rick witter Posted November 24, 2011 Share Posted November 24, 2011 AS THE THREAD TITLE SAYS ONLY WAY IS DOWN FOR HEARTS IF WE CANT GET THE BALL IN THE NET. 13 LEAGUE GOALS ONLY SCORED. NOT GOOD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floyd Posted November 24, 2011 Share Posted November 24, 2011 AS THE THREAD TITLE SAYS ONLY WAY IS DOWN FOR HEARTS IF WE CANT GET THE BALL IN THE NET. 13 LEAGUE GOALS ONLY SCORED. NOT GOOD CAN YOU PLEASE STOP SHOUTING! Thank you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homme Posted November 24, 2011 Share Posted November 24, 2011 2nd best defensive record though In other words, do not go to Hearts games if you wish to be entertained. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Francis Albert Posted November 24, 2011 Share Posted November 24, 2011 2nd best defensive record though Despite having a bombscare centre back who gives away a goal a game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kennyblack'sshot Posted November 24, 2011 Share Posted November 24, 2011 AS THE THREAD TITLE SAYS ONLY WAY IS DOWN FOR HEARTS IF WE CANT GET THE BALL IN THE NET. 13 LEAGUE GOALS ONLY SCORED. NOT GOOD At this moment would you rather have 19 points and a GD of +3 or, say, 14 points and a GD of -8? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shapes Posted November 24, 2011 Share Posted November 24, 2011 We'll start scoring soon enough. Then I predict that we won't stop scoring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boab Posted November 24, 2011 Share Posted November 24, 2011 You're not Rick Witter out of Shed 7 are you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drylaw Hearts Posted November 24, 2011 Share Posted November 24, 2011 In other words, do not go to Hearts games if you wish to be entertained. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dobmisterdobster Posted November 24, 2011 Share Posted November 24, 2011 You're very emo when you type in caps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floyd Posted November 24, 2011 Share Posted November 24, 2011 You're not Rick Witter out of Shed 7 are you? Maybe he is Going for Gold with all that shouting? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Lithuania Posted November 25, 2011 Share Posted November 25, 2011 AS THE THREAD TITLE SAYS ONLY WAY IS DOWN FOR HEARTS IF WE CANT GET THE BALL IN THE NET. 13 LEAGUE GOALS ONLY SCORED. NOT GOOD You're not even trying to blend in are you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Problem Officer? Posted November 25, 2011 Share Posted November 25, 2011 indeed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddiepolio Posted November 25, 2011 Share Posted November 25, 2011 I was actually going to start a thread on this as I just noticed it too. Is there still a media ban from hearts? If not I would love one of the monkeys to ask csaba sergio straight out how he can justify constantly playing one striker with wingers on the wrong wings when we are the lowest scorers in the league. We are currently the least entertaining team in the league which is pretty hard to take. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingantti1874 Posted November 25, 2011 Share Posted November 25, 2011 Black, Jonson and more ice as the creative force and a midfielder up front and driver, touail, Elliott, Sutton generally no where near squad. You don't have to be Jose mourinho to work out we won't score many Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erik Posted November 25, 2011 Share Posted November 25, 2011 The post may be in caps. It may even reek. But...... the point is a valid one. One which we are all aware of and aside from all the "stop shouting" and "yer a hobo" deflections, we know is an issue. We arent scoring enough goals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heartsfc_fan Posted November 25, 2011 Share Posted November 25, 2011 AS THE THREAD TITLE SAYS ONLY WAY IS DOWN FOR HEARTS IF WE CANT GET THE BALL IN THE NET. 13 LEAGUE GOALS ONLY SCORED. NOT GOOD 2nd best defensive record we could win all our games 1-0 for all I care. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rossthejambo Posted November 25, 2011 Share Posted November 25, 2011 Not like it's the first time it's ever happened is it? Funny that the last time we did have a half decent scoring record we had a half decent midfield. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Locky Posted November 25, 2011 Share Posted November 25, 2011 Not really gonna score many goals without strikers. Catch 22 really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tokyo Drifter Posted November 25, 2011 Share Posted November 25, 2011 Things picked up under JJ in terms of scoring, but it's a problem we've had for years now. Even back in the "glory season" it was Hartley and Rudi banging in most of the goals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Agent Dale Cooper Posted November 25, 2011 Share Posted November 25, 2011 2nd best defensive record we could win all our games 1-0 for all I care. But we don't though? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i8hibsh Posted November 25, 2011 Share Posted November 25, 2011 It get?s worse Out of the 42 league clubs only 3 teams have scored less. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReillyD Posted November 25, 2011 Share Posted November 25, 2011 I agree inpart but we also really lack creativity in the middle of the park mostly as a result of choosing to play 3 defensive midfielders in the middle of midfield. We have Templeton, Skacel, Taouil, Novikovas, Robinson (whats happened to him), plus Stevenson who are all more creative. In saying that, was good to see the manager at least try something different at the weekend even if we didn't get a result on the day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cut The Crap Posted November 25, 2011 Share Posted November 25, 2011 It get?s worse Out of the 42 league clubs only 3 teams have scored less. Looks like Sergio is stamping his footballing philosophy on the team after all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FTH Posted November 25, 2011 Share Posted November 25, 2011 It get?s worse Out of the 42 league clubs only 3 teams have scored less. Also worth keeping in mind that there have been fewer lower leagues fixtures than there have been SPL. (12 or 13 games played to our 15) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the general Posted November 25, 2011 Share Posted November 25, 2011 In other words, do not go to Hearts games if you wish to be entertained. I was very entertained at the recent game at Tannadice and v Rangers,thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Brown Posted November 25, 2011 Share Posted November 25, 2011 In all my years we never really have been a free scoring team other than a handful of seasons. A big part is the quality of shooting from outside of the box, Rudi is the only present player who seems capable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nelly Terraces Posted November 25, 2011 Share Posted November 25, 2011 In other words, do not go to Hearts games if you wish to be entertained. Thousands don't, as the multiple empty seats tomorrow will testify. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wavydavy Posted November 25, 2011 Share Posted November 25, 2011 2nd best defensive record though Just as well because scoring so few goals is usually a problem reserved for the relegation clubs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReillyD Posted November 25, 2011 Share Posted November 25, 2011 Stevenson has been playing,his work rate is good but not creative imo,robinson is on the bench week in and week out,ive no problem playing 1 or 2 defensive midfielders but they have to be in the team to allow another midfielder to get foward and create/score whilst also contributing to attacks themselves at times,if he persists with the 3 defensive midfielders id like to see two wingers start Stevenson has been playing yes, but as a striker. Says it all about our philosophy. 0-0 seems to be our aim. Agree with most of the rest of what you say. I've no problem with 1 or 2 defensive midfielders. 3 is too much though, especially when it's 3 DM's plus a a midfielder up top. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Sheldon Cooper Posted November 25, 2011 Share Posted November 25, 2011 I was actually going to start a thread on this as I just noticed it too. Is there still a media ban from hearts? If not I would love one of the monkeys to ask csaba sergio straight out how he can justify constantly playing one striker with wingers on the wrong wings when we are the lowest scorers in the league. We are currently the least entertaining team in the league which is pretty hard to take. What's wrong with one up front? Templeton is better on the left than the right, hence why he plays there. When your full backs are pushing high up the pitch it makes sense for the wingers to cut inside, allowing the full backs to overlap and provide an extra attacking option. It's more of a European formation being used by a European manager, should be no surprise to anyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamhammer Posted November 25, 2011 Share Posted November 25, 2011 I think we are gonna give someone a proper hiding soon. Hope it's Pat's Penises from down the road. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radioactive Mince Posted November 25, 2011 Share Posted November 25, 2011 I think we are gonna give someone a proper hiding soon. Hope it's Pat's Penises from down the road. I was just gonna post this, albeit sarcastically You're for real, aren't you? :stare: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Debut 4 Posted November 25, 2011 Share Posted November 25, 2011 I think we are gonna give someone a proper hiding soon. Hope it's Pat's Penises from down the road. Not sure if i agree with that or ever believed in the theory that if you go a few games without scoring, despite creating many chances and playing well, that you are eventually going hammer someone using that basis. Who`s to say we`ll not keep missing chances week after week? Obviously we are going to hit the net soon, but it`s how many? We really need to give something a bit extra in the last third, be it more determination, more thought and cleverness and ultimately being more clinical. But until we show signs that we are improving on that front it`s very much in doubt as to how capable we are of hitting the net regularly. Last season it was good to see Hearts back to being the one we all know, being dangerous in front of goal and scoring regularly, certainly in the early part. For all his supposed faults JJ knew how to get out of players what they could give best and how to break teams down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N User Posted November 25, 2011 Share Posted November 25, 2011 I LOVE IT! WHO WATCHES FOTBAL FOR THE GOLS - ITS ALL ABOUT THE TAKLES! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
salvo69 Posted November 25, 2011 Share Posted November 25, 2011 At least it saves us money in goal bonuses Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
portobellojambo1 Posted November 25, 2011 Share Posted November 25, 2011 Not sure if i agree with that or ever believed in the theory that if you go a few games without scoring, despite creating many chances and playing well, that you are eventually going hammer someone using that basis. Who`s to say we`ll not keep missing chances week after week? Obviously we are going to hit the net soon, but it`s how many? We really need to give something a bit extra in the last third, be it more determination, more thought and cleverness and ultimately being more clinical. But until we show signs that we are improving on that front it`s very much in doubt as to how capable we are of hitting the net regularly. Last season it was good to see Hearts back to being the one we all know, being dangerous in front of goal and scoring regularly, certainly in the early part. For all his supposed faults JJ knew how to get out of players what they could give best and how to break teams down. Think the problem is we aren't really creating enough chances to even miss a percentage (which even John Robertson did), although it depends on what you class as chances. I posted last week that I was very surprised when John Sutton came off, as he had been instrumental in bringing midfielders into the game. The problem was he was having to come slightly deeper to pick up the ball, which was often played to him at chest height, and he was having to lay it off into midfielders paths I've never really understood any manager who, in a league game, fails to go more offensive when behind, whether you lose 1-0 or 10-0 you still get no points. Different in two legged European ties, you might expect the team to dig in away from home, and happily settle for a 1-0 loss, in the hope of turning the tie round at Tynecastle. But once we were behind last week we needed to get an additional man up front, we needed to try and save the game, Stephen Elliott should have come on to play alongside John Sutton, not as a replacement for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sydney from Sydney Posted November 25, 2011 Share Posted November 25, 2011 AS THE THREAD TITLE SAYS ONLY WAY IS DOWN FOR HEARTS IF WE CANT GET THE BALL IN THE NET. 13 LEAGUE GOALS ONLY SCORED. NOT GOOD Players who can't get a game might make a difference. We're predictable and easy to play(defend)against. The coach either has his hands tied by the owner or he's total mince. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Debut 4 Posted November 26, 2011 Share Posted November 26, 2011 Think the problem is we aren't really creating enough chances to even miss a percentage (which even John Robertson did), although it depends on what you class as chances. I posted last week that I was very surprised when John Sutton came off, as he had been instrumental in bringing midfielders into the game. The problem was he was having to come slightly deeper to pick up the ball, which was often played to him at chest height, and he was having to lay it off into midfielders paths I've never really understood any manager who, in a league game, fails to go more offensive when behind, whether you lose 1-0 or 10-0 you still get no points. Different in two legged European ties, you might expect the team to dig in away from home, and happily settle for a 1-0 loss, in the hope of turning the tie round at Tynecastle. But once we were behind last week we needed to get an additional man up front, we needed to try and save the game, Stephen Elliott should have come on to play alongside John Sutton, not as a replacement for him. Aye, PS really needs to let loose a little bit sometimes. Its the SPL ffs and i`ve never ever understood a Hearts team trying to play a cagey game, worrying about conceding. We are one of the clubs up here who should be leading the way and disposing of teams in a positive manner. The poitn about JS is good. Despite it being given offside, Rudi`s goal came about from a lovely clever flick from JS in a tight situation. This is what we need, players getting in around him inside the box. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Currahee! Posted November 26, 2011 Share Posted November 26, 2011 I think we are gonna give someone a proper hiding soon. Hope it's Pat's Penises from down the road. I think so too. We're playing well enough with no luck in front of goal. Its a confidence thing and an early goal will calm nerves and we'll give somebody a doing. Maybe today but as you say it'd be nice against Hibs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddiepolio Posted November 26, 2011 Share Posted November 26, 2011 What's wrong with one up front? Templeton is better on the left than the right, hence why he plays there. When your full backs are pushing high up the pitch it makes sense for the wingers to cut inside, allowing the full backs to overlap and provide an extra attacking option. It's more of a European formation being used by a European manager, should be no surprise to anyone. I hear what your saying about temps, however this thread is about us being the lowest scorers in the leagues which would suggest my comments are correct? What percentage do you reckon john colquhoun played on the wrong wing? What about Neil mccann? I'm not saying temps isn't contributing enough for himself it's just not enough for the team. Think I would like to see suso on the right and driver on the left for a few games and see what they can CREATE then maybe we won't be the lowest scorers anymore? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Sheldon Cooper Posted November 26, 2011 Share Posted November 26, 2011 I hear what your saying about temps, however this thread is about us being the lowest scorers in the leagues which would suggest my comments are correct? What percentage do you reckon john colquhoun played on the wrong wing? What about Neil mccann? I'm not saying temps isn't contributing enough for himself it's just not enough for the team. Think I would like to see suso on the right and driver on the left for a few games and see what they can CREATE then maybe we won't be the lowest scorers anymore? But Templeton isn't playing on the 'wrong wing' so to speak, its his strongest side (imo). Suso's not fit (going by several posts on here over the last few months), but I'm sure he'd be in the squad if he was. Driver I also agree with but there's something going behind the scenes in his case (again, imo), and he should be in the side every week when fit. I do get what you're trying to say but we need to play to our strengths and Sergio is trying to set us up this way (one up front, pace out wide, well organised back line) so we need to keep persevering with it. Get one goal and there'll be no stopping us, something just needs to click. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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