FWJ Posted May 3, 2014 Share Posted May 3, 2014 The trams will offer a more reliable timetable than a bus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Maroonblood Posted May 3, 2014 Share Posted May 3, 2014 The trams will offer a more reliable timetable than a bus. Considering the bus is about every 10 minutes it's hardly relevant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FWJ Posted May 3, 2014 Share Posted May 3, 2014 Considering the bus is about every 10 minutes it's hardly relevant. If you're stuck in a traffic jam in Corstorphine it might be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Dan Posted May 3, 2014 Share Posted May 3, 2014 Form my point of view the tram to the airport is just not appealing. I'd have to get our suitcases and cabin bags 1/2 mile along the road to get a bus into Princes St then onto a tram out to the airport with a cost of about ?12 and about 11/2 hours of time. Compare that to ?20 door to door and 15 minutes in a taxi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maroon Sailor Posted May 3, 2014 Share Posted May 3, 2014 Can't see me using the trams - no good to man nor beast as far as I'm concerned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Maroonblood Posted May 3, 2014 Share Posted May 3, 2014 If you're stuck in a traffic jam in Corstorphine it might be. In my experience it isn't that bad. Anyway I always give my self ample time if I'm catching a flight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
My Left Nut Posted May 3, 2014 Share Posted May 3, 2014 In my experience it isn't that bad. Anyway I always give my self ample time if I'm catching a flight. The Airlink bus usually flies through Corstorphine. Usually only gets held up at the lights and sometimes when some idiots decides they can't driver properly. I usually get on it at just after 17:30 and I am at Shandwick Place for just after 17:45. This time of year you can't get a seat on it and sometimes can't get on it. Hopefully the trams won't be that rammed! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frankblack Posted May 3, 2014 Share Posted May 3, 2014 The trams are no use whatsoever to me or anyone in North Edinburgh. Flew to London a couple of weeks ago, and walked to get the Airport bus at Corstorphine. It makes sense to keep the Airport buses running because the Trams won't cover the route with major hotels such as the Marriot and Holiday Inn. Especially if the buses are quicker! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N User Posted May 3, 2014 Share Posted May 3, 2014 Caught on a bus in corstorphine? Bus lane froms the gyle all the way town. You might get slowed down a tiny bit but not much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Murray Posted May 3, 2014 Share Posted May 3, 2014 I feel sorry for the poor punters/family's going on holiday with a flight to catch, sitting on the tram in York Place or first stop in Princes Street being told there has been an accident at the West End/anywhere on the tram route, nowhere for the tram to go, bus can be diverted, grab your luggage please, all aboard the diverted 100 airport bus! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paolo Posted May 3, 2014 Share Posted May 3, 2014 I've been stuck at the airport since 2002 or so. Wanted to get to York place but there was literally no way of doing so. Can't wait for these to come into operation. 12 years stuck at an airport? You must be bored as hell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pablo Posted May 3, 2014 Share Posted May 3, 2014 I feel sorry for the poor punters/family's going on holiday with a flight to catch, sitting on the tram in York Place or first stop in Princes Street being told there has been an accident at the West End/anywhere on the tram route, nowhere for the tram to go, bus can be diverted, grab your luggage please, all aboard the diverted 100 airport bus! I doubt families going on their annual summer holiday will use it. You're paying several grand for the holiday anyway, most will get a cab. Business travel ? Taxi's on expenses or on contract. This is primarily for weekend/short break visitors to Edinburgh. That said, I want the network to expenad to several lines crossing in the city. Get people moving about. And even the most cynical would have to admit they're a rather sleek piece of design. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davemclaren Posted May 3, 2014 Share Posted May 3, 2014 I feel sorry for the poor punters/family's going on holiday with a flight to catch, sitting on the tram in York Place or first stop in Princes Street being told there has been an accident at the West End/anywhere on the tram route, nowhere for the tram to go, bus can be diverted, grab your luggage please, all aboard the diverted 100 airport bus! Yeah, people all over Europe prefer buses to trams due to that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davemclaren Posted May 3, 2014 Share Posted May 3, 2014 12 years stuck at an airport? You must be bored as hell. There's a film in there somewhere... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djf Posted May 3, 2014 Share Posted May 3, 2014 What is the time scale for expansion then? And what areas are likely to be serviced next? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frankblack Posted May 3, 2014 Share Posted May 3, 2014 I've been stuck at the airport since 2002 or so. Wanted to get to York place but there was literally no way of doing so. Can't wait for these to come into operation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maroon Sailor Posted May 3, 2014 Share Posted May 3, 2014 The trams are no use whatsoever to me or anyone in North Edinburgh. They are no use to the majority of people who live in the City full stop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Murray Posted May 3, 2014 Share Posted May 3, 2014 Yeah, people all over Europe prefer buses to trams due to that. People all over Europe have trams that can deviate from their original route. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FWJ Posted May 3, 2014 Share Posted May 3, 2014 People all over Europe have trams that can deviate from their original route. I'm not being obtuse here but - do they? They could go on a different line maybe, but that would rarely be in the same direction as the original. Aren't most tram systems 'hub and spoke'? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Creepy Lurker Posted May 3, 2014 Share Posted May 3, 2014 12 years stuck at an airport? You must be bored as hell. Getting pretty sick of eating at Wetherspoon's to be honest. Wish there was a bus route or something. Hope the wife hasn't left me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FWJ Posted May 3, 2014 Share Posted May 3, 2014 Getting pretty sick of eating at Wetherspoon's to be honest. Wish there was a bus route or something. Hope the wife hasn't left me. Aye. There was a bus route, but since trams are much more popular than busses and people are much more likely to leave their cars for a tram than a bus, the trams won. If the Scottish Government had a pair there'd be a train station at the airport too, with trains to most places to Scotland and beyond. Unfortunately they had no ambition (or were scared of a Glasgow backlash?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted May 3, 2014 Share Posted May 3, 2014 The trams will offer a more reliable timetable than a bus. till one is blocked or breaks down on the line Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davemclaren Posted May 3, 2014 Share Posted May 3, 2014 I'm not being obtuse here but - do they? They could go on a different line maybe, but that would rarely be in the same direction as the original. Aren't most tram systems 'hub and spoke'? Indeed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hungry hippo Posted May 3, 2014 Share Posted May 3, 2014 Can't see me using the trams - no good to man nor beast as far as I'm concerned. I'm not worried if John Leslie will use them or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3fingersreid Posted May 3, 2014 Share Posted May 3, 2014 till one is blocked or breaks down on the line I'd be a bit pissed off if I was on a tram heading for a meeting or job interview only to be told at murrayfield that we've got to stop and go back to shandwick place to tow another tram unless they can also be pushed from behind ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Col1874 Posted May 3, 2014 Share Posted May 3, 2014 I can't wait until the day that a tram breaks down over the gyle crossing during rush hour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davemclaren Posted May 4, 2014 Share Posted May 4, 2014 I can't wait until the day that a tram breaks down over the gyle crossing during rush hour. On would imagine the next tram could push it over the crossing. Anyway it's half a mile from the depot so shouldn't be short on support. I fully understand the cost overruns and the fact it's a somewhat limited network but trams aren't seen as a big problem in terms of stopping the world in the major cities of Europe, or even places like Manchester. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paolo Posted May 4, 2014 Share Posted May 4, 2014 On would imagine the next tram could push it over the crossing. Anyway it's half a mile from the depot so shouldn't be short on support. I fully understand the cost overruns and the fact it's a somewhat limited network but trams aren't seen as a big problem in terms of stopping the world in the major cities of Europe, or even places like Manchester. Most other places have more than one line, so you can get a different tram, or possibly go via a diversion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plastic_bas Posted May 4, 2014 Share Posted May 4, 2014 Most other places have more than one line, so you can get a different tram, or possibly go via a diversion. I've noticed one part of the line where the tracks cross over each other at Shandwick place. It looks like it's designed as a passing place should a tram break down in the area e.g. an eastbound tram can switch to the westbound line for a spell. I'm guessing/hoping there are a couple more of these along the way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davemclaren Posted May 4, 2014 Share Posted May 4, 2014 Most other places have more than one line, so you can get a different tram, or possibly go via a diversion. Not really. Tram lines tend to be quite seperate. Look at manchester for instance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FWJ Posted May 4, 2014 Share Posted May 4, 2014 So let's not bother with a tram because occasionally they break down? As has been said - most tram systems are 'hub and spoke'. There are other lines but they go in different directions. If there was a diversion available by the time it was set-up and cleared the broken-down tram would have been moved anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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