Rudolf Posted August 4, 2013 Share Posted August 4, 2013 Lucky if there was 2500 of them. Pathetic really after the Euro exploits Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maroon 1874 Posted August 4, 2013 Share Posted August 4, 2013 its kack like St J,Hubs, Killie and the midden who should be destitute with thier derisory support Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bonnie Prince Charlie Posted August 4, 2013 Share Posted August 4, 2013 I worked up there for a few years, full of glory hunting Rangers wanks then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gambo Posted August 4, 2013 Share Posted August 4, 2013 A really embarrassing support from them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinnybob72 Posted August 4, 2013 Share Posted August 4, 2013 A couple of decent wins in Europe wont suddenly magic fans out of thin air - St J have always had a rubbish support and that wont change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fabienleclerq Posted August 4, 2013 Share Posted August 4, 2013 We're u surprised? Did u expect a full ground? They're a small team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birregrande Posted August 4, 2013 Share Posted August 4, 2013 I couldn't support a team like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudolf Posted August 4, 2013 Author Share Posted August 4, 2013 They had about 8,000 last week and won. I'd have expected at least half of that from them? Not on TV, nice day, early season optimism? I Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dagger Is Back Posted August 4, 2013 Share Posted August 4, 2013 If we can maintain our level of support for our club, given that this is what we're up against in terms of support, we'll soon be back at the right end of the table. These teams are coping economically with pathetic home gates like this. We have a huge advantage in terms of our fan base. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dagger Is Back Posted August 4, 2013 Share Posted August 4, 2013 Lucky if there was 2500 of them. Pathetic really after the Euro exploits Thought it was a shocking turn out quite frankly, notwithstanding their historically poor crowds. Makes you wonder how the hell they survive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hartley Jambo. Posted August 4, 2013 Share Posted August 4, 2013 wasn't sure if this was a St J or hobo thread. Not surprised either way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmfc22 Posted August 4, 2013 Share Posted August 4, 2013 It was a good crowd for them. It was actually above their average home support last year. Teams like that shouldn't be able to compete with us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Say What Again Posted August 4, 2013 Share Posted August 4, 2013 its kack like St J,Hubs, Killie and the midden who should be destitute with thier derisory support Why's that? They lived within the budget the "derisory support" afforded them, we didn't. Lets just wipe out every club from Morton down, eh? It's a poor support, but at least they don't jump on buses to Glasgow like the other fans from Perth every week. Tin hat (unnecessarily) on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorgie_Rules Posted August 4, 2013 Share Posted August 4, 2013 Those modern stadiums with didy wee stands miles apart really are shan places to watch football Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambof3tornado Posted August 4, 2013 Share Posted August 4, 2013 It was a good crowd for them. It was actually above their average home support last year. Teams like that shouldn't be able to compete with us. Not normally but they are competing with a Hearts team in administration. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamboAl Posted August 4, 2013 Share Posted August 4, 2013 I dislike this kind of topic. We had more suppot than them We sang louder than them etc It's what happens ON the field that counts and we lost! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jezza Posted August 4, 2013 Share Posted August 4, 2013 Obsessed with attendances for some reason. Fact is st Johnston where better today with a shit home support. We're the biggest club outside Glasgow it's about time we acted like by stop mentioning other supports and acting like its a badge of honour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJGJ Posted August 4, 2013 Share Posted August 4, 2013 Obsessed with attendances for some reason. Fact is st Johnston where better today with a shit home support. We're the biggest club outside Glasgow it's about time we acted like by stop mentioning other supports and acting like its a badge of honour. Fair Point It's the supports backing that is important not always the size of the support. You can't blame clubs for having a small support in terms of numbers for they often come from small towns and cities. If you are confident in who you are then you don't need to shout about it every few minutes. As for today great backing and lets hope we see that throughout the season but the numbers will go up and down...........the quality should not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter_hmfc Posted August 4, 2013 Share Posted August 4, 2013 I dislike this kind of topic. We had more suppot than them We sang louder than them etc It's what happens ON the field that counts and we lost! Their European journey Brought no eager extra fans Sat down, sat on hands Aye, I can do haikus too. Anyways, expected more from St Johnstone after their big wins in Europe, as it turns out they collectively could barely fill one stand for a season opener. Take away the Hearts fans and they'd have been as well shutting a stand or 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocco_Jambo Posted August 4, 2013 Share Posted August 4, 2013 For the size of their hometown compared to ours they get a far higher proportional average attendance than we do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Bubblebeard Posted August 4, 2013 Share Posted August 4, 2013 If points picked up was based on support, we'd be laughing all he way to safety by November. Sadly it isn't. However, I think the support today proved that the "12th man" tag can be true. In reality, we were miles behind St. J on the pitch but the crowd very nearly dragged a point out of that game by continuing to back them all the way to the end. You could see the massive effort the players put in as a result but, in truth, today we just did not have the quality to grab the goal. We are going to need a 12th man in every game this season if we want to be even close... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJGJ Posted August 4, 2013 Share Posted August 4, 2013 If points picked up was based on support, we'd be laughing all he way to safety by November. Sadly it isn't. However, I think the support today proved that the "12th man" tag can be true. In reality, we were miles behind St. J on the pitch but the crowd very nearly dragged a point out of that game by continuing to back them all the way to the end. You could see the massive effort the players put in as a result but, in truth, today we just did not have the quality to grab the goal. We are going to need a 12th man in every game this season if we want to be even close... Could that 12th man come on and play up front ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Bubblebeard Posted August 4, 2013 Share Posted August 4, 2013 Could that 12th man come on and play up front ? To be fair, think he tried just before KO! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamboAl Posted August 4, 2013 Share Posted August 4, 2013 Their European journey Brought no eager extra fans Sat down, sat on hands Aye, I can do haikus too. Anyways, expected more from St Johnstone after their big wins in Europe, as it turns out they collectively could barely fill one stand for a season opener. Take away the Hearts fans and they'd have been as well shutting a stand or 2. That's H1B5 talk worrying about how many opposition fans were there. So what if they could only fill one stand! Does that give us some sort of moral victory? I think they should be praised for giving us ?1 per head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fraggle Rock Posted August 4, 2013 Share Posted August 4, 2013 I couldn't support a team like that. Hahaha that made me laugh...... True though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caspian Primrose Posted August 4, 2013 Share Posted August 4, 2013 I worked up there for a few years, full of glory hunting Rangers wanks then just like every town in Scotland then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trago13 Posted August 4, 2013 Share Posted August 4, 2013 Perth has a population of around 50k. I'd say their support is pretty decent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Great Khali Posted August 4, 2013 Share Posted August 4, 2013 I keep reading at as Sean Connery. Looking very shixxy mish money penny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamboceej Posted August 4, 2013 Share Posted August 4, 2013 I'd be more inclined to say well done to those of them that do go along to support their local team. Trying to claim one up on a team because we have a bigger fan base is pretty poor imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted August 4, 2013 Share Posted August 4, 2013 Attendances seem poor but maybe that's it now and some good points about proportions. St Johnstone fans in section near us made a fair bit of noise and supported team well. Sad a bit as Saints might have a good side so shame more people don't come. Wonder if Saints are happy they have a 10,000 stadium now though SPL forced hand at time. If was 6,000 would have been full today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OTT Posted August 4, 2013 Share Posted August 4, 2013 Yeah, Well done to those who turned up, to all those glory hunting sevco and celtic wanks, hope your car breaks down and your dole never comes in again scum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambos_1874 Posted August 4, 2013 Share Posted August 4, 2013 Why's that? They lived within the budget the "derisory support" afforded them, we didn't. Lets just wipe out every club from Morton down, eh? It's a poor support, but at least they don't jump on buses to Glasgow like the other fans from Perth every week. Tin hat (unnecessarily) on. Exactly. StJohnstone are punching above their weight (on what is likely to be a tiny budget) and have been for a few seasons now, so all the best to them. To write them off just because they are a smaller club than us is the kind of arrogant OF mentality we don't need. Perth is no different from every single Scottish city in the sense that a significant proportion of its population supports one half of the OF rather than their local club. Walking around Edinburgh today I saw no-one wearing Hearts or Hibs tops but several people wearing Sellick and Rankgers tops. Absolutely sickening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Son Of Anarchy Posted August 5, 2013 Share Posted August 5, 2013 Ive got more respect for the home fans that did turn up than all the glory hunters wandering around the shops wearing old firm tops when they could be supporting their local team.perths full of them unfortunately.st j will always be a small team but they are a team i have no problem with at all which is rare for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey Watcher Posted August 5, 2013 Share Posted August 5, 2013 I couldn't support a team like that. And Celtic and Rangers fans probably say the same about Hearts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haken Posted August 5, 2013 Share Posted August 5, 2013 Thought it was a shocking turn out quite frankly, notwithstanding their historically poor crowds. Makes you wonder how the hell they survive. This is what I don't get. Average home gates were published (on the BBC site, I think) at the end of last season. There are teams that have about a third (or less) of what we have. Teams are managing to punch well above their weight, for some reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newyearsday97 Posted August 5, 2013 Share Posted August 5, 2013 If I'm being honest, I was disappointed with the size of our support today, but I certainly wasn't embarrassed by it. The guys and girls who come along every week give the team great backing and have as much right to support an SPL team as any Old Firm, Hearts, Hibs or Aberdeen fan. To be fair, we do get less stick from you guys about it than most clubs. To the guy who said he couldn't support a team like that - that's okay mate, we wouldn't want you anyway. There's no league points awarded for size of crowd. As for the Hearts support - tremendous. The way you guys backed your team right to the end as great. Had a banter with a couple of lads in the 208, great guys and real football fans. some saints fans have openly admitted that they can't afford 2 home games in a week. I don't think people should be criticised for that and they certainly shouldn't be ashamed of that - it's an expensive hobby sometimes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vodka-shark Posted August 5, 2013 Share Posted August 5, 2013 We should be taking a leaf out of St Johnstone's book. Just shows what can be achieved with a well run hard working club, what they have been able to achieve in Europe with such a small budget and support is incredible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pants Shaton Posted August 5, 2013 Share Posted August 5, 2013 This is what I don't get. Average home gates were published (on the BBC site, I think) at the end of last season. There are teams that have about a third (or less) of what we have. Teams are managing to punch well above their weight, for some reason. They appoint decent managers, let them buy their own players and don't sack them every 6 months. It's a radical formula but one that might just work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Romanov Saviour of HMFC Posted August 5, 2013 Share Posted August 5, 2013 The section closest to our end was quite loud, but the guys at St Johnstone must be wondering what they have to do to attract a decent crowd. Deserve better as a club to be honest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heartsfc_fan Posted August 5, 2013 Share Posted August 5, 2013 On a side note, what about the traffic after the match Is it usually that bad? The motorway looked a standstill (I ended up taking a 'long' detour through the countryside instead). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haken Posted August 5, 2013 Share Posted August 5, 2013 They appoint decent managers, let them buy their own players and don't sack them every 6 months. It's a radical formula but one that might just work. You may have a point! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Shed Floodlight Posted August 5, 2013 Share Posted August 5, 2013 St Johnstone used to have quite a big support in years gone by, like everything else, support has disappeared because of the fare on offer and the prices to get into grounds nowadays. Good on the one's that still go along though as they will be the loyal one's who go every week. Their stay at home support will only go to the big games, like the one coming up on Thursday, and as a previous poster said can only maybe afford one game a week, so obviously the Euro game will take precedence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le Tissier Posted August 5, 2013 Share Posted August 5, 2013 On a side note, what about the traffic after the match Is it usually that bad? The motorway looked a standstill (I ended up taking a 'long' detour through the countryside instead). Took us 2mins to get out the car park. Only hold up was a wee tail back at Broxden roundabout. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stirlo Posted August 5, 2013 Share Posted August 5, 2013 As other posters have pointed out, the big problem that St Johnstone face is the big problem that just about every non old-firm club in Scotland face - the huge numbers of locals who support one of the old firm instead of their local team. I expect that the percentage of football fans residing in the Lothians who support one of the old-firm instead of Hearts, Hibs or Livingston is probably about the same as the percentage in the Perth area who support old firm teams instead of St Johnstone i.e. our support is only significantly bigger because the population of the Lothians is much bigger. At the end of the day, St Johnstone are a very well run club who deserve a better level of support - and the fans that do support them deserve respect for following their local club instead of heading down to Glasgow on a Saturday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craigieboy Posted August 5, 2013 Share Posted August 5, 2013 What's St Johnstone's problem with Dundee btw? Are they more rivals with them than Utd? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gambo Posted August 5, 2013 Share Posted August 5, 2013 The guys and girls who come along every week give the team great backing There was no more than about ten youths and a drummer who attempted to make a noise amongst your support. Fair play to the Saints fans who did turn up though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibbo Posted August 5, 2013 Share Posted August 5, 2013 Attendances seem poor but maybe that's it now and some good points about proportions. St Johnstone fans in section near us made a fair bit of noise and supported team well. Sad a bit as Saints might have a good side so shame more people don't come. Wonder if Saints are happy they have a 10,000 stadium now though SPL forced hand at time. If was 6,000 would have been full today. McDiarmid Park was opened in 1989, long before all seated stadiums became compulsory. I think that they got it for nothing. Mr McDiarmid gave them the land for nothing, and I think that a supermarket paid for the construction in return for Muirton Park Crowds, especially travelling supports were higher in those days than they are now. St Johnstone averaged around 6,000 in their first few season at McDiarmid. People were turned away from our 5-0 victory there in 1991-92. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
communist Posted August 5, 2013 Share Posted August 5, 2013 What's St Johnstone's problem with Dundee btw? Are they more rivals with them than Utd? They see it as a derby, for whatever reason. I've attended a few of these games with a mate who is a saints fan both at Perth and Dundee, they actually hate each other! Weird really, considering the distance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudolf Posted August 5, 2013 Author Share Posted August 5, 2013 They see it as a derby, for whatever reason. I've attended a few of these games with a mate who is a saints fan both at Perth and Dundee, they actually hate each other! Weird really, considering the distance. Yeah, I saw a saints fan with a St Johnstone 7 Dundee 2 T-shirt whenever that was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibbo Posted August 5, 2013 Share Posted August 5, 2013 They see it as a derby, for whatever reason. I've attended a few of these games with a mate who is a saints fan both at Perth and Dundee, they actually hate each other! Weird really, considering the distance. Utd were a pretty small club until the early 60s. I'm sure that Dundee played Saints on New Year's Day and Utd in the next match until the mid-70s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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