jimmyjambo Posted December 8, 2013 Share Posted December 8, 2013 Anybody else watching this, on channel 4 just now, absolutely fascinating Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest C00l K1d Posted December 8, 2013 Share Posted December 8, 2013 My mate went to see it when he was travelling. Apparently there's still far more to be excavated but they don't have the technology to fully preserve it properly yet. Apparently when it comes into contact with our oxygen it will rapidly deteriorate... or something along those lines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sydney Posted December 8, 2013 Share Posted December 8, 2013 Been there recently and it was pretty amazing actually. The old farmer who found them just sits and signs his autograph on books of photos now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmyjambo Posted December 8, 2013 Author Share Posted December 8, 2013 It's on my list of places to go Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sydney Posted December 8, 2013 Share Posted December 8, 2013 Apparently when it comes into contact with our oxygen it will rapidly deteriorate... or something along those lines. That's right. They were all painted beautifully, but when they were unearthed the paint just faded away and we've been left with the terracotta colours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cade Posted December 8, 2013 Share Posted December 8, 2013 The burial site keeps getting bigger and bigger as they uncover more and more stuff. Best legend is that the Emperor had a giant scale map of the entire nation built actually in his mausoleum , with mountains made of bronze and flowing mercury in the rivers. Thousands of years ahead of their time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaap's Sigh Posted December 8, 2013 Share Posted December 8, 2013 My parents visited earlier this year and got their picture taken with the farmer who discovered them. They were told that a few years back, Bill Clinton went to see the warriors and he met the farmer. Clinton wanted his book autographed but the farmer couldn't write his own name. The Chinese were so embarrassed by this they very quickly schooled the farmer and made him a permanent feature at the site. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest C00l K1d Posted December 8, 2013 Share Posted December 8, 2013 So the statues are a fairly recent discovery then? If the farmer is still alive.. I was under the impression the site had been found for hundreds of years. Think i'm going to need to do a bit more research on this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sydney Posted December 8, 2013 Share Posted December 8, 2013 So the statues are a fairly recent discovery then? If the farmer is still alive.. I was under the impression the site had been found for hundreds of years. Think i'm going to need to do a bit more research on this I think he found them in the 1970's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sydney Posted December 8, 2013 Share Posted December 8, 2013 My parents visited earlier this year and got their picture taken with the farmer who discovered them. They were told that a few years back, Bill Clinton went to see the warriors and he met the farmer. Clinton wanted his book autographed but the farmer couldn't write his own name. The Chinese were so embarrassed by this they very quickly schooled the farmer and made him a permanent feature at the site. That's the story they told me too. The farmer looks bored out of his mind. Or drugged. He just sits there, signing his name. Never smiles. Never talks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaap's Sigh Posted December 8, 2013 Share Posted December 8, 2013 That's the story they told me too. The farmer looks bored out of his mind. Or drugged. He just sits there, signing his name. Never smiles. Never talks. The picture of him with my parents, he's grinning from ear to ear. Must have caught him on a good day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest C00l K1d Posted December 8, 2013 Share Posted December 8, 2013 How close can you get to them? Is there walkways above the pits so you can walk right along or are you restricted to some kind of viewing balcony? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graygo Posted December 8, 2013 Share Posted December 8, 2013 Morph, you're too young to have seen the exhibition in Edinburgh when they brought over some of the warrior figures but it was awesome. Think it was about 1985 and was to celebrate the twinning of Edinburgh and Xi'an. Edit: It was 1985. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmyjambo Posted December 9, 2013 Author Share Posted December 9, 2013 Morph, you're too young to have seen the exhibition in Edinburgh when they brought over some of the warrior figures but it was awesome. Think it was about 1985 and was to celebrate the twinning of Edinburgh and Xi'an. Edit: It was 1985. Remember going to this, sure it was down Market Street Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FWJ Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 Remember going to this, sure it was down Market Street Yup, City Arts Centre I think. Huge queues, it was very popular. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmyjambo Posted December 9, 2013 Author Share Posted December 9, 2013 Yup, City Arts Centre I think. Huge queues, it was very popular. Yes,I think it was, remember there being the large queues Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chimpos Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 Yes,I think it was, remember there being the large queues they werre in the british museum about 5 years ago too, impressive but only about 15-20 warriers. queues were massive too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coco Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 they werre in the british museum about 5 years ago too, impressive but only about 15-20 warriers. queues were massive too. Was a fantastic exhibition. Good book for anyone interested. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Maroonblood Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 Anybody else watching this, on channel 4 just now, absolutely fascinating Thanks for the heads up on the programme. Watched it on catch up TV. Very interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PsychocAndy Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 I never saw the Terracotta Warriors Exhibition in Edinburgh but I have seen the Army of Blue and White seats at Hampden, twice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vasco Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 It wasn't a single farmer who discovered them. There were several. I visited in 2001, and those who were still alive were dotted in various corners of the complex, each signing autographs and book covers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Sausage Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 I remember seeing these in Xi'an when I was 15 or so. One of the first times I really thought...holy shit. Truly amazing feat of human capability (and cruelty). The whole city is amazing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eighteenseventyfour Posted December 12, 2013 Share Posted December 12, 2013 Try reading the book by Maurice Cotterell for an alternative interpretation. Sent from my GT-I9305 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graygo Posted December 12, 2013 Share Posted December 12, 2013 Try reading the book by Maurice Cotterell for an alternative interpretation. Sent from my GT-I9305 using Tapatalk Or listen to this. Sounds like a nutter to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcticJambo Posted December 12, 2013 Share Posted December 12, 2013 I remember seeing these in Xi'an when I was 15 or so. One of the first times I really thought...holy shit. Truly amazing feat of human capability (and cruelty). The whole city is amazing. What's the story there? Did he bury the soldiers too ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graygo Posted December 12, 2013 Share Posted December 12, 2013 What's the story there? Did he bury the soldiers too ? Aye all 8000 of them. You're not suggesting they are real though are you? Certainly the guy it was done for, Qin Shi Huangdi was reckoned to be a bit of a shitebag. He'd batter you then cut your knob off. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-19922863 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcticJambo Posted December 12, 2013 Share Posted December 12, 2013 Aye all 8000 of them. You're not suggesting they are real though are you? Certainly the guy it was done for, Qin Shi Huangdi was reckoned to be a bit of a shitebag. He'd batter you then cut your knob off. http://www.bbc.co.uk...gazine-19922863 Thanks graygo. I skimmed through the wiki page but it didn't seem clear to me that he had had them buried alive,or simply had the equivalent of his army depicted in clay. I'd have had them executed and then encased in clay ... that'd be a bit more accurate. Sounds mental, as you say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graygo Posted December 12, 2013 Share Posted December 12, 2013 Qin Shi Huangdi was the first Emperor of China as we know it, it used to be seven kingdoms but a long war saw it become one. Before this war they did bury hundreds (after poisoning them with arsenic) with the emperor but the population was decimated during the war so they think that's why he had a clay army buried with him. The first 10 minutes of this video explains it well. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8UJOcsCHyIQ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eighteenseventyfour Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 Or listen to this. Sounds like a nutter to me. He's highly respected and was given the freedom of Mexico for his discovery work of the Mayans Sent from my GT-I9305 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graygo Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 He's highly respected and was given the freedom of Mexico for his discovery work of the Mayans Sent from my GT-I9305 using Tapatalk I'm sure he is but I'm not having some of the shite about the sun and women's periods and the sex of the unborn child. How is you Uncle Maurice? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graygo Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 He's highly respected and was given the freedom of Mexico for his discovery work of the Mayans Sent from my GT-I9305 using Tapatalk Source? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eighteenseventyfour Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 Source? I wasn't quite right however; Maurice Cotterell, a mathematician and scientist formerly at the Cranfield Institute of Technology, was awarded in 1992 the Voluntariado Cultural medal for his contributions to Mexican culture. Sent from my GT-I9305 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Sausage Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 What's the story there? Did he bury the soldiers too ? Worth reading about the thousands ( possible millions - someone more historical can correct) who died creating these warrior models. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcticJambo Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 Worth reading about the thousands ( possible millions - someone more historical can correct) who died creating these warrior models. I should take some time to delve. graygo put me onto some material too. Life was cheap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graygo Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 I wasn't quite right however; Maurice Cotterell, a mathematician and scientist formerly at the Cranfield Institute of Technology, was awarded in 1992 the Voluntariado Cultural medal for his contributions to Mexican culture. Sent from my GT-I9305 using Tapatalk Yes, that's not quite the freedom of Mexico. I'm not dissing this guy or at least I'm not hell bent on it but can you tell me anything about this medal? Even tell me anyone else that has been awarded it just so that I can check it's importance, thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eighteenseventyfour Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 Yes, that's not quite the freedom of Mexico. I'm not dissing this guy or at least I'm not hell bent on it but can you tell me anything about this medal? Even tell me anyone else that has been awarded it just so that I can check it's importance, thanks. I can't find annything relating to this other than his own proclaiming he received it from the Mexican president. Perhaps he bought a certificate from the Internet! In short I was wrong (I was pretty sure I had read it somewhere) so there you go. As this thread is about the Warriors I'll leave it at this point (tail between legs). However if you are interested in his theories the prophecies of tutankhamun is a fascinating read. Sent from my GT-I9305 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graygo Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 I can't find annything relating to this other than his own proclaiming he received it from the Mexican president. Perhaps he bought a certificate from the Internet! In short I was wrong (I was pretty sure I had read it somewhere) so there you go. As this thread is about the Warriors I'll leave it at this point (tail between legs). However if you are interested in his theories the prophecies of tutankhamun is a fascinating read. Sent from my GT-I9305 using Tapatalk Fair play mate I couldn't find anything about it other than on the back of his own book. My opinion of Maurice Cotterell is slightly above that of David Icke. Anyway, like you say, back to the warriors........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eighteenseventyfour Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 Fair play mate I couldn't find anything about it other than on the back of his own book. Sent from my GT-I9305 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graygo Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 Sent from my GT-I9305 using Tapatalk Found this so will give it a read http://www.scribd.com/doc/93617040/The-Tutankhamun-Prophecies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eighteenseventyfour Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 Found this so will give it a read http://www.scribd.com/doc/93617040/The-Tutankhamun-Prophecies That looks a decent chunk of the book, whilst his theories may not appeal to some its just as believable as any of the religious teachings imo. Enjoy. Sent from my GT-I9305 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graygo Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 That looks a decent chunk of the book, whilst his theories may not appeal to some its just as believable as any of the religious teachings imo. Enjoy. Sent from my GT-I9305 using Tapatalk And there's the rub. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eighteenseventyfour Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 And there's the rub. Care to expand, I don't get the comment Sent from my GT-I9305 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graygo Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 Care to expand, I don't get the comment Sent from my GT-I9305 using Tapatalk Just that none of the religious teachings are believable as far as I'm concerned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eighteenseventyfour Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 Just that none of the religious teachings are believable as far as I'm concerned. Agreed Sent from my GT-I9305 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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