:shitwine: Posted November 3, 2011 Share Posted November 3, 2011 John Robertson was on BBC saying that he has confidence that we can move past this 'crisis'. Let's all have Robbo's attitude Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Remnants of Standards Posted November 3, 2011 Share Posted November 3, 2011 Oh well, that's all right then. Panic over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rab obanheartsno1 Posted November 3, 2011 Share Posted November 3, 2011 seen that its good to see the wee man is up beat,we need to all be like that and saturday is a must for a big support to show how much this club means to us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubyruby Posted November 3, 2011 Share Posted November 3, 2011 John Robertson was on BBC saying that he has confidence that we can move past this 'crisis'. Let's all have Robbo's attitude Agreed,im going to wear my robbo t-shirt on saturday in his honour Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo Hoggie Posted November 3, 2011 Share Posted November 3, 2011 I f****n love Robbo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregory House M.D. Posted November 3, 2011 Share Posted November 3, 2011 Oh well, that's all right then. Panic over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingantti1874 Posted November 3, 2011 Share Posted November 3, 2011 The wee man should never have been fired by the club... I'd take him back as managers tomorrow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregory House M.D. Posted November 3, 2011 Share Posted November 3, 2011 The wee man should never have been fired by the club... I'd take him back as managers tomorrow Taking liberties with the Fat Striker gag now eh..? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2NaFish Posted November 3, 2011 Share Posted November 3, 2011 he's just worried that if we lose half our first team then so will he. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1874robbo Posted November 3, 2011 Share Posted November 3, 2011 The wee man should never have been fired by the club... I'd take him back as managers tomorrow Totally love the guy and my all time hearts hero, but a manager for us again? No thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingantti1874 Posted November 3, 2011 Share Posted November 3, 2011 Totally love the guy and my all time hearts hero, but a manager for us again? No thanks. Did a good job, had us playing good stuff - certainly better than the current incumbent and booted that **** Csaba ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1874robbo Posted November 3, 2011 Share Posted November 3, 2011 Booting csaba was I'll agree a highlight ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floyd Posted November 3, 2011 Share Posted November 3, 2011 Booting csaba was I'll agree a highlight ? Sure was! Would take him back no problem, he has matured more and mellowed also. He admits himself that the job came along too soon for him, but when your club comes calling you answer. I hope he is back in charge one day! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diego10 Posted November 3, 2011 Share Posted November 3, 2011 Did a good job, had us playing good stuff - certainly better than the current incumbent and booted that **** Csaba ... I think he did a decent job with some very limited players and inheriting a poor situation. If Jamie McAllister hadn't been a rocket he'd have made a cup final as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drylaw Hearts Posted November 3, 2011 Share Posted November 3, 2011 Probably a pretty decent coach but I'm not so sure he'll manage in the SPL again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Gin Posted November 3, 2011 Share Posted November 3, 2011 The wee man should never have been fired by the club... I'd take him back as managers tomorrow Absolute legend and superb striker, but manager? The man can't manage his own diet, never mind Heart of Midlothian Football Club. No thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snake Plissken Posted November 3, 2011 Share Posted November 3, 2011 Robbo's trouble as a manager for us was that he wanted to play in a different way from Levein but didn't have the players to do it. There was also the feeling he didn't have the temperament to handle the pressure of managing a much bigger club. I remember saying at the time he needed to form the squad he wanted, I thought he'd eventually be successful if he was allowed the time. It's worth remembering that Levein was allowed a couple of relatively poor seasons to get trim a bloated squad and create the best central defensive partnership in the SPL. I think if he'd been allowed more time, he'd have been a success at Leicester, the trouble is the modern game doesn't allow a manager any time to get it right. Alex Ferguson would have been sacked long before he started winning trophies at Manchester United if he started there today. It's easy to look at a manager's record and decide he wasn't up to the job without taking the circumstances under consideration. Lest we forget, Robertson was only a few minutes away from taking us to the League Cup final in '05 (I will never forgive Jamie McAllister) and took as the semi final of the Scottish cup. We also had that outstanding result in Switzerland with Robbo as manager, so it wasn't all bad with him at the helm. He just needed time he was never given. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie-Brown Posted November 4, 2011 Share Posted November 4, 2011 John Robertson served his apprenticeship at Hearts during a time when we were in almost constant crisis and visits from the sheriff officers were a regular occurrence. We came through those crises and we'll come through the same now. I still think Robbo's got 1 more crack at the SPL if a club will give him the chance, he's older & more experienced now than when he was 1st Hearts manager. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zen Jambo Posted November 4, 2011 Share Posted November 4, 2011 I'd resign him for a third time. Better than any of the other second commings we've signed in the past few years. And a proven goal scoring record. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yabadabadoo1874again Posted November 4, 2011 Share Posted November 4, 2011 This...will come true(.) The wee man should never have been fired by the club... I'd take him back as managers tomorrow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingantti1874 Posted November 4, 2011 Share Posted November 4, 2011 Absolute legend and superb striker, but manager? The man can't manage his own diet, never mind Heart of Midlothian Football Club. No thanks. That's harsh, I'll tell you what - we were a damn sight more enjoyable to go watch than we have been under most mangers since he left.... And certainly better than the present man in the hotseat who has about double the budget... I guarantee we wouldn't be playing with 3cdm at home to killie that's for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coco Posted November 4, 2011 Share Posted November 4, 2011 It seems like distant history now, but for me Robbo did a good job as manager. Dealt with the off field strife of the takeover without any public histrionics. Managed us to possibly our greatest European win away in Basle. Got us close in both Cups. I thought the football was better to watch than his predecessors. And it is forgotten how well we played in the Andy Davies game. If I recall right, he had Chesney and Miko playing as wide strikers off a central striker (Miller?). It worked really well and was not something regularly seen in the SPL at that point. He'll always be my hero. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Agent Dale Cooper Posted November 4, 2011 Share Posted November 4, 2011 That's harsh, I'll tell you what - we were a damn sight more enjoyable to go watch than we have been under most mangers since he left.... And certainly better than the present man in the hotseat who has about double the budget... I guarantee we wouldn't be playing with 3cdm at home to killie that's for sure. Double the budget???....absolute horse manure....He's signed no players so far, and as we've just settled a 500k tax bill and are a month behind on wages. i think it's fair to say then that the likelihood of him having any budget to spend in January is zip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingantti1874 Posted November 4, 2011 Share Posted November 4, 2011 Double the budget???....absolute horse manure....He's signed no players so far, and as we've just settled a 500k tax bill and are a month behind on wages. i think it's fair to say then that the likelihood of him having any budget to spend in January is zip Take your point mike, but Robbo would get more of out that squad IMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Agent Dale Cooper Posted November 4, 2011 Share Posted November 4, 2011 Take your point mike, but Robbo would get more of out that squad IMO He probably would at this juncture. Robbo's main asset would be as a motivator. I feel sorry for Sergio, as it must be nigh on impossible to gee on the team to any kind of performance right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmfc1440 Posted November 4, 2011 Share Posted November 4, 2011 This the same John Robertson who managed Livingston to the 1st Division Championship and then finished in 3rd place in the Scottish Premier the following season - that's quality. McInnes & Coyle couldn't match Robbo's domestic record nor Levein. Also the same Manager that won prmotion with yet another club - Inverness and then kept them up while playing "home" matches 100 miles away at Aberdeen - strength in adversity. Also went to Derry won a cup, played in Europe and saved them from relegation - all in 6 months - this the same man we're talking about on this site? Went to Hearts - started well and due to some confusion about whether the new board wanted a Manager or a Trainer was not appointed permanently - and then the club appointed a Manager after all. The most under-rated Manager in Scottish football and should climb higher than the SPL but felt some of the stuffing was knocked out of him by Hearts - but he should be back as he has the talent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diego10 Posted November 4, 2011 Share Posted November 4, 2011 This the same John Robertson who managed Livingston to the 1st Division Championship and then finished in 3rd place in the Scottish Premier the following season - that's quality. McInnes & Coyle couldn't match Robbo's domestic record nor Levein. Also the same Manager that won prmotion with yet another club - Inverness and then kept them up while playing "home" matches 100 miles away at Aberdeen - strength in adversity. Also went to Derry won a cup, played in Europe and saved them from relegation - all in 6 months - this the same man we're talking about on this site? Went to Hearts - started well and due to some confusion about whether the new board wanted a Manager or a Trainer was not appointed permanently - and then the club appointed a Manager after all. The most under-rated Manager in Scottish football and should climb higher than the SPL but felt some of the stuffing was knocked out of him by Hearts - but he should be back as he has the talent. quite a lot of that is wrong to be honest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmfc1440 Posted November 4, 2011 Share Posted November 4, 2011 Care to enlighten us? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diego10 Posted November 4, 2011 Share Posted November 4, 2011 Care to enlighten us? He didn't get Livvy promoted or finish 3rd in the league with them. Davie Hay was the manager who did that. Robbo took over as Livvy Manager after he'd been at Hearts and despite doing a decent job first season couldn't keep them up. was sacked after finishing midtable in the first division (although given the situation they were in financially, hardly surprising) Did get Inverness promoted, but didn?t keep them up because he left to join us when they were bottom of the league. He might have done if he?d stayed but Brewster kept them up (more with his goals than any managerial ability it appears) Was a permanent appointment at Hearts but after completing his takeover, Romanov offered him a role underneath manager which he turned down and was sacked. I like him, and think the circumstances around his time at Hearts were really difficult. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamboozy Posted November 4, 2011 Share Posted November 4, 2011 Robbo's a legend at Hearts, and it would be a very brave man to come in as a manager and risk tarnishing that status, Robbo was man enough the 1st time and he would be brave enough & man enough to do it a second, HE IS AS HEARTS AS ANY OF US. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wavydavy Posted November 4, 2011 Share Posted November 4, 2011 John Robertson was on BBC saying that he has confidence that we can move past this 'crisis'. Let's all have Robbo's attitude Robbo is just hoping that he will get the next Manager's job once Sergio is sacked hence the nice comments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmfc1440 Posted November 4, 2011 Share Posted November 4, 2011 He didn't get Livvy promoted or finish 3rd in the league with them. Davie Hay was the manager who did that. Robbo took over as Livvy Manager after he'd been at Hearts and despite doing a decent job first season couldn't keep them up. was sacked after finishing midtable in the first division (although given the situation they were in financially, hardly surprising) Did get Inverness promoted, but didn?t keep them up because he left to join us when they were bottom of the league. He might have done if he?d stayed but Brewster kept them up (more with his goals than any managerial ability it appears) Was a permanent appointment at Hearts but after completing his takeover, Romanov offered him a role underneath manager which he turned down and was sacked. I like him, and think the circumstances around his time at Hearts were really difficult. Yes. First spell at Livi was as 1st team coach and not manager so happy to stand corrected on that one. 2 semi's at Inverness, Bell's challenge cup winners and did play home matches at Aberdeen so considerable contribution at Inverness. Romanov did not make clear the position on offer is what I was advised. However, in saying this thanks for pointing out the Livi position because I was misled on the 1st item which has great significance. Also, took Ross County to top of table in short time and identified many of their young players. What I am looking at here is that Robbo appears to be able to identify young players, assemble a squad and motivate them and now that he is older he will have more respect from older players - I think his work as a manager is incomplete but not sure if the SPL is where his future lies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Someday Posted November 4, 2011 Share Posted November 4, 2011 I hope Robbo manages Hearts again sometime soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diego10 Posted November 4, 2011 Share Posted November 4, 2011 Yes. First spell at Livi was as 1st team coach and not manager so happy to stand corrected on that one. 2 semi's at Inverness, Bell's challenge cup winners and did play home matches at Aberdeen so considerable contribution at Inverness. Romanov did not make clear the position on offer is what I was advised. However, in saying this thanks for pointing out the Livi position because I was misled on the 1st item which has great significance. Also, took Ross County to top of table in short time and identified many of their young players. What I am looking at here is that Robbo appears to be able to identify young players, assemble a squad and motivate them and now that he is older he will have more respect from older players - I think his work as a manager is incomplete but not sure if the SPL is where his future lies. As far as I remember with Hearts, Romanov said that he liked Robbo and wanted him to stay, but working beside a more experienced manager. Robbo wanted to stay in sole charge. That's personal recollection, so I may be wrong. I think the uncertainty had a lot to do with his poor finish to his time at Hearts. After we beat Celtic in the league we were 5 points behind Hibs with them to play twice and a cup semi coming up. Then the speculation that Romanov was going to replace him started and we.had a terrible end to the season. He was the only manager who got much out of Miko in my opiniin and in Burchill and Miller, we had a strike pairing that worked as a partnership. Would love to have seen what he could have achieved with the resources Burley got. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmfc1440 Posted November 4, 2011 Share Posted November 4, 2011 As far as I remember with Hearts, Romanov said that he liked Robbo and wanted him to stay, but working beside a more experienced manager. Robbo wanted to stay in sole charge. That's personal recollection, so I may be wrong. I think the uncertainty had a lot to do with his poor finish to his time at Hearts. After we beat Celtic in the league we were 5 points behind Hibs with them to play twice and a cup semi coming up. Then the speculation that Romanov was going to replace him started and we.had a terrible end to the season. He was the only manager who got much out of Miko in my opiniin and in Burchill and Miller, we had a strike pairing that worked as a partnership. Would love to have seen what he could have achieved with the resources Burley got. The game at Parkhead where Hearts won 2-0 with Miller and Burchill scoring (supporting your quote above) was dominated by Marius Kizys who should have been retained by Hearts. Agree that he was the only Manager to get something from Miko further supporting the case for Robbo as a motivational Manager. Perhaps he'll get a decent slot in the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rossthejambo Posted November 4, 2011 Share Posted November 4, 2011 Robbo's trouble as a manager for us was that he wanted to play in a different way from Levein but didn't have the players to do it. There was also the feeling he didn't have the temperament to handle the pressure of managing a much bigger club. I remember saying at the time he needed to form the squad he wanted, I thought he'd eventually be successful if he was allowed the time. It's worth remembering that Levein was allowed a couple of relatively poor seasons to get trim a bloated squad and create the best central defensive partnership in the SPL. I think if he'd been allowed more time, he'd have been a success at Leicester, the trouble is the modern game doesn't allow a manager any time to get it right. Alex Ferguson would have been sacked long before he started winning trophies at Manchester United if he started there today. It's easy to look at a manager's record and decide he wasn't up to the job without taking the circumstances under consideration. Lest we forget, Robertson was only a few minutes away from taking us to the League Cup final in '05 (I will never forgive Jamie McAllister) and took as the semi final of the Scottish cup. We also had that outstanding result in Switzerland with Robbo as manager, so it wasn't all bad with him at the helm. He just needed time he was never given. Excellent post and sums up my feelings on the matter, although it's tainted by your mention of that snake McAllister Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingantti1874 Posted November 4, 2011 Share Posted November 4, 2011 Can anyone tell me what was bad about robbos time as boss... ? Cant remeber a horrendous run of results or performances... We scored a lot of goals, it was good fun!! And he's the best of all the legends IMO... I hope he gets the gig again but not until after vr has left or it will all end in tears again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diego10 Posted November 4, 2011 Share Posted November 4, 2011 Can anyone tell me what was bad about robbos time as boss... ? Cant remeber a horrendous run of results or performances... We scored a lot of goals, it was good fun!! And he's the best of all the legends IMO... I hope he gets the gig again but not until after vr has left or it will all end in tears again We had a shocking run in. Lost 6 and drew 2 of the last 8. Mitigating circumstances for that imo, but it kind of lost him a lot of support for being retained, especially as Hibs finished 3rd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingantti1874 Posted November 4, 2011 Share Posted November 4, 2011 We had a shocking run in. Lost 6 and drew 2 of the last 8. Mitigating circumstances for that imo, but it kind of lost him a lot of support for being retained, especially as Hibs finished 3rd. Must have blanked that from my memory - still not as bad as last seasons run in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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