Son Of Anarchy Posted December 31, 2016 Share Posted December 31, 2016 Op........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Slim Stylee Posted December 31, 2016 Share Posted December 31, 2016 Op........ History of "tool, sharpest, box, not" to be fair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Son Of Anarchy Posted December 31, 2016 Share Posted December 31, 2016 History of "tool, sharpest, box, not" to be fair. That would fill the dots for sure dude. Thought I'd leave it open to interpretation to keep warnings for more deserved causes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Rabbit Posted December 31, 2016 Share Posted December 31, 2016 Bit bizarre as none of these players have exactly lit the heather alight at their loan clubs. January is notoriously difficult to get players in, especially for clubs who don't have money. It's an option if we're struggling but I would rather see what we could bring in first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobNox Posted December 31, 2016 Share Posted December 31, 2016 I can see the OPs point tbf. We looked really short of options on the bench last night when it was clear we needed to make a change. I'd rather see Juanma on the bench as an a attacking option than Sammon. Similarly last night was a game where Reilly might have been a decent option, if only to harry and press the opposition a bit more. I'm sure all of the loanees will come into Cathro's consideration as he continues to assess what he needs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr fox Posted December 31, 2016 Share Posted December 31, 2016 I remember Juanma stuffing Aberdeen as well. I would have him back he is a good finisher just up the workrate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Slim Stylee Posted December 31, 2016 Share Posted December 31, 2016 That would fill the dots for sure dude. Thought I'd leave it open to interpretation to keep warnings for more deserved causes You cunning old fox. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benny Factor Posted January 1, 2017 Share Posted January 1, 2017 McGhee is not better than Souter nor dose he have the potential to go anywhere near as far as Souter. Were McGhee and Souttar not outstanding in central defence away to Ross County last season? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazzas right boot Posted January 1, 2017 Share Posted January 1, 2017 People are idiots, get the folk back that made no progress in the cups and finished 3rd last year. Because that will improve us this year????? The only thing the loannees would add is strength to the bench, wouldn't add anything To the first eleven. Definitely won't make us better than rangers or Aberdeen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wheatfield to sheffield Posted January 1, 2017 Share Posted January 1, 2017 All depends on if they had recall clauses in their contracts. Does anyone actually know? I thought McGhee's a one year loan then permanent transfer, so unlikely to be able to get him back. Similarly, can Hearts definitely end Watt's loan unilaterally? If it is always only up to Hearts and not the other clubs whether players come or go, then we worked out some great deals ? but that might just not be the case for all of them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazzas right boot Posted January 1, 2017 Share Posted January 1, 2017 Were McGhee and Souttar not outstanding in central defence away to Ross County last season? Jordan is shite, average SPL player, bound for at Johnstone or the likes next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan Drago Posted January 1, 2017 Share Posted January 1, 2017 I don't think Kings all that, but I always assumed when he left we'd get another winger in to replace him. We didn't, so we should get him back as cover for Walker and Nicholson. Juanma back is a no brainier unless we sign a striker in January. Not a huge fan of Reilly but he is a grafter, might not do much himself but he creates space for other players with his running. Would be a decent option on the bench. McGhee not sure about, never impressed me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazzas right boot Posted January 1, 2017 Share Posted January 1, 2017 I don't think Kings all that, but I always assumed when he left we'd get another winger in to replace him. We didn't, so we should get him back as cover for Walker and Nicholson. Juanma back is a no brainier unless we sign a striker in January. Not a huge fan of Reilly but he is a grafter, might not do much himself but he creates space for other players with his running. Would be a decent option on the bench. McGhee not sure about, never impressed me. Agree on King and juanma. Reilly is just a worse Sammon, but will be on about a third of the money, neither will have the teams above us scared Agree on Jordan, but if Oz goes we are short there as well. Seems daft but after a third place finish, we need a few players to make us better and a few to beef up what is a thin squad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GarryJ-o-s Posted January 1, 2017 Share Posted January 1, 2017 They would improve squad depth, but I don't think any one of them would improve our best XI. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRAVEHEART1874 Posted January 1, 2017 Share Posted January 1, 2017 With watt and sammon offering zilch can see why Juanma back would help. If Nicholson is still out for a bit can see why King back could help. Would prefer the manager to sign a new striker as well though especially if watt is away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
el_jambo74 Posted January 1, 2017 Share Posted January 1, 2017 I like McGhee but he's not better than Souter and I don't think the 2 of them could play together for lack of height. Yet somehow people think Aaron Hughes would work with Souttar. They are about the same height and build (McGhee and Hughes). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
el_jambo74 Posted January 1, 2017 Share Posted January 1, 2017 Reilly would be an improvement on Currie for the bench. His pace and movement may fit better into Cathro's style of play. King would also add pace that we have been lacking but get the impression he doesn't want to be an impact sub. Juanma - goal scorer yes, but too much baggage. Depends if we can get someone else in. McGhee - not good enough for centre half and won't play full back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iaingraham77 Posted January 1, 2017 Share Posted January 1, 2017 Get Reilly back...Juanma and King too...can't see McGhee coming back...Let Cathro make up his mind on them all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iaingraham77 Posted January 1, 2017 Share Posted January 1, 2017 Get Reilly back...Juanma and King too...can't see McGhee coming back...Let Cathro make up his mind on them all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroughtyJambo Posted January 1, 2017 Share Posted January 1, 2017 After tonights game its clear as day we need Billy king,Jordan mcghee and jaunma back to bolster the squad options. No, no and no. A bench warmer, a poor defender who is no where near good enough and a disinterested forward who doesn't understand what being offside is. Rather we let all three go and free up the wages Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benny Factor Posted January 1, 2017 Share Posted January 1, 2017 Jordan is shite, average SPL player, bound for at Johnstone or the likes next year. I agree with you. Just saying they were praised for their performance as a central defensive partnership that night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amadjambo Posted January 1, 2017 Share Posted January 1, 2017 No, no and no. A bench warmer, a poor defender who is no where near good enough and a disinterested forward who doesn't understand what being offside is. Rather we let all three go and free up the wages Yep, freeing up the wages is the best option, but perhaps unlikely. If we are to continue paying them then I'd rather they were in our squad which is so lacking in options it is scandalous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobNox Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 Yet somehow people think Aaron Hughes would work with Souttar. They are about the same height and build (McGhee and Hughes). Hughes is vastly more experienced though. Positional sense and timing of the jump can compensate for a lack of height. Someone with the experience of Hughes playing alongside Souttar can only help his development imo. It could be like Jardine and Levein, or Pressley and Webster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
el_jambo74 Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 Hughes is vastly more experienced though. Positional sense and timing of the jump can compensate for a lack of height. Someone with the experience of Hughes playing alongside Souttar can only help his development imo. It could be like Jardine and Levein, or Pressley and Webster. With Ireland he's beside Gareth McAuley - a commanding defender. Hughes is positionally good. He's not commanding though. I would be pleased to be proved wrong but I just don't see this working. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobNox Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 With Ireland he's beside Gareth McAuley - a commanding defender. Hughes is positionally good. He's not commanding though. I would be pleased to be proved wrong but I just don't see this working.Fair comment. I guess we just have to wait and see. Sent from my HTC One_M8 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJGJ Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 Reilly..why King...why McGhee..doesn't want to be here Juanma..the only one to consider really and only if he was given the okay by our current head coach Along with a couple of others we should look to move them on permanently this window Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caspian Primrose Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 I'd welcome Juanma back. Cathro should at least try to get the best out of him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Statto Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 I think Juanma would be an improvement on Sammon but I don't think Reilly would be an improvement on Watt. I personally don't think Juanma is consistent enough to justify possibly having to pay a fee to end his loan deal early, he wouldn't be our first choice centre forward unless Johnsen was injured or suspended. If/when we do bring someone in, I think it would be better to go for a loan deal from an English Premier League/Championship team or a free agent, (Zeefuik...). Maybe Cathro could use his contacts at Newcastle and bring up one or two decent young players on loan, Callum Roberts, 19 year old winger has scored 4 and assisted 6 in 8 games for the U23's, Sean Longstaff, 19 year old attacking midfielder has 6 goals and 3 assists in 10 games. They would a bit of depth and quality to our squad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitch41 Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 People are idiots, get the folk back that made no progress in the cups and finished 3rd last year. Because that will improve us this year????? The only thing the loannees would add is strength to the bench, wouldn't add anything To the first eleven. Definitely won't make us better than rangers or Aberdeen. Your right but calling people idiots is a bit extreme. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazzas right boot Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 Yet somehow people think Aaron Hughes would work with Souttar. They are about the same height and build (McGhee and Hughes). The guy with over 100 caps, played in the epl for 15 years, played at the Euros. Aye, he'll be shite in this league because of his height.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazzas right boot Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 Your right but calling people idiots is a bit extreme. Well, they're saying stupid shit. Maybe they aren't idiot's, but they are acting like one! Got someone else comparing Jordan and A Hughes, wtf? Crazy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroughtyJambo Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 Reilly..why King...why McGhee..doesn't want to be here Juanma..the only one to consider really and only if he was given the okay by our current head coach Along with a couple of others we should look to move them on permanently this window Really don't get the love in for bit part players which would add nothing to the first team or the bench. If we are writing this season off, then now is the time to tell King, McGhee, Juanma, Reilly, Sammon etc that they services are no longer required and will not be offered any deals at season end or current contracts torn up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitch41 Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 Really don't get the love in for bit part players which would add nothing to the first team or the bench. If we are writing this season off, then now is the time to tell King, McGhee, Juanma, Reilly, Sammon etc that they services are no longer required and will not be offered any deals at season end or current contracts torn up. can't disagree there. I recon there's about 7 to 8 i'd get rid of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroughtyJambo Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 Built a very successful team for the championship and got rid of the dead weight with very few failures in recruitment/replacements but in the last two years the quality in recruitment seems to have stalled and the dead weight hasn't been let go, only put out on loan. Djoum only getting 6month deal before being offered a longer one, other players only getting one and two year deals but then suddenly someone like Sammon gets a 3 yr deal. We shouldn't be thinking the dead weight currently on loan can come back and help the team, we should be thinking about the poor summer recruitment and the potential for little movement in or out of the club this month. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bairdy Posted January 3, 2017 Share Posted January 3, 2017 Really don't get the love in for bit part players which would add nothing to the first team or the bench. If we are writing this season off, then now is the time to tell King, McGhee, Juanma, Reilly, Sammon etc that they services are no longer required and will not be offered any deals at season end or current contracts torn up.Agree with this. These guys won't make it with Hearts, (imo). Time for a big clearout. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thought Police Posted January 3, 2017 Share Posted January 3, 2017 Reilly is just a worse Sammon Scored about three times as many goals with far less opportunities Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wavydavy Posted January 3, 2017 Share Posted January 3, 2017 Don't get the King love affair - useless and still a bench warmer Me to along with Reilly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Dunphy Posted January 3, 2017 Share Posted January 3, 2017 I remember Juanma at Easter Road replay That's all I have to say Scored a goal that was ruled out because of the guy up beside him. No-one else talks about Juanma at Easter Road. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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