John Findlay Posted April 9, 2008 Share Posted April 9, 2008 He could die of a drug overdose tomorrow and I personally wouldnt give a Donald Duck. John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I P Knightley Posted April 9, 2008 Share Posted April 9, 2008 Funny thing is I reckon if the red tops were are around back in the day and as savage as they are now there would be a lot of old artists who we would see as just junkies. Pete's lifes been ruined by drugs, probably, but the press has done nothing to help. My view is he shouldnt be locked up, waste of money, he should be made to do endless community service and gve some thing back rather than go in to an organisation that will just mean he doesnt have to leave the building to get drugs. Along the lines of what I was planning to write when sifting through the thread. I'm sure that there's more than a modicum of talent there (I haven't been tempted to listen in detail) but he's been drawn to our attention in the crappy, sensationalist press due to his antics rather than his abilities. A lot of artists in the '60s and '70s got up to a lot worse than Doherty but the press wasn't so desperate in those days. I disagree on the locking up. He's continually flouted the law and it's right that he's banged up. Of course, there are thousands of others in the country who do the same thing but without the attention of press and wannabes with mobile phone cameras so they'll get away with it; but, tough. PD has a high profile life and needs to learn to cope with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nelly Terraces Posted April 9, 2008 Author Share Posted April 9, 2008 The Libertines aren't even the best band to come out of London in the last 20 years. He's a talentless twerp, who rode on Mick Jones' production skills and Peter Perets back catalogue. I hope he gets rogered stupid in the nick. Correct there Sir. I saw the Libertines twice early on as there was a buzz about them in London, and their pathetic desperation to become somehow 'rock'n'roll' and 'dangerous' was actually the most excruitiatingly embarrassing things I've witnessed. Plus, to compare him to The Beatles or Stones in their drug taking habits is a bit like comparing yer Auntie who likes a sherry at Christmas to yer average Buckfast Jakeballwho can't duntion without getting smashed out their skulls and hanging rond town centres. Naturally, due to his overhyped bands tour being sold out is evidence of this public schooll tossbags 'genius' and nothing to the festering cult of personality that pervades British culture these days. Something, from the evidence I witnessed around 5 or 6 years back Doherty would only be too ready to partake in. I've just written his next tune: I Love you Kate Albion - man, it's so great Watcha, cor blimey, I'm a plastic ******-er-nee Awight mate! **** mug of the highest order. Actually, no, leave that mantle for his followers. Cheers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walter Kidd Posted April 9, 2008 Share Posted April 9, 2008 Correct there Sir. I saw the Libertines twice early on as there was a buzz about them in London, and their pathetic desperation to become somehow 'rock'n'roll' and 'dangerous' was actually the most excruitiatingly embarrassing things I've witnessed. Plus, to compare him to The Beatles or Stones in their drug taking habits is a bit like comparing yer Auntie who likes a sherry at Christmas to yer average Buckfast Jakeballwho can't duntion without getting smashed out their skulls and hanging rond town centres. Naturally, due to his overhyped bands tour being sold out is evidence of this public schooll tossbags 'genius' and nothing to the festering cult of personality that pervades British culture these days. Something, from the evidence I witnessed around 5 or 6 years back Doherty would only be too ready to partake in. I've just written his next tune: I Love you Kate Albion - man, it's so great Watcha, cor blimey, I'm a plastic ******-er-nee Awight mate! **** mug of the highest order. Actually, no, leave that mantle for his followers. Cheers. Me as well mate, I got him and his band on the NME Miller tour back in the day. He was smashed out of his face on cheap speed and cider. Carl Barat was actually a lovely fella and apologised about his "mate". 3 Degrees East in Brick Lane bouncers were going to fill him in by the end of the night. Vowed never to get him another gig after that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nelly Terraces Posted April 9, 2008 Author Share Posted April 9, 2008 Media hysteria ruins poor, talented songwriter's life. He'll never get back on the straight and narrow but I really wish the papers would just leave him alone. Apparently that's what everybody wants anyway. I feel for the guy. He doesn't stand a chance. Mate, Doherty was fked up on scag well before the red tops started getting a whiff of him. He only has himself to blame for his problems, well, him and his fawning hangers on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nelly Terraces Posted April 9, 2008 Author Share Posted April 9, 2008 Me as well mate, I got him and his band on the NME Miller tour back in the day. He was smashed out of his face on cheap speed and cider. Carl Barat was actually a lovely fella and apologised about his "mate". 3 Degrees East in Brick Lane bouncers were going to fill him in by the end of the night. Vowed never to get him another gig after that. Thats one of the venues I saw them in. Have never met Barat but my mate Tam Ferguson who writes for Billboard (responsible for me attending the gigs) has and says he's a decent enough guy. Barat - the talented one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K1874M Posted April 9, 2008 Share Posted April 9, 2008 Me as well mate, I got him and his band on the NME Miller tour back in the day. He was smashed out of his face on cheap speed and cider. Carl Barat was actually a lovely fella and apologised about his "mate". 3 Degrees East in Brick Lane bouncers were going to fill him in by the end of the night. Vowed never to get him another gig after that. eeeeeewww I'm guessing cheap speed is even worse than the normal shight! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boris Posted April 9, 2008 Share Posted April 9, 2008 Pete who? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tynie b Posted April 9, 2008 Share Posted April 9, 2008 I'm not saying the wee Junky waste of Skin hasn't got Talent, he's Just, well a wee Junky waste of skin...The picture in the Paper of him Injecting a Girl who was already so out of it she was unconciuos (sp?) and the MTV interview were he sprayed his blood from a syringe onto the interveiwer, well that shows what kind of P**** he is , Hope the Public Shoolboy, wannae be Bad boy enjoys his time in prison, Hope he's made to get the soap on a few occasions...He'll be used to that mind you, with his Public School upbringing!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrambo Posted April 9, 2008 Share Posted April 9, 2008 You didn't say it. However you said that he had performed gigs recently while out of his head by means of quoting others. Not really tricky if you follow the flow of the thread. So I didn't say it? So then I didn't admit he is always off his head? Well thanks, but I think you're confusing yourself, first saying I did then backing me up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doctor jambo Posted April 9, 2008 Share Posted April 9, 2008 Why get so het up over someone who pays for his own drugs? If he can afford them through working (as he seems to be able to do) then where is the harm? Seems to me that what he does with his own money is his business He has no kids so there are no issues there, and his habit costs the tax payer nothing until we bang him up Let him kill himself on drugs if he wants- its up to him fair enough get your knickers in a twist if it was tax payers money being blown on smack, but it aint Same for Winehouse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bistokid Posted April 9, 2008 Share Posted April 9, 2008 Why get so het up over someone who pays for his own drugs?If he can afford them through working (as he seems to be able to do) then where is the harm? Seems to me that what he does with his own money is his business He has no kids so there are no issues there, and his habit costs the tax payer nothing until we bang him up Let him kill himself on drugs if he wants- its up to him fair enough get your knickers in a twist if it was tax payers money being blown on smack, but it aint Same for Winehouse I agree with the crux of what you are saying. Though he does have a child from an ex partner i believe. Alot of red-top/dailymail readers on Kickback i see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spikey Posted April 9, 2008 Share Posted April 9, 2008 Docherty should have been banged up long ago. The man is a disgrace. He's more famous for being a junkie than for any songs he's written. Says it all really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobM Posted April 9, 2008 Share Posted April 9, 2008 I agree with the crux of what you are saying. Though he does have a child from an ex partner i believe.Alot of red-top/dailymail readers on Kickback i see. Don't read red-tops or the Daily Mail but I do find him deeply boring. How could that have happened? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PsychocAndy Posted April 9, 2008 Share Posted April 9, 2008 There's a 71 year old woman in jail for refusing to pay her council tax. 2 or 3 years ago she was jailed for the same thing, some misguided well wisher paid her bill and she was released the next day. Serial offender? Talented oxygen thief caught while on bail for drugs offenses with drugs gets a slap on the legs and told not to do it again, something like 3 times. Thats why people don't like him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S.N.T.H. Posted April 9, 2008 Share Posted April 9, 2008 What a waster, what a ******ing waster You ****ed it all up the wall Round the corner where they chased her There's tears coming out from everywhere The city's hard, the city's fair Get back inside you've got nothing on No you mind yer bleedin own you two bob cant When she wakes up in the morning She writes down all her dreams Reads like the book of revelations Or the Beano or the unabridged Ulysses Oh I really wanna know So tell me, where does all the money go? where does all the money go? Straight, straight up her nose And I never really liked it any way So much preferred it the other way yeah What a divvy what a fu**ing div Talking like a moron, walking like a spiv I was laying in bed paying my rent Knocking on the door for something That she lent her brother Meanwhile from under the covers she says Save me from tomorrow now, save me from tomorrow now, Oh no, Oh no not me And I never really liked it any way So much preferred it the other way yeah Never really liked it any way So much preferred it the other way yeah What a waster, what a ******ing waster You ****ed it all up the wall Round the corner where they chased her There's tears coming out from everywhere The citys hard the citys fair Get back inside you've got nothing on No you mind yer bleedin own you two bob cant . Anyone calling Peter Doherty talentless is, to be quite frank, a ****. NT is now calling him a plastic cockney? WTF Do me a favour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S.N.T.H. Posted April 9, 2008 Share Posted April 9, 2008 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n4SAY2NhE7Y Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tazio Posted April 10, 2008 Share Posted April 10, 2008 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n4SAY2NhE7Y It's like Squeeze out takes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nelly Terraces Posted April 10, 2008 Author Share Posted April 10, 2008 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n4SAY2NhE7Y Bad or what? Embarrassing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chad Sexington Posted April 10, 2008 Share Posted April 10, 2008 Bad or what? Embarrassing. You're not wrong mate. Utter pish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walter Kidd Posted April 10, 2008 Share Posted April 10, 2008 What a waster, what a ******ing wasterYou ****ed it all up the wall Round the corner where they chased her There's tears coming out from everywhere The city's hard, the city's fair Get back inside you've got nothing on No you mind yer bleedin own you two bob cant When she wakes up in the morning She writes down all her dreams Reads like the book of revelations Or the Beano or the unabridged Ulysses Oh I really wanna know So tell me, where does all the money go? where does all the money go? Straight, straight up her nose And I never really liked it any way So much preferred it the other way yeah What a divvy what a fu**ing div Talking like a moron, walking like a spiv I was laying in bed paying my rent Knocking on the door for something That she lent her brother Meanwhile from under the covers she says Save me from tomorrow now, save me from tomorrow now, Oh no, Oh no not me And I never really liked it any way So much preferred it the other way yeah Never really liked it any way So much preferred it the other way yeah What a waster, what a ******ing waster You ****ed it all up the wall Round the corner where they chased her There's tears coming out from everywhere The citys hard the citys fair Get back inside you've got nothing on No you mind yer bleedin own you two bob cant . Anyone calling Peter Doherty talentless is, to be quite frank, a ****. NT is now calling him a plastic cockney? WTF Do me a favour. It's hardly Jarvis Cocker or Ray Davies is it?? Waste of oxygen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benny Posted April 10, 2008 Share Posted April 10, 2008 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n4SAY2NhE7Y Rule 1. Back up your arguement with something good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S.N.T.H. Posted April 11, 2008 Share Posted April 11, 2008 Some are hard to please, 'Likely Lads' is a definate Tune. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobM Posted April 12, 2008 Share Posted April 12, 2008 Some are hard to please, 'Likely Lads' is a definate Tune. It's blasphemy to use the Likely Lads in such a manner. Bob and Terry must be spinning in their graves. If they're deid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr X Posted April 12, 2008 Share Posted April 12, 2008 He has a way with a lyric, but that makes him a decent lyricist, not a good songwriter. Big difference. His singing is appalling and his attempt to play a song on acoustic guitar on Jonathan Ross' TV show was fist-chewingly embarrassing. Pure gold as a tabloid bad boy but an utter nobody musically. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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