The Scottish game s#cks

[alwaysthereinspirit]

So now an ex OF captain wants us to believe that last nights stramash was just handbags at 10 paces and not a big deal.

Didn't we get fined and warned about our future conduct for way less than on field fighting.

We had three players booked for diving (they didn't) that will go against us at the end of the season and more than likely another big fine. Time for Mad Vlad to take them on in the courts.

[Ben Dover]

The powers that be dont even attempt to disguise it any more. Rangers, or certainly Rangers 'minded' people, run the game up here and thats that

[Gambo]

We also had Ferguson and McGeady running and pushing players in the chest during the game and getting off with a warning. Yet we had Zaliukas swinging an arm and missing and getting a straight red card.

[Hilary Briss]

So now an ex OF captain wants us to believe that last nights stramash was just handbags at 10 paces and not a big deal.

Didn't we get fined and warned about our future conduct for way less than on field fighting.

We had three players booked for diving (they didn't) that will go against us at the end of the season and more than likely another big fine. Time for Mad Vlad to take them on in the courts.

 

Its a total joke mate. Setanta showed after the game McManus clearly punching bazza in the coupon at the final whistle, which sparked the trouble, and not a thing mentioned in any of the papers. The managers come out and say its all part of the commitment & passion of an OF game and the SFA do nowt about it.

[rond]

Its a total joke mate. Setanta showed after the game McManus clearly punching bazza in the coupon at the final whistle, which sparked the trouble, and not a thing mentioned in any of the papers. The managers come out and say its all part of the commitment & passion of an OF game and the SFA do nowt about it.

 

I,d give McManus a medal for punchin Bazza,overated little scrote.

[lambojambo]

Its a total joke mate. Setanta showed after the game McManus clearly punching bazza in the coupon at the final whistle, which sparked the trouble, and not a thing mentioned in any of the papers. The managers come out and say its all part of the commitment & passion of an OF game and the SFA do nowt about it.

 

 

 

Yes it didn't take long for the OF media bandwagon to roll out the old OF pundits to convince everybody that this was just "handbags"!!!

 

If any other Clubs had been involved, this would have led to an immediate SFA investigation with "bringing the game into disrepute" charges!

 

The irony is that Gordon Smith was sitting watching all of this in front of his very eyes. However , like Strachan, he will have seen "nothing"!

[Del1812]

Unbelievably, Chick Young makes a great point in his column on the BBC website.

 

People like Boyd can come out and say 'Oh, it's nothing, you remember the time when we all beat the **** out of each other? This was nothing compared to that' and think that makes it all right. How anyone could defend actions like that at the end of a football game by saying, 'oh it's just a bit of handbags' is beyond me when everybody knows the surreal amount of hatred that occurs in that derby match.

 

Back to what Chic Dung said. While the rest of his column appeared to be very Rangers biased, shock, he points out that Rangers and Celtic players should be taken to Glasgow's main hospitals at 3am in the morning as nurses and doctors try to patch up the victims of another post-OF in-fighting in Glasgow. The amount of hatred surrounding the fixture is frightening and it's about time the players stopped being like a bunch of children and started taking responsibility for what they are doing.

[lambojambo]

Unbelievably, Chick Young makes a great point in his column on the BBC website.

 

People like Boyd can come out and say 'Oh, it's nothing, you remember the time when we all beat the **** out of each other? This was nothing compared to that' and think that makes it all right. How anyone could defend actions like that at the end of a football game by saying, 'oh it's just a bit of handbags' is beyond me when everybody knows the surreal amount of hatred that occurs in that derby match.

 

Back to what Chic Dung said. While the rest of his column appeared to be very Rangers biased, shock, he points out that Rangers and Celtic players should be taken to Glasgow's main hospitals at 3am in the morning as nurses and doctors try to patch up the victims of another post-OF in-fighting in Glasgow. The amount of hatred surrounding the fixture is frightening and it's about time the players stopped being like a bunch of children and started taking responsibility for what they are doing.

 

 

 

I never thought I would say this - WELL SAID CHICK!!!

[John Findlay]

I never thought I would say this - WELL SAID CHICK!!!

 

Here's the catch. Chick knows he can say this, Traynor knows he can say this, Spiers knows he can say this. Everyone outside the OF will say yes well said them but, they know it wont change anything but, it makes them look good to everyone else.

 

 

 

John

[Ben Dover]

However Dung hasn't really accused anybody of anything so whilst it maybe appears to us neutrals that he's 'standing up and being counted' , he hasn't really ruffled any OF feathers at all

[Jarhead]

We also had Ferguson and McGeady running and pushing players in the chest during the game and getting off with a warning. Yet we had Zaliukas swinging an arm and missing and getting a straight red card.

 

These sort of things always remind me of an interview Hugh Dallas gave to SOS after he retired.

He openly admitted that the rules were not enforced for OF games because they were, erm, OF games. These games had to be seen in a different light, it's the greatest derby in the world don't you know!

What a load of cobblers but I think it just goes to highlight the insular nature of Scottish football and those that run it.

[Miller Jambo 60]

We also had Ferguson and McGeady running and pushing players in the chest during the game and getting off with a warning. Yet we had Zaliukas swinging an arm and missing and getting a straight red card.

 

SORRY WEEGIE GFA BIAST they are cheating fanks

[grumpyjambo]

These sort of things always remind me of an interview Hugh Dallas gave to SOS after he retired.

He openly admitted that the rules were not enforced for OF games because they were, erm, OF games. These games had to be seen in a different light, it's the greatest derby in the world don't you know!

What a load of cobblers but I think it just goes to highlight the insular nature of Scottish football and those that run it.

 

Willie Young said the same on Radio Scotland

[John Findlay]

The non-OF amongst us know the Scottish game is rotten to the core. The OF amongst us know it is rotten to the core. The media know it is rotten to the core but, the difference is the first want to change it but two and three dont. Two and three always win. Shame on the rest of us for letting them.

 

John

[Jarhead]

Willie Young said the same on Radio Scotland

 

They don't even deny it anymore.

It's a shame that every other clubs gonads shrunk after the Davies/Miko 'incident'.

That was the opportunity for change.

[Flux]

who needs evidence....

 

[Del1812]

They don't even deny it anymore.

It's a shame that every other clubs gonads shrunk after the Davies/Miko 'incident'.

That was the opportunity for change.

 

That's why I no longer sympathize with other, smaller, SPL teams when decisions don't go their way against the OF. There has probably never been as outrageously biased decision as the one that went against us that fateful night. That was the time for something to be done but every other team didn't have the guts to stand up and we were the ones who were pillared in the end.

[alwaysthereinspirit]

That's why I no longer sympathize with other, smaller, SPL teams when decisions don't go their way against the OF. There has probably never been as outrageously biased decision as the one that went against us that fateful night. That was the time for something to be done but every other team didn't have the guts to stand up and we were the ones who were pillared in the end.

 

Rangers got 3 points that night instead of the 1 they should have got.

Those 2 points in November (?) won them the league by 1 point. Unbelievable.

Scottish football will forever live in the dark ages.

[Del1812]

Rangers got 3 points that night instead of the 1 they should have got.

Those 2 points in November (?) won them the league by 1 point. Unbelievable.

Scottish football will forever live in the dark ages.

 

Certain it was much later. Was it not in March?

[Mr Romanov Saviour of HMFC]

It's sad to see Davie Weirs change in attitude since he moved to the Old Firm.

 

Really dislike the guy now, he's got that OF mentality down to a tee.

 

Sickening.

[Del1812]

It's sad to see Davie Weirs change in attitude since he moved to the Old Firm.

 

Really dislike the guy now, he's got that OF mentality down to a tee.

 

Sickening.

 

Spot on. It's really, really irritating. Thomson is a specialist at it too and Brown's (sad and pathetic attempts at) wind-up games have just gotten ridiculous.

[Denny Crane]

who needs evidence....

 

 

Also interesting to note that one's an ex-Jambo and the other's an ex-Hibby. So what started it? 7-0 or 107 years!!?

[Tazio]

Just watching the highlights and noticed something I hadn't clocked when I saw them last night.

 

When Cuellar handled the ball a Celtic sub warming up made his way onto the pitch on the left hand side of the goal. Either saying it was a handball or miming a red card being given.

[Tazio]

Good news.

 

Fraser Wishart saw nothing violent or unbecoming in the players behaviour at the end of the match.

 

Interesting as well that as the melee was going on McDonald walked away from it and starting waving his arms at the Celtic fans and getting them even more over excited.

 

Imagine if that had been a Motherwell - Aberdeen game. The players would suddenly be a disgrace to the game.

[Guest S.U.S.S.]

And this is the game they talk about taking overseas to showcase Scottish football abroad.

[Saint Jambo]

Rangers got 3 points that night instead of the 1 they should have got.

Those 2 points in November (?) won them the league by 1 point. Unbelievable.

Scottish football will forever live in the dark ages.

The game was in March. But don't worry these things have a way of evening themselves up over the season. When Celtic came to Tynie a couple of weeks before the end of the season, Celtic were winning 2-1 when Pressley went down in the box and recieved a 2nd booking and was sent off for diving. No surprises that TV replays showed he had been fouled. Result Celtic left Tynie with 2 more points than they deserved, just like Rangers. General consensus, one benefited Rangers, one benefited Celtic, so everything is even. No concern for the non-OF team involved.

 

Back to what Chic Dung said. While the rest of his column appeared to be very Rangers biased, shock, he points out that Rangers and Celtic players should be taken to Glasgow's main hospitals at 3am in the morning as nurses and doctors try to patch up the victims of another post-OF in-fighting in Glasgow. The amount of hatred surrounding the fixture is frightening and it's about time the players stopped being like a bunch of children and started taking responsibility for what they are doing.

The trouble with this is Young also said that the referee was right to not book players early on for bookable offenses, because then both sides would have ended the game with several players sent off. Now if they are breaking the rules, why is this unacceptable? Maybe they'd even learn they had to improve their behaviour in the future. But oh no, it's the OF.

[Drew Busby !]

I can only re-iterate whats already been said in this thread. As The Herald reports, aiming a punch at an opponent in an old-firm game doesn't seem to merit anything other than passing comment. Compare and contrast with how actively our on the field behaviour has been policed this season ... how eagerly the TV evidence of Paul Hartley's leg "swipe" against smellick a while back was pursued ... how Gordon Smith ... well enough said about Gordon Smith eh ...

 

Disgusting double standards operate in this country.

 

"Stephen McManus was also cautioned for his altercation with Barry Ferguson. The two captains collided, with television evidence showing McManus to have aimed a swing at Ferguson, who retaliated angrily. McManus' booking takes him to the 15-point threshold and one more caution will lead to an automatic ban."

http://www.theherald.co.uk/sport/headlines/display.var.2206530.0.Celtic_to_investigate_crowd_problems_but_unlikely_to_be_fined.php

[Del1812]

I can only re-iterate whats already been said in this thread. As The Herald reports, aiming a punch at an opponent in an old-firm game doesn't seem to merit anything other than passing comment. Compare and contrast with how actively our on the field behaviour has been policed this season ... how eagerly the TV evidence of Paul Hartley's leg "swipe" against smellick a while back was pursued ... how Gordon Smith ... well enough said about Gordon Smith eh ...

 

Disgusting double standards operate in this country.

 

"Stephen McManus was also cautioned for his altercation with Barry Ferguson. The two captains collided, with television evidence showing McManus to have aimed a swing at Ferguson, who retaliated angrily. McManus' booking takes him to the 15-point threshold and one more caution will lead to an automatic ban."

http://www.theherald.co.uk/sport/headlines/display.var.2206530.0.Celtic_to_investigate_crowd_problems_but_unlikely_to_be_fined.php

 

The worst, most blood boiling aspect of that incident was that no pundit, journalist or television replay showed Ross Wallace deliberately running towards Hartley before elbowing in the face. Hartley, clearly taken aback, sands stunned for a second before running and booting Wallace in the air.

 

While you can't defend what Hartley did, he was clearly provoked. Hartley was hounded by the media who deliberately ignored Wallace's offence. The only way to actually see what happened was to watch the moment live and pause the tape.

 

AAAAAAAAAAARRGGHHH - ****ing biased west coast *****!!!!

[jamboinglasgow]

Just watching the highlights and noticed something I hadn't clocked when I saw them last night.

 

When Cuellar handled the ball a Celtic sub warming up made his way onto the pitch on the left hand side of the goal. Either saying it was a handball or miming a red card being given.

 

 

just saw that, the guy should at least be booked for entering the field of play without authorisation, then booked again for attempting to wind up the oppent.

 

its just disgusting that they claim this showcases scottish football, think a Edinburgh Derby is a better showcase.

[paulah]

The media always seem to be blind when the weegies do anything wrong,but their eyes are wide open when it comes to Edinburgh,and they keep goin on about how we are paranoid and how we always scream media conspiracy,well hopefully one day they'l see why,because their corrupt to the core

[Fareastjambo]

Sadly nothing will change in the Scottish game. The SFA, sorry GFA, is run by people who want this status quo. It suits them. They don't give a toss about the other teams in the SPL no matter how much the fans complain about them. What they forget is that without the rest of us there wouldn't be a league at all. It would be excellent if all the other teams could band together and strike about the situation, but there again, pigs might fly. However, it might make the powers that be take notice because it seems to me that nothing else will. Scottish football is stuck in a rut that is rotten to the core.

[Slick 21]

Sadly nothing will change in the Scottish game. The SFA, sorry GFA, is run by people who want this status quo. It suits them. They don't give a toss about the other teams in the SPL no matter how much the fans complain about them. What they forget is that without the rest of us there wouldn't be a league at all. It would be excellent if all the other teams could band together and strike about the situation, but there again, pigs might fly. However, it might make the powers that be take notice because it seems to me that nothing else will. Scottish football is stuck in a rut that is rotten to the core.

 

Couldn`t agree more. Scottish (WEEJ) Football IS vile and embarrasing at times. Had that been an Edinburgh derby............It would be splashed everywhere. This will come to very little, if indeed anything.

[boabster]

Sadly nothing will change in the Scottish game. The SFA, sorry GFA, is run by people who want this status quo. It suits them. They don't give a toss about the other teams in the SPL no matter how much the fans complain about them. What they forget is that without the rest of us there wouldn't be a league at all. It would be excellent if all the other teams could band together and strike about the situation, but there again, pigs might fly. However, it might make the powers that be take notice because it seems to me that nothing else will. Scottish football is stuck in a rut that is rotten to the core.

 

That would simply never happen.

 

The chairmen and board members of almost every other club have deep rooted OF leanings one way or the other and would rather see the OF flourish than their own clubs deep down.

 

This was particularly apparent after the Davies outrage when they had the perfect opportunity to back a club so obviously wronged but turned and looked the other way.

 

It would have been nice if even one club could have bucked the trend but the silence was deafening. Most , if not all , of the other clubs have been victim to at least one outrageous piece of SFA cheating down the years but they seem to accept this as part of the game and have no wish to see things change.

 

At least we , as a club , can hold our heads up high on this one as we have at least had a go at trying to highlight the blatant corruption within our rancid game but the rest can hang their heads in shame at their lack of bottle.

[Makween]

My favourite thing about this thread's the way that the OP's censored "sucks".

[alwaysthereinspirit]

My favourite thing about this thread's the way that the OP's censored "sucks".

 

I mostly use it for the letter # as I refuse to write #ibs or #obos. :107years: