Jambof3tornado Posted March 22, 2014 Share Posted March 22, 2014 Eh? Is it not only a red card if it's denying a goalscoring opportunity. correct Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1874robbo Posted March 22, 2014 Share Posted March 22, 2014 Wish michael owen would stfu with the "it was a definite red!!" It was going wide ya badword muppet! If a dangerous cross is put into the box and before a forward comes in with a header to put it in the net the defender punches it away!!! Is it a red card? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rossthejambo Posted March 22, 2014 Share Posted March 22, 2014 Never ceases to amaze me how few people know basic rules in football Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hughesie27 Posted March 22, 2014 Share Posted March 22, 2014 From the FA website. denying the opposing team a goal or an obvious goalscoring opportunity by deliberately handling the ball (this does not apply to a goalkeeper within his own penalty area) For me it wasn't denying a goal scoring opportunity if the ball was going wide anyway... Few people possibly having to eat their words? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moogsy Posted March 22, 2014 Share Posted March 22, 2014 To be fair to the ref, I can almost give him that it might have been hard to tell defininitively if it was going wide or not, therefore red is just about acceptable. Sending off the wrong man though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maroon Sailor Posted March 22, 2014 Share Posted March 22, 2014 Could've been 4 - good save Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambof3tornado Posted March 22, 2014 Share Posted March 22, 2014 If a dangerous cross is put into the box and before a forward comes in with a header to put it in the net the defender punches it away!!! Is it a red card? yes but in this case the player has taken a shot which is going wide. The handball does not therefore deny a goalscoring opportunity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambof3tornado Posted March 22, 2014 Share Posted March 22, 2014 If a dangerous cross is put into the box and before a forward comes in with a header to put it in the net the defender punches it away!!! Is it a red card? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graygo Posted March 22, 2014 Share Posted March 22, 2014 Never ceases to amaze me how few people know basic rules in football Always happy to hold my hand up if I'm wrong so apologies mate. It adds: "Referees are reminded that deliberately handling the ball is normally punished only by a direct free-kick or penalty kick if the offence occurred inside the penalty area. "A caution or dismissal is not normally required." Edit: I quoted the wrong post, meant to quote one of jambof3tornado's posts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambof3tornado Posted March 22, 2014 Share Posted March 22, 2014 From the FA website. denying the opposing team a goal or an obvious goalscoring opportunity by deliberately handling the ball (this does not apply to a goalkeeper within his own penalty area) For me it wasn't denying a goal scoring opportunity if the ball was going wide anyway... Few people possibly having to eat their words? This. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hughesie27 Posted March 22, 2014 Share Posted March 22, 2014 yes but in this case the player has taken a shot which is going wide. The handball does not therefore deny a goalscoring opportunity. Exactly how I see. Can't blame the ref for that though as it did look like it was going in. Regardless however, a yellow (for OX!) and a penalty awarded would have been the right call. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1874robbo Posted March 22, 2014 Share Posted March 22, 2014 yes but in this case the player has taken a shot which is going wide. The handball does not therefore deny a goalscoring opportunity. I think you'd be hard pushed to find a decision anywhere in football if a defender dives and palms a shot away wether it's going in or not where it wouldn't be a red card. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamboceej Posted March 22, 2014 Share Posted March 22, 2014 As an aside, is the fourth official allowed to intervene due to something he's seen on a monitor? Ref and linesman didn't look like they'd seen it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moogsy Posted March 22, 2014 Share Posted March 22, 2014 I think you'd be hard pushed to find a decision anywhere in football if a defender dives and palms a shot away wether it's going in or not where it wouldn't be a red card. I don't think you would, unless referees all over are blatantly disregarding the rules of the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambof3tornado Posted March 22, 2014 Share Posted March 22, 2014 I think you'd be hard pushed to find a decision anywhere in football if a defender dives and palms a shot away wether it's going in or not where it wouldn't be a red card. if it had been going 2 feet wide it would be easier to get correct. But in this case it was close but if the ref isnt 100% sure it was denying a goalscoring opportunity he cannot send the man off(or the wrong man in this case). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maroon Sailor Posted March 22, 2014 Share Posted March 22, 2014 How good would it be if Arsenal get something out of this and Oxlade Chamberlain plays a part in all the goals ?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambof3tornado Posted March 22, 2014 Share Posted March 22, 2014 Can the ref show a card incorrectly then change his mind if he got it wrong? (I mean if he immediately realises the error). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thunderstruck Posted March 22, 2014 Share Posted March 22, 2014 To be fair, it can also be a red card and a penalty if it hits a defender on the head in his own penalty box. Mind you, I don't think that is in the rules either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambof3tornado Posted March 22, 2014 Share Posted March 22, 2014 I was hoping for a decent game but as a neutral this is shite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambof3tornado Posted March 22, 2014 Share Posted March 22, 2014 To be fair, it can also be a red card and a penalty if it hits a defender on the head in his own penalty box. Mind you, I don't think that is in the rules either. thats in the refereeing against Hearts only rulebook! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graygo Posted March 22, 2014 Share Posted March 22, 2014 4-0 Oscar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maroon Sailor Posted March 22, 2014 Share Posted March 22, 2014 We'll call you a cab We'll call you a caaaaaaaab Arsene Wenger - we'll call you a cab ! 4-0 - Oscar time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marvin Posted March 22, 2014 Share Posted March 22, 2014 cue Arsenal fans leaving quicker than the hibs lot at the 2012 final Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moogsy Posted March 22, 2014 Share Posted March 22, 2014 You've done some good things Arsene, but it's time to go Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vegas-voss Posted March 22, 2014 Share Posted March 22, 2014 Destruction for Arsenal again in a big game.Wenger will again say everything is all fine and rosey though when the simple fact is they are nowhere near good enough. Sent from my HTC One using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alwaysthereinspirit Posted March 22, 2014 Share Posted March 22, 2014 More reds I would imagine. Someone will lose the plot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maroon Sailor Posted March 22, 2014 Share Posted March 22, 2014 All this because Giroud stubbed at the ball with only the keeper to beat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcticJambo Posted March 22, 2014 Share Posted March 22, 2014 The only thing left for Wenger now is to batter Jose in his technical area. Now that would be a celebration for the ages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
:shitwine: Posted March 22, 2014 Share Posted March 22, 2014 Mariner: "Gibbs, you're off!" The Ox: "Ref, it was me!" Mariner: "Shut up Walcott, or you'll be off too" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMaganator Posted March 22, 2014 Share Posted March 22, 2014 Officials are having a shocker! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Maroonblood Posted March 22, 2014 Share Posted March 22, 2014 Destruction for Arsenal again in a big game.Wenger will again say everything is all fine and rosey though when the simple fact is they are nowhere near good enough. Sent from my HTC One using Tapatalk That sums it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moogsy Posted March 22, 2014 Share Posted March 22, 2014 Mariner: "Gibbs, you're off!" The Ox: "Ref, it was me!" Mariner: "Shut up Walcott, or you'll be off too" Going to have to steal this one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maroon Sailor Posted March 22, 2014 Share Posted March 22, 2014 Mariner: "Gibbs, you're off!" The Ox: "Ref, it was me!" Mariner: "Shut up Walcott, or you'll be off too" Ha ha love it ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le Tissier Posted March 22, 2014 Author Share Posted March 22, 2014 4-0 Derby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vegas-voss Posted March 22, 2014 Share Posted March 22, 2014 Ref and linesman have had a mare in this game how the he'll have they got that corner wrong now.Arsenal are a shambles though Sent from my HTC One using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cade Posted March 22, 2014 Share Posted March 22, 2014 Wenger gets pumped by a big team yet again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graygo Posted March 22, 2014 Share Posted March 22, 2014 Mariner: "Gibbs, you're off!" The Ox: "Ref, it was me!" Mariner: "Shut up Walcott, or you'll be off too" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
:shitwine: Posted March 22, 2014 Share Posted March 22, 2014 Going to have to steal this one I already nicked it from BBC Sporf twitter, so it's fair game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavsy Van Gaverson Posted March 22, 2014 Share Posted March 22, 2014 It does not matter if it was going wide or not. It was a definite yellow card. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavsy Van Gaverson Posted March 22, 2014 Share Posted March 22, 2014 Mariner: "Gibbs, you're off!" The Ox: "Ref, it was me!" Mariner: "Shut up Walcott, or you'll be off too" :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Francis Albert Posted March 22, 2014 Share Posted March 22, 2014 Officials are having a shocker! It's as if they were experimenting with Scottish officials. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Francis Albert Posted March 22, 2014 Share Posted March 22, 2014 To be fair to the ref, I can almost give him that it might have been hard to tell defininitively if it was going wide or not, therefore red is just about acceptable. Sending off the wrong man though The ref didn't seem to see the incident and so couldn't have seen it was going wide. The linesman couldn't possibly have judged whether it was going wide or was on target. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambof3tornado Posted March 22, 2014 Share Posted March 22, 2014 Arsenal have been so poor its hard to take into account the standard of officiating. They really do lack some bite in the middle. Arteta is honking. Mertersacker is like a slug pace wise. Keeper is decent but having a poor game. Need to spend some money to keep up the top four challenge next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcticJambo Posted March 22, 2014 Share Posted March 22, 2014 The red card ******-up will most likely mask the shocking tactics employed by AW ... lets just hope that a few in the media at least have a go at him for playing a high line with minimal DM (if any) cover against the self-described counter-attacking guru. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taffin Posted March 22, 2014 Share Posted March 22, 2014 I don't think you would, unless referees all over are blatantly disregarding the rules of the game. Can you be sent of for ungentlemanly conduct? If so, id suggest that diving and saving the ball with your hand fits the bill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambof3tornado Posted March 22, 2014 Share Posted March 22, 2014 The ref didn't seem to see the incident and so couldn't have seen it was going wide. The linesman couldn't possibly have judged whether it was going wide or was on target. linesman didnt flag for penalty so cant have seen any infringement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Wiseau Posted March 22, 2014 Share Posted March 22, 2014 Where's all the boys ripping into Mourinho for biting to Wenger's "wind-ups" now? :lol: Specialist in failure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcticJambo Posted March 22, 2014 Share Posted March 22, 2014 Arsenal have been so poor its hard to take into account the standard of officiating. They really do lack some bite in the middle. Arteta is honking. Mertersacker is like a slug pace wise. Keeper is decent but having a poor game. Need to spend some money to keep up the top four challenge next year. He may not be Usain Bolt but he has probably been one of their top performers this season. I do however agree with you that this loss is not about the officiating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeylandJambo Posted March 22, 2014 Share Posted March 22, 2014 Penalty to Derby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maroon Sailor Posted March 22, 2014 Share Posted March 22, 2014 Penalty Derby Brought down by keeper - yellow card Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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