Clerry Jambo Posted October 16, 2015 Share Posted October 16, 2015 Robbie pointing out he has a hard choice picking his midfield out of 5/6 players....... Well, thats your job Robbie son!! i understand he will try and keep everyone happy which to be fair is near impossible, but should he decide what "his" best 2/3 are and play them when fit, or continually chop and change? Personally would go for the former, thoughts? http://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hearts/keeping-hearts-midfielders-happy-is-tough-neilson-1-3918302 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cigaro Posted October 16, 2015 Share Posted October 16, 2015 I'd like a settled midfield where possible. Buaben isn't doing it for me right now so I'd have Gomis and Pallardo in. I'd like to see what Djoum can do too. Sent from my SM-G920F using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmfc_liam06 Posted October 16, 2015 Share Posted October 16, 2015 Gomis and Pallardo sitting with Swanson playing off them would be my preference for Sunday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boris Posted October 16, 2015 Share Posted October 16, 2015 I'd prefer to settle on a pairing/triumvirate and keep consistency. That said...do we have a system that all theplayers should be aware of and so should be able to fit into when asked? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Internet Posted October 16, 2015 Share Posted October 16, 2015 Anderson and Buaben imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juan Rom?n Riquelme Posted October 16, 2015 Share Posted October 16, 2015 Buaben has played his way out the side with his recent performances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingantti1874 Posted October 16, 2015 Share Posted October 16, 2015 Gomis and Pallardo sitting with Swanson playing off them would be my preference for Sunday. This... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mainstandjambo Posted October 16, 2015 Share Posted October 16, 2015 Gomis and Pallardo sitting with Swanson playing off them would be my preference for Sunday. Totally agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Son Of Anarchy Posted October 16, 2015 Share Posted October 16, 2015 Gomis and Pallardo sitting with Swanson playing off them would be my preference for Sunday. 100% this ^^^^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chester copperpot Posted October 16, 2015 Share Posted October 16, 2015 Pallardo/Gomis Next Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DG_HMFC Posted October 16, 2015 Share Posted October 16, 2015 From having to play Sean McKirdy a few weeks back to now having too many options. That's the joy of football management. We have now got, imo, a midfield that should be dominating games at this level. Admittedly I've not seen much of Djoum, but you don't rack up that many appearances in the top division in Holland if you haven't got something about you. The Gomis - Buaben partnership is being found out at this level, and there is very little creativity and urgency from our midfield when those two play. I want Robbie to mix it up on Sunday. With only two fit first team strikers, I'd like to see just 1 starting with a central and attacking midfield 3 of Djoum, Pallardo and Swanson; Walker and Nicholson out wide. Sent from my SM-G920F using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jammy T Posted October 16, 2015 Share Posted October 16, 2015 I think we should settle down into a 3 man central midfield unit to be honest. Ahead of that two 'wide' attackers and one central striker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RudiHMFC Posted October 16, 2015 Share Posted October 16, 2015 Hopefully legion of Djoum is better than Buaben then i'd have him and Gomis, if he's crap then pallardo and Gomis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YMWrules Posted October 16, 2015 Share Posted October 16, 2015 Anderson and Buaben imo. Yeah I agree,2 absoloute quality midfielders.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HMFC86 Posted October 16, 2015 Share Posted October 16, 2015 Gomis and Pallardo sitting with Swanson playing off them would be my preference for Sunday. 100% agree with this. I like Bauben but don't think he had been playing well. Think Gomis & Pallardo are our best midfielders, but both quite one paced so would like to see Swanson playing in front of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
We_are_the_Hearts Posted October 16, 2015 Share Posted October 16, 2015 While Pallardo and Gomis are good players our midfield wasn't as good when they played in the same team. Time will tell if they can get a partnership going. Would like to see what Djoum can offer as seems the box to box type. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lost in space Posted October 16, 2015 Share Posted October 16, 2015 Incredible - we have only 2 forwards available (only 3 at the club) and have started 2 forwards recently. The other forward is banned and has no experience at this level anyway. Yet we have too many midfield players. Who did we sign recently?? Another midfield player. Do these guys not talk to each other??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YMWrules Posted October 16, 2015 Share Posted October 16, 2015 Incredible - we have only 2 forwards available (only 3 at the club) and have started 2 forwards recently. The other forward is banned and has no experience at this level anyway. Yet we have too many midfield players. Who did we sign recently?? Another midfield player. Do these guys not talk to each other??? Could problaby lose 3 of they midfielders and replace them with 1 quality one,we have far too many bang average midfielders at this club and not much quality apart from Sow and Juanma on his game up top. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tasavallan Posted October 16, 2015 Share Posted October 16, 2015 Robbie is the originator of his own problems. Injuries during the summer forced his hand. At the beginning of the season injuries to Pallardo and Bauben and the lack of confidence in Anderson meant having to play McKirdy (and on one occasion Ozturk) in midfield. So, Swanson was signed, then Djoum. Bauben and subsequently Pallardo regained fitness so Hearts have now 6 midfielder (excluding Walker, Nicholson and King). The issue for me id that by play 2 strikers in Sow and Juanma, and one from either Walker, Nicholson or King playing as one of the midfielders reduces selection to 3 midfielders from 6. Personally, I would rather see Sow and Juanma alternate as the sole striker with one from Walker, Nicholson or King alongside This would enable Robbie to select 4 true midfielders in a diamond formation: Pallardo Buaben/Gomis Djoum/Gomis Swanson/Walker Nicholson/King Sow/Juanma Whatever, Robbie is getting paid to select the strongest midfield. he should do so and stick with it. All this rotating of players just disrupts the team's performance. It might be different if the squad was made up of all top performers. But they are not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle Buck Posted October 16, 2015 Share Posted October 16, 2015 Pallardo and Gomis are the best two footballers at the club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
We_are_the_Hearts Posted October 16, 2015 Share Posted October 16, 2015 Pallardo and Gomis are the best two footballers at the club.But can they play together? On last seasons evidence i would say its debatable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Debut 4 Posted October 16, 2015 Share Posted October 16, 2015 I think we need a midfielder who has a more balanced game. Gomis and Pallardo offer great security and are good a keeping the ball but don't really offer in an attacking sense. They are undoubtedly our best two CMs and would be my choice but it means we continually ask other areas to offer threat. I'm not into the idea of Swanson as part of a 3 because who do you drop? Walker and Nicholson combined really well v Killie and look on form. I personally would like to see us continue with Sow and Juanma as we really should be out to put United on the back foot from the start as they are struggling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Never Let Them Forget Posted October 16, 2015 Share Posted October 16, 2015 Pallardo and Gomis are the best two footballers at the club. Would also add Sow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HMFC86 Posted October 16, 2015 Share Posted October 16, 2015 But can they play together? On last seasons evidence i would say its debatable I think they can as long as they have a more attacking midfielder like Swanson ahead of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
We_are_the_Hearts Posted October 16, 2015 Share Posted October 16, 2015 I think they can as long as they have a more attacking midfielder like Swanson ahead of them. You might be right, only time will tell. Even in his wee spell at Parkhead Djoum showed he will get around the park and was furthest forward when wee Sam got brought down. Hopefully get to see what he can offer soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the big show Posted October 16, 2015 Share Posted October 16, 2015 I know Bauben has not being playing well all be it he has been playing with a niggle and i have been critical of him myself and thought he should have been taking of at half time against killie , but watching him yesterday was like watching a new player some of the runs and stuff he was doing yesterday was outstanding at times , if its anything to go on and i'm not saying it is but there were 5 players who really stuck out at training for me and they were Bauben , Gomis , swanson , Sow , Rossi - now add to the fact that management really rate Bauben and have all ready kept Pallardo on the bench last season and this unless either gomis or bauben was injured for me i can't see it happening , only my opinion i'm not 100% certain what the team will be but i reckon Bauben will be playing on what i seen . my team would be .... alexander , mcGee , rossi , blaze , juwan , gomis , bauben , swanson , walker , nicholson , sow . and go at them right from the start . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown user Posted October 16, 2015 Share Posted October 16, 2015 From having to play Sean McKirdy a few weeks back to now having too many options. That's the joy of football management. We have now got, imo, a midfield that should be dominating games at this level. Admittedly I've not seen much of Djoum, but you don't rack up that many appearances in the top division in Holland if you haven't got something about you. The Gomis - Buaben partnership is being found out at this level, and there is very little creativity and urgency from our midfield when those two play. I want Robbie to mix it up on Sunday. With only two fit first team strikers, I'd like to see just 1 starting with a central and attacking midfield 3 of Djoum, Pallardo and Swanson; Walker and Nicholson out wide. Sent from my SM-G920F using Tapatalk I get why you're saying that but we shouldn't forget hibs thought the same with Edwin de Graaf and he just didn't turn up in scotland despite a good reputation in the eredivisie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
williejamiesonlesftfoot Posted October 16, 2015 Share Posted October 16, 2015 How good would a Colin Cameron be right now eh? hehe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown user Posted October 16, 2015 Share Posted October 16, 2015 How good would a Colin Cameron be right now eh? hehe God we'd destroy this league with him in the team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
williejamiesonlesftfoot Posted October 16, 2015 Share Posted October 16, 2015 We would. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alva-Jambo Posted October 16, 2015 Share Posted October 16, 2015 Our first squad pool, say 16? players, has been imbalanced. There is lots of firepower, maybe more than since 2004. Defence has been weakest recently. ergo, Robbie's main headache should be defence not midfield - shurley? Also the man who should be skipper is out recovering from his op. I dont think we will have an easy time a Tannadichi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CollyWolly Posted October 16, 2015 Share Posted October 16, 2015 Pallardo/Gomis Next Despite the fact that playing 2 similar holders has caused us problems all season ? Its made us pedestrian in the middle of the park because neither steps forward and neither plays with any tempo and its made us vulnerable at full back because neither has the engine to cover wide areas. Great ball winners, lovely passers, good vision, but we they both just sit and we need a bit more from central midfield IMO We need a runner who can play with tempo, pass, move, penetrate and link with the more forward midfield players and the striker That would be Swanson.(or Djoum maybe) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmfc_liam06 Posted October 16, 2015 Share Posted October 16, 2015 The defence picks itself. Paterson Augustyn Rossi Oshaniwa No headaches there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmfc_liam06 Posted October 16, 2015 Share Posted October 16, 2015 Wait...Gomis doesn't have a good engine? Where's that Kello stare GIF when you need it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the big show Posted October 16, 2015 Share Posted October 16, 2015 The defence picks itself. Paterson Augustyn Rossi Oshaniwa No headaches there. Patterson is suspended . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmfc_liam06 Posted October 16, 2015 Share Posted October 16, 2015 Patterson is suspended . Sorry I thought the conversation was more general based rather than for this weekend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CollyWolly Posted October 16, 2015 Share Posted October 16, 2015 Wait...Gomis doesn't have a good engine? Where's that Kello stare GIF when you need it. Is he a box to box midfielder all of a sudden ? You could draw a 25 metre diameter circle in our half and you'd rarely see him leave it. He rarely moves wide to cover. He rarely attacks with the ball. He doesn't have the engine for it. He has zero pace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
We_are_the_Hearts Posted October 16, 2015 Share Posted October 16, 2015 Is he a box to box midfielder all of a sudden ? You could draw a 25 metre diameter circle in our half and you'd rarely see him leave it. He rarely moves wide to cover. He rarely attacks with the ball. He doesn't have the engine for it. He has zero pace. What? Gomis has a huge engine, the amount of work he puts in is unrivalled in our team. He could maybe get forward more but to say he doesn't have an engine is wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CollyWolly Posted October 16, 2015 Share Posted October 16, 2015 What? Gomis has a huge engine, the amount of work he puts in is unrivalled in our team. He could maybe get forward more but to say he doesn't have an engine is wrong. He works hard. That's for sure. He is not capable of lung bursting penetrating runs. You need an engine for that. He doesn't have it. He is a limited player. Good at what he does. Sometimes very good, but limited nonetheless. We can get away with one of those in our midfield, in fact we need one of those in our midfield and it would definitely be him you'd pick. Playing two of those is limiting our attacking options and making us over cautious and less threatening than we might otherwise be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
We_are_the_Hearts Posted October 16, 2015 Share Posted October 16, 2015 He works hard. That's for sure. He is not capable of lung bursting penetrating runs. You need an engine for that. He doesn't have it. He is a limited player. Good at what he does. Sometimes very good, but limited nonetheless. We can get away with one of those in our midfield, in fact we need one of those in our midfield and it would definitely be him you'd pick. Playing two of those is limiting our attacking options and making us over cautious and less threatening than we might otherwise be. Will be interesting to see the team on Sunday as we have 5 midfielders going for 3 places. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CollyWolly Posted October 16, 2015 Share Posted October 16, 2015 Will be interesting to see the team on Sunday as we have 5 midfielders going for 3 places. Or 4 places maybe ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
We_are_the_Hearts Posted October 16, 2015 Share Posted October 16, 2015 Or 4 places maybe ? I reckon Walker, Sow and Juanma will start so probably 3 unless he plays Swanson wide and has a solid midfield 3. Find out soon enough Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Debut 4 Posted October 16, 2015 Share Posted October 16, 2015 Will be interesting to see the team on Sunday as we have 5 midfielders going for 3 places.i hope I'm totally wrong but you know Neilson, he'll be worrying about the new manager effect at Dundee Utd instead of motivating his players to believe in their game and take it to them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spencer Posted October 16, 2015 Share Posted October 16, 2015 Pallardo and Gomis are the best two footballers at the club. Yes they are indeed. Gomis imo is our most important player Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smithy Posted October 16, 2015 Share Posted October 16, 2015 play all of them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
We_are_the_Hearts Posted October 16, 2015 Share Posted October 16, 2015 i hope I'm totally wrong but you know Neilson, he'll be worrying about the new manager effect at Dundee Utd instead of motivating his players to believe in their game and take it to them. That's been my biggest disappointment in away games this season. Slow start, slow tempo, looking to stop the opposition. We should be going out looking to dictate the game, play at a high tempo and let them worry about us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spencer Posted October 16, 2015 Share Posted October 16, 2015 i hope I'm totally wrong but you know Neilson, he'll be worrying about the new manager effect at Dundee Utd instead of motivating his players to believe in their game and take it to them. Imagine what folk would make of Neilson if he hadn't had the temerity to win the league last season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Debut 4 Posted October 16, 2015 Share Posted October 16, 2015 Imagine what folk would make of Neilson if he hadn't had the temerity to win the league last season.not quite sure what you are getting at but i'd say people can change, people can evolve into something different when the environment changes, when the challenge becomes harder. Neilson on the face of it looked a confident boss last season but the opposition was weaker. I'm not saying for one minute he won't become a really good manager, after all he's finding out himself the what the challenges are of the SPL and where he needs to improve but I can't help feel he's been a little too cautious in some matches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spencer Posted October 16, 2015 Share Posted October 16, 2015 not quite sure what you are getting at but i'd say people can change, people can evolve into something different when the environment changes, when the challenge becomes harder. Neilson on the face of it looked a confident boss last season but the opposition was weaker. I'm not saying for one minute he won't become a really good manager, after all he's finding out himself the what the challenges are of the SPL and where he needs to improve but I can't help feel he's been a little too cautious in some matches. 17 months ago we were in Administration. Since then we've pished a league by over 20 points which included Hibs and Rangers and a win on Sunday will see us 3rd having played everyone. I think we're progressing reasonably well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CollyWolly Posted October 16, 2015 Share Posted October 16, 2015 i hope I'm totally wrong but you know Neilson, he'll be worrying about the new manager effect at Dundee Utd instead of motivating his players to believe in their game and take it to them. Track record this season suggests you are right. As conservative and solid a midfield as he can possibly pick and one up front. Gomis Pallardo Swanson Walker Nicholson/King Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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