Kennedy Bakircioglu Posted November 10, 2011 Share Posted November 10, 2011 Is there anyone on JKB who would recommend this as a career? I work in finance and am thinking of getting out before my mid life crisis. How many years would I be looking at before earning above minimum wage? Would prefer to stay in Edinburgh, but not overly fixed to one location. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 10, 2011 Share Posted November 10, 2011 Is there anyone on JKB who would recommend this as a career? I work in finance and am thinking of getting out before my mid life crisis. How many years would I be looking at before earning above minimum wage? Would prefer to stay in Edinburgh, but not overly fixed to one location. I think loads of guys would like swinging their choppers and getting paid for the privilege Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kennedy Bakircioglu Posted November 10, 2011 Author Share Posted November 10, 2011 I think loads of guys would like swinging their choppers and getting paid for the privilege Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 10, 2011 Share Posted November 10, 2011 Oh your actually being serious?why on earth would you want to go up trees to get out of a mid-life crisis,buy a sports car or waist it on wine,women and song but hey if climbing trees rocks your boat then go for it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamb0_1874 Posted November 10, 2011 Share Posted November 10, 2011 I have no knowledge or experience in that industry but am not sure ive ever seen a tree surgeons transit that wasn't pulling a caravan. Take from that what you will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kennedy Bakircioglu Posted November 10, 2011 Author Share Posted November 10, 2011 Oh your actually being serious?why on earth would you want to go up trees to get out of a mid-life crisis,buy a sports car or waist it on wine,women and song but hey if climbing trees rocks your boat then go for it Being in an office from before day light to leaving well after daylight, is beginning to rapidly reduce my happiness in life. I can't see myself doing it til my 70th birthday, so just looking at other options. To be fair, I guess any tree surgeon worth their salt will be outside, grafting away; whilst everyone on here is skiving, doing the complete opposite! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mutley Posted November 10, 2011 Share Posted November 10, 2011 Can you see yourself climbing trees until your 70? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 10, 2011 Share Posted November 10, 2011 Being in an office from before day light to leaving well after daylight, is beginning to rapidly reduce my happiness in life. I can't see myself doing it til my 70th birthday, so just looking at other options. To be fair, I guess any tree surgeon worth their salt will be outside, grafting away; whilst everyone on here is skiving, doing the complete opposite! And if you don't mind me asking what does your wife or girlfriend think about it?,or is it the lack of either that is putting the urge to chop down trees in your head or to release your obvious tension your feeling in your time of crisis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gasman Posted November 10, 2011 Share Posted November 10, 2011 Can you see yourself setting up your gear and working outside when it's cold, dark, wet, and windy? Have you tried doing some kind of hard manual work outside, in the depth of a Scottish winter, to see if you could cope? Might be worth contacting Pentland Rangers, Friends of Corstorphine Hill, Scottish National Heritage, or some such group. See if you can get some experience doing this type of heavy work, in the rubbish weather, on a voluntary basis first. It may be that the grass (or hedge!) is not always greener on the other side (of the double glazed office window) and you may want to look at alternatives. Good luck with whatever you decide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kennedy Bakircioglu Posted November 10, 2011 Author Share Posted November 10, 2011 Can you see yourself setting up your gear and working outside when it's cold, dark, wet, and windy? Have you tried doing some kind of hard manual work outside, in the depth of a Scottish winter, to see if you could cope? Might be worth contacting Pentland Rangers, Friends of Corstorphine Hill, Scottish National Heritage, or some such group. See if you can get some experience doing this type of heavy work, in the rubbish weather, on a voluntary basis first. It may be that the grass (or hedge!) is not always greener on the other side (of the double glazed office window) and you may want to look at alternatives. Good luck with whatever you decide. I worked on the building of the medical centre at Cameron Toll for a full winter. I tended to find it probably on a par with motivation for getting up and heading into the office. A winter like last year may be a different matter however! I have spend summers in the past working for landscaping companies so I'm not new to manual labour. I fully appreciate the greener grass argument. I'm more considering my options, rather than jumping into anything immediately. Thanks for the decent reply though! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auld Reekin' Posted November 10, 2011 Share Posted November 10, 2011 What you could do as a starting point is to do a course to enable you to get your chainsaw certificate: various colleges (including Oatridge near Broxburn, I think) and other organisations run these. You would definitely need this to do that type of work anyway, it'd be some sort of introduction into what would be involved, and would give you the chance to speak to tutors and fellow-students about that line of work. The Forestry Commission themselves might run this type of course, so it'd be worth looking at their website and seeing what courses and information they have available. Additionally, you could look on the web and/or Yellow Pages for tree-surgeons in the Edinburgh area and contact one or more of these for a chat and to get a better idea of how much of that type of work there is around. Who knows - you might even get a job out of it! Having also had more than my fill of corporate life, open-plan offices (and the thronging multitude of erseholes who frequently inhabit them), office-politics, and working for borderline-sociopathic incompetents, I have every sympathy for your desire for a total career-change and would encourage you to pursue actively alternative options! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 10, 2011 Share Posted November 10, 2011 I worked on the building of the medical centre at Cameron Toll for a full winter. I tended to find it probably on a par with motivation for getting up and heading into the office. A winter like last year may be a different matter however! I have spend summers in the past working for landscaping companies so I'm not new to manual labour. I fully appreciate the greener grass argument. I'm more considering my options, rather than jumping into anything immediately. Thanks for the decent reply though! What about taking a sabbatical and if you don't feel like it was the right move after all then you've got the option to go back to your office job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrambo Posted November 10, 2011 Share Posted November 10, 2011 It's hard work, but if you get it right can be very rewarding. Although the tree surgeon I know would probably say to stay away from training now as the market is becoming very populated as loads of people think they can just train up and make a mint. Have to spend a year in London too for the qualification, although if you can get work as a tree surgeon while your there you'll make loads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kennedy Bakircioglu Posted November 10, 2011 Author Share Posted November 10, 2011 What you could do as a starting point is to do a course to enable you to get your chainsaw certificate: various colleges (including Oatridge near Broxburn, I think) and other organisations run these. You would definitely need this to do that type of work anyway, it'd be some sort of introduction into what would be involved, and would give you the chance to speak to tutors and fellow-students about that line of work. The Forestry Commission themselves might run this type of course, so it'd be worth looking at their website and seeing what courses and information they have available. Additionally, you could look on the web and/or Yellow Pages for tree-surgeons in the Edinburgh area and contact one or more of these for a chat and to get a better idea of how much of that type of work there is around. Who knows - you might even get a job out of it! Having also had more than my fill of corporate life, open-plan offices (and the thronging multitude of erseholes who frequently inhabit them), office-politics, and working for borderline-sociopathic incompetents, I have every sympathy for your desire for a total career-change and would encourage you to pursue actively alternative options! I've spent the morning constructing a list of courses I would need to complete. I have the basic chainsaw license, but of course there are a large number of other courses I'd need, combined with a hell of a lot practical experience. I had a good chat with the owner of one of the big companies also this morning. Very informative and he spoke positively for the future of the industry. The third paragraph is a beautiful summmary of why I am considering alternative options. Obviously this might not be a long term option, but I'm hopefuly change will spark some new energy into life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homme Posted November 10, 2011 Share Posted November 10, 2011 I'm afraid i can be of no help regarding the thread topic but i love the OP's username! What a player the wee guy was on Champ Man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auld Reekin' Posted November 10, 2011 Share Posted November 10, 2011 I've spent the morning constructing a list of courses I would need to complete. I have the basic chainsaw license, but of course there are a large number of other courses I'd need, combined with a hell of a lot practical experience. I had a good chat with the owner of one of the big companies also this morning. Very informative and he spoke positively for the future of the industry. The third paragraph is a beautiful summmary of why I am considering alternative options. Obviously this might not be a long term option, but I'm hopefuly change will spark some new energy into life. It sounds like you're not going into it with your eyes closed then, and are taking the right steps in preparation for this. I'm looking actively for alternative paths and projects myself so would be interested to hear how you get on. Good luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Comedian Posted November 10, 2011 Share Posted November 10, 2011 Setup on your own, most have a chunky offroader with all the kit in the back. Also pest control would be a good addition skills wise so you can get more work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Winstone Posted November 10, 2011 Share Posted November 10, 2011 What about doing your offshore training seeing as you are familiar with Aberdeen? Always an option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southside1874 Posted November 10, 2011 Share Posted November 10, 2011 Is there anyone on JKB who would recommend this as a career? I work in finance and am thinking of getting out before my mid life crisis. How many years would I be looking at before earning above minimum wage? Would prefer to stay in Edinburgh, but not overly fixed to one location. Don't do it. I have a few mates that do it and its a young mans game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kennedy Bakircioglu Posted November 10, 2011 Author Share Posted November 10, 2011 Don't do it. I have a few mates that do it and its a young mans game. I am younger than 30 (young man IMO! ) Have considered off-shore work as well. It would be a good laugh but being my own boss / working towards that is a massive aim career wise! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southside1874 Posted November 10, 2011 Share Posted November 10, 2011 I am younger than 30 (young man IMO! ) Have considered off-shore work as well. It would be a good laugh but being my own boss / working towards that is a massive aim career wise! I suppose it depends on what you know about trees already, but there is nothing wrong with getting work experience initially to see if you like it. Its the offshoots from the work like selling the logs in the winter and making garden furniture in the summer as well as knowing how to treat disease and when to prune different trees and bushes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidkeye Posted November 10, 2011 Share Posted November 10, 2011 It would probably be a decent option if you're interested in doing that kind of work, i certainly wouldn't fancy it in the winter though! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jkbam Posted November 11, 2011 Share Posted November 11, 2011 Sorry to take this on a tangent, does anyone know a decent Tree Surgeon in West Lothian? I've had a couple round in the last few years, one was extortionate and the other was cheap but my trees are now rather odd shaped. Looking for something in the middle I guess! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mundojambo Posted November 11, 2011 Share Posted November 11, 2011 Sorry to take this on a tangent, does anyone know a decent Tree Surgeon in West Lothian? I've had a couple round in the last few years, one was extortionate and the other was cheap but my trees are now rather odd shaped. Looking for something in the middle I guess! i don't know who it was but we had tree surgeons out at kirknewton earlier this year and they were very good, i could find out who they were from my boss and to the OP: go for it, it's hard, hard work, but it can be very rewarding, both mentally and financially. i'd reccommend working for someone to get experience and knowlege, or even just get your chainsaw ticket (?500 odd, and you can do it at Oatridge) and do it small-scale whilst landscaping, then move on up to big-ass trees if you feel like it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe.gausden Posted November 11, 2011 Share Posted November 11, 2011 Sorry to take this on a tangent, does anyone know a decent Tree Surgeon in West Lothian? I've had a couple round in the last few years, one was extortionate and the other was cheap but my trees are now rather odd shaped. Looking for something in the middle I guess! Why not ask the OP to do it............be good experience for him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Locky Posted November 11, 2011 Share Posted November 11, 2011 Edinburgh Council are starting apprenticeships and looking for arborists, gonna be posted up sometime before new year, not sure when though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cosanostra Posted November 12, 2011 Share Posted November 12, 2011 I get tree surgeons all the time in my a+e. Falls from height mostly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auld Reekin' Posted November 12, 2011 Share Posted November 12, 2011 I get tree surgeons all the time in my a+e. Falls from height mostly. With the odd d.i.y., chainsaw-assisted, venesection and amputation, no doubt...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floyd Posted November 12, 2011 Share Posted November 12, 2011 With the odd d.i.y., chainsaw-assisted, venesection and amputation, no doubt...? Or is it tree stumps & branches up the rectum? Honest, I was gardening naked and just fell over onto it........... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 12, 2011 Share Posted November 12, 2011 i don't know who it was but we had tree surgeons out at kirknewton earlier this year and they were very good, i could find out who they were from my boss and to the OP: go for it, it's hard, hard work, but it can be very rewarding, both mentally and financially. i'd reccommend working for someone to get experience and knowlege, or even just get your chainsaw ticket (?500 odd, and you can do it at Oatridge) and do it small-scale whilst landscaping, then move on up to big-ass trees if you feel like it So you've had two already and now want a third. That will be tree fellers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin_T Posted November 12, 2011 Share Posted November 12, 2011 I'm afraid i can be of no help regarding the thread topic but i love the OP's username! What a player the wee guy was on Champ Man http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kennedy_Bakirciogl%C3%BC He has had a decent career in real life, although not quite to the stellar heights of his Champ Man incarnation... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Locky Posted November 12, 2011 Share Posted November 12, 2011 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kennedy_Bakirciogl%C3%BC He has had a decent career in real life, although not quite to the stellar heights of his Champ Man incarnation... I bloody love Scandinavian players in FM and CM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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