1874robbo Posted November 14, 2016 Share Posted November 14, 2016 I'll support him if he plays and obviously want him to do well but let's be honest. He's been truly awful and given the chat that he's one of the biggest, if not our highest, earner then he's been horrific value for money. As I say I'll support him if he plays but the fact that Neilson played Liam Smith, am inexperienced right back ahead of Oshaniwa at LB speaks volumes. There's a huge difference between looking decent for the under 20's and in the first team where the opposition are better and there's far more pressure to do well in front of fans. If you'd ever seen Djoum play for our 20's you would never have given him a start in our first team!!! Take anything at that level with a pinch of salt. I honestly believe there is a player in there in oshinawa and I hope he shows us it soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spencer Posted November 14, 2016 Share Posted November 14, 2016 So you're saying we shouldn't boo Oshaniwa because he's a Hearts player, but Ozturk is fair game? [emoji23] Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk No I've never advocated booing anyone Your words not mine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Dunphy Posted November 14, 2016 Share Posted November 14, 2016 No I've never advocated booing anyone Your words not mine No, you said we should be supportive of Osh because he's a Hearts player. Does this mean you'll start being supportive of Ozturk by extension? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spencer Posted November 14, 2016 Share Posted November 14, 2016 No, you said we should be supportive of Osh because he's a Hearts player. Does this mean you'll start being supportive of Ozturk by extension? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk You're on for an argument Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maroon Man Posted November 14, 2016 Share Posted November 14, 2016 You're on for an argument Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Dunphy Posted November 15, 2016 Share Posted November 15, 2016 You're on for an argument I'm looking forward to you turning over a new leaf in regards to Alim Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maroonhio Posted November 15, 2016 Share Posted November 15, 2016 The U20s performances individually and as a team have been very poor this term. Things may improve next season when some of the brighter prospects from the current U17s make the step up to the U20s. To be fair most of the lads will be actually 2nd year U17s playing up next season, but getting an extra year with the older group should stand a lot of these lads well in the years ahead. I'm thinking of the likes of Reed (already there), Kyle Smith, Cochrane, Leonard, McDonald as well as a few more. When people are looking for comfort from Oshaniwa in this team then there really is a problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spencer Posted November 15, 2016 Share Posted November 15, 2016 I'm looking forward to you turning over a new leaf in regards to Alim Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk In the same way that our management have you mean? Stripped of captaincy once season is underway, dropped to the bench and publicly advised that contract discussions are on hold, perhaps indefinitely His stock is high though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Dunphy Posted November 16, 2016 Share Posted November 16, 2016 In the same way that our management have you mean? Stripped of captaincy once season is underway, dropped to the bench and publicly advised that contract discussions are on hold, perhaps indefinitely His stock is high though No, you back him at every opportunity because he's a Hearts player. Like you're telling us we should do with Osh. Or are you admitting to being a hypocritical bellend? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spencer Posted November 16, 2016 Share Posted November 16, 2016 No, you back him at every opportunity because he's a Hearts player. Like you're telling us we should do with Osh. Or are you admitting to being a hypocritical bellend? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Ozturk has had his chance. There's a reason he's been marginalised. When do you see a club change captain mid season I didn't mention Ozturk on this thread - you did. I simply stated I hope Oshinawa would get a further opportunity Your contribution has been completely irrelevant here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Dunphy Posted November 16, 2016 Share Posted November 16, 2016 Ozturk has had his chance. There's a reason he's been marginalised. When do you see a club change captain mid season I didn't mention Ozturk on this thread - you did. I simply stated I hope Oshinawa would get a further opportunity Your contribution has been completely irrelevant here So you're saying we should support all our players. Except Alim Ozturk. Thanks for proving my original point, that you're quite the hypocrite Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spencer Posted November 17, 2016 Share Posted November 17, 2016 So you're saying we should support all our players. Except Alim Ozturk. Thanks for proving my original point, that you're quite the hypocrite Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk That's not what I've said. You're unable to debate rationally Discussion over Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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