All Gone Wrong Posted May 24, 2014 Share Posted May 24, 2014 Pure class when it broke down today,at the traffic lights at the bottom of the Mound heading west,yes the bit of the road that narrows down to one lane.Fecking 2 hours of chaos followed,brilliant,i'm so proud of this monster.Lesley Hinds nowhere to be seen,yes bring out the clowns,Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Maroonblood Posted May 24, 2014 Share Posted May 24, 2014 Pure class when it broke down today,at the traffic lights at the bottom of the Mound heading west,yes the bit of the road that narrows down to one lane.Fecking 2 hours of chaos followed,brilliant,i'm so proud of this monster.Lesley Hinds nowhere to be seen,yes bring out the clowns,Lol Luvvly jubbly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinnybob72 Posted May 24, 2014 Share Posted May 24, 2014 That's what happens when you leave a project to be managed by a bunch of total arseholes. I'm pretty sure that one of the reasons trams were originally done away with was because when one broke down the rest of them following behind have nowhere to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlasgoJambo Posted May 24, 2014 Share Posted May 24, 2014 Edinburgh has trams? Hadn't heard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctor FinnBarr Posted May 24, 2014 Share Posted May 24, 2014 Edinburgh has trams? Hadn't heard. Oh aye, cheap transport that the local council and Scottish government got up and running in less than 3 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamboinglasgow Posted May 24, 2014 Share Posted May 24, 2014 Pure class when it broke down today,at the traffic lights at the bottom of the Mound heading west,yes the bit of the road that narrows down to one lane.Fecking 2 hours of chaos followed,brilliant,i'm so proud of this monster.Lesley Hinds nowhere to be seen,yes bring out the clowns,Lol Why would the head of the council be involved in a tram breaking down? Of I get it, because they have caused delays, I mean only our council could have a transport system where one of the vehicles brake down....am I doing this right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stoddyhmfc Posted May 24, 2014 Share Posted May 24, 2014 That's what happens when you leave a project to be managed by a bunch of total arseholes. I'm pretty sure that one of the reasons trams were originally done away with was because when one broke down the rest of them following behind have nowhere to go. Kickback running the trams now? saying that we would probably do a better job of it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graygo Posted May 24, 2014 Share Posted May 24, 2014 Oh aye, cheap transport that the local council and Scottish government got up and running in less than 3 years. and on budget Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter_hmfc Posted May 24, 2014 Share Posted May 24, 2014 How fast do they go by the way? Whenever I've seen one (in Princess Street) they go about 2mph. I'd be as well walking, could probably stop for a haircut and 3 course dinner and would still get there before the tram. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graygo Posted May 24, 2014 Share Posted May 24, 2014 How fast do they go by the way? Whenever I've seen one (in Princess Street) they go about 2mph. I'd be as well walking, could probably stop for a haircut and 3 course dinner and would still get there before the tram. I'm sure I read that the bus to the airport is quicker and cheaper than taking the tram. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
William H. Bonney Posted May 24, 2014 Share Posted May 24, 2014 I'm sure I read that the bus to the airport is quicker and cheaper than taking the tram. 35 minutes to the airport I believe. Also, what's the story with red lights. Every tram I see goes right through them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sick.of.romanov Posted May 24, 2014 Share Posted May 24, 2014 35 minutes to the airport I believe. Also, what's the story with red lights. Every tram I see goes right through them. According to the een tonight it will take 42 minutes from York pl to the airport Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamboinglasgow Posted May 24, 2014 Share Posted May 24, 2014 35 minutes to the airport I believe. Also, what's the story with red lights. Every tram I see goes right through them. there is a separate signal for the trams, it is a white line that lights up which tells them whether to go or not, usually next to the green light. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
William H. Bonney Posted May 24, 2014 Share Posted May 24, 2014 there is a separate signal for the trams, it is a white line that lights up which tells them whether to go or not, usually next to the green light. And here's me thinking they were all breaking the law. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3fingersreid Posted May 24, 2014 Share Posted May 24, 2014 Why do they have indicators ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lavrentiy Beria Posted May 24, 2014 Share Posted May 24, 2014 I feckin hate the Trams !! i've resorted to giving the drivers the finger , eases my blood pressure . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toxteth O'Grady Posted May 24, 2014 Share Posted May 24, 2014 Jenny Dawes is to blame more than Hines. Trams were ditched in the 1950s because they were a more inflexible and inferior mode of transport to cars and buses. They still are Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davemclaren Posted May 24, 2014 Share Posted May 24, 2014 Jenny Dawes is to blame more than Hines. Trams were ditched in the 1950s because they were a more inflexible and inferior mode of transport to cars and buses. They still are Not in most major cities in Europe they're not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gasman Posted May 24, 2014 Share Posted May 24, 2014 These are not trams, it is a light rail system, which is one of the (many) reasons it was so expensive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Maroonblood Posted May 24, 2014 Share Posted May 24, 2014 Jenny Dawes is to blame more than Hines. Trams were ditched in the 1950s because they were a more inflexible and inferior mode of transport to cars and buses. They still are Correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davemclaren Posted May 24, 2014 Share Posted May 24, 2014 These are not trams, it is a light rail system, which is one of the (many) reasons it was so expensive. The only real diffeernce is you can couple carraiges together and they mainly run on dedicated routes. Seems a bit pedantic as the term light rail and trams are pretty interchangeable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FWJ Posted May 24, 2014 Share Posted May 24, 2014 Funny how they are being reintroduced all over the world and people in other cities are petitioning to have new lines in their neighbourhoods. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siphiwe Tshabalala Posted May 24, 2014 Share Posted May 24, 2014 Works fine in the Boston area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambof3tornado Posted May 24, 2014 Share Posted May 24, 2014 None in Alloa and I can get about there just fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckydug Posted May 24, 2014 Share Posted May 24, 2014 If they abolished the trams in 1956 because congestion with cars and buses. What makes some folk think they are a good idea in 2014 ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smack Posted May 24, 2014 Share Posted May 24, 2014 I'm sure I read that the bus to the airport is quicker and cheaper than taking the tram. It's a bit tinky though. You arrive at an airport and you expect a train at least. A tram is kind of endearing. Worth a billion or two IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamboinglasgow Posted May 24, 2014 Share Posted May 24, 2014 It's a bit tinky though. You arrive at an airport and you expect a train at least. A tram is kind of endearing. Worth a billion or two IMO. And there would have been a train station at the airport which linked you with all directions in Scotland, but the government decided they didn't want it, scraped it, and is building a station two miles from the station that only links to the line north and requires the trams to get from the station to the airport. But in the meantime pushing ahead for the most expensive bridge in the world with the view that the other bridge was on borrowed time for the current level of traffic, only to discover actually the work they have done on it has extended its lifespan by much longer. I still cant get my head around the scrapping of EARL. You link up the country by rail, build it underneath the airport so it allows future expansion of Edinburgh airport and create the airport into a major transport hub, but its like the new government at the time looked at price and thought thats too expensive short term, and only when it mentioned they should at least do something they went for a half measure that reduces its effectiveness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smack Posted May 25, 2014 Share Posted May 25, 2014 Suppose you don't want to be the government in charge of people plummeting into the Firth of Forth. Best just build a new one. Agree that a rail link would have been better, but no point crying over spilt milk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamboinglasgow Posted May 25, 2014 Share Posted May 25, 2014 Suppose you don't want to be the government in charge of people plummeting into the Firth of Forth. Best just build a new one. Agree that a rail link would have been better, but no point crying over spilt milk. Of course, though I just think how quickly one was written off and the other was pushed through no matter what showed a real fault with transport policy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davemclaren Posted May 25, 2014 Share Posted May 25, 2014 Of course, though I just think how quickly one was written off and the other was pushed through no matter what showed a real fault with transport policy. The trams were local government driven Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smack Posted May 25, 2014 Share Posted May 25, 2014 Of course, though I just think how quickly one was written off and the other was pushed through no matter what showed a real fault with transport policy. Were the trams a government project? They might well have been for all I know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamboinglasgow Posted May 25, 2014 Share Posted May 25, 2014 The trams were local government driven With this one I am talking about EARL rather than the Trams. EARL was a government project Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davemclaren Posted May 25, 2014 Share Posted May 25, 2014 With this one I am talking about EARL rather than the Trams. EARL was a government project Agreed. I think EARL made more sense than GARL but it was very expensive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamboinglasgow Posted May 25, 2014 Share Posted May 25, 2014 Agreed. I think EARL made more sense than GARL but it was very expensive. GARL I can understand because as you say it was a very expensive rail route for something which only linked the airport to Central station, Not to the whole country like EARL would have and had the ability to make Edinburgh airport a major air hub in Scotland. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marvin Posted May 25, 2014 Share Posted May 25, 2014 Didn't realise they were up and running. Sounds to me they are as much as a white elephant as Bath's Spa project. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Internet Posted May 25, 2014 Share Posted May 25, 2014 Pure class when it broke down today,at the traffic lights at the bottom of the Mound heading west,yes the bit of the road that narrows down to one lane.Fecking 2 hours of chaos followed,brilliant,i'm so proud of this monster.Lesley Hinds nowhere to be seen,yes bring out the clowns,Lol Hope they break down so much that the whole ******* thing is put out of its misery. Biggest shambles I've ever heard of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Maroonblood Posted May 25, 2014 Share Posted May 25, 2014 Funny how they are being reintroduced all over the world and people in other cities are petitioning to have new lines in their neighbourhoods. Do have a list of these cities or are you just making it up to justify this waste of money? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PsychocAndy Posted May 25, 2014 Share Posted May 25, 2014 Agreed. I think EARL made more sense than GARL but it was very expensive. GARL I can understand because as you say it was a very expensive rail route for something which only linked the airport to Central station, Not to the whole country like EARL would have and had the ability to make Edinburgh airport a major air hub in Scotland. Are the 2 posters above just shouting four letter groups at each other or do they mean something? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregory House M.D. Posted May 25, 2014 Share Posted May 25, 2014 See if they were nice retro efforts like San Francisco people would be a bit more pleased with them. They're a ******* eyesore though. It looks like a bullet train being dragged at 10mph around the capital. Atrocious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hannibal Lecter Posted May 25, 2014 Share Posted May 25, 2014 Are the 2 posters above just shouting four letter groups at each other or do they mean something? Edinburgh Airport Rail Link & Glasgow Airport Rail Link Sent from my ST23i using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrambo Posted May 25, 2014 Share Posted May 25, 2014 I'm sure I read that the bus to the airport is quicker and cheaper than taking the tram. Won't be for long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMaganator Posted May 25, 2014 Share Posted May 25, 2014 Won't be for long. But the airport bus leaves every 8 mins 24 hrs a day, does it not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambothump Posted May 25, 2014 Share Posted May 25, 2014 But the airport bus leaves every 8 mins 24 hrs a day, does it not? First one leaves at 4AM last one at Midnight from Waverley bridge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chester™ Posted May 25, 2014 Share Posted May 25, 2014 First one leaves at 4AM last one at Midnight from Waverley bridge From June 1st its going 24/7 and during the day increasing how many journeys there are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrambo Posted May 25, 2014 Share Posted May 25, 2014 But the airport bus leaves every 8 mins 24 hrs a day, does it not? I wouldn't have a clue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FWJ Posted May 25, 2014 Share Posted May 25, 2014 Are the 2 posters above just shouting four letter groups at each other or do they mean something? Edinburgh Airport Rail Link and Glasgow Airport Rail Link. They would have connected the airports to the mainline rail network. On paper Edinburgh made more sense - it would have diverted the Glasgow/Stirling and Fife/Perth/Aberdeen mainlines through (and under) the airport improving access to much of the country. There were difficulties though concerning the tunnel and some said it would be politically unacceptible because of the effect it could have had on Glasgow Airport. The link to Glasgow wasn't as convenient as it would just join the Paisley (Gilmour Street) line into Glasgow Central meaning passengers would have to transfer to Glasgow Queen Street for onward travel to most of Scotland. If Crossrail was built though through trains from around the country could use GARL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chester™ Posted May 25, 2014 Share Posted May 25, 2014 There were difficulties though concerning the tunnel and many said it would be politically unacceptible because of the effect it could have had on Glasgow Airport. FTFY. Thats really the main reason EARL didnt take off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FWJ Posted May 25, 2014 Share Posted May 25, 2014 Do have a list of these cities or are you just making it up to justify this waste of money? The Irish example springs to mind - where Luas in Dublin has proved so popular there are plans to extend to Bray and set up trams in Cork, Limerick and Galway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Wiseau Posted May 25, 2014 Share Posted May 25, 2014 The Irish example springs to mind - where Luas in Dublin has proved so popular there are plans to extend to Bray and set up trams in Cork, Limerick and Galway. Tell us more about all these petitions. Would also like to hear more about which cities have tram "networks" where there is one third of a line and **** all else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N User Posted May 25, 2014 Share Posted May 25, 2014 For the cost paid we should have a tram network. We don't, therefore - waste of cash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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