Nelly Terraces Posted January 15, 2008 Share Posted January 15, 2008 Hows many's that he's got now? 10?? He must be worth a small fortune to us now. Anyone want to put a price on his head? I'd say 2.5 mill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loveofthegame Posted January 15, 2008 Share Posted January 15, 2008 Aye, pitty WBA have an agreement in place for a price thats been set. I know this has been said countless times before on here but is this absolute fact on merely guessing as its usually the done thing?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rawrrrrrrr Posted January 15, 2008 Share Posted January 15, 2008 Bednar is no longer a hearts player in all essence, the fee is set, how he does down there is irrelevent and there is no point in moaning once the cow has bolted Lets worry about things we can control or change Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joldy finlayson Posted January 15, 2008 Share Posted January 15, 2008 we should bring bednar back he has scored again tonight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedbump Posted January 15, 2008 Share Posted January 15, 2008 Really a case of what could have been:ahhhhhhh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nelly Terraces Posted January 15, 2008 Share Posted January 15, 2008 I think a fee has already been previously agreed. Your are kidding. VERY poor business there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockyBalboa Posted January 15, 2008 Share Posted January 15, 2008 I know this has been said countless times before on here but is this absolute fact on merely guessing as its usually the done thing?! Absolute fact. Mowbray has confirmed it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loveofthegame Posted January 15, 2008 Share Posted January 15, 2008 Hows many's that he's got now? 10?? He must be worth a small fortune to us now. Anyone want to put a price on his head? I'd say 2.5 mill. Theres strikers in the Championship with much much lower strike rates than Bednar and who have played more games with valuations of ?5M+ Now unfortunately it seems to have been suggested that a price has been agreed, which is likely to be around the ?1M-?1.5M range Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudolf's Mate Posted January 15, 2008 Share Posted January 15, 2008 Bednar is no longer a hearts player in all essence, the fee is set, how he does down there is irrelevent and there is no point in moaning once the cow has bolted Lets worry about things we can control or change If Vlad wanted to recall Bednar then he can do so tonight and play him on Saturday. Loan agreements can be cancelled at any time by the club who owns the player. Bednar is contracted to Hearts for a long period. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amoruso Lets it Run ... Posted January 15, 2008 Share Posted January 15, 2008 2000: GOAL West Brom 1-0 Charlton Roman Bednar sets the Baggies fans boing boinging. A deep cross by Jonathan Greeniing is headed back across goal and the ball hits Bednar and goes in - he does not know much about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drylaw Hearts Posted January 15, 2008 Share Posted January 15, 2008 Bednar is no longer a hearts player in all essence, the fee is set, how he does down there is irrelevent and there is no point in moaning once the cow has bolted Lets worry about things we can control or change We can't control or change anything. We can however continue to highlight the poor decisions made by whoever controls the football side of the Club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loveofthegame Posted January 15, 2008 Share Posted January 15, 2008 Absolute fact. Mowbray has confirmed it. Cheers mate wasn't doubting you just hadn't heard that for sure. A real shame from our (not yours obv) point of view. Burley was on record as saying he was the best youngster he'd ever worked with. What a shame its ended how it has. Our loss is WBA's massive gain by the looks of things. Well done Vlad.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamboSean Posted January 15, 2008 Share Posted January 15, 2008 Bednar's form is certainly not a bad thing for us. Say a Fulham, Reading or 'Boro show some real interest in him. This would mean Bednar could very well reject a move to WBA and we'd be able to put a price on him. I'd imagine the agreed fee to WBA would only last so long as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo Hoggie Posted January 15, 2008 Share Posted January 15, 2008 we should bring bednar back he has scored again tonight He was in the Record today saying he doesn't want to return. Pity really as we need him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vlad_Knows_Best Posted January 15, 2008 Share Posted January 15, 2008 Why? He did not want to play for us in the latter stages when he was here and does not want to play for Hearts now. Move on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazo Posted January 15, 2008 Share Posted January 15, 2008 Absolute fact. Mowbray has confirmed it. Where ? I would love to see that in writting. Only place i have read that "fact" is on here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loveofthegame Posted January 15, 2008 Share Posted January 15, 2008 If Vlad wanted to recall Bednar then he can do so tonight and play him on Saturday. Loan agreements can be cancelled at any time by the club who owns the player. Bednar is contracted to Hearts for a long period. This may well not be true. Loan agreements are contracts. If the contract(ie loan deal) has stipulated as a term in it that Roman Bednar cannot be recalled, then he cannot be recalled. Simple as that. And anyway i don't think he'd be very happy about being brought back up here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ivanhoe Posted January 15, 2008 Share Posted January 15, 2008 Its called man management. A boot up the erky and a manager in the same country as the team works wonders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur Axident Posted January 15, 2008 Share Posted January 15, 2008 Mare chance of bringing back hanging i think aa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drylaw Hearts Posted January 15, 2008 Share Posted January 15, 2008 Your are kidding. VERY poor business there. Absolute fact. Mowbray has confirmed it. Mowbray did confirm this deal a couple of weeks ago. There is no way they won't take-up the option to buy RB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jaybee Posted January 15, 2008 Share Posted January 15, 2008 yep..hes pish overweight slow etc etc...anyone who actually believes that knows absoloutley nothing about Football and should not be allowed anywhere near Tynecastle....anyone with a tiny insight into proffesional football will know that some players need to be motivated...Jimmy Johnstone George Best.etc etc, they need coaxing and cajoling Roman Bednar looks like he is one of these players, and Mr Romanov with his total lack of Football Knowledge has let a diamond slip thru our hands here...we will be lucky to get ?500k for Bednar, anyone who saw RB under Burley will realise we had a special talent but Romanov knew better and punted the guy at a time when we are crying out for a goal scorer.Thanks Romanov u tube... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirk Diggler Posted January 15, 2008 Share Posted January 15, 2008 If we have a fee in place (which is low ie 1 - 1.5m) we could always just drag him back here then send him out on loan with someone else with us agreeing a higher fee (ie 3 - 3.5m). He still has 4 years to run on his contract does he not. The fee might be agreed but surely Hearts can pull the plug if they want to? After all, Clubs down south are now aware of what he is capable off, They weren't before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockyBalboa Posted January 15, 2008 Share Posted January 15, 2008 Cheers mate wasn't doubting you just hadn't heard that for sure. A real shame from our (not yours obv) point of view. Burley was on record as saying he was the best youngster he'd ever worked with. What a shame its ended how it has. Our loss is WBA's massive gain by the looks of things. Well done Vlad.... Aye no worries mate. The deal is WBA have an agreed price, if TM wants to keep him he stays. Bednars actually in the paper saying even if there is no deal with WBA there is no danger he is going back to Hearts. Like Bednar I think the same thing would happen with Elliot with the right club/management. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockyBalboa Posted January 15, 2008 Share Posted January 15, 2008 If we have a fee in place (which is low ie 1 - 1.5m) we could always just drag him back here then send him out on loan with someone else with us agreeing a higher fee (ie 3 - 3.5m). He still has 4 years to run on his contract does he not. The fee might be agreed but surely Hearts can pull the plug if they want to? After all, Clubs down south are now aware of what he is capable off, They weren't before. Couldnt see Hearts being able to pull the plug to be honest. Same kinda deal Hearts got with Kingston/Skacel I imagine, win some you lose some eh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Gosling Posted January 15, 2008 Share Posted January 15, 2008 IMO Bednar up front with Velika would be an awesome strike partnership. See, why is it when they played together last season, neither played particularly well? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stanley_ Posted January 15, 2008 Share Posted January 15, 2008 I'd say there's about as many threads now about Bednar scoring goals for West Brom as there was when he was scoring none for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Gosling Posted January 15, 2008 Share Posted January 15, 2008 Couldnt see Hearts being able to pull the plug to be honest. Same kinda deal Hearts got with Kingston/Skacel I imagine, win some you lose some eh. Hobonomics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IMA MAROON Posted January 15, 2008 Share Posted January 15, 2008 every time he scores surely the value rises !!!!! Spot on mate. A lot of teams will be in for him at the end of the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amoruso Lets it Run ... Posted January 15, 2008 Share Posted January 15, 2008 He was woeful at us because Marvyn ANdrews snapped him in half in the game we beat Rangers at Tynie - and he got away with it - maybe it was because he was a good Christian. It's a pity lard ass Nade isn't !!! .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockyBalboa Posted January 15, 2008 Share Posted January 15, 2008 Hobonomics. How come? You didnt see Skacels club (Marsillie?) pulling the plug when they knew they could get a better deal off Southampton because the deal was done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirk Diggler Posted January 15, 2008 Share Posted January 15, 2008 Couldnt see Hearts being able to pull the plug to be honest. Same kinda deal Hearts got with Kingston/Skacel I imagine, win some you lose some eh. Depends on the small print. It's the one area i would trust Vlad if i'm being honest. If he thinks he can make another million or so, Rest assured he'll do anything he can to do so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirk Diggler Posted January 15, 2008 Share Posted January 15, 2008 How come? You didnt see Skacels club (Marsillie?) pulling the plug when they knew they could get a better deal off Southampton because the deal was done. Are all loan deals exactly the same? Like I said it depends on the small print. You are not aware of that and neither is anyone else on here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IMA MAROON Posted January 15, 2008 Share Posted January 15, 2008 Bednar said: "It's too early to talk with the manager yet about my future. I'll have to look at the clubs on offer and choose the best one." The best one is the one were we get most money. Keep banging them in big man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirk Diggler Posted January 15, 2008 Share Posted January 15, 2008 Bednar said: "It's too early to talk with the manager yet about my future. I'll have to look at the clubs on offer and choose the best one." The best one is the one were we get most money. Keep banging them in big man. Correct. It hardly sounds like Bednar thinks it will only be a choice between Hearts and WBA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jaybee Posted January 15, 2008 Share Posted January 15, 2008 Are all loan deals exactly the same? Like I said it depends on the small print. You are not aware of that and neither is anyone else on here. ?500 k tops...Romanov couldnt wait to get him off the books, he'll be spewing its all went tits up.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dreamydays Posted January 15, 2008 Share Posted January 15, 2008 That's another one to his tally WBA 1- 0 Charlton. He had class written all over him from the start, demotivated by the end though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazo Posted January 15, 2008 Share Posted January 15, 2008 Can anyone show the this "fact" that it is a done deal with WBA ? I can honestly say i have not read anywhere that there is a agreement in place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IMA MAROON Posted January 15, 2008 Share Posted January 15, 2008 Correct. It hardly sounds like Bednar thinks it will only be a choice between Hearts and WBA. If he keeps scoring like he is then ?5 million is not out of the question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockyBalboa Posted January 15, 2008 Share Posted January 15, 2008 Depends on the small print. It's the one area i would trust Vlad if i'm being honest. If he thinks he can make another million or so, Rest assured he'll do anything he can to do so. Aye, very true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazo Posted January 15, 2008 Share Posted January 15, 2008 Correct. It hardly sounds like Bednar thinks it will only be a choice between Hearts and WBA. I don't think hearts are even in his options. The end of that quote finishes "one thing is for sure, i will not be returning to hearts". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Jambo Posted January 15, 2008 Share Posted January 15, 2008 Couldnt see Hearts being able to pull the plug to be honest. Same kinda deal Hearts got with Kingston/Skacel I imagine, win some you lose some eh. Surely as we are in the transfer window if another club were to offer us more money we could cancel the loan agreement and sell 'our' player to another club, or in your book a loan essentially mean that if they want to keep him they can, i don't remember Kingston/Skacel's old clubs saying they wanted them back at the end of their loan deal! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockyBalboa Posted January 15, 2008 Share Posted January 15, 2008 Surely as we are in the transfer window if another club were to offer us more money we could cancel the loan agreement and sell 'our' player to another club, or in your book a loan essentially mean that if they want to keep him they can, i don't remember Kingston/Skacel's old clubs saying they wanted them back at the end of their loan deal! No, but Skacel didnt have the chance to go direct to Southampton from Marsillie as the agreement with Hearts was already in place - same with Kingston. Dont you think Marsillie would have rather sold to Southampton for a million more? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
it_hearts Posted January 15, 2008 Share Posted January 15, 2008 Just noticed bednar has scored again for WB. Get him back to play with velicka. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alwaysthereinspirit Posted January 15, 2008 Share Posted January 15, 2008 He's not stupid enough to come back here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Gosling Posted January 15, 2008 Share Posted January 15, 2008 No, but Skacel didnt have the chance to go direct to Southampton from Marsillie as the agreement with Hearts was already in place - same with Kingston. Dont you think Marsillie would have rather sold to Southampton for a million more? Hearts took up a option for 2 more years on Skacel's contract that was agreed at the start of that season, it was different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.T.F.Robertson Posted January 15, 2008 Share Posted January 15, 2008 That's another one to his tally WBA 1- 0 Charlton. He had class written all over him from the start, demotivated by the end though Exactly!! To one degree or another, that also applies to most of the squad by now. Shame, you could see in the early days the potential he had and how he loved being at Tynie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirk Diggler Posted January 15, 2008 Share Posted January 15, 2008 I don't think hearts are even in his options. The end of that quote finishes "one thing is for sure, i will not be returning to hearts". I know that mate, I read it. I think Hearts could recall him whether he liked it or not though. He may be doing his utmost to ensure Hearts sell him right enough but by hearing what he had to say in that interview it doesn't sound like going to WBA is the only option. I've got a sneaky Vlad is holding all the aces on this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stanley_ Posted January 15, 2008 Share Posted January 15, 2008 Bednar thread no.72. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockyBalboa Posted January 15, 2008 Share Posted January 15, 2008 Hearts took up a option for 2 more years on Skacel's contract that was agreed at the start of that season, it was different. Ok Doke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Jambo Posted January 15, 2008 Share Posted January 15, 2008 No, but Skacel didnt have the chance to go direct to Southampton from Marsillie as the agreement with Hearts was already in place - same with Kingston. Dont you think Marsillie would have rather sold to Southampton for a million more? Depends as has been said about the 'small print' which vlad seems pretty clued up about, having had our fingers burnt by the lee miller episode I imagine any club loaning a player to hearts is pretty screwed down, given bednars poor form before going not sure that wba would have been as estute, maybe they were time will tell but i don't think it's a done deal if bednar is suggesting there may be other clubs interested. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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