tartofmidlothian Posted September 7, 2011 Posted September 7, 2011 http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/mobile/scotland/14819867.stm Apologies if posted. Discuss.
jambonian Posted September 7, 2011 Posted September 7, 2011 strange! I watched the whole game and didn't think the ref done anything wrong. Zaliukas can do one as far as i'm concerned.
Dr. Bapswent Posted September 7, 2011 Posted September 7, 2011 strange! I watched the whole game and didn't think the ref done anything wrong. Zaliukas can do one as far as i'm concerned. Multiple references on the radio to Scotland being treated 'favourably' by the ref.
jambonian Posted September 7, 2011 Posted September 7, 2011 Multiple references on the radio to Scotland being treated 'favourably' by the ref. Too little too late though. Shame the ref last Saturday wasn't more "favourable"!
Jamdub Posted September 7, 2011 Posted September 7, 2011 http://news.bbc.co.u...nd/14819867.stm Apologies if posted. Discuss.
rossthejambo Posted September 7, 2011 Posted September 7, 2011 Good ol' Zal. Don't think there's really that much wrong with what he said.
Ryan Gosling Posted September 7, 2011 Posted September 7, 2011 The ref gave Scotland a lot of soft fouls last night.
cosanostra Posted September 7, 2011 Posted September 7, 2011 Stupid comments. There wasn't one contentious decision and he let their players away with about 4 very late challenges after the ball was gone with no bookings. Obviously said in the heat of the moment and with some bitterness because his team were awful and 3 or 4 nil would have been a fairer reflection.
The Merse Posted September 7, 2011 Posted September 7, 2011 I didn't really notice too many examples of this TBH.
Guest Dipped Flake Posted September 7, 2011 Posted September 7, 2011 I thought the ref was very fair and also didn't fall for the diving antics (on either side before our Lithuanian fans get all upset).
theo1874 Posted September 7, 2011 Posted September 7, 2011 Don't really see anything wrong with what he said. Scotland were terrible again and probably a draw would have been a fair result. Didn't see any point in the match where we 'dominated' either. Having said that, still glad we won.
Chris Benoit Posted September 7, 2011 Posted September 7, 2011 Thought there was a couple of times they might have got a free kick and didn't saying that they certainly didn't deserve a draw but had a couple of chances they should have scored from
Sheiky Baby Posted September 7, 2011 Posted September 7, 2011 Zal is having a nightmare on and off the field at the moment. What a fud...
cosanostra Posted September 7, 2011 Posted September 7, 2011 Don't really see anything wrong with what he said. Scotland were terrible again and probably a draw would have been a fair result. Didn't see any point in the match where we 'dominated' either. Having said that, still glad we won. Eh.... what? How on earth would a draw have been a fair result? They had one chance in the whole game. Scotland had enough to win 3 games. They barely touched the ball in the first half and the 2nd was pretty even. What are you basing that view on?
Dr. Bapswent Posted September 7, 2011 Posted September 7, 2011 Eh.... what? How on earth would a draw have been a fair result? They had one chance in the whole game. Scotland had enough to win 3 games - but didn't . They barely touched the ball in the first half and the 2nd was pretty even. What are you basing that view on? It seems you are basing your assumption on chances..... you can have a million chances but if you cant score it doesn't matter. They might only touch the ball once - but if that ends up being a goal it still counts.
The Treasurer Posted September 7, 2011 Posted September 7, 2011 Great to see all these so-called Hearts fans that are so quick to have a go at OUR club captain.
Diego10 Posted September 7, 2011 Posted September 7, 2011 He should have given us a second penalty. I thought overall he had a very decent game.
cosanostra Posted September 7, 2011 Posted September 7, 2011 It seems you are basing your assumption on chances..... you can have a million chances but if you cant score it doesn't matter. They might only touch the ball once - but if that ends up being a goal it still counts. Chances and possession and quality of play actually. Basically, Scotland were far and away the better team.
Dr. Bapswent Posted September 7, 2011 Posted September 7, 2011 Chances and possession and quality of play actually. Basically, Scotland were far and away the better team. z Yes - but only scored 1 goal.
DC_92 Posted September 7, 2011 Posted September 7, 2011 Don't really see anything wrong with what he said. Scotland were terrible again and probably a draw would have been a fair result. Didn't see any point in the match where we 'dominated' either. Having said that, still glad we won. If Scotland were terrible then what were Lithuania? I don't even think they had a shot on target. According to uefa.com, they had 7 shots, all off target and we had 17 shots, 5 on target. We also had 9 corners to their 2. As for not having a period of domination, Lithuania must have crossed the half-way line 2 or 3 times in the first half. Someone mentioned that a stat came up in the first half showing we had 70% possession. If Scotland had put in a performance like Lithuania's then no one would have said we deserved a draw.
The Merse Posted September 7, 2011 Posted September 7, 2011 Yes - but only scored 1 goal. And Lithuania scored 0 goals, so how did they deserve a draw?
cosanostra Posted September 7, 2011 Posted September 7, 2011 Yes - but only scored 1 goal. Em....yeah, clearly. I have no idea what your point is. You just seem to be stating the obvious repeatedly. Are you suggesting that a draw would have been a fair result? If so, I'd like to know what that view is based on.
Francis Albert Posted September 7, 2011 Posted September 7, 2011 "Player expresses biased opinion in favour of his team" shock.
Chad Sexington Posted September 7, 2011 Posted September 7, 2011 Can anyone tell me what the **** Baps is on about?
DC_92 Posted September 7, 2011 Posted September 7, 2011 And Lithuania scored 0 goals, so how did they deserve a draw? I was about to type a longer reply but this hits the nail on the head much more succintly. **** knows what his point is.
cosanostra Posted September 7, 2011 Posted September 7, 2011 Can anyone tell me what the **** Baps is on about? I've been wondering the same.
mayfield Posted September 7, 2011 Posted September 7, 2011 Zal is having a nightmare on and off the field at the moment. What a fud... Have to agree here
Dr. Bapswent Posted September 7, 2011 Posted September 7, 2011 And Lithuania scored 0 goals, so how did they deserve a draw? Where did I say they deserved a draw?
Francis Albert Posted September 7, 2011 Posted September 7, 2011 Every week of the season players and managers come out with these sorts of comments. Do we expect Lithuanians to be uniquely balanced and objective when it comes to their team? A "clown", "having a nightmare"?
Chad Sexington Posted September 7, 2011 Posted September 7, 2011 Every week of the season players and managers come out with these sorts of comments. Do we expect Lithuanians to be uniquely balanced and objective when it comes to their team? A "clown", "having a nightmare"? Agreed. Poor form ripping into our captain, even if, like me, you disagree with his assessment of the game.
jambonian Posted September 7, 2011 Posted September 7, 2011 Great to see all these so-called Hearts fans that are so quick to have a go at OUR club captain. That's just it though, he wasn't wearing a Hearts top last night, he was wearing the colours of his country, a country that is a rival in our group therefore he should be seen as that, he wasn't the Hearts captain last night and there was no Hearts connection to the game. Maybe some folk should try to divide their loyalties from their club team to their country.
Shaggy2 Posted September 7, 2011 Posted September 7, 2011 I thought Zal was fouled in the build up to the goal. Ok, it was 40 seconds later the goal was scored but Lithuania never regained possession. Ironically it was probably Zal's theatrics that resulted in the free kick not being given. The ref could also have taken a dim view of Caldwell hauling their centre forward down when a shot from 18 yards looked very much on the cards? Billy Dodds, everyone's favourite pundit, said on the radio he thought the ref had a blinder because he gave us everything! Zal's on another planet if he thinks Lithuania deserved a draw though.
rossthejambo Posted September 7, 2011 Posted September 7, 2011 That's just it though, he wasn't wearing a Hearts top last night, he was wearing the colours of his country, a country that is a rival in our group therefore he should be seen as that, he wasn't the Hearts captain last night and there was no Hearts connection to the game. Maybe some folk should try to divide their loyalties from their club team to their country. Find that rather rich considering your stance on Zal when he's wearing a Hearts strip.
DC_92 Posted September 7, 2011 Posted September 7, 2011 Where did I say they deserved a draw? So you were just arguing for the sake of arguing then?
Winnipeg Willie Posted September 7, 2011 Posted September 7, 2011 Maybe the ref will favour Lithunia when they play the Czechs and we'll all be happy.
The Treasurer Posted September 7, 2011 Posted September 7, 2011 That's just it though, he wasn't wearing a Hearts top last night, he was wearing the colours of his country, a country that is a rival in our group therefore he should be seen as that, he wasn't the Hearts captain last night and there was no Hearts connection to the game. Maybe some folk should try to divide their loyalties from their club team to their country. He is the club captain on a permanant basis, not just for 90 minutes on a Saturday afternoon. I find it strange that so-called Hearts fans are quick to condem him for having a biased (but wrong) view of his country's team yet the same so-called Hearts fans wouldn't dream of criticising any of the OF players who expressed a similar (and equally wrong) view that Scotland deserved a better result than they got on Saturday.
maroonshrew Posted September 7, 2011 Posted September 7, 2011 Too little too late though. Shame the ref last Saturday wasn't more "favourable"! he was
Dr. Bapswent Posted September 7, 2011 Posted September 7, 2011 So you were just arguing for the sake of arguing then? No
jambonian Posted September 7, 2011 Posted September 7, 2011 Find that rather rich considering your stance on Zal when he's wearing a Hearts strip. I've never rated him and always said so but the point is, he wasn't wearing a Hearts top last night and was in a rival team, a team in the same qualifying group as us so i don't get why folk have brought up "Hearts captain" nothing to do with our club this game.
DC_92 Posted September 7, 2011 Posted September 7, 2011 No You argued against someone pointing out that Lithuania didn't deserve a draw. But you don't think Lithuania deserved a draw. Right.
Simo Posted September 7, 2011 Posted September 7, 2011 Great to see all these so-called Hearts fans that are so quick to have a go at OUR club captain. Our captain was talking shite. People pointed this out. Don't see the problem
We_are_the_Hearts Posted September 7, 2011 Posted September 7, 2011 Some Hearts fans sadden me. Our Club Captain speaks his mind and is a clown, told to shut up. Dearie me. No sense of loyalty at all.
The Treasurer Posted September 7, 2011 Posted September 7, 2011 Our captain was talking shite. People pointed this out. Don't see the problem Read my second post on this topic
cosanostra Posted September 7, 2011 Posted September 7, 2011 I like Zal and I think he's been a good player and a pretty good captain for us. He also played quite well last night I thought although his team were dreadful. They actually looked worse that Liechtenstein. He's just talking pish here as a good result against the country he plays in clearly meant a lot to him and he was upset. Hardly surprising.
magicTs Posted September 7, 2011 Posted September 7, 2011 I like Zal and I think he's been a good player and a pretty good captain for us. He also played quite well last night I thought although his team were dreadful. They actually looked worse that Liechtenstein. He's just talking pish here as a good result against the country he plays in clearly meant a lot to him and he was upset. Hardly surprising. End of thread.
rossthejambo Posted September 7, 2011 Posted September 7, 2011 I've never rated him and always said so but the point is, he wasn't wearing a Hearts top last night and was in a rival team, a team in the same qualifying group as us so i don't get why folk have brought up "Hearts captain" nothing to do with our club this game. It's been said already, he's still the Hearts captain regardless of what strip he happened to be wearing last night.
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