colinzeal Posted November 4, 2011 Share Posted November 4, 2011 Good news and interesting that bonuses have been paid too. And cutting the wage bill, no problem with that, we have too many average players who don't earn their money. Lets get rid and give the likes of Mcgowan the chance they deserve! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Francis Albert Posted November 4, 2011 Share Posted November 4, 2011 for saying the wages were 19 days late? they were 19 days late..... Do you think the players will just forget all about it? How about for saying Hearts were facing a winding up petition for a bill paid nearly 3 months ago? Or for saying there was a fire sale where high earners had been told to find another club? Even when the Beeb caught onto the fact the tax bill had been paid they said it was paid 2 weeks ago. Where did that come from, or was it just made up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Francis Albert Posted November 4, 2011 Share Posted November 4, 2011 All the drama could have been avoided by paying the bloody wages on time! lets see what happens in 2 weeks time when they are due again team morale will be through the floor after this shambles so lets hope they can put it behind them for Saturday No evidence it was below the floor before they were paid. There is a job on the Sun for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coatbridgejambo Posted November 4, 2011 Share Posted November 4, 2011 LOLmore to follow....when we are able to make up more nonsense headlines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The White Cockade Posted November 4, 2011 Share Posted November 4, 2011 No evidence it was below the floor before they were paid. There is a job on the Sun for you. are you an ostrich? Seems to be a whole flock of them on Kickback Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Francis Albert Posted November 4, 2011 Share Posted November 4, 2011 are you an ostrich? Seems to be a whole flock of them on Kickback What? There have been a whole flock of players on Kickback? Name them. (Or at least their user names). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAYEL Posted November 4, 2011 Share Posted November 4, 2011 are you an ostrich? Seems to be a whole flock of them on Kickback Give us some facts to work on . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pants Shaton Posted November 4, 2011 Share Posted November 4, 2011 I predict plain sailing all the way from this moment on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremy Goss Posted November 4, 2011 Share Posted November 4, 2011 Phew for now. Don't think this problem is going to go away though we are struggling to keep our necks heads above the water! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Francis Albert Posted November 4, 2011 Share Posted November 4, 2011 Phew for now. Don't think this problem is going to go away though we are struggling to keep our necks heads above the water! Nope, as long as we need about ?0.5m a month cash injection from Vlad, the problem is likely to recur. Hopefully, beneath the media hysteria and misreporting there is some kernel of truth about our living within our means in futeure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winston churchill Posted November 4, 2011 Share Posted November 4, 2011 Spewing likes http://www.hibs.net/showthread.php?220490-Hearts-Wages-Have-Now-Been-Paid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foghorn5 Posted November 4, 2011 Share Posted November 4, 2011 exactly how much did they fine Blackie for talking to the DR? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colinzeal Posted November 4, 2011 Share Posted November 4, 2011 Spewing likes http://www.hibs.net/showthread.php?220490-Hearts-Wages-Have-Now-Been-Paid The fact that we managed to pay the players two weeks late is hardly something we can feel like something to gloat to the Hibees about! Its embarrassing to be honest and I certainly won't be checking what they are saying at the moment. I just hope this doesn't happen again next month! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DalryJambo Posted November 4, 2011 Share Posted November 4, 2011 Never will a group of highly paid individuals be so elated about receiving....what they're due!!!! This could relate to a motivational course Romanov went on a few months ago entitled...'Treat'em Mean, Keep'em keen' Or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colinzeal Posted November 4, 2011 Share Posted November 4, 2011 exactly how much did they fine Blackie for talking to the DR? I really hope it was him and Vlad forces him out! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
:shitwine: Posted November 4, 2011 Share Posted November 4, 2011 Spewing likes http://www.hibs.net/showthread.php?220490-Hearts-Wages-Have-Now-Been-Paid They'll be crying into their giro tonight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enzo Chiefo Posted November 4, 2011 Share Posted November 4, 2011 The fact that we managed to pay the players two weeks late is hardly something we can feel like something to gloat to the Hibees about! Its embarrassing to be honest and I certainly won't be checking what they are saying at the moment. I just hope this doesn't happen again next month! I can't believe the celebrations that seem to be going on here. It has been yet another highly embarassing fortnight for the club. There should be a bit more humility. Anyone who isn't extremely concerned about the future of the club must be seriously deluded. Tomorrow's game is meaningless in the scheme of things - the best bit of news this week was Iain Mercer's revelation in The Daily Mail that there are Edinburgh businessmen who have an interest, individually or as part of a consortium, in taking over the debt. All we need now is for Romanov to accept a ?1 reward for taking us to the brink and he can scuttle back to his submarine. I find it incredible that everyone from Fraser Wishart to the BBC and The Scotsman are receiving criticism but the person that is SOLELY responsible for our problems is back in the good books. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmfc fan Posted November 4, 2011 Share Posted November 4, 2011 Fun while at lasted aye Hibs even if we did go bust your still Edinburghs 2nd team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ossory_Jambo Posted November 4, 2011 Share Posted November 4, 2011 I can't believe the celebrations that seem to be going on here. It has been yet another highly embarassing fortnight for the club. There should be a bit more humility. Anyone who isn't extremely concerned about the future of the club must be seriously deluded. Tomorrow's game is meaningless in the scheme of things - the best bit of news this week was Iain Mercer's revelation in The Daily Mail that there are Edinburgh businessmen who have an interest, individually or as part of a consortium, in taking over the debt. All we need now is for Romanov to accept a ?1 reward for taking us to the brink and he can scuttle back to his submarine. I find it incredible that everyone from Fraser Wishart to the BBC and The Scotsman are receiving criticism but the person that is SOLELY responsible for our problems is back in the good books. Oh really..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbo-Jambo Posted November 4, 2011 Share Posted November 4, 2011 The fact that we managed to pay the players two weeks late is hardly something we can feel like something to gloat to the Hibees about! Its embarrassing to be honest and I certainly won't be checking what they are saying at the moment. I just hope this doesn't happen again next month! You mean this month!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rabbie_Burns Posted November 4, 2011 Share Posted November 4, 2011 I can't believe the celebrations that seem to be going on here. It has been yet another highly embarassing fortnight for the club. There should be a bit more humility. Anyone who isn't extremely concerned about the future of the club must be seriously deluded. Tomorrow's game is meaningless in the scheme of things - the best bit of news this week was Iain Mercer's revelation in The Daily Mail that there are Edinburgh businessmen who have an interest, individually or as part of a consortium, in taking over the debt. All we need now is for Romanov to accept a ?1 reward for taking us to the brink and he can scuttle back to his submarine. I find it incredible that everyone from Fraser Wishart to the BBC and The Scotsman are receiving criticism but the person that is SOLELY responsible for our problems is back in the good books. Never mind Chiefo, only a couple of weeks until the next potential payday dramas and you can start rubbing your hands with glee again... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
portobellojambo1 Posted November 4, 2011 Share Posted November 4, 2011 All the drama could have been avoided by paying the bloody wages on time! lets see what happens in 2 weeks time when they are due again team morale will be through the floor after this shambles so lets hope they can put it behind them for Saturday I don't think you've quite grasped the concept of modern football. There is no such thing as playing for the jersey, or loyalty to clubs these days, it's all about money. Yes, the players have been paid late, and it is nothing to be proud of. It is a simple operation to ensure funds are in place to process your monthly payroll run, but it didn't happen on this occasion. The players today received their monthly salary, plus an addiitonal payment to cover the inconvenience caused, they also received their bonuses. Chances are that the players will be higher than a kite tomorrow rather than in low morale. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paolo Posted November 4, 2011 Share Posted November 4, 2011 I think Wishart gets criticism because he goes public with negative situations involving Hearts. Remember, Hearts stuck by CT. This gave us negative criticism too. Some of it was deserved, some was hysterical, but where was Fraser Wishart then? At no point did he come out and back Hearts for helping a player he is suppose to represent or to distance himself from the player, but as soon as there is a negative incident for someone he represents, he is quoted in every newspaper. That is why he gets stick, Enzo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Palmer Posted November 4, 2011 Share Posted November 4, 2011 Wondered where Enzo had been.... This place has felt empty without him this last week. Hope you enjoy the match tomorrow Enzo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moriarty Posted November 4, 2011 Share Posted November 4, 2011 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enzo Chiefo Posted November 4, 2011 Share Posted November 4, 2011 Never mind Chiefo, only a couple of weeks until the next potential payday dramas and you can start rubbing your hands with glee again... Myself, along with other posters on here, and the BBC, Scotsman etc, are merely reporting the facts. The players were paid 19 days late and that is totally unacceptable. The fact that the club conveniently imposed a media ban did not help. The fact that we have a board that never meets apart from family celebrations back in Russia, or their adopted country of Lithuania, means that the players have no means of getting information. I rely on the press for information as the website is a Pravda-style propaganda machine. The important thing here is that this was not a payroll glitch as some would like to believe - it is a question of funding and, although I genuinely hope I am wrong, it will happen again in a fortnight. With regard to perceived anti-Hearts bias, the BBC have also angered Rangers, so are they biased against both clubs for reporting facts about the respective owners??? The SFA let Sergio off with a mere caution - are they still anti-Hearts ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paolo Posted November 4, 2011 Share Posted November 4, 2011 What about Wishart's selective interest, Enzo? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fermit the Krog Posted November 4, 2011 Share Posted November 4, 2011 Myself, along with other posters on here, and the BBC, Scotsman etc, are merely reporting the facts. The players were paid 19 days late and that is totally unacceptable. The fact that the club conveniently imposed a media ban did not help. The fact that we have a board that never meets apart from family celebrations back in Russia, or their adopted country of Lithuania, means that the players have no means of getting information. I rely on the press for information as the website is a Pravda-style propaganda machine. The important thing here is that this was not a payroll glitch as some would like to believe - it is a question of funding and, although I genuinely hope I am wrong, it will happen again in a fortnight. With regard to perceived anti-Hearts bias, the BBC have also angered Rangers, so are they biased against both clubs for reporting facts about the respective owners??? The SFA let Sergio off with a mere caution - are they still anti-Hearts ???? The Sun? Do they deal in facts also? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott_jambo Posted November 4, 2011 Share Posted November 4, 2011 Funny Hibs fan. "Those tears will turn to laughter when they fail to pay the wages which IIRC are due a week on Wednesday. If it means that Craig Thomson can't afford to pay for his internet then I salute Vlad." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulie Walnut Posted November 4, 2011 Share Posted November 4, 2011 Myself, along with other posters on here, and the BBC, Scotsman etc, are merely reporting the facts. The players were paid 19 days late and that is totally unacceptable. The fact that the club conveniently imposed a media ban did not help. The fact that we have a board that never meets apart from family celebrations back in Russia, or their adopted country of Lithuania, means that the players have no means of getting information. I rely on the press for information as the website is a Pravda-style propaganda machine. The important thing here is that this was not a payroll glitch as some would like to believe - it is a question of funding and, although I genuinely hope I am wrong, it will happen again in a fortnight. With regard to perceived anti-Hearts bias, the BBC have also angered Rangers, so are they biased against both clubs for reporting facts about the respective owners??? The SFA let Sergio off with a mere caution - are they still anti-Hearts ???? Bore off Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Wiseau Posted November 4, 2011 Share Posted November 4, 2011 Looks like the professionalism and patience of the players has been rewarded. :greggy: And to think that they were getting pelters on here for not being likeable enough. :down: Someone else has come through for us as well though. As a great man once said... MR ROMANOV ALWAYS PAYS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAYEL Posted November 4, 2011 Share Posted November 4, 2011 Myself, along with other posters on here, and the BBC, Scotsman etc, are merely reporting the facts. The players were paid 19 days late and that is totally unacceptable. The fact that the club conveniently imposed a media ban did not help. The fact that we have a board that never meets apart from family celebrations back in Russia, or their adopted country of Lithuania, means that the players have no means of getting information. I rely on the press for information as the website is a Pravda-style propaganda machine. The important thing here is that this was not a payroll glitch as some would like to believe - it is a question of funding and, although I genuinely hope I am wrong, it will happen again in a fortnight. With regard to perceived anti-Hearts bias, the BBC have also angered Rangers, so are they biased against both clubs for reporting facts about the respective owners??? The SFA let Sergio off with a mere caution - are they still anti-Hearts ???? Were Hearts in court this week to be wound up ?? Facts my erse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paolo Posted November 4, 2011 Share Posted November 4, 2011 The Sun? Do they deal in facts also? On occasions they do, but they have to break the law to get them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaps Posted November 4, 2011 Share Posted November 4, 2011 Glad its finally be sorted. Should be intresting in a couple of weeks to see if the get paid on time. No doubt the sun will try and put a negitive spin on the players being paid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paolo Posted November 4, 2011 Share Posted November 4, 2011 Were Hearts in court this week to be wound up ?? Facts my erse. You are right. The bill was paid in August and every media outlet knew this and knew the hearing was to delete the petition. They either ignored this or just casually mentioned it., insinuating it was paid at the last minute. It did not stop them using a headline that told a completely different story though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambos1983 Posted November 4, 2011 Share Posted November 4, 2011 Robert Martin of the sun, GIRFUY! Write about that tomorrow you ****! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
portobellojambo1 Posted November 4, 2011 Share Posted November 4, 2011 Myself, along with other posters on here, and the BBC, Scotsman etc, are merely reporting the facts. The players were paid 19 days late and that is totally unacceptable. The fact that the club conveniently imposed a media ban did not help. The fact that we have a board that never meets apart from family celebrations back in Russia, or their adopted country of Lithuania, means that the players have no means of getting information. I rely on the press for information as the website is a Pravda-style propaganda machine. The important thing here is that this was not a payroll glitch as some would like to believe - it is a question of funding and, although I genuinely hope I am wrong, it will happen again in a fortnight. With regard to perceived anti-Hearts bias, the BBC have also angered Rangers, so are they biased against both clubs for reporting facts about the respective owners??? The SFA let Sergio off with a mere caution - are they still anti-Hearts ???? Over the course of the last week the only facts that the BBC/Scotsman etc have got right was that the players were awaiting their salaries Neil, and that was already known information. They then tried to invent information through a total lack of investigation. the basis of their stories were that the club were to be wound up yesterday (fecking garbage) and when the truth came out about that they then moved on to making ludicrous statement about the high earners having been told they could all feck off in January because HMFC wouldn't be paying them (again feckin garbage). If they had stuck to the facts, and there was only one fact, the playing staff at HMFC failed to receive their salaries on time, it would have been played out after one day, all well and good, I have no problem with newspapers/broadcasters presenting facts, in fact that is what I expect them to do. Instead they produced total lies, and incidents they had failed to investigate properly to try and keep people interested (presumably). That is unacceptable, and no one should back the media's stance when this happens. I have been critical of Romanov in the past, very critical, I have also commented on people's reactions to some things which appear in the press (and are true) that people get agitated by. But on this occasion I think the press have been rightly castigated for stepping way over the mark. The late payment of wages is nothing to be proud of, however the sticking point seems to be the lack of communication with the players, and I think we all accept this is something that could be done better. But I hope you will accept, given we both worked for the same companies for a long time, there is information that companies release and there is information which you never hear about. Different people will read different things into communication breakdowns but they are a fact of life, in all businesses. I would even question whether or not HMFC fans/the media actually have a right to know such information, do the media demand such information from all companies who do something wrong, do they even bother reporting the original mistake(s). As for your closing point re. Paulo Sergio. I know you are intelligent so would hope you would be able to play the situation through in your head and see what conclusion you come to. The outcome of a hearing at which Paulo Sergio was expected to get a multi match ban resulted in him only being censured. As an intelligent person I wouldn't think it would take you long to work out why. His ban will come, make no mistake about that, he will get the kitchen sink thrown at him at his next appearance on 17 November. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Getintaethem Posted November 4, 2011 Share Posted November 4, 2011 The SFA let Sergio off with a mere caution - are they still anti-Hearts ???? A mere caution was about as much as I would expect for mere honesty. Sergio will get a ban for the Kilmarnock game though. To be honest I don't even know why you brought the SFA into it. The posters of this thread were having a go at Hibs fans (plus some of our own fans) and elements of the media who have blown this situation out of all proportion yet again. The players being paid late is a far from ideal situation, but the talk of "fire sales" and players ripping up contracts was way over the top. We rely on funding from UBIG to make ends meet, the club could not afford to pay the wages they do without this funding. Sometimes we have to wait for this funding to pay our way, its not an ideal situation but its not the armeggedon senario that certain journalists would have you believe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Palmer Posted November 4, 2011 Share Posted November 4, 2011 Looks like the professionalism and patience of the players has been rewarded. :greggy: And to think that they were getting pelters on here for not being likeable enough. :down: Someone else has come through for us as well though. As a great man once said... MR ROMANOV ALWAYS PAYS Indeed he does Francis... Once again calm heads prevail...what was it Kipling wrote about? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enzo Chiefo Posted November 4, 2011 Share Posted November 4, 2011 The Sun? Do they deal in facts also? (quote] In the main, I believe they do. The people that object to them tend to be people who don't like hearing the truth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Wiseau Posted November 4, 2011 Share Posted November 4, 2011 Over the course of the last week the only facts that the BBC/Scotsman etc have got right was that the players were awaiting their salaries Neil, and that was already known information. They then tried to invent information through a total lack of investigation. the basis of their stories were that the club were to be wound up yesterday (fecking garbage) and when the truth came out about that they then moved on to making ludicrous statement about the high earners having been told they could all feck off in January because HMFC wouldn't be paying them (again feckin garbage). If they had stuck to the facts, and there was only one fact, the playing staff at HMFC failed to receive their salaries on time, it would have been played out after one day, all well and good, I have no problem with newspapers/broadcasters presenting facts, in fact that is what I expect them to do. Instead they produced total lies, and incidents they had failed to investigate properly to try and keep people interested (presumably). That is unacceptable, and no one should back the media's stance when this happens. I have been critical of Romanov in the past, very critical, I have also commented on people's reactions to some things which appear in the press (and are true) that people get agitated by. But on this occasion I think the press have been rightly castigated for stepping way over the mark. The late payment of wages is nothing to be proud of, however the sticking point seems to be the lack of communication with the players, and I think we all accept this is something that could be done better. But I hope you will accept, given we both worked for the same companies for a long time, there is information that companies release and there is information which you never hear about. Different people will read different things into communication breakdowns but they are a fact of life, in all businesses. I would even question whether or not HMFC fans/the media actually have a right to know such information, do the media demand such information from all companies who do something wrong, do they even bother reporting the original mistake(s). As for your closing point re. Paulo Sergio. I know you are intelligent so would hope you would be able to play the situation through in your head and see what conclusion you come to. The outcome of a hearing at which Paulo Sergio was expected to get a multi match ban resulted in him only being censured. As an intelligent person I wouldn't think it would take you long to work out why. His ban will come, make no mistake about that, he will get the kitchen sink thrown at him at his next appearance on 17 November. One of a good few superb posts over the last few days PJ1. It's just a shame this one was wasted on a disingenuous goon who won't take in a word of what you say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Palmer Posted November 4, 2011 Share Posted November 4, 2011 In the main, I believe they do. The people that object to them tend to be people who don't like hearing the truth. Deary me.... I see you've buggered off... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fermit the Krog Posted November 4, 2011 Share Posted November 4, 2011 In the main, I believe they do. I'll end all communication with you there. Goodnight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Wiseau Posted November 4, 2011 Share Posted November 4, 2011 Indeed he does Francis... Once again calm heads prevail...what was it Kipling wrote about? I believe he wrote about Fondant Fancies and how the pink ones were the best. He did make exceedingly good cakes. But that's not relevant just now. I believe it was another top boey, and an eloquent, handsome SOB who wrote: GOD BLESS MR ROMANOV. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamboelite Posted November 4, 2011 Share Posted November 4, 2011 I know people are seeing this with a massive relief and thinking everything is back being rosey in the garden of Vlad but it really isnt. At the end of the day guys its great they have been paid but it highlights a very serious issue with our club, our debt and our inability to communicate from the powers above to the players and it needs addressed. Where we go from here I dont know, I suspect the life support machine has been turned back on however we are about to have a major cull on our staff and payroll (by staff i mean players) in the near future to improve our turnover to expense ratio. I'm all for that by the way but I hope other Hearts fans realise that the next few years may not be that great if we do something we should have done years ago and cut our wage bill. I think we could reduce it to a better ratio (50% of turnover) and eventually get ourselves back to being 3rd but it will take time and we need to move away from 05/06 and realise that we will never see that kind of spending again and get ourselves prepared for what lies ahead. I just think we as fans when it comes to expectation are worse than any other fans outwith the OF. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paolo Posted November 4, 2011 Share Posted November 4, 2011 One of a good few superb posts over the last few days PJ1. It's just a shame this one was wasted on a disingenuous goon who won't take in a word of what you say. You are right. His posts stand out. I do not agree with them all but they are honest. Some are negative toward Hearts, some are positive. I do believe he is as honest as he can be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malinga the Swinga Posted November 4, 2011 Share Posted November 4, 2011 Is anyone aware of what the delay was? If we managed to pay bonuses as well, are we hopeful that next months wages will be made on time? I would rather we had held on to bonus money and paid wages, but perhaps sufficient funds are now there to make sure this doesn't happen again, or at least no this year. Some guys like Portobello Jambo seem to he able to find things out quicker than the press, so if he were to express some confidence, I might be able to sleep a bit easier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bighusref Posted November 4, 2011 Share Posted November 4, 2011 never in any doubt Interesting. Is that what the players were saying? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skene11 Posted November 4, 2011 Share Posted November 4, 2011 Romanov had the media on a string. He's such a rascal. :greggy: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Munch Posted November 4, 2011 Share Posted November 4, 2011 Hibs fans scramble to their nearest chemist. **** ye's. From the heights of the best methadone extacy thinking we were gone to the depths of despair and the thought of the next Derby defeat for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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