Dr. Bapswent Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 I dont mind him going to Hibs, knowing we took a look and decided he wasnt worth it. Will just show that are always happy to settle for second best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cosanostra Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 I could see the point in signing another central midfielder if he was better than what we have but I'm happy with the squad we have. An excellent blend of youth and experience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigAlim Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 Which is a pish poor return when you consider the likes of Ritchie / McLaren / Webster / Levein / Berra / Naysmith etc who all came from Hearts. Was Levein not at Cowdenbeath? Webster came from Arbroath too did he not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudy T Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 Was Levein not at Cowdenbeath? Webster came from Arbroath too did he not? Perhaps but we didn't have an academy at the time and they were both bought young and developed by Hearts - I'm hard pushed to think of many players either of the old firm got from the lower leagues and they went on to become internationalist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rossthejambo Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 Remember the boy Caddis? Was supposed to be the next Danny McGrain or something and ended up at Swindon Town. Caddis is playing for Birmingham these days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bighusref Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 Perhaps but we didn't have an academy at the time and they were both bought young and developed by Hearts - I'm hard pushed to think of many players either of the old firm got from the lower leagues and they went on to become internationalist. Andy Webster and Craig Levein were both playing first team football when we signed them. If you are going back to Levein you are going back to 83/84, I'm not doing it but I'm certain a fair few Celtic developed players went on to be international. Also, the majority of the players you mention wouldn't have been at our "Academy" so I'm unsure what point you are trying to make there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Locky Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 Putting aside for the moment that none of these are close to being Hearts targets, surely somebody will give the young Greek lad a try. I should add, I'm going purely on the paragraph in that article. I've never seen the lad play. I used to sign Ninis on FM for everybody back in the day. Greek god. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winston Ingram Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 Having watched him at Killie and Dundee I've never thought he was any good but obviously would trust the coaching staff. Like others, find it a bid strange we're looking at another full-back. Only possible logic would be if McGhee might move on in January. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ibrahim Tall Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 Which is a pish poor return when you consider the likes of Ritchie / McLaren / Webster / Levein / Berra / Naysmith etc who all came from Hearts. McLaren and Levein, you're pushing it a bit there are you not? The ones i mentioned are all still playing(or should be in Kennedys case). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bauld Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 Celtic shift defences regularly. We had Webster for a long time over 2 different spells and Zal was 7-8 years and Neilson for 10-11 years I think? So it is no surprise we havent produced a huge number of academy defenders but Berra, Wallace are 2 recent among others and now we have Paterson, McHattie, McGee all looking like future international defenders. Mulgrew came through as a defender for Celtic but they only put him near the defence as a last resort. He was even punted out first time round for being pish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glastonbury jambo Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 Tosh..ney...gtf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigAlim Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 Celtic shift defences regularly. We had Webster for a long time over 2 different spells and Zal was 7-8 years and Neilson for 10-11 years I think? So it is no surprise we havent produced a huge number of academy defenders but Berra, Wallace are 2 recent among others and now we have Paterson, McHattie, McGee all looking like future international defenders. Mulgrew came through as a defender for Celtic but they only put him near the defence as a last resort. He was even punted out first time round for being pish. Would add world cup player Ryan McGowan to your list too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Burgundy Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 So has he signed for the vermin or not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bauld Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 So has he signed for the vermin or not? No I think he has options from clubs like Dundee, I can just see him being a Hibs player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevie Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 The only way he'll go to Hibs is if they offer him the biggest wage.Who on Earth would want to be part of Hibs just now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bauld Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 The only way he'll go to Hibs is if they offer him the biggest wage.Who on Earth would want to be part of Hibs just now? It would probably be his most likely option for immediate first team football. At his age it is make or break regardless of money if he still wants a decent wage when he is 30 he has to prove it now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister T Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 He is meant to be pretty good but I have always been scared of the defenders Celtic let go, remember the likes of towell who went to hibs on loan, that guy josh thompson was dreadful and many others I have seen. I can't remember the last decent defender they had who actually came through their system. Stephane Mahe was a great signing for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bauld Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 Stephane Mahe was a great signing for us. If I remember right as he was from my early days as a fan he was never a Celtic academy graduate and his time with us was the last years of his career. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the geezer Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 was never required IMO,never kicked a ball for celtc at this age then no chance with us...would just stop the development of others Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister T Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 If I remember right as he was from my early days as a fan he was never a Celtic academy graduate and his time with us was the last years of his career. Yeah, you're spot on. He was way to good for one of their acadamey urchins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bighusref Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 If I remember right as he was from my early days as a fan he was never a Celtic academy graduate and his time with us was the last years of his career. Josh Thomson wasn't an Academy graduate either. He was signed from an English lower league team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bighusref Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 On the question of the last good defender to come through their Academy, my shout is Mulgrew. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bauld Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 Who was released before being brought back to play in midfield Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pistol1874 Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 On the question of the last good defender to come through their Academy, my shout is Mulgrew. Didn't he come through at Mk1 Rangers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bighusref Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 Just went for a wee look. I'd forgotten about Crainey and Wallace. I'm not sure if they've been mentioned on the thread already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bighusref Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 Who was released before being brought back to play in midfield ...and was Scottish player of the year as a defender. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bighusref Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 Didn't he come through at Mk1 Rangers? Nope. Celtic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pistol1874 Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 Nope. Celtic. Well there you go. I always thought he'd left Rangers gone elsewhere and then gone to Celtic. Live and learn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rossthejambo Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 Who was released before being brought back to play in midfield It's irrelevant if he was released or not, he's a defender who came through at Celtic and has played internationally in defence. John Kennedy and Stephen McManus would be another two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bauld Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 It's irrelevant if he was released or not, he's a defender who came through at Celtic and has played internationally in defence. John Kennedy and Stephen McManus would be another two. I know, just being an arse Going a few years since those 3 had their respective breakthroughs though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bighusref Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 I know, just being an arse Going a few years since those 3 had their respective breakthroughs though. He's a current international alongside Berra. Been a few years since him though... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davie1980 Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 Putting aside for the moment that none of these are close to being Hearts targets, surely somebody will give the young Greek lad a try. I should add, I'm going purely on the paragraph in that article. I've never seen the lad play. Great prospect on FM12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the geezer Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 Toshney In training at Hobos today along with a French striker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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