topcat Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 Most people seem to be a bit annoyed at Hibs treatment of the ticket sales to Hearts Supporters but would we like to see their supporters have to put up with it or would we rather Hearts did the right thing and didn't stoop to their level. I can see both sides to the argument but I'm dithering What do you all think Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paolo Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 Given we need the dole and it means we will get it sooner, then, I guess yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Locky Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 Abso-fecking-lutely. They have no valid grounds to sell us them directly other than the fact they are paranoid they won't get their money. Pathetic little people the lot of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambos1983 Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 I would cut their allocation to one section. They can't afford to do likewise as they will get nowhere near a fullhouse. They are a horrible lot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rand Paul's Ray Bans Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 First of all, I don't blame Hibs for selling tickets to us directly after our recent record in bank transactions. But it isn't an excuse for them to hike prices and apply ludicrous postal charges. Also they're being a bunch of welts through various other means. Feck the fuds. An eye for an aye. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott herbertson Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 I think we should offer them tickets at ?1 a head, pay at the gate a) as we are concerned that so few of them are turning up both to derbies and their home fixtures and we want a decent atmosphere for the game given their supporters personal financial problems c) so we have a full house to watch the regular tanking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
portobellojambo1 Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 I would hope that Hearts will offer the same courtesy as Hibs offered us, i.e. we write to Hibernian and ask them that they guarantee we are paid within the given time scale should we allow them to sell their own allocation of tickets. If Hibernian respond with a positive answer then we allow them to sell the tickets, as we then have evidence to use against them if they fail to pay up. If, however they respond negatively or don't respond at all, as Hearts have done on this occasion, then we sell to them direct. While it is very easy to blame Celtic and Hibs for the ticket arrangements imposed for these up coming fixtures they both asked Hearts the same question and Hearts failed to respond positively, Why should other clubs then suffer financially, especially in light of our owners recent history of failing to pay his own employees on time. Going tit for tat doesn't solve anything, it is the sort of attitude primary school children adopt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gambo Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 I would hope that Hearts will offer the same courtesy as Hibs offered us, i.e. we write to Hibernian and ask them that they guarantee we are paid within the given time scale should we allow them to sell their own allocation of tickets. If they did write to us, i hope that we responded to their cheeky and disrespectful letter by shoving it where it belongs, straight in the *** bin. Are Rangers/Spurs banging down our doors awaiting unpaid ticket monies? *** Welts of the highest order. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Just Came To Say Kello Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 Moral high ground. Let them be petty about it. We're better anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Problem Officer? Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 They won't sell out either way, FACT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
portobellojambo1 Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 If they did write to us, i hope that we responded to their cheeky and disrespectful letter by shoving it where it belongs, straight in the *** bin. Are Rangers/Spurs banging down our doors awaiting unpaid ticket monies? *** Welts of the highest order. I would say the only welt in this case Gambo is the person who is deciding if and when he will pay his own employees, and creating uncertainty in third parties. But if it makes people feel better to deflect blame onto Hibs for a situation created by Vladimir Romanov then bash on with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToadKiller Dog Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 If they did write to us, i hope that we responded to their cheeky and disrespectful letter by shoving it where it belongs, straight in the *** bin. Are Rangers/Spurs banging down our doors awaiting unpaid ticket monies? *** Welts of the highest order. To be fair things have changed since those two games . I think it is a bit shitty but understandable why they have done this , Just another instance of why the game in scotland is going down the tubes . . I hope hearts dont do as hibs and celtic have done . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambos1983 Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 Sorry but any sympathy people are showing should disappear when they are charging 6 quid postage. Regardless if it is per application that's outrageous Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambof3tornado Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 First of all, I don't blame Hibs for selling tickets to us directly after our recent record in bank transactions. But it isn't an excuse for them to hike prices and apply ludicrous postal charges. Also they're being a bunch of welts through various other means. Feck the fuds. An eye for an aye. they havent hiked prices and the postal charge is per application so no more a rip off than Hearts charging you to print your own ticket at home!!! much ado about nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Old Tolbooth Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 It's not the selling of tickets direct to Hearts fans that's bothering me, I can see why they're doing it, but it doesn't give them the right to completely rip the pish out of Hearts supporters and make us pay way over the odds with a ?6 handling fee, that's utterly criminal! With that in mind then I say we sell direct to them and charge them exactly the same back as what they've done to us, they can hardly complain about it if/when we do it, can they? I liked someone's idea on Facebook, send Hearts ?20 and watch it in the house/pub, or appeal to Hearts to show a beam back and get the hospitality suites sold out and lets make some money from this ourselves, a tenner a ticket or thereabouts would convince me to do that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gambo Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 I would say the only welt in this case Gambo is the person who is deciding if and when he will pay his own employees, and creating uncertainty in third parties. But if it makes people feel better to deflect blame onto Hibs for a situation created by Vladimir Romanov then bash on with it. He is our welt though. Have these plums had to knock down our doors before for payment(i am sure the EEN would have told us so if that was the case)?. We have had over the years previous problems with wages so why do this now? Do we write to them and ask if they are going to put a team on the park who will give us a game for once? No, because there should be respect (not at fan level) between local clubs. Hibs imo have crossed the line big style here. As a side issue, does anyone know what admin charges Hibs fans are being charged for a ticket to this game? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Old Tolbooth Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 they havent hiked prices and the postal charge is per application so no more a rip off than Hearts charging you to print your own ticket at home!!! much ado about nothing. You're missing the point though, Hibs don't charge the Old Firm fans ?6 handling charge, so why should they charge Hearts fans this amount? Also, not all fans are in a position to buy in bulk and share the cost, so no, it's not 'much ado about nothing', we're being screwed by that poisonous little penny pinching halfwit because Hibs are desperate for cash, and because their little tin pot club are jealous that we might be jumping into bed with the Council at some point to explore new stadium possibilities, they're hatred and bitterness towards us knows no ends. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drylaw Hearts Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 No. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
portobellojambo1 Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 Sorry but any sympathy people are showing should disappear when they are charging 6 quid postage. Regardless if it is per application that's outrageous I believe Hibs are charging ?6.00, which consists of ?5.45 special delivery costs (a cost determined by Royal Mail I believe, that being the maximum) and 55p admin charge, Celtic are charging ?6.70 which consists of ?5.20 special delivery costs and ?1.50 admin costs, so presumably from that ?1.50 admin cost Celtic are paying 20p per request towards delivery costs. None of these costs would be getting incurred at all if fecking Romanov was running our club properly. And try buying a ticket from Hearts, and asking for it to be sent by special delivery, and have a look at the additional admin cost that has also been deducted, all football clubs rip the pish in relation to this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Old Tolbooth Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 He is our welt though. Have these plums had to knock down our doors before for payment(i am sure the EEN would have told us so if that was the case)?. We have had over the years previous problems with wages so why do this now? Do we write to them and ask if they are going to put a team on the park who will give us a game for once? No, because there should be respect (not at fan level) between local clubs. Hibs imo have crossed the line big style here. As a side issue, does anyone know what admin charges Hibs fans are being charged for a ticket to this game? Completely agree Gambo Here's the info you're looking for here Clydesdale Bank Premier LeagueHibernian V Hearts Monday 2nd January 2012 Home - Kick Off 12.15pm Easter Road Stadium Tickets for this match are on sale to supporters who are on the Hibernian Ticket Office Database only* and available by telephoning the call centre on 0844 844 1875 option 1, online here or in person at the Ticket Office or Club Store during normal office opening times. *Tickets for this match cannot be purchased by supporters who have not bought tickets for any home fixture before or who are not on the Hibernian Ticket Office Database. The purchaser will be informed that they themselves will be responsible for all attendees if all tickets are purchased in their name. Phone / Online: Please note a booking fee of ?1.50 per ticket, applicable to adults and concessions will be charged. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambos1983 Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 As an aside surely with the losses hibs posted this year and the fact they'll post bigger losses next year it would only be prudent to do the same. Maybe charge 10 quid postage, seems fair enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loveofthegame Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 Yes. And i'd charge the *******s SEVEN quid for delivery. I'm petty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gambo Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 , but it doesn't give them the right to completely rip the pish out of Hearts supporters and make us pay way over the odds with a ?6 handling fee, that's utterly criminal! I liked someone's idea on Facebook, send Hearts ?20 and watch it in the house/pub, Whilst not liking the idea of not being at fester road for a derby(i think we can beat that shower with or without a large support), i am liking that idea above. Imagine being dictated to how you buy a ticket and how it will be sent to you by the hobos, and being shafted for it at the same time! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colinmaroon Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 Whilst not liking the idea of not being at fester road for a derby(i think we can beat that shower with or without a large support), i am liking that idea above. Imagine being dictated to how you buy a ticket and how it will be sent to you by the hobos, and being shafted for it at the same time! Boycott and then they can get their ?0.00 right away! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stanley_ Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 No idea why someone would decide not to go because of a ?6 charge. If four of you apply then it's ?1.50/person. If you buy a ticket online for a Hearts match then you get a ?1.50 admin fee even if you print the ticket off yourself. If you really care about going to the derby then you'll be there regardless of extra fees and which club is selling you the ticket. Personally, I couldn't care less if I buy my ticket from Hearts or directly from Hibs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craigieboy Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 I really don't see how anyone can blame hibs for any of this. As much as I have little or no time for them, they are only doing what will guarantee them hard cash, quickly. Let's face it, with gates of around 8000, they'll be in a dire finacial state very quickly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neave Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 Let's not stoop to their small-minded level. Keep it as normal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAYEL Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 Let them play infront of 4 empty stands. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jezza Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 Silence is deafening once again from the Hearts board on this one, instead of sticking up for ourselves and calling the wee team a disgrace it seems the board or Romanov only appear to spraff some shite about the mafia when they can be arsed. Hibs are basically saying we are in shite and they can't trust us and I would like a response telling them to mind there own business and there own worries but no, nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay B-8) Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 hibs can rub that ?6 on there titties when we're humping them at new year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingantti1874 Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 People shouldn't be omgoing IMO... They were worried that they wouldn't get their money - well how about they don't get any ******* money at all... Save your ticket money and use it to buy shares when they no doubt become available Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambof3tornado Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 Is it about not getting their money? Dont they do the same with the old firm? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topcat Posted November 29, 2011 Author Share Posted November 29, 2011 No. Negative Post IMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drylaw Hearts Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 Negative Post IMO It's the clubs own fault we're in this situation and whilst I think Hibs are in no doubt using it as an exercise to publically humiliate Hearts by further highlighting our lack of cash, we should think smarter rather than simply copy this stunt by Petrie. For the next game we should offer Hibs fans a discount on the match ticket and highlight we are encouraging them to actually attend a match instead of spending the day doing something else which seems to be on the increase, going by their ever dwindling shitty little support. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve_Jersey_HMFC Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 He is our welt though. Have these plums had to knock down our doors before for payment(i am sure the EEN would have told us so if that was the case)?. We have had over the years previous problems with wages so why do this now? Do we write to them and ask if they are going to put a team on the park who will give us a game for once? No, because there should be respect (not at fan level) between local clubs. Hibs imo have crossed the line big style here. As a side issue, does anyone know what admin charges Hibs fans are being charged for a ticket to this game? Absolutely Up until now Hearts and Hibs have always offered a level of respect off the pitch. For example when we cut the allocations of rangers and celtic a few years back when we were filling tynie we didnt do it to Hibs and likewise the only time they cut our allocation was when understandably they were missing their east stand. And while we've both made old firm and others buy away tickets direct from the club we've always afforded each other the usual ticketing arrangements Hibs pettiness in the last few weeks with their comments re our stadium and now this really shows what a small minded bitter little club they have become. Always been the case with their smelly support but now its crept into the management at the club Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bazman Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 I might be mistaken but is this not what do to the old firm? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bazman Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 On the celtic site it says "hearts,hibs and st mirren sell tickets direct to fans" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gasman Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 Abso-fecking-lutely. They have no valid grounds to sell us them directly other than the fact they are paranoid they won't get their money. Pathetic little people the lot of them. You want us to be "pathetic little people" as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC_Trotski Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 For those focusing on the ?6 mail charges, would they rather it was just the bog standard ?1.50 admin fee (which Hearts charge) and the tickets got sent out first (or second) class during December and got caught up in the Christmas mail? The hobos aren't making much (if any) money on the postage, and if anything are doing the fans a favour by making sure we get the tickets by recorded delivery. Not overly happy about having to go through them to get tickets as I might not be guaranteed a seat in the upper tier, but I'm not going to give up a game at fester road over the fact I have to go through them to get tickets rather than going through Hearts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clerry Jambo Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 http://www.scotsman.com/sport/football/european/hearts_fans_plan_to_boycott_games_at_hibs_and_celtic_over_ticket_prices_1_1988226 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mahgrassyshoes Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 I don't think we should put their fans through that. Treat others as you expect them to treat you and all that jazz. The club aren't really making any money from it, Royal Mail are. And any one who uses royal mail regularly will know that special delivery is the only way you can trust the royal mail with anything remotely important. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mahgrassyshoes Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 Doubler Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marvin Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 double post Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marvin Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 Sorry but any sympathy people are showing should disappear when they are charging 6 quid postage. Regardless if it is per application that's outrageous HOW MUCH????? Seriously. Where are they posting them from, Thailand? Or are the muppets so scared of more industrial action in the public sector they need some way of giving their benefit dependant supporters some sort of extra funds. Fuds the lot of them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erik Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 The issue I'd have would be with the fact that Hibs are making the postage compulsory. That for me is the bit which is ridiculous. Folk have already explained that the special delivery costs are more of a Royal Mail issue, but for me, the issue would be not being allowed to go pick up my ticket in person and save the ?6. I live about 15 mins walk from Easter Road, so it'd be nice to be given the option of collecting a ticket rather being FORCED to pay an extra ?6 to have it delivered to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mahgrassyshoes Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 The issue I'd have would be with the fact that Hibs are making the postage compulsory. That for me is the bit which is ridiculous. Folk have already explained that the special delivery costs are more of a Royal Mail issue, but for me, the issue would be not being allowed to go pick up my ticket in person and save the ?6. I live about 15 mins walk from Easter Road, so it'd be nice to be given the option of collecting a ticket rather being FORCED to pay an extra ?6 to have it delivered to me. I agree, i live in dunfermline but work at the gyle and will drive in/get the bus to tynie if i need to get tickets. i would just do the same in this instance. Total nuisance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rossthejambo Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 Not overly fussed, they probably won't even sell them all anyway seeing as they'll be losing a relegation battle when March comes around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topcat Posted November 29, 2011 Author Share Posted November 29, 2011 I've thought about it and I reckon if Hearts can give Hibs the tickets and wait for the money without causing themselves cashflow problems they shouldso Just to demonstrate in a high profile way that they can and so try to build confidence amongst potential creditors. They can then start spreading dark rumours about why Hibs needed the money for a January fixture in November Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hannibal Lecter Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 HOW MUCH????? Seriously. Where are they posting them from, Thailand? Or are the muppets so scared of more industrial action in the public sector they need some way of giving their benefit dependant supporters some sort of extra funds. Fuds the lot of them How many times do people need to have the postage cost explained?! They are being sent Special Delivery which costs ?5.26 franked mail/?5.45 stamps. At most that leaves a 75p admin charge whether you buy one or six tickets. Not like the ?6 is going into Hibs pockets, they can't help what Royal Mail charges for its services. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daydream Believer Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 I've thought about it and I reckon if Hearts can give Hibs the tickets and wait for the money without causing themselves cashflow problems they shouldso Just to demonstrate in a high profile way that they can and so try to build confidence amongst potential creditors. They can then start spreading dark rumours about why Hibs needed the money for a January fixture in November Yes. And pay the players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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