Fermit the Krog Posted January 3, 2013 Share Posted January 3, 2013 ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gigolo-Aunt Posted January 3, 2013 Share Posted January 3, 2013 Stonewall. No doubt about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirky Jambo Posted January 3, 2013 Share Posted January 3, 2013 Just back and seen recording. Yes it is. Abysmal defending by McPake Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fermit the Krog Posted January 3, 2013 Author Share Posted January 3, 2013 Was at other end of ground but also thought that Gollums position was fine and he was looking right at it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gigolo-Aunt Posted January 3, 2013 Share Posted January 3, 2013 Was at other end of ground but also thought that Gollums position was fine and he was looking right at it? Thought so. Lord knows what the lines man was doing...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
:shitwine: Posted January 3, 2013 Share Posted January 3, 2013 I was concentrating on Driver's chance, so I missed it at the time. Just seen it on TV - clear as day. James McPake is a joke of a football player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peebo Posted January 3, 2013 Share Posted January 3, 2013 Possibly the clearest penalty I've ever seen in my life. Reckless challenge, just as Stevenson's was on him, shortly afterward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taffin Posted January 3, 2013 Share Posted January 3, 2013 Couldn't have been any clearer tbh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coco Posted January 3, 2013 Share Posted January 3, 2013 For me yes penalty but the advantage is given by the referee and Driver misses the chance at goal and he can't take it back to the penalty. That's why Willie Collum is one of our top referees and one of the best in the business. :paterson: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tazio Posted January 3, 2013 Share Posted January 3, 2013 Seldom seen as stick on a penalty as that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tazio Posted January 3, 2013 Share Posted January 3, 2013 For me yes penalty but the advantage is given by the referee and Driver misses the chance at goal and he can't take it back to the penalty. That's why Willie Collum is one of our top referees and one of the best in the business. But he did that exact same thing in a Dundee Utd game not so long ago according to Sky? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gigolo-Aunt Posted January 3, 2013 Share Posted January 3, 2013 For me yes penalty but the advantage is given by the referee and Driver misses the chance at goal and he can't take it back to the penalty. That's why Willie Collum is one of our top referees and one of the best in the business. :paterson: Funnily enough it was Chick who said pretty much that! Craigy thought it was a stick on pen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russian Hats Posted January 3, 2013 Share Posted January 3, 2013 Stone waller every day of the week and probably a red card for diving in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coco Posted January 3, 2013 Share Posted January 3, 2013 But he did that exact same thing in a Dundee Utd game not so long ago according to Sky? What we're looking for is consistency from the referees and he'll learn from his mistakes and that's why he's one of the best in the business. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tazio Posted January 3, 2013 Share Posted January 3, 2013 What we're looking for is consistency from the referees and he'll learn from his mistakes and that's why he's one of the best in the business. Why of course Who can argue with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heatonjambo Posted January 3, 2013 Share Posted January 3, 2013 ? yes but why did none claim for it including us the fans? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Libertonian_II Posted January 3, 2013 Share Posted January 3, 2013 yes but why did none claim for it including us the fans? Must have missed from the back of section F. Didn't see anything. Let's see if the highlights show it up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJGJ Posted January 3, 2013 Share Posted January 3, 2013 It was a stonewaller... The problem was Driver was quickly on to it and had a shot ..... Colum bottled it after his experience in the Dundee derby when he was pilloried fpr playing advantage then giving a penalty when no goal was scored. 100% penalty but with him what do you expect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fozzyonthefence Posted January 3, 2013 Share Posted January 3, 2013 It was a stonewaller... The problem was Driver was quickly on to it and had a shot ..... Colum bottled it after his experience in the Dundee derby when he was pilloried fpr playing advantage then giving a penalty when no goal was scored. 100% penalty but with him what do you expect. To be fair, he would have got slaughtered if he blew for the penalty straight away, Driver scored, then we miss the penalty (like, what happened to St Mirren, I think, in the cup against us last season). And I don't think football refs are allowed to allow the advantage then take it back to the penalty if the attacking team feck up, unlike in rugby. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBjambo Posted January 3, 2013 Share Posted January 3, 2013 Penalty without a doubt, shocking decision not to award... given the penalty Daly got for Utd last week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
High Fives Posted January 3, 2013 Share Posted January 3, 2013 Yes, and a red card to boot for a last man challenge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heartsfc_fan Posted January 3, 2013 Share Posted January 3, 2013 Clear penalty. Just seen it on Sportscene. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJGJ Posted January 3, 2013 Share Posted January 3, 2013 To be fair, he would have got slaughtered if he blew for the penalty straight away, Driver scored, then we miss the penalty (like, what happened to St Mirren, I think, in the cup against us last season). And I don't think football refs are allowed to allow the advantage then take it back to the penalty if the attacking team feck up, unlike in rugby. Then watch the Dundee derby with Colum as referee and come back to us.... he bottled it. ... and you can play advantage and call it back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grumpyespana Posted January 3, 2013 Share Posted January 3, 2013 I thought the ref had a decent game tonight, Stevenson was lucky to stay on the park after that tackle. Grumpy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indianajones Posted January 3, 2013 Share Posted January 3, 2013 I thought the ref had a decent game tonight, Stevenson was lucky to stay on the park after that tackle. Grumpy. Ref. Decent. Game. What? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victorian Posted January 3, 2013 Share Posted January 3, 2013 Nobody will ever know what Collum was thinking. For some superb reason, referees are protected by not having to be like... accountable by explanation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcticJambo Posted January 3, 2013 Share Posted January 3, 2013 In realtime I didn't really notice it. On the replays McPake definitely goes in recklessly so based on that alone I'd say pen but if it was the other way I'd not want it given because the Hearts boy (don't recall now who it was) kinda pulled out of the challenge. Probably would have given it had the shot not been taken mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Currahee! Posted January 3, 2013 Share Posted January 3, 2013 It looked a penalty to me but I'd like to see it again. Collum though? What a horrific performance. We got nothing and they kicked us up and down the park. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teepee17 Posted January 3, 2013 Share Posted January 3, 2013 Was 5 rows from my seat calling Collum all the cheating B's for ages. You don't get more stonewall pens than that. Drivers run didn't help the claim though, seemed to distract Collum and most folk watching. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowmans_Boot Posted January 3, 2013 Share Posted January 3, 2013 It looked a penalty to me but I'd like to see it again. Collum though? What a horrific performance. We got nothing and they kicked us up and down the park. Havent seen it on tv but I presumed he had played advantage. He had a terrible match, though, we should encourage teams who want to play football, not a bunch of kickers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imeantasong Posted January 3, 2013 Share Posted January 3, 2013 Can only think the referee supervisor told him he done the wrong thing at Dens. If Driver doesn't get a shot in (tight angle, never a certainty), it's a penalty and red card Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shinzo Posted January 3, 2013 Share Posted January 3, 2013 Collum didn't play advantage. That's a get out for a wrong decision. When Ryan Stevenson was still nipping his head about it a minute later Collum was clearly ssaying "he played the ball"..presumably meaning that he saw that McPake got the ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Libertonian_II Posted January 3, 2013 Share Posted January 3, 2013 Must have missed from the back of section F. Didn't see anything. Let's see if the highlights show it up Ok I see it now. Too busy watching Driver. Definately a penalty and sending off. BBC showed Collum up for being inconsistent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eckauskas Posted January 3, 2013 Share Posted January 3, 2013 Yet further proof that Willie Collum is an utterly balls referee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frankbroxup Posted January 3, 2013 Share Posted January 3, 2013 For me yes penalty but the advantage is given by the referee and Driver misses the chance at goal and he can't take it back to the penalty. That's why Willie Collum is one of our top referees and one of the best in the business. :paterson: Driver was offside Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeartsForever Posted January 4, 2013 Share Posted January 4, 2013 Video link any1? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunks Posted January 4, 2013 Share Posted January 4, 2013 Video link any1? http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/scotland/20905318 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
269miles Posted January 4, 2013 Share Posted January 4, 2013 Ok I see it now. Too busy watching Driver. Definately a penalty and sending off. BBC showed Collum up for being inconsistent I only saw the first half - and that was enough. Weak and spineless when it mattered and if McPake had got his leg broken by Stevo ( I'm not advocating he deserved it) Collum would have himself to blame because the first serious foul was a borderline red card IMO and he refused to even give a yellow card. Hibs knew then they would get away with murder - the next "challenge" , on McDonald was a defo yellow card . But again , nothing given. The same player then hauls dwon a Hearts player just a few mins later - but still no caution. I'll excuse Collum the penalty non-decision but the lino had a perfect view and didn't do anything. Overall a predictably poor performance from Scottish match officials. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alba gu Brath Posted January 4, 2013 Share Posted January 4, 2013 Def penalty but advantage played. Pity it was Driver who is allergic to scoring such chances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeartsForever Posted January 4, 2013 Share Posted January 4, 2013 http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/scotland/20905318 Cheers m8! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Van Wilder Posted January 4, 2013 Share Posted January 4, 2013 He bottled it. It was a pen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alfamonkey Posted January 4, 2013 Share Posted January 4, 2013 Jesus. This totally passed me by tonight. Blame 7 pints and a weak bladder (+ an ineptitude to play 4-4-2) on me missing this key action point . Sounds stonewall and that's good enough for me. Gollum for Hobbit. That's what I say . Grrrrrrrrrr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamboruss Posted January 4, 2013 Share Posted January 4, 2013 ...and Gollum is a cheat but devious and clever with it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Francis Albert Posted January 4, 2013 Share Posted January 4, 2013 yes but why did none claim for it including us the fans? Stevenson chased Collum all over the pitch for a couple of minutes claiming it! And of course a ref is perfectly entitled to wait a few sconds to see if any advantage accrues before deciding whether or not to give the foul. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snake Plissken Posted January 4, 2013 Share Posted January 4, 2013 Absolute stick-on penalty. McPake dove in and was miles off the ball. I don't think it would have been a sending off but should have been a booking and a penalty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bunny Munro Posted January 4, 2013 Share Posted January 4, 2013 Once the shot had been taken he can't bring it back. He can (and should) still award the correct red card. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ecjambo Posted January 4, 2013 Share Posted January 4, 2013 Stonewall penalty. Advantage? What advantage? He put it wide ffs! Collum was awful all night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff Kilpatrick Posted January 4, 2013 Share Posted January 4, 2013 I actually don't blame Gollum for not giving it given the subsequent action of Driver's shot, which he should have scored. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmfc22 Posted January 4, 2013 Share Posted January 4, 2013 Clear penalty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stupid Sexy Flanders Posted January 4, 2013 Share Posted January 4, 2013 Having watched it about ten times, just to be as sure as I was the first time I saw it, yes. It's quite honestly, all bias aside, the most absolute stick on penalty I've ever seen. How anyone can argue is baffling to me. He played advantage for about two seconds, of course he could still award the foul after that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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