Questions For Radio Show Presenter

[Mr Sifter]

Mark, what is going on?

 

Ive listened to you for about a week now, loudly proclaiming MM's arrival, as though you had managed some fantastic "scoop".

 

What evidence did you have?

 

I usually take everything in the press with a pinch of salt. Have done for about 18 months now. But the manner in which you have conveyed this "breaking story" this last week has actually allowed me some real optimism. It was your insistant take on it that gave me that optimism.

 

So why? Why were you so convinced? What info did you have to make you SO sure? I mean, although a lot of punters on here were probably as "sure" as you, they didn't broadcast it on the radio.

 

In the back of my mind, Im actually sure this story may not be finished yet. Im not too sure why, I may be wrong. But in the meantime, I want to know what made YOU so sure it was happening, and what YOU know about this "u-turn".

 

This is not a dig for a digs sake, but you, and only you, are the reason I started looking at next season with a degree of certainty. I know you are a regular on here, so hopefully you will be able to reply.

 

Cheers.

 

ps mods- I know you're not meant to start threads about other members, but as I reckon others out there would like to know the score, I'd hope you'd treat this as an exception. Ta

[Mild-Mannered James]

From what I can gather, Mark was pretty accurate up until Boyle made his phonecall.

[Spellczech]

Come on. We all know these things can happen. Vlad?s own PA insisted to me on Saturday night that McGhee was coming. She was genuine enough. Things just don?t always pan out...

[Mr Sifter]

From what I can gather, Mark was pretty accurate up until Boyle made his phonecall.

 

Well he was saying it was a "done deal" before any flights were mentioned.

 

So if it was a done deal, why the flight in the first place? If it was as "done" a "deal" as donkey said, surely he'd know exactly WHY MM was flying out......

[Mr Sifter]

Come on. We all know these things can happen. Vlad?s own PA insisted to me on Saturday night that McGhee was coming. She was genuine enough. Things just don?t always pan out...

 

Genuine enough to broadcast it on radio? Anyway, you were pished.....

[eddie fenwick]

From what I can gather, Mark was pretty accurate up until Boyle made his phonecall.

 

after speaking to an ex player(someone VERY well respected)i would say the same thing

[Flux]

I heard him on the radio say that Mole was going to Inverness

[Mr Sifter]

Well if donkey, and this ex player are both right.............something stinks.

 

No danger has MM punted us, on the strengh of a phonecall, at the airport, when in fact it was a done deal with us.

 

This may have legs, Im tellin you.....

[haggis58]

It looks like MM has used the media and Hearts, to broker a deal with Motherwell and increase his salary for next season. :sad:

[eddie fenwick]

Well if donkey, and this ex player are both right.............something stinks.

 

No danger has MM punted us, on the strengh of a phonecall, at the airport, when in fact it was a done deal with us.

 

This may have legs, Im tellin you.....

 

think you may be right

[Guest GhostHunter]

Have renamed the thread as I dont think it's fair on Donkey when he obviously cant get on just now to answer the questions...

 

He's probably as much in the overall dark as we all are, and has only reported what he believed to be the situation....

[Charlie-Brown]

What's this about Mole to Inverness? Loan / transfer / pesh? Which 'manager' decided this if true?

[Guest JamboRobbo]

What's this about Mole to Inverness? Loan / transfer / pesh? Which 'manager' decided this if true?

 

Probably the same one that decided on contracts for Basso/Pinilla etc........and the same one thats got us to 8th in the league on a budget that should see us stroll to 3rd with room to spare.....

[Charlie-Brown]

Probably the same one that decided on contracts for Basso/Pinilla etc........and the same one thats got us to 8th in the league on a budget that should see us stroll to 3rd with room to spare.....

 

The same one that will reportedly decide Clum's future then?

[Guest JamboRobbo]

The same one that will reportedly decide Clum's future then?

 

I guess so. I was hoping we might get a real one before then.

[eddie fenwick]

The same one that will reportedly decide Clum's future then?

 

thats it,vlad demanded mm played clum and he told him not to be so silly,lets blame clum;)

[jambojim52]

I haven't seen it anywhere yet. But I thought it was reported the MM was only getting 80% charge of the team. can anyone confirm?

[Paris 84]

Mark, what is going on?

 

Ive listened to you for about a week now, loudly proclaiming MM's arrival, as though you had managed some fantastic "scoop".

 

What evidence did you have? (Quote=Mr Sifter)

 

Have a go at the guy for something where he has made an 4rse of himself, but not this story!! I've got to say when MM started to make comments to confirm the story, I along with every other fitba' supporter in Scotland expected him to be the next manager. If VR can't give him the assurances he wants or Motherwell have come up with the package to match the alleged ?350k p.a., why blame the reporter? Surely that's what he is in business to do!!!

[monkfish1979]

I haven't seen it anywhere yet. But I thought it was reported the MM was only getting 80% charge of the team. can anyone confirm?

 

Define 80% control.

[ToadKiller Dog]

Was the 80% not something made up on here a few months back in reference to Frails power as coach?

 

As for Donkey he does look a bit ewen cameronish at the moment but i dont think he is to blame his sources in fact most thought it was a done deal but mcghee for reasons not stated yet said no all donkey is guilty off is jumping the gun.

[Bootboy100]

Well if donkey, and this ex player are both right.............something stinks.

 

No danger has MM punted us, on the strengh of a phonecall, at the airport, when in fact it was a done deal with us.

 

This may have legs, Im tellin you.....

 

Spoke to my journo mate who says the exact same as Donkey.

 

He may have agreed something with Motherwell however whether or not something has been signed is a very very different matter.

 

This is almost ala Jim Jeffries situation all over again.

 

Until its signed then it aint over.

[Makween]

I don't see the problem. There was obviously substance in what he said, and something's obviously gone wrong with it somewhere along the line. If you're looking for someone to "blame" for this, I think that there are two more obvious culprits - either Romanov's not given into McGhee's demands or McGhee was just trying to engineer a better deal at Motherwell all along. Going mental at a radio show presenter for doing his job seems a bit weird.

[Mr Sifter]

Mark' date=' what is going on?

 

Ive listened to you for about a week now, loudly proclaiming MM's arrival, as though you had managed some fantastic "scoop".

 

What evidence did you have? (Quote=Mr Sifter)

 

[b']Have a go at the guy[/b] for something where he has made an 4rse of himself, but not this story!! I've got to say when MM started to make comments to confirm the story, I along with every other fitba' supporter in Scotland expected him to be the next manager. If VR can't give him the assurances he wants or Motherwell have come up with the package to match the alleged ?350k p.a., why blame the reporter? Surely that's what he is in business to do!!!

 

All due respect, but Im not having a go at all at him.....

 

Look at your own post. You've mentioned Mark McGhee starting to make comments "to confirm the story". But thats all his comments done. Stated that we were interested. No more than that. Certainly not that it was almost a done deal.

 

It was Donkey that told us that.

 

Either MM has shafted Hearts at the very very last turn, or Donkey was counting his chickens long before they hatched.

 

Either way......not good enough.

[Mr Sifter]

I don't see the problem. There was obviously substance in what he said, and something's obviously gone wrong with it somewhere along the line. If you're looking for someone to "blame" for this, I think that there are two more obvious culprits - either Romanov's not given into McGhee's demands or McGhee was just trying to engineer a better deal at Motherwell all along. Going mental at a radio show presenter for doing his job seems a bit weird.

 

Makween, Ive said it before mate........Im not havin a pop at Donkey!!!

 

I'd like to know whats going on, cos the turn of events just doesnt sit right with me.

 

If this comes across as having a pop at donkey, the mods will step in. I'd like to think it's not coming across like that, cos thats honestly not where I comin from:)

[Shaggy2]

Was the 80% not something made up on here a few months back in reference to Frails power as coach?

 

As for Donkey he does look a bit ewen cameronish at the moment but i dont think he is to blame his sources in fact most thought it was a done deal but mcghee for reasons not stated yet said no all donkey is guilty off is jumping the gun.

 

Surely that deserves a ban???

 

Nobody should suffer a comparison to You-Hun Cameron!!!

 

Personally didn't want Mark McGhee as he his a one season wonder and is far too "Celtic minded" for my liking. Levein, JJ, Davies or even Robbo are better options. As long as it's someone who knows football and is allowed to work without interference.

[hmfc_steve]

Have renamed the thread as I dont think it's fair on Donkey when he obviously cant get on just now to answer the questions...

 

He's probably as much in the overall dark as we all are, and has only reported what he believed to be the situation....

 

what ! ... you mean he knows the square root of feck all like the majority of us ?

[hmfc_steve]

Makween, Ive said it before mate........Im not havin a pop at Donkey!!!

 

I'd like to know whats going on, cos the turn of events just doesnt sit right with me.

 

If this comes across as having a pop at donkey, the mods will step in. I'd like to think it's not coming across like that, cos thats honestly not where I comin from:)

 

well I'm of the opinion that he's a radio presenter, and he'll speel any old bollox to increase ratings. If I claimed a 'done' deal at my work.... and it wasn't ... think I know where I'd stand

[Spellczech]

Genuine enough to broadcast it on radio? Anyway, you were pished.....

 

What makes you think that? and broadcasting on radio is the guy?s job...

[Mr Sifter]

The longer the night goes on, the more I think that Donkey was spot on at the time.

 

No offence donkey, at least my questions were posed in a nice manner ha ha:p

 

The MM situation has not changed at any point tonight. He's still got another year with Motherwell. He is still to talk to us, and he has signed nothing with anybody yet.

 

That being the case, the "done deal" might yet still be on.....

[redm]

This place drives me nuts at times. There seems to be some overwhelming culture of finger pointing and looking for someone to blame every time something goes slightly wrong...We've had a mental few days of to'ing and fro'ing with McGhee and it's unbelievable that in amongst it all, there are some who don't seem to give two hoots what's happening as long as they have a bookmark of some ancient old post someone made which contradicts something they said more recently. WTF? It's mental! 'I told you so' won't matter one bit when we do or don't get a manager and in the grand scheme of things - who cares?! We all just want a bloody manager.

 

It doesn't matter who said what - if they're Jambos I'm quite sure they probably meant to share information they felt was correct at the time and surely that's all you can ask? Carry on this way and nobody will want to say anything and we'll be even more in the dark than we ever were.

 

Pffftttttt.....

[Heaven98]

Come on. We all know these things can happen. Vlad?s own PA insisted to me on Saturday night that McGhee was coming. She was genuine enough. Things just don?t always pan out...

 

Staff in the club shop told my mother they'd all been told McGhee was a definite on Tuesday last week. Source? My mother.

 

You've got to wonder if it could have maybe been handled a bit better....

[Legend Claws]

Who the **** is Donkey?

[WeeToonJambo]

Who the **** is Donkey?

 

Mark Donaldson, commentates on HeartsTV and also presenter on Talk 107.

[Guest GhostHunter]

what ! ... you mean he knows the square root of feck all like the majority of us ?

 

I think you're missing the point in all this.

 

Mark McGhee WAS about to be the new manager, the deal WAS about to be concluded. All sources WERE correct in this saga...

 

The problem (and the point) is, that nobody (that mattered - i.e Hearts) foresaw NancyBoyle coming in with an improved offer that would or could have swayed McGhee to stay at Motherwell. To NOT send anyone with him to London, in this instance, is/was commercial suicide - normal clubs would have escorted McGhee everywhere and likely confiscated his mobile phone

 

So, in summary, those who said McGhee was coming WERE correct (to an extent !)

[Legend Claws]

Mark Donaldson, commentates on HeartsTV and also presenter on Talk 107.

 

Thanks mate.

[Dazo]

I think you're missing the point in all this.

 

Mark McGhee WAS about to be the new manager, the deal WAS about to be concluded. All sources WERE correct in this saga...

 

The problem (and the point) is, that nobody (that mattered - i.e Hearts) foresaw NancyBoyle coming in with an improved offer that would or could have swayed McGhee to stay at Motherwell. To NOT send anyone with him to London, in this instance, is/was commercial suicide - normal clubs would have escorted McGhee everywhere and likely confiscated his mobile phone

 

So, in summary, those who said McGhee was coming WERE correct (to an extent !)

 

Did hearts seriously expect Motherwell to stand aside and let us take his manager ? Of course the shemale was going to try and keep him. Totally agree about being escorted to Lithuania. CO should have been with him IMO.

[Heaven98]

I think you're missing the point in all this.

 

Mark McGhee WAS about to be the new manager, the deal WAS about to be concluded. All sources WERE correct in this saga...

 

The problem (and the point) is, that nobody (that mattered - i.e Hearts) foresaw NancyBoyle coming in with an improved offer that would or could have swayed McGhee to stay at Motherwell. To NOT send anyone with him to London, in this instance, is/was commercial suicide - normal clubs would have escorted McGhee everywhere and likely confiscated his mobile phone

 

So, in summary, those who said McGhee was coming WERE correct (to an extent !)

 

Come on, mate. It's truly sad that they kind of assumed he'd come. Lets face it, we're terrible at Plan Bs. Hadn't thought beyond the fact that Boyle might just pick up the phone and say "Awrite - - bit more cash for you. You don't want to be bothered with that nuthouse anyways." Strangely, he's thinking long and hard about that one.

 

Stevie Clarke for manager. It's a better appointment.

[wee eckyfump]

I think clum and mole should have escorted MM to the airport and got on the plane with one way tickets to lithuania and let them see how crap they are.

 

Seriously through were in a bad way if we canny attract MM to tynie, after all hes been sacked by every club hes managed hes not won anything or done anything major,Hes small time for a manager and still he knocks us back:wacko:

[Seymour M Hersh]

Shades of 95 and JJ/Fulston here isn't there. I just hope the outcome is in our favour again.

[Guest JamboRobbo]

I think you're missing the point in all this.

 

Mark McGhee WAS about to be the new manager, the deal WAS about to be concluded. All sources WERE correct in this saga...

 

The problem (and the point) is, that nobody (that mattered - i.e Hearts) foresaw NancyBoyle coming in with an improved offer that would or could have swayed McGhee to stay at Motherwell.

 

Seems a bit of a schoolboy error if they didn't even expect Boyle to offer him a bit more to stay....

[John S]

Poor Mark Donaldson is caught between the devil and the deep blue sea. On one hand he?s a Hearts man, and like the rest of us will be ****ed off at recent events, while being excited/encouraged by the attempts to land MM as manager. On the other hand he?s a professional, with a job to do. A Hearts fan indeed, but unlike the rest of us, a Hearts fan with a genuine insight into what?s really going on at the club (from time to time at least) but lets not forget that he?s also a professional Sports broadcaster, (a description that can not be applied to anyone from real) and as a professional he will report as he finds. Yes, I do believe what Mark has reported, I?m sure he so in good faith based on assurances that he had been given that it was a done deal.

 

Lets be honest here, things change, one minute MM had indicated that he would come, the next minute he changes his mind. We can?t hold Mark Donaldson responsible for that; neither could we expect him, in his professional capacity, not to report what he had found.

 

Currently, I have an open mind on all this. It certainly looks as though MM has bottled it at the last minute, however, I?d not be surprised if there were still a twist or two left in this story. Bottom line for me is that I?d still be pleased if he came, but given that looks unlikely now, I?m not gutted if he doesn?t. The big test for me will be how Hearts react??

 

As for Mark Donaldson, I think we should appreciate a guy in the media business that genuinely cares for Hearts - he?s one of only a few, and he?s one of us.

 

John

[Shaggy2]

Why was MM going to Lithuania in any event? We play at Tynecastle and have an academy at HW do we not?

 

Can our illustrious owner not be bothered getting off his arse and coming over here?

 

Or is he currently sat in front of his PC working out our tactics for next season on Championship Manager???

 

Yet another blunder to add to his football business CV. Well done Vlad!

 

Anyone else think that he'll secretly be chuffed? His front has worked, like it did with Robson, Ranieri, Scala etc.

[Guest JamboRobbo]

The big test for me will be how Hearts react??

 

Agreed.

 

I wish I had confidence that we have a plan B and C. But I suspect there is a mass panic going on just now instead.....

[H J Simpson]

Surely that deserves a ban???

 

Nobody should suffer a comparison to You-Hun Cameron!!!

 

Personally didn't want Mark McGhee as he his a one season wonder and is far too "Celtic minded" for my liking. Levein, JJ, Davies or even Robbo are better options. As long as it's someone who knows football and is allowed to work without interference.

 

A serious question, why Robbo. Great player and Hearts legend yes, but his managerial record is sh*t and for some reason, like Souness, he gets touted for certain jobs even although he's failed big time

 

With the exception of the Hearts job he has never been in the running for a big job, is that because other chairman can see what a lot of Hearts fans don't want to??.

[Shaggy2]

A serious question, why Robbo. Great player and Hearts legend yes, but his managerial record is sh*t and for some reason, like Souness, he gets touted for certain jobs even although he's failed big time

 

With the exception of the Hearts job he has never been in the running for a big job, is that because other chairman can see what a lot of Hearts fans don't want to??.

 

I'm just not so sure his record is as bad as people make out. I know for a fact that Robbo knows the game inside out. He knows Hearts inside out too.

 

He brought ICT up (beat M O'N's Celtic in the cup that season too). In his half season he made sure ICT stayed up before moving to Hearts, where he had virtually no chance of success given the upheaval at the time. Like the mad Liths he should have been judged after 3 years. Some folk on here didn't give him 3 games.

 

Still, his team beat Basle away, Celtic away and were arguably denied at least 4 points in two games v Rangers due to refereeing decisions. (Dougie MacDonald's failure to send Boumsong off at Ibrox and Davis-gate.) We also reached two semi final's under him.

 

As well as the boardroom upheaval Craig Levein also took our two best players and caused Kisnorbo to stop trying.

 

Hearts made John Robertson the player. Hearts ruined John Robertson's chances of being a manager.

 

Surely with the benefit of hindsight you can see that Robbo got his ideal job at very much the wrong time?

[Mr Romanov Saviour of HMFC]

Just imagine if it was Euan Cameron that had been releasing stories like 'Donkey' has been for the past few days.

 

He would be absolutely slaughtered yet we are scared to critcise 'Donkey'

 

He's built everyones hopes up and his credibility has lowered in my eyes.

 

He may be a Hearts man but he's ****ed this one up big time.

[Guest GhostHunter]

Just imagine if it was Euan Cameron that had been releasing stories like 'Donkey' has been for the past few days.

 

He would be absolutely slaughtered yet we are scared to critcise 'Donkey'

 

He's built everyones hopes up and his credibility has lowered in my eyes.

 

He may be a Hearts man but he's ****ed this one up big time.

 

To be honest, I'm not sure he has.

 

Remember other journalists like Ewan Murray for one, were also reporting the same things. Yesterday's events caught everyone out, probably because no-one expected what happened. Remember Scott Burns was reporting that McGhee had ALREADY quit Motherwell for Hearts...

 

I don't think it's fair to slaughter Donkey for what he reported yesterday, because after all, everything he did report, actually happened (save for the "on the plane" bit ).

 

He's the only journo who is actually close to Hearts and gets Hearts related info before the rest of them. Yet when he reports what DID actually happen yesterday, he gets attacked ?

 

Sorry, but it's not on.

[Mr Romanov Saviour of HMFC]

To be honest, I'm not sure he has.

 

Remember other journalists like Ewan Murray for one, were also reporting the same things. Yesterday's events caught everyone out, probably because no-one expected what happened. Remember Scott Burns was reporting that McGhee had ALREADY quit Motherwell for Hearts...

 

I don't think it's fair to slaughter Donkey for what he reported yesterday, because after all, everything he did report, actually happened (save for the "on the plane" bit ).

 

He's the only journo who is actually close to Hearts and gets Hearts related info before the rest of them. Yet when he reports what DID actually happen yesterday, he gets attacked ?

 

Sorry, but it's not on.

 

Be honest ... if this was Euan Cameron or Banderson reporting it they would be absolutely slaughtered, yes?

 

I tend to trust MD alot more because it's obvious he is a Jambo and is usually on the ball.

 

However he jumped the gun FAR too early on this one and basically had us all believe McGhee was the new Hearts manager. I can't comment on how much he got right because to be honest, only McGhee knows the truth.

 

Anyway, I've said my piece. He got it horribly wrong in my eyes and just think if it was another journo it would be a very different reaction.

 

Suppose we all need someone to moan at just now.

[Guest GhostHunter]

Be honest ... if this was Euan Cameron or Banderson reporting it they would be absolutely slaughtered, yes?

 

I tend to trust MD alot more because it's obvious he is a Jambo and is usually on the ball.

 

However he jumped the gun FAR too early on this one and basically had us all believe McGhee was the new Hearts manager. I can't comment on how much he got right because to be honest, only McGhee knows the truth.

 

Anyway, I've said my piece. He got it horribly wrong in my eyes and just think if it was another journo it would be a very different reaction.

 

Suppose we all need someone to moan at just now.

 

Agreed we do need to moan at someone....but Donkey ?

 

Why not Boyle, or McGhee, or Scott Burns for actually saying MM had quit ?

 

MM himself said this morning that the deal was very close to having been done....

[1874robbo]

Some people need to get a grip and stop having a go at Donkey for doing his job and breaking a story that was true,how was Donkey to know that McGhee would lose his ba*** to take on a job where the expectation levels are set a bit higher than they are at Motherwell.

McGhee mentioned his future cv being important and maybe deep down he feels that people will regard anything short of third place and possibly a cup is deemed as a failure for a club with hearts resources and he bottled it.

Look at the league this year,Motherwell done very well and punched above their weight but last season was a poor season for most teams.so ther wasn't much challenge for them.