Maroon Sailor Posted November 10, 2015 Share Posted November 10, 2015 Per the new protocol, children 10 and under will be barred from heading the ball during any official session ? practice or game ? while players ages 11 to 13 will be allowed to head the ball during games only. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bauld Posted November 10, 2015 Share Posted November 10, 2015 The balls they have these days it's like heading a pillow. Try heading a freshly pumped up mitre from the 90s in mid December after it was left outside on a frosty night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cambo_Jambo Posted November 10, 2015 Share Posted November 10, 2015 Per the new protocol, children 10 and under will be barred from heading the ball during any official session ? practice or game ? while players ages 11 to 13 will be allowed to head the ball during games only. While I'm sure that many will flip the lid at this, it's sensible. Sports (obviously more contact sports) are starting to learn more and more that head trauma is cumulative. The impact on kids brains which are less well protected means they are at much more risk. I mean, how many hear have been left feeling a little punch drunk from winning a header that was hit with venom or involved a clash of heads. Now they are saying that concussions are absolutely disastrous for your brain, I suppose this makes sense. Added bonus it though that those kids will through their formative years learn to play ball to feet rather than resorting to thumped balls at the tallest lad. SP that's a genuine step forward in terms of learning to play 'properly.' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cambo_Jambo Posted November 10, 2015 Share Posted November 10, 2015 The balls they have these days it's like heading a pillow. Try heading a freshly pumped up mitre from the 90s in mid December after it was left outside on a frosty night. Aye, A Mitre Tactic to the top of the head was enough to leave you wondering which way home was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Son Of Anarchy Posted November 10, 2015 Share Posted November 10, 2015 The balls they have these days it's like heading a pillow. Try heading a freshly pumped up mitre from the 90s in mid December after it was left outside on a frosty night. Or indeed a wet pigskin ball from much earlier. Football technology is incredible nowadays. Balls are so light I fail to see how they could cause brain damage or similar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maroon Sailor Posted November 10, 2015 Author Share Posted November 10, 2015 Interesting article here about heading balls affecting players in later life http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-26817099 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Masonic Posted November 10, 2015 Share Posted November 10, 2015 Aye, A Mitre Tactic to the top of the head was enough to leave you wondering which way home was. i remember heading those balls were like bricks especially in the cold if u didnt have boots on as well it was sore to even kick the thing thinking back to late 90s now how i would dive on concrete when in goals playing at lunchtime pretty hardcore to think back of it now lol but u didnt want to let any goals in so u just dived to save the ball anyways thats real football for the love of the game and winning Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reaths17 Posted November 10, 2015 Share Posted November 10, 2015 no heading, no tackling, we could just stand still pick the ball up and throw it, call it hand ball or some other arty farty name. if this is good then boxing has to stop forever. matial arts of all sorts, wrestling all that rolling about must give you a sore back eventually, mountaineering how more dangerous do you want, dangly thousands o feet up in the air on a string, unable to feel anything breath properly in the cold air. that lassie that went out in a wee boat and sailed round the world, how feckin irresponsible was that, in fact should we not be jailing these people for wilful suicide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fort Vallance Posted November 10, 2015 Share Posted November 10, 2015 Frank Kopel's wife apparently thinks it may have been contributory to his dementia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redm Posted November 10, 2015 Share Posted November 10, 2015 no heading, no tackling, we could just stand still pick the ball up and throw it, call it hand ball or some other arty farty name. if this is good then boxing has to stop forever. matial arts of all sorts, wrestling all that rolling about must give you a sore back eventually, mountaineering how more dangerous do you want, dangly thousands o feet up in the air on a string, unable to feel anything breath properly in the cold air. that lassie that went out in a wee boat and sailed round the world, how feckin irresponsible was that, in fact should we not be jailing these people for wilful suicide. Is the point not that brain health is completely essential for life whereas bone/muscle grumbles and other such mechanical things aren't? There's different degrees of risk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fort Vallance Posted November 10, 2015 Share Posted November 10, 2015 no heading, no tackling, we could just stand still pick the ball up and throw it, call it hand ball or some other arty farty name. if this is good then boxing has to stop forever. matial arts of all sorts, wrestling all that rolling about must give you a sore back eventually, mountaineering how more dangerous do you want, dangly thousands o feet up in the air on a string, unable to feel anything breath properly in the cold air. that lassie that went out in a wee boat and sailed round the world, how feckin irresponsible was that, in fact should we not be jailing these people for wilful suicide. And expecting volunteers to risk their lives and the state to fund their rescue if it goes pear shaped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Of The Cat Cafe Posted November 10, 2015 Share Posted November 10, 2015 Remember the days footballs had laces as well? When one of those worked loose it was like being lashed across the face with a whip... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Masonic Posted November 10, 2015 Share Posted November 10, 2015 no heading, no tackling, we could just stand still pick the ball up and throw it, call it hand ball or some other arty farty name. if this is good then boxing has to stop forever. matial arts of all sorts, wrestling all that rolling about must give you a sore back eventually, mountaineering how more dangerous do you want, dangly thousands o feet up in the air on a string, unable to feel anything breath properly in the cold air. that lassie that went out in a wee boat and sailed round the world, how feckin irresponsible was that, in fact should we not be jailing these people for wilful suicide. ur mom bro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cambo_Jambo Posted November 10, 2015 Share Posted November 10, 2015 While I'm sure that many will flip the lid at this, it's sensible. Sports (obviously more contact sports) are starting to learn more and more that head trauma is cumulative. The impact on kids brains which are less well protected means they are at much more risk. I mean, how many hear have been left feeling a little punch drunk from winning a header that was hit with venom or involved a clash of heads. Now they are saying that concussions are absolutely disastrous for your brain, I suppose this makes sense. Added bonus it though that those kids will through their formative years learn to play ball to feet rather than resorting to thumped balls at the tallest lad. SP that's a genuine step forward in terms of learning to play 'properly.' no heading, no tackling, we could just stand still pick the ball up and throw it, call it hand ball or some other arty farty name. if this is good then boxing has to stop forever. matial arts of all sorts, wrestling all that rolling about must give you a sore back eventually, mountaineering how more dangerous do you want, dangly thousands o feet up in the air on a string, unable to feel anything breath properly in the cold air. that lassie that went out in a wee boat and sailed round the world, how feckin irresponsible was that, in fact should we not be jailing these people for wilful suicide. Aye. Games gone soft eh? Unless kids are risking head injuries for no discernible reason there's no point in playing football. I'd point out that unless you're fighting at the upper levels, most combat sports insist on head guards. Similarly, you'd be lucky to find many mountaineers that don't wear helmets for serious climbs in touch conditions. I could argue that, given you can make minor changes to the game in order to facilitate this, getting kids to head the ball isn't really that important and won't have much effect on enjoyment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
highlandjambo3 Posted November 10, 2015 Share Posted November 10, 2015 The balls they have these days it's like heading a pillow. Try heading a freshly pumped up mitre from the 90s in mid December after it was left outside on a frosty night. Is that the one when wet you squared it with the forehead only for the sides of the ball to fold round your face and smack you in the back of the head??...............bit like Alien face hugger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reaths17 Posted November 10, 2015 Share Posted November 10, 2015 Is the point not that brain health is completely essential for life whereas bone/muscle grumbles and other such mechanical things aren't? There's different degrees of risk. we all have free choice to make our own decisions, fair enough being made aware of the dangers but you have to take part in life, every day theres summit that's not good for you, take away all the food stuffs they've said are bad for you over the years and you'd be struggling to get a glass of healthy water. do you need a perfect brain, for never coming out the womb, we've gotta live even with all lifes dangers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reaths17 Posted November 10, 2015 Share Posted November 10, 2015 Aye. Games gone soft eh? Unless kids are risking head injuries for no discernible reason there's no point in playing football. I'd point out that unless you're fighting at the upper levels, most combat sports insist on head guards. Similarly, you'd be lucky to find many mountaineers that don't wear helmets for serious climbs in touch conditions. I could argue that, given you can make minor changes to the game in order to facilitate this, getting kids to head the ball isn't really that important and won't have much effect on enjoyment. is it easy living life wrapped in cotton wool, it's almost impossible to be a kid in this world, climb a tree by the time you get all the safety equipment out the fun will have well and truly shot the craw, fukit just lock them up in a room with a playstation, i'm sure that will keep their brains nice and safe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dayman Posted November 10, 2015 Share Posted November 10, 2015 Got a link for this info? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sexton Hardcastle Posted November 10, 2015 Share Posted November 10, 2015 In true American style it's probably them saving from any future legal cases like the current ones in American football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazzas right boot Posted November 10, 2015 Share Posted November 10, 2015 Kids at that age should be encouraged to play with ball at feet anyway. The thing is, if you haven't headed a ball for 2\3 years then start, will that not cause problems for the brain and the quality of future America centre half's! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reaths17 Posted November 10, 2015 Share Posted November 10, 2015 In true American style it's probably them saving from any future legal cases like the current ones in American football. or health and safety trying to justify their existence. wait till the snp's child spies start getting about, you wont be able to move for fear of endangering summit in a health n safety manual Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maroon Sailor Posted November 10, 2015 Author Share Posted November 10, 2015 Got a link for this info? http://soccer.nbcsports.com/2015/11/09/no-more-heading-us-soccer-unveils-new-concussion-protocol-for-youth-soccer/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colinmaroon Posted November 10, 2015 Share Posted November 10, 2015 The balls they have these days it's like heading a pillow. Try heading a freshly pumped up mitre from the 90s in mid December after it was left outside on a frosty night. Or the dreaded lace! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo-Jimbo Posted November 10, 2015 Share Posted November 10, 2015 The balls they have these days it's like heading a pillow. Try heading a freshly pumped up mitre from the 90s in mid December after it was left outside on a frosty night. In the 70's when our plastic ball had burst we had to make do with an empty can or plastic bottle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jambo Janny Posted November 10, 2015 Share Posted November 10, 2015 Or the dreaded lace!And it left an imprint on the forehead for a day and a half. The old lacer was like a medicine ball when wet as well, near broke my ankle kicking the fekker on a wet and cold Saturday morning at schoolboy matches, and then we would play 'heidie' in the street for hours too, maybe that explains why I am now a forgetful 66 yr old (that's what I'll tell the wife anyway) but on a serious note I dare say there could be some danger for young kids doing too much heading the ball so maybe there should be some caution shown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Son Of Anarchy Posted November 10, 2015 Share Posted November 10, 2015 In true American style it's probably them saving from any future legal cases like the current ones in American football..This was my first thought too. My brother in law coaches a female "soccer" team and agrees. Its all about the money, sorry health Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmfc_liam06 Posted November 10, 2015 Share Posted November 10, 2015 no heading, no tackling, we could just stand still pick the ball up and throw it, call it hand ball or some other arty farty name. if this is good then boxing has to stop forever. matial arts of all sorts, wrestling all that rolling about must give you a sore back eventually, mountaineering how more dangerous do you want, dangly thousands o feet up in the air on a string, unable to feel anything breath properly in the cold air. that lassie that went out in a wee boat and sailed round the world, how feckin irresponsible was that, in fact should we not be jailing these people for wilful suicide. FSS man chill out, it's only at under 10 level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1953 Posted November 10, 2015 Share Posted November 10, 2015 From what I remember when I was coaching an under 12's team some years ago most of them avoided heading the ball anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
primrose Posted November 10, 2015 Share Posted November 10, 2015 Per the new protocol, children 10 and under will be barred from heading the ball during any official session ? practice or game ? while players ages 11 to 13 will be allowed to head the ball during games only. They have banned a few really dangerous e numbers as well lately. But you can still go into Walmart and buy an automatic rifle with a 100 clip magazine and fire it off at 15 rounds a second. But hey don't head the ball son, you might get killed!! FFS!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddiepolio Posted November 10, 2015 Share Posted November 10, 2015 When we were younger playing football up the park, there would pretty much be a point every time when we would take in turns to boot the ball as high in the air as we could to each other to see if the other boy would shat out of heading it. I would say happy memories but it is a wee bit fuzzy.......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jambo19 Posted November 10, 2015 Share Posted November 10, 2015 Per the new protocol, children 10 and under will be barred from heading the ball during any official session ? practice or game ? while players ages 11 to 13 will be allowed to head the ball during games only. Seems fair, u10s should be getting used to ball at feet anyway. The problem with 11-13 is that heading in games only means there's not been practice or training or how to head a ball properly. More chance of letting it hit you or head it on the top of your head instead of the forehead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maggieb Posted November 10, 2015 Share Posted November 10, 2015 Per the new protocol, children 10 and under will be barred from heading the ball during any official session ? practice or game ? while players ages 11 to 13 will be allowed to head the ball during games only.Where there is blame there is a claim,can I be the first on the long list of JKB members to .... Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bauld Posted November 10, 2015 Share Posted November 10, 2015 Is that the one when wet you squared it with the forehead only for the sides of the ball to fold round your face and smack you in the back of the head??...............bit like Alien face hugger That was during the summer. It did that if you were lucky. In the dead of winter the ball didn't flex at all. It was like a hollow cannon ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bert Le Clos Posted November 10, 2015 Share Posted November 10, 2015 Agree that it could be looked upon as a positive if it encourages playing the ball along the ground. If they think there's any link between dementia and heading a ball frequently as a child then it can't really be said this is a bad thing TBH. Although I wonder why U11s and U13s is the chosen age? Is there any evidence more damage is done by headering a ball up to age 13? Could have interesting implications on the rest of youth football and the adult game if it's thought heading is a significant contributory factor to dementia. My gran has it though, and as far as I can tell she was never a centre half. I can mind playing football for an hour in the games hall at school with a basketball when a supply teacher never turned up and the footballs were locked away Lucky no one died. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perth to Paisley Posted November 10, 2015 Share Posted November 10, 2015 Still got a mark from a mould master - 40 years on! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perth to Paisley Posted November 10, 2015 Share Posted November 10, 2015 The Joy of Six: great footballs http://gu.com/p/22fdh?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Email Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambof3tornado Posted November 10, 2015 Share Posted November 10, 2015 Heading the ball isnt an issue for me but treatment after a head clash is important to get right. Not convinced by any evidence linking dementia etc to heading footballs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WoolfordsHearts Posted November 10, 2015 Share Posted November 10, 2015 I headed many a Mitre Mouldmaster ball on the ash parks of Livingston and it never harm did any me to... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perth to Paisley Posted November 10, 2015 Share Posted November 10, 2015 Having read some of your previous posts; are you sure? Joking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peebo Posted November 10, 2015 Share Posted November 10, 2015 In true American style it's probably them saving from any future legal cases like the current ones in American football. Yup, probably true enough. But probably worth noting that many dangerous practices, products etc. have disappeared as a result of lawsuits. So not necessarily a bad thing. Maybe someone should sue a gun manufacturer in response to a gun death. Oh, wait a minute... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shanks Posted November 10, 2015 Share Posted November 10, 2015 May as well just remove corner kicks from the game. Stupid rule. Won't be long until they start 'touch soccer' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlimOzturk Posted November 10, 2015 Share Posted November 10, 2015 Once got knocked out completely after being smacked a cracker from a miter while playing crossy/hot arse. Woke up about 5 mins later with my dad in a panic. Had a bad cuncussion but apart from that i am fine djdhsiejdjdjdjsjsj Yeah wjere was going with this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samster Posted November 10, 2015 Share Posted November 10, 2015 In true American style it's probably them saving from any future legal cases like the current ones in American football. You should Google Dave Duerson and Junior Seau. 2 former NFL players who each shot themselves in the chest so their brains could be studied for trauma (Duerson left a note and although Seau did not it's thought he had a similar wish). It was discovered both men had chronic traumatic encephalopathy (CTE). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maroon Sailor Posted November 10, 2015 Author Share Posted November 10, 2015 https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=8DVqMclCK4w Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peebo Posted November 10, 2015 Share Posted November 10, 2015 You should Google Dave Duerson and Junior Seau. 2 former NFL players who each shot themselves in the chest so their brains could be studied for trauma (Duerson left a note and although Seau did not it's thought he had a similar wish). It was discovered both men had chronic traumatic encephalopathy (CTE). While I get your sentiment (i.e. that head injuries from sport are a big issue in the US), it's probably a bit of a stretch to state that they killed themselves in order to allow their brains to be studied. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Burgundy Posted November 10, 2015 Share Posted November 10, 2015 Toe bashes will be banned next. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bauld Posted November 10, 2015 Share Posted November 10, 2015 Toe bashes will be banned next. Walking down a street one day and saw a football lying on the path up ahead. Stuck the toe bash right into it. Local dickheads had cut it open and filled it with stones. Big toe shattered like glass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slim Anus Posted November 10, 2015 Share Posted November 10, 2015 Remember Jimmy Boco got knocked spark out by the ball from a free kick? might have even happened twice in the same game? he was never the same Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUTOL Posted November 10, 2015 Share Posted November 10, 2015 do you need a perfect brain, You see to prove you don't. To function at your level at least. Header a lot of balls as a kid? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazzas right boot Posted November 10, 2015 Share Posted November 10, 2015 Next they will be banning "sting " Ahh the memories Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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