tartofmidlothian Posted July 23, 2014 Share Posted July 23, 2014 RT domain is blocked, so I can't see it - what was it about ? Similar to yours - a photo of a burly guy with a gun holding up a kid's teddy bear amidst all his hard-looking rebel mates, and it's reported in the press and tweets as being "rebel holds up child's toy as a sick trophy." Then in the video you see the guy say something like "what sort of people would do this?" then he crosses himself and lays it down gently on a pile of other stuff. Obviously he's playing for the cameras a bit, but it's a reminder there's propaganda and misunderstanding on both sides. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jambovambo Posted July 23, 2014 Share Posted July 23, 2014 I guess they record data magnetically in some form - in fact I think I read somewhere it was on wire ... or used to be anyway ... Nothing a spell in a massive magnetic field wouldn't wipe ... http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/mh17-crash-what-are-the-black-boxes-and-what-could-they-reveal-9622463.html "A FDR can record between 17 and 25 hours of flight data using solid-state memory boards" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Dan Posted July 23, 2014 Share Posted July 23, 2014 Two Ukrainian fighter jets shot down by Pro Russian Rebels now being reported. They must have the weaponry required for such an action. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boris Posted July 23, 2014 Share Posted July 23, 2014 Two Ukrainian fighter jets shot down by Pro Russian Rebels now being reported. They must have the weaponry required for such an action. SU-25's apparently. Top speed less than Mach 1, relatively low service ceiling so could be taken out by a lot of weapons, certainly not just the type of SAM that took out the airliner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chuck677 Posted July 23, 2014 Share Posted July 23, 2014 Two Ukrainian fighter jets shot down by Pro Russian Rebels now being reported. They must have the weaponry required for such an action. Not reported in the Russian news. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest GhostHunter Posted July 23, 2014 Share Posted July 23, 2014 A plane has crashed in Taiwan...breaking news.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig Gordons Gloves Posted July 23, 2014 Share Posted July 23, 2014 i know it's a minor thing - but seeing the Ukrainians provide an honor guard for the bodies being loaded onto planes in coffins and the dutch royal family being there as they arrive shows a little bit of humanity for those that died who previously were left out in the open or loaded into trains in bags. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paolo Posted July 23, 2014 Share Posted July 23, 2014 (edited) Not directly but they are involved indirectly. As is the UK, using the same logic. Edited July 23, 2014 by Simon Says Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bertracoon Posted July 23, 2014 Share Posted July 23, 2014 i know it's a minor thing - but seeing the Ukrainians provide an honor guard for the bodies being loaded onto planes in coffins and the dutch royal family being there as they arrive shows a little bit of humanity for those that died who previously were left out in the open or loaded into trains in bags. It is minor but shows a bit of class and understanding of the situation. A complete and utter contrast to the behaviour of the rebels who shot those poor people out of the sky Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrambo Posted July 23, 2014 Share Posted July 23, 2014 Saw footage of the bodies travelling through Holland in cars. People on overpasses with their phones out filming as the card go past? WTF! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paolo Posted July 23, 2014 Share Posted July 23, 2014 Saw footage of the bodies travelling through Holland in cars. People on overpasses with their phones out filming as the card go past? WTF! Some people are weird. Off topic, but on the Evening News Facebook page, there is a tragic story about a family being killed in a car crash, near Polmont. It has over 50 likes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deevers Posted July 23, 2014 Share Posted July 23, 2014 I think we are just about to see just how ineffective and weak the EU is in response to this. It's be become pretty obvious that neither the French or the Germans fancy any real sanctions being imposed on Putin. They obviously just want to see this brushed under the carpet as soon as possible on case it damages their own economic interests. Shameful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusk_Till_Dawn Posted July 23, 2014 Share Posted July 23, 2014 Some people are weird. Off topic, but on the Evening News Facebook page, there is a tragic story about a family being killed in a car crash, near Polmont. It has over 50 likes. Easy to misinterpret that I think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Maroonblood Posted July 23, 2014 Share Posted July 23, 2014 Saw footage of the bodies travelling through Holland in cars. People on overpasses with their phones out filming as the card go past? WTF! I find that very disturbing that people do that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Maroonblood Posted July 23, 2014 Share Posted July 23, 2014 I think we are just about to see just how ineffective and weak the EU is in response to this. It's be become pretty obvious that neither the French or the Germans fancy any real sanctions being imposed on Putin. They obviously just want to see this brushed under the carpet as soon as possible on case it damages their own economic interests. Shameful. The UK are just the same selling arms to Russia. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FWJ Posted July 23, 2014 Share Posted July 23, 2014 Just watching the news - the Dutch giving the deceased some respect and dignity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deevers Posted July 24, 2014 Share Posted July 24, 2014 The UK are just the same selling arms to Russia. Denied by Cameron though. This however is really a defining moment for the EU. If they can't agree to do something substantial in response to this, then really what's the point to it. Seems to me that national self interest is the watchword every time action is needed collectively from Europe. I used to be very enthusiastic about the EU, however Ican no longer see the point in it as a entity as it appears to be very weak when dealing with any important issue. Time we saved money and jumped ship I think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusk_Till_Dawn Posted July 24, 2014 Share Posted July 24, 2014 Now an Algerian passenger plane has gone missing. Sky News Newsdesk ?@SkyNewsBreak 3m More Reuters: Algerian official says missing #AirAlgerie plane is an Airbus A320 carrying 110 passengers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToYouToMe Posted July 24, 2014 Share Posted July 24, 2014 I think we are just about to see just how ineffective and weak the EU is in response to this. It's be become pretty obvious that neither the French or the Germans fancy any real sanctions being imposed on Putin. They obviously just want to see this brushed under the carpet as soon as possible on case it damages their own economic interests. Shameful. Agree. Sent from my GT-I9300 using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hughesie27 Posted July 24, 2014 Share Posted July 24, 2014 (edited) Now an Algerian passenger plane has gone missing. Sky News Newsdesk ?@SkyNewsBreak 3m More Reuters: Algerian official says missing #AirAlgerie plane is an Airbus A320 carrying 110 passengers Christ. Seems like it was flying in Africa. Edited July 24, 2014 by hughesie27 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToYouToMe Posted July 24, 2014 Share Posted July 24, 2014 Easy to misinterpret that I think. Yes the Like thing on Facebook is a bizarre thing in those circumstances. I suppose people just want to register their concern but it just doesn't fit well. Surely Facebook could devise another feature? Sent from my GT-I9300 using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusk_Till_Dawn Posted July 24, 2014 Share Posted July 24, 2014 Yes the Like thing on Facebook is a bizarre thing in those circumstances. I suppose people just want to register their concern but it just doesn't fit well. Surely Facebook could devise another feature? Sent from my GT-I9300 using Tapatalk It's more just a show of sympathy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamboy81 Posted July 24, 2014 Share Posted July 24, 2014 The Perth couple who lost 3 kids in the tragedy have released a statement. The kids were on holiday with their grandad. Our heart goes out to them. There will be a national day of mourning where we can pay respects to all Aussies lost. I think 38 counted so far http://m.watoday.com.au/world/maslin-family-releases-tribute-to-children-killed-in-mh17-disaster-20140723-zw69z.html RIP. We pray your deaths will not be in vain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToYouToMe Posted July 24, 2014 Share Posted July 24, 2014 The Perth couple who lost 3 kids in the tragedy have released a statement. The kids were on holiday with their grandad. Our heart goes out to them. There will be a national day of mourning where we can pay respects to all Aussies lost. I think 38 counted so far http://m.watoday.com.au/world/maslin-family-releases-tribute-to-children-killed-in-mh17-disaster-20140723-zw69z.html RIP. We pray your deaths will not be in vain. That is heartbreaking stuff. Sent from my GT-I9300 using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Maroonblood Posted July 24, 2014 Share Posted July 24, 2014 Denied by Cameron though. This however is really a defining moment for the EU. If they can't agree to do something substantial in response to this, then really what's the point to it. Seems to me that national self interest is the watchword every time action is needed collectively from Europe. I used to be very enthusiastic about the EU, however Ican no longer see the point in it as a entity as it appears to be very weak when dealing with any important issue. Time we saved money and jumped ship I think. Spot on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chuck677 Posted July 28, 2014 Share Posted July 28, 2014 If it's proven that there's Russian involvement they should have the World Cup taken off them for starts. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-28508509 World Cup should not be held in Russia, Nick Clegg says Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homme Posted July 28, 2014 Share Posted July 28, 2014 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-28508509 World Cup should not be held in Russia, Nick Clegg says Putin - "who the **** is Nick Clegg?" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rossthejambo Posted July 28, 2014 Share Posted July 28, 2014 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-28508509 World Cup should not be held in Russia, Nick Clegg says Fifa's big thing seems to be keeping national politics out of football, I fully expect that to be their stances hen it comes to this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deevers Posted July 28, 2014 Share Posted July 28, 2014 Fifa's big thing seems to be keeping national politics out of football, I fully expect that to be their stances hen it comes to this. . They are only frightened that they'll have to pay back the bungs! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paolo Posted July 28, 2014 Share Posted July 28, 2014 How about banning anywhere in the UK or the USA from stepping in, given their contribution to war crimes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CavySlaveJambo Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 Today, almost five years after the plane was shot down, Four People have been charged with the murder of the people on board MH17. Three are Russians and one is Ukrainian https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-48691488 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graygo Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 37 minutes ago, CavySlaveJambo said: Today, almost five years after the plane was shot down, Four People have been charged with the murder of the people on board MH17. Three are Russians and one is Ukrainian https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-48691488 Bottom feeders in the chain of responsibility? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homme Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 Quick five years. Wow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irufushi Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 11 minutes ago, Homme said: Quick five years. Wow. Thought that too. 5 years Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Better call Saul Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 4 hours ago, CavySlaveJambo said: Today, almost five years after the plane was shot down, Four People have been charged with the murder of the people on board MH17. Three are Russians and one is Ukrainian https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-48691488 The russkies couldn't have done it they were viewing famous steeples Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iamborg Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 check out Igor Girkin's list of crimes/wars he's been involved in . The guy is a bampot . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted June 22, 2019 Share Posted June 22, 2019 Some 'background including different source of some evidence Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Mikey1874 Posted June 22, 2019 Share Posted June 22, 2019 So above basically 'proved' missile launcher came from and was returned to Russian forces. What was still an accident could have simply been admitted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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