Ryan Gosling Posted April 23, 2008 Share Posted April 23, 2008 http://www.heartsfc.premiumtv.co.uk/page/HeartsNewsDetail/0,,10289~1296198,00.html Shouldn't a manager be doing this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commander Harris Posted April 23, 2008 Share Posted April 23, 2008 shaking with rage! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JamboRobbo Posted April 23, 2008 Share Posted April 23, 2008 Again, the sort of thing that a manager should be doing. In this case, I wouldn't argue with the actual decision, but once again, this is the sort of decision that should be made by a manager, not the owner. We only need to look at the last batch of 5 year contracts he dished out to youngsters - to a load of boys who are now all loaned out and all have no chance of ever making it at HMFC (according to John Murray at recent fans meeting), to see WHY this sort of decision should be made by people who know what they are doing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David McCaig Posted April 23, 2008 Share Posted April 23, 2008 http://www.heartsfc.premiumtv.co.uk/page/HeartsNewsDetail/0,,10289~1296198,00.html Shouldn't a manager be doing this? Is there any story that cant be given a negative slant!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drylaw Hearts Posted April 23, 2008 Share Posted April 23, 2008 http://www.heartsfc.premiumtv.co.uk/page/HeartsNewsDetail/0,,10289~1296198,00.html Shouldn't a manager be doing this? The renewal of Youth Player Contracts is down to John Murray. As you well know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Gosling Posted April 23, 2008 Author Share Posted April 23, 2008 Could have put money on that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walter Bishop Posted April 23, 2008 Share Posted April 23, 2008 http://www.heartsfc.premiumtv.co.uk/page/HeartsNewsDetail/0,,10289~1296198,00.html Shouldn't a manager be doing this? Our "new manager" has done it, there is even a quote on there from him!!! Just waiting for the big news that Clum has signed a 5 year deal!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulah Posted April 23, 2008 Share Posted April 23, 2008 Why do we keep giving youngsters these big contracts for goodness sake he's only scored 1 goal in the 1st team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulyjambo Posted April 23, 2008 Share Posted April 23, 2008 Great news! - Just noticed it is a 4 year deal, hope he does not do a Webster!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K1874M Posted April 23, 2008 Share Posted April 23, 2008 A manager did do it... The catering manager, pedro was off scouting whilst the cleaning lady carried out fitness tests on the players for Saturday. Its called staff rotation.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JamboRobbo Posted April 23, 2008 Share Posted April 23, 2008 A manager did do it... The catering manager, pedro was off scouting whilst the cleaning lady carried out fitness tests on the players for Saturday. Its called staff rotation.... It's funny cause the gist of it is true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grainger Posted April 23, 2008 Share Posted April 23, 2008 Under our current system, isn't it the Director of Football who gives out the contracts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JamboRobbo Posted April 23, 2008 Share Posted April 23, 2008 Under our current system, isn't it the Director of Football who gives out the contracts? If you're talking about the Kaunus Director of football, then I think you are correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drylaw Hearts Posted April 23, 2008 Share Posted April 23, 2008 Forgot to say.............. Good news. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff Kilpatrick Posted April 23, 2008 Share Posted April 23, 2008 Yep, a manager or a director of football should be doing this. Do we have either? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo83 Posted April 23, 2008 Share Posted April 23, 2008 FFS guys, one of our most promising youngsters commits his future to the club and it's immediately met with negative comments. How do you know Frail and the other youth coaches haven't recommended this to Vlad and he's sanctioned it?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie-Brown Posted April 23, 2008 Share Posted April 23, 2008 It is surely better to risk a Stephen Simmons type failure to progress than than risk losing a potential Craig Gordon or Scott Brown because we didn't give a promising young player a decent enough contract to keep him at the club which should ensure a transfer fee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Winstone Posted April 23, 2008 Share Posted April 23, 2008 Last 2 "promising" strikers who came into the team and did well and were then given long term contracts? Was it not Graham Weir and then the same mistake with Mole? The contracts are far too long for young players. Should be two years with an option for another 2 after that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JamboRobbo Posted April 23, 2008 Share Posted April 23, 2008 It is surely better to risk a Stephen Simmons type failure to progress than than risk losing a potential Craig Gordon or Scott Brown because we didn't give a promising young player a decent enough contract to keep him at the club which should ensure a transfer fee. Indeed it is, but at any football club that has the basics of it's structure correct, there is no need for either scenario. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JamboRobbo Posted April 23, 2008 Share Posted April 23, 2008 How do you know Frail and the other youth coaches haven't recommended this to Vlad and he's sanctioned it?! Observation of how our club has been run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Bapswent Posted April 23, 2008 Share Posted April 23, 2008 People are talking as if only one person had a sy in this. Jut because one person seals the deal, doesnt mean others have not had input. And surley having Glen signed up is the main point...not some other negative issue to pull apart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hans007 Posted April 23, 2008 Share Posted April 23, 2008 The renewal of Youth Player Contracts is down to John Murray. As you well know. Wouldn't shed a tear if he was punted with Frail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eckauskas Posted April 23, 2008 Share Posted April 23, 2008 Again, the sort of thing that a manager should be doing. In this case, I wouldn't argue with the actual decision, but once again, this is the sort of decision that should be made by a manager, not the owner. We only need to look at the last batch of 5 year contracts he dished out to youngsters - to a load of boys who are now all loaned out and all have no chance of ever making it at HMFC (according to John Murray at recent fans meeting), to see WHY this sort of decision should be made by people who know what they are doing. Laughable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Bapswent Posted April 23, 2008 Share Posted April 23, 2008 Observation of how our club has been run. But no hard facts then. Phew. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JamboRobbo Posted April 23, 2008 Share Posted April 23, 2008 Laughable. I agree, it's laughable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JamboRobbo Posted April 23, 2008 Share Posted April 23, 2008 But no hard facts then. Phew. Nope. Just observation of what happened last time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eckauskas Posted April 23, 2008 Share Posted April 23, 2008 I agree, it's laughable. Imagine signing what seems to be a very promising player to a long contract. ****ing joke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JamboRobbo Posted April 23, 2008 Share Posted April 23, 2008 Imagine signing what seems to be a very promising player to a long contract. ****ing joke. Woosh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Bapswent Posted April 23, 2008 Share Posted April 23, 2008 Nope. Just observation of what happened last time. Right. Just wanted to know what factual basis we are placing our stock in the fact that a promising youngster has signed a 5 year deal and how the story reflects a wholly negative aspect of the club. Seeing as we are basing it on assumption, im far more happy to call for thier heads.... SACK THE BOARD! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eckauskas Posted April 23, 2008 Share Posted April 23, 2008 Woosh. I agree. Sack the board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drylaw Hearts Posted April 23, 2008 Share Posted April 23, 2008 Wouldn't shed a tear if he was punted with Frail. Neither would I. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horse Posted April 23, 2008 Share Posted April 23, 2008 If he was that good would the new contract not have been offered before now and along with a place in the 1st team when we could not score v Falkirk and Kilmarnock? Not saying he is not good as he looked OK in the friendly on Saturday just timing seems a bit strange. Maybe they think it will help shift a few season tickets as we try to break the 1000 mark:rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Bapswent Posted April 23, 2008 Share Posted April 23, 2008 If he was that good would the new contract not have been offered before now and along with a place in the 1st team when we could not score v Falkirk and Kilmarnock? Not saying he is not good as he looked OK in the friendly on Saturday just timing seems a bit strange. Maybe they think it will help shift a few season tickets as we try to break the 1000 mark:rolleyes: Cracking, when all else fails, roll out the 'its only to get season tickets sold' routine. of course over looking that, in order for a signing to sell season tickets, the signing would have to be decent....and therefore a good, positive thing...not a negative one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quitongo Posted April 23, 2008 Share Posted April 23, 2008 Just waiting for the big news that Clum has signed a 5 year deal!!!! Or a 5 year extension to his current 5 year deal. Wouldn't put it past them! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan Drago Posted April 23, 2008 Share Posted April 23, 2008 if we're getting a new manager in the summer, would it not be an idea to wait to see what they think? What difference would a couple of months make? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hans007 Posted April 23, 2008 Share Posted April 23, 2008 Or a 5 year extension to his current 5 year deal. Wouldn't put it past them! How many would attend Clum's testimonial? I reckon they'd even struggle to find opposition! He could get 10 of his dancing mates from the Cav on a Sunday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K1874M Posted April 23, 2008 Share Posted April 23, 2008 FFS guys, one of our most promising youngsters commits his future to the club and it's immediately met with negative comments. How do you know Frail and the other youth coaches haven't recommended this to Vlad and he's sanctioned it?! Well done HMFC for sorting a contract out... We could sign Kaka and I'd still be ****ed off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JamboRobbo Posted April 23, 2008 Share Posted April 23, 2008 Right. Just wanted to know what factual basis we are placing our stock in the fact that a promising youngster has signed a 5 year deal and how the story reflects a wholly negative aspect of the club. On the basis that we dished out a load not that long ago and they are all on Seeing as we are basing it on assumption, im far more happy to call for thier heads.... SACK THE BOARD! woosh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JamboRobbo Posted April 23, 2008 Share Posted April 23, 2008 I agree. Sack the board. Just appointing a manager, and letting him manage, would be a lot simpler. Agree RR should fall on his knife though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Bapswent Posted April 23, 2008 Share Posted April 23, 2008 woosh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eckauskas Posted April 23, 2008 Share Posted April 23, 2008 Just appointing a manager, and letting him manage, would be a lot simpler. Agree RR should fall on his knife though. Top post. Sack the board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trotter Posted April 23, 2008 Share Posted April 23, 2008 Sorry, did i miss something here?? Where about in that article does it say exactly who he signed the deal with??? Or am I just being thick? As far as I can see it doesn't mention anything about Vlad, Rodney or any other memeber of out 'esteemed board' :confused: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Del1812 Posted April 23, 2008 Share Posted April 23, 2008 Bit confused by this. Gary was asked at the press conference after the game if he was on a long term deal and he said 'Yes, 5 years'. Now, four days later he's just signed a 4-year deal?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Bapswent Posted April 23, 2008 Share Posted April 23, 2008 Bit confused by this. Gary was asked at the press conference after the game if he was on a long term deal and he said 'Yes, 5 years'. Now, four days later he's just signed a 4-year deal?! He's a footballer, not a mathematician. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JamboRobbo Posted April 23, 2008 Share Posted April 23, 2008 Bit confused by this. Gary was asked at the press conference after the game if he was on a long term deal and he said 'Yes, 5 years'. Now, four days later he's just signed a 4-year deal?! Excellent - either he's going nowhere for nine years, or someone is trying to spin some good news out of nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Bill Posted April 23, 2008 Share Posted April 23, 2008 It's great news, isn't it Shep? Buffalo Bill . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K1874M Posted April 23, 2008 Share Posted April 23, 2008 Bit confused by this. Gary was asked at the press conference after the game if he was on a long term deal and he said 'Yes, 5 years'. Now, four days later he's just signed a 4-year deal?! Hearts making up spin to give to fans? Never, dont believe it. Who put out the press release? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horse Posted April 23, 2008 Share Posted April 23, 2008 Cracking, when all else fails, roll out the 'its only to get season tickets sold' routine. of course over looking that, in order for a signing to sell season tickets, the signing would have to be decent....and therefore a good, positive thing...not a negative one. You'll find the ST remark had a wee sarcastic rolly eye sign Dr. Next time just answer the point in the post. Chin up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jammy T Posted April 23, 2008 Share Posted April 23, 2008 Neutral on this. Decent enough prospect. The deal is irrelvant if he doesnt have a good manager to bring out the best in him There is a difference IMO between getting youth players WHO LOOK LIKE THEY HAVE A CHANCE OF MAKING IT signed up on longer contracts without our new manager (pah) in place and say, extending the contract of a Kaunas dud, or re-signing a current squad player or outside player without our new manager (pah) in place Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Del1812 Posted April 23, 2008 Share Posted April 23, 2008 Hearts making up spin to give to fans? Never, dont believe it. Who put out the press release? I think he has actually signed a new deal. As I said, he did say 5 years and now he's signed a new four deal. Maybe he's triggered something in his existing deal that require a new one with more cash/incentives/guarantees to be drawn up, a bit like Eggert's. I was surprised when Glen said that at the time because I hadn't heard he had signed a long term deal and had even heard from a source that he wasn't wanting to sign a long term deal. Maybe when the media asked him on Saturday he said 5-years knowing he was about to sign a new deal... and he can't count. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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