways pass? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
savage Posted March 1, 2017 Share Posted March 1, 2017 He constantly shows and wants the ball. The problems lie in front of him where movement is appalling and wide men are non existent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dallas Green Posted March 1, 2017 Share Posted March 1, 2017 Bizzarely played better when chucked up front and winning headers to knock down. Massive mistake for the goal. Should have just cleared it. He didn't hide away however and tried to look for the ball. I found Avolontis slowed our play more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riccarton3 Posted March 1, 2017 Share Posted March 1, 2017 He has the ability to pass and look for a return whilst creating space but doesn't want to enough- too much like hard work. But then those around him are no better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kila Posted March 1, 2017 Share Posted March 1, 2017 He does some magic here and there but I don't think it's worth it given how much he slows down our play the rest of the time. Same problem with our two centre halves. I'm starting to think we're better off with Kitchen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruyff Turn Posted March 1, 2017 Share Posted March 1, 2017 Felt sorry for him after that. Mistakes a mistake, shit happens, then he just about cost us a 2nd but that Schalk lad was offside fortunately for him. I didn't think he was particularly terrible though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gashauskis9 Posted March 1, 2017 Share Posted March 1, 2017 Felt sorry for him after that. Mistakes a mistake, shit happens, then he just about cost us a 2nd but that Schalk lad was offside fortunately for him. I didn't think he was particularly terrible though. Therein lies the problem. Making excuses for a player who's played at the highest level and who can't raise his game to cope with highland cloggers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobreath Posted March 1, 2017 Share Posted March 1, 2017 Goal apart he did ok. Completely disagree he was not okay, he was the poorest on the pitch tonight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
feedthefox Posted March 1, 2017 Share Posted March 1, 2017 This was pretty much the thread I was thinking as I left. It would have been called Tzilois (another Greek myth) From what I could see off Cathro on the sidelines he was urging the players to get the ball forward, to be fair to Jack tonight he was getting the ball out sharp but we would then pass it inside to Tzilois who would exchange a couple of short passes look around pass again and then saunter across the pitch while inviting Ross Co on top of us. Ok if you're 1 nil up and your trying to protect things but is a complete hand brake otherwise. In his defence Cowie & Co were utter mince and offered absolutely nothing Martin made more successful passes in 15 mins than the rest did collectively. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.T.F.Robertson Posted March 1, 2017 Share Posted March 1, 2017 He'd be fine if there were more options off the ball. Our movement off the ball is shocking. Then we slow things right down allowing teams to get back into a defensive formation.. We lack urgency. We've been "playing" this way for most of the past two seasons. I often wonder if this regimented, so-called style is what gives the appearance of the players not giving a toss. Surely we haven't managed to lumber ourselves with an almost complete team of wasters? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruyff Turn Posted March 1, 2017 Share Posted March 1, 2017 Therein lies the problem. Making excuses for a player who's played at the highest level and who can't raise his game to cope with highland cloggers.I've not made any excuses for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JyTees Posted March 1, 2017 Share Posted March 1, 2017 Ryan Stevenson would have been better How the **** are you still here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gashauskis9 Posted March 1, 2017 Share Posted March 1, 2017 I've not made any excuses for him. Apart from feeling sorry for him? Maybe I missed the point of the post, apologies chief. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambojamie91 Posted March 1, 2017 Share Posted March 1, 2017 He's the root of all problems for us just now, kills all the urgency and needs two or three touches all the time, bench him and put cowie in beside djoum or kitchen in there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.T.F.Robertson Posted March 1, 2017 Share Posted March 1, 2017 How the **** are you still here? Can anyone seriously be that daft? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy65 Posted March 1, 2017 Share Posted March 1, 2017 He's going through the motions getting himself fit for something else- no interest in HMFC and no desire to go the extra mile,no heart no passion an utter imposter for Hearts. He is the problem and Cathro needs the balls to drop him. We are in free fall and our DoF needs to answer to our recruitment. At this rate we are not only fecked this season but next also , short terms deals will be gone Paterson gone, likely Walker and Nicholson will follow, and Soutar out for most of next season....not looking good. Football dept strategy doesn't exist and contradicts Leveins message in 2014 re planning etc- therefore in truth he has no plan and no idea- easy to blame Cathro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Five to One Posted March 1, 2017 Share Posted March 1, 2017 The guys brought in all look they're thinking 'what am I doing here'. Martin is so in shock he's started wearing his shorts like Simon Cowell. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo 4 Ever Posted March 1, 2017 Share Posted March 1, 2017 How the **** are you still here? I'm entitled to my opinion that I think Ryan Stevenson would offer more than some of our midfielders just now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruyff Turn Posted March 1, 2017 Share Posted March 1, 2017 Apart from feeling sorry for him? Maybe I missed the point of the post, apologies chief.Nah I can see where you're coming from. He knew he'd ****ed up. It was a bad mistake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
viva hate Posted March 1, 2017 Share Posted March 1, 2017 Best player on the park IMO apart from the costly mistake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luscious Laryea Posted March 1, 2017 Share Posted March 1, 2017 He constantly shows and wants the ball. The problems lie in front of him where movement is appalling and wide men are non existent This. Clearly you are someone who actually understands how a game of football works. We can't expect a defensive midfielder to charge up the park skinning opposition players. He's basically a budget Xabi Alonso - gulf in class but similar in style. Some of the movement from others is nothing short of pathetic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graygo Posted March 1, 2017 Share Posted March 1, 2017 Best player on the park IMO apart from the costly mistake. I agree with you, apart from a couple of times where he got caught he was always available for a pass and always looking for one. Head and shoulders above anyone else in our team. I actually had him as man of the match. I clearly know feck all about football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Internet Posted March 1, 2017 Share Posted March 1, 2017 I'm entitled to my opinion that I think Ryan Stevenson would offer more than some of our midfielders just now Have you even watched him apart from his games against us since he left? Proper drunk football fan in pub chat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Findlay Posted March 1, 2017 Share Posted March 1, 2017 Threads like this make me despair. He is a class act. He is one of those players who makes himself have loads of time on the ball and he never hides. Because he makes himself time. People perceive this as lazy and nothing could be further from the truth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Findlay Posted March 1, 2017 Share Posted March 1, 2017 Threads like this make me despair. He is a class act. He is one of those players who makes himself have loads of time on the ball and he never hides. Because he makes himself time. People perceive this as lazy and nothing could be further from the truth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Brightside Posted March 1, 2017 Share Posted March 1, 2017 Goal apart he did ok. Not everything came off but did okay (no better than that). There is a lack of options for the person on the ball. Did more in last ten mins up front than Johnsen did all game. That's my thoughts as well. Took the ball in tight spaces and kept it moving. When we rely on him to ping 60yard balls then it becomes clear that long passing is not his game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Brightside Posted March 1, 2017 Share Posted March 1, 2017 Ryan Stevenson would have been better Is Ryan Stevenson the new Zeefuik? Ryan Stevenson is no longer Premier League quality if he ever was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Barack Posted March 1, 2017 Share Posted March 1, 2017 I backed him to the hilt when we were linked to him, as his quality isn't in doubt. He's said himself, he's not a player like savage and LL have said above. If no-one's moving for him, then I'd perhaps expect a bit more self-determination and drive to take the game by the scruff, and having the faith in his own ability. But, no-one on the team is doing that either. Hope he comes good, obviously there are you guys who watch him live, and are better placed to comment. I just hope by the end of the season, with (hopefully) an upturn in our play and fight, his class will show through again for us, in the same way against Rangers. Would hate JiH to go dragging up old threads, to try and prove a bookmarked point scoring exercise, made many months ago... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JyTees Posted March 1, 2017 Share Posted March 1, 2017 Constantly looking for a forward pass but absolutely nothing in front of him. Djoum and Johnson? Pffft. He's miles ahead of anything we have and I don't blame him for wondering what the **** he's doing here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyJenkins Posted March 1, 2017 Share Posted March 1, 2017 Goal apart he did ok. Not everything came off but did okay (no better than that). There is a lack of options for the person on the ball. Did more in last ten mins up front than Johnsen did all game. The number of times Johnson didn't run, hid behind his man. Our movement off the ball n taking responsibility is totally lacking. Paterson gives us that, we miss him. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevie1874 Posted March 1, 2017 Share Posted March 1, 2017 Beyond awful today. Directly at fault for the winning goal with his casual approach to a ball in the box. Yes, he's clearly got ability, but his desire to use it seems to wane with every day. I no longer care if this is the fault of his attitude or because Cathro's instructions make no sense to the players. We actually looked decent for stretches of the first half when the ball was in the County half, but we are so fragile at the back right now. Was at fault for the goal no doubt, but when he gets the ball there was absolutely no movement in front of him. Bjorn stood beside either centre half all night instead of taking a chance turning and running the channels when we got possession. AlsoTziolis never hides and always shows for the ball unlike Djoum & Cowie when things started going against us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hendricks Posted March 1, 2017 Share Posted March 1, 2017 It's fairly evident he's enjoying 6 months in one of the most beautiful cities in Europe whilst masquerading as the footballer he once was. His legs have clearly gone and seeing out the remainder of his career by jumping around a few clubs. Barely breaks sweat (not in a good way). We should not be playing guys who will not be with us next season. Simple as that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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