hmfc fan Posted July 11, 2011 Share Posted July 11, 2011 Alan Mclarens interview just on ssn , The reporter said something about a loan deal , Would you be happy with this , I wouldnt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grumpyjambo Posted July 11, 2011 Share Posted July 11, 2011 Alan Mclarens interview just on ssn , The reporter said something about a loan deal , Would you be happy with this , I wouldnt I kind of get the impression that legally Hearts cannot sack him so a sideways move seems like the best option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingantti1874 Posted July 11, 2011 Share Posted July 11, 2011 i think i speak for the majority when i say ' i dont care' im happy he wont play for hearts and thats the end of that... cmon guys - lets put this one to bed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Van Wilder Posted July 11, 2011 Share Posted July 11, 2011 More to the point who is going to want him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vegas-voss Posted July 11, 2011 Share Posted July 11, 2011 More to the point who is going to want him? Kaunas Basically it's go there or nowhere I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paolo Posted July 11, 2011 Share Posted July 11, 2011 Alan Mclarens interview just on ssn , The reporter said something about a loan deal , Would you be happy with this , I wouldnt Yes, Can I ask why you wouldn't? What difference would it be if he left us and permanently signed for another club? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Rabbit Posted July 11, 2011 Share Posted July 11, 2011 Supposedly was mention that he may go to Kaunas! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Lithuania Posted July 11, 2011 Share Posted July 11, 2011 To FBK Kaunas or FC Partizan Minsk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Van Wilder Posted July 11, 2011 Share Posted July 11, 2011 Supposedly was mention that he may go to Kaunas! I'd find that slightly amusing if i'm honest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff Kilpatrick Posted July 11, 2011 Share Posted July 11, 2011 If I was him, I'd retire first and push trolleys round Asda. Mind you, could Asda cope with the pitchforks and torches? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fxxx the SPFL Posted July 11, 2011 Share Posted July 11, 2011 Yes, Can I ask why you wouldn't? What difference would it be if he left us and permanently signed for another club? As it says on the tin on loan would imply still on Hearts books, he needs to be punted full time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paolo Posted July 11, 2011 Share Posted July 11, 2011 As it says on the tin on loan would imply still on Hearts books, he needs to be punted full time. Other than for selfish reasons, why would that make a difference to punting him and someone taking him on? If he goes on loan for the remainder of his contract, I would not object. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coburg Hearts Posted July 11, 2011 Share Posted July 11, 2011 Alan Mclarens interview just on ssn , The reporter said something about a loan deal , Would you be happy with this , I wouldnt So lets get this. Some people are not happy that his career with Hearts is over, added to the fact the courts have given their punishment. No, some people would like to drive him out of the UK, and that not being enough, drive him out of Europe. (Last time I looked Kaunas was in Europe) What next? Drive him out of his mind until he tops himself? Have some people so little compassion that they want to draw the last drop of blood out of him. I just hope that they never make a serious mistake in their lives, but it seems they are all mr/mrs perfect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drylaw Hearts Posted July 11, 2011 Share Posted July 11, 2011 So lets get this. Some people are not happy that his career with Hearts is over, added to the fact the courts have given their punishment. No, some people would like to drive him out of the UK, and that not being enough, drive him out of Europe. (Last time I looked Kaunas was in Europe) What next? Drive him out of his mind until he tops himself? Have some people so little compassion that they want to draw the last drop of blood out of him. I just hope that they never make a serious mistake in their lives, but it seems they are all mr/mrs perfect. There is mistakes and then there is perving on children. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The People's Chimp Posted July 11, 2011 Share Posted July 11, 2011 Time to start melting the ST smartcards and sending them back to Tynie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coburg Hearts Posted July 11, 2011 Share Posted July 11, 2011 There is mistakes and then there is perving on children. So you'd like him to top himself? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mahgrassyshoes Posted July 11, 2011 Share Posted July 11, 2011 Time to start melting the ST smartcards and sending them back to Tynie. I'm starting a collection of season cards that are being returned to melt down and turn into a cross shaped stake. I'm then going to gather my garlic cloves and stake and head round to his house and drive it into his chest. Only sure fire way to get rid of a poeda peadof nonce. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ritchies75 Posted July 11, 2011 Share Posted July 11, 2011 He wont be playing for Hearts next season. Now lets draw a line under it and look forward to Friday's draw and what could be a very good season for Hearts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boris Posted July 11, 2011 Share Posted July 11, 2011 So lets get this. Some people are not happy that his career with Hearts is over, added to the fact the courts have given their punishment. No, some people would like to drive him out of the UK, and that not being enough, drive him out of Europe. (Last time I looked Kaunas was in Europe) What next? Drive him out of his mind until he tops himself? Have some people so little compassion that they want to draw the last drop of blood out of him. I just hope that they never make a serious mistake in their lives, but it seems they are all mr/mrs perfect. There is mistakes and then there is perving on children. So you'd like him to top himself? Differentiating between mistakes and trying to groom kids hardly leads to the conclusion that one would like to see a suicide. I'd also add that it is very hard to be compassionate about someone who has systematically and knowingly gone out of his way to entrap a young girl. The only "positive" from this whole sorry affair is that he never managed to get his hands on any of his victims. I think , on the whole, that people are compassionate and forgiving about a great deal many things. Child grooming and sexual exploitation isn't one of them though. But then that's just my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucky Thompson Posted July 11, 2011 Share Posted July 11, 2011 He will never play for Hearts again! That's good enough for me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drylaw Hearts Posted July 11, 2011 Share Posted July 11, 2011 So you'd like him to top himself? Did I say that ? All I want is for him to GTF and cut all ties with Hearts. What he does after that I couldn't really care. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coburg Hearts Posted July 11, 2011 Share Posted July 11, 2011 Differentiating between mistakes and trying to groom kids hardly leads to the conclusion that one would like to see a suicide. I'd also add that it is very hard to be compassionate about someone who has systematically and knowingly gone out of his way to entrap a young girl. The only "positive" from this whole sorry affair is that he never managed to get his hands on any of his victims. I think , on the whole, that people are compassionate and forgiving about a great deal many things. Child grooming and sexual exploitation isn't one of them though. But then that's just my opinion. All fair points, Boris, but what I'm trying to get at is some peoples unquenchable thirst for blood. Thomson had to be punished, I'm sure no one is disputing that, but where does it stop? That's all I'm asking, really. BTW, if our Justice Minister can show compassion to the biggest mass murderer in modern times and set him free, then surely it's not asking too much that CT might possibly receive a little in the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coburg Hearts Posted July 11, 2011 Share Posted July 11, 2011 All I want is for him to GTF and cut all ties with Hearts. What he does after that I couldn't really care. We can at least agree on that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jezza Posted July 11, 2011 Share Posted July 11, 2011 Still being paid a wage from the club is a bit of a shanner but it's better than him playing in maroon. I still think Vlad has some small hope he will get some dosh for him. Could end up in Russia or somewhere, I don't think his career is over by any means. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drylaw Hearts Posted July 11, 2011 Share Posted July 11, 2011 All fair points, Boris, but what I'm trying to get at is some peoples unquenchable thirst for blood. Thomson had to be punished, I'm sure no one is disputing that, but where does it stop? That's all I'm asking, really. BTW, if our Justice Minister can show compassion to the biggest mass murderer in modern times and set him free, then surely it's not asking too much that CT might possibly receive a little in the future. There is something different about an adult grooming children that makes them public enemy No.1. I suspect the odds are high he'll re-offend at some point in his life and I'd just rather he wasn't anywhere near our club when he eventually does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coburg Hearts Posted July 11, 2011 Share Posted July 11, 2011 There is something different about an adult grooming children that makes them public enemy No.1. I suspect the odds are high he'll re-offend at some point in his life and I'd just rather he wasn't anywhere near our club when he eventually does. Can't disagree with that, though I hope the bit about re-offending is wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ross21 Posted July 11, 2011 Share Posted July 11, 2011 BTW, if our Justice Minister can show compassion to the biggest mass murderer in modern times and set him free, then surely it's not asking too much that CT might possibly receive a little in the future. I'm sure everyone would agree that he got that one badly wrong! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBjambo Posted July 11, 2011 Share Posted July 11, 2011 Sick to the back teeth of this topic... The morally outraged on here do my head in. He's gone, we will never see him in a Hearts jersey again... Now get a ******* life or find another cause to crusade! ... I hear they eat puppys in Korea Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gorgie rd eh11 Posted July 11, 2011 Share Posted July 11, 2011 There is something different about an adult grooming children that makes them public enemy No.1. I suspect the odds are high he'll re-offend at some point in his life and I'd just rather he wasn't anywhere near our club when he eventually does. I doubt he will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coburg Hearts Posted July 11, 2011 Share Posted July 11, 2011 I'm sure everyone would agree that he got that one badly wrong! Big time!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boris Posted July 11, 2011 Share Posted July 11, 2011 All fair points, Boris, but what I'm trying to get at is some peoples unquenchable thirst for blood. Thomson had to be punished, I'm sure no one is disputing that, but where does it stop? That's all I'm asking, really. BTW, if our Justice Minister can show compassion to the biggest mass murderer in modern times and set him free, then surely it's not asking too much that CT might possibly receive a little in the future. I see what you mean re the bloodlust. I'm far from a pitchfork and torch type of person myself. I'm sure everyone would agree that he got that one badly wrong! I don't mean to be contrary, but I think the Justice Minister did what he did based on the evidence provided to him at the time and in line with Scots Law. The fact Al-Magrahi hasn't died yet due to his condition isn't really the Justice Minister's fault. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunks Posted July 11, 2011 Share Posted July 11, 2011 I'm sure everyone would agree that he got that one badly wrong! I'm positive everyone wouldn't - but that's a different thread. Hearts may well be unable to sack him as the courts have already served "justice". Again, the sentence handed down is for another thread though. CT not playing again for Hearts will do for me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff Kilpatrick Posted July 11, 2011 Share Posted July 11, 2011 I see what you mean re the bloodlust. I'm far from a pitchfork and torch type of person myself. I don't mean to be contrary, but I think the Justice Minister did what he did based on the evidence provided to him at the time and in line with Scots Law. The fact Al-Magrahi hasn't died yet due to his condition isn't really the Justice Minister's fault. Not forgetting the fact that Al-Megrahi was a patsy but that's a Shed debate. A pisspoor analogy comparing Thomson to the supposed Lockerbie bomber in the first place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maroonlegions Posted July 11, 2011 Share Posted July 11, 2011 "Hearts owner Vladimir Romanov has told convicted sex offender Craig Thomson he will not play for the Scottish Premier League club again". The club had initially stood by the 20-year-old defender. But they said on Sunday: "Craig Thomson will leave Heart of Midlothian Football Club imminently. link; http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/14099136.stm Yes, he is history, no ties to this club, loans or not; Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itsnomarooned Posted July 11, 2011 Share Posted July 11, 2011 I didn't hear the interview (and there doesn't appear to be anything on the SSN website) but can I clarify what the circumstances were around mention of a loan. Was this just thrown in by the reporter to see the reaction? If so then presumably it's just speculation and nothing more. Also, was Kaunus actually mentioned or has that just been put into a post on here and all of a sudden it's gospel (I've just been approached by a colleague who says that the "rumour" is that he's going to Kaunus - hardly a bona-fide rumour). The statement on the club website remains somewhat ambiguous but quotes attributed to Romanov are "I have reviewed all the facts of his case and understand he has done a wrong thing. This is a very bad example and he will not playing for the club again." While I accept that Romanov isn't the most predicatble of fellows, this hardly seems consistent with then allowing CT to play at another of his own clubs. In terms of sacking him that window of opportunity has passed (unless there are further police investigations - which the Scotsman seem to think there are). The position we're in now is that we can part company but will need to negotiate an appropriate compensation in terms of the remainder of his contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Creepy Lurker Posted July 11, 2011 Share Posted July 11, 2011 If the Kaunas rumour is true, then what I'd find disappointing would be that it'd seem probable that the club's stance on this wouldn't seem to have changed at all: rather, his 'dismissal' would be a face-saving exercise aimed at avoiding bad press, while our ownership still tried behind the scenes - for whatever reason - to continue looking after Thomson. Then again, I'm probably just permanently outraged or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dellboy1971 Posted July 11, 2011 Share Posted July 11, 2011 Craig thomson to move abroad to one off ROMANOV other clubs abroad Would you taken him back once off sex offenders register In 5 years time Do you not believe everyone deserves a second chance He's still young and silly boy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dellboy1971 Posted July 11, 2011 Share Posted July 11, 2011 Craig thomson to move abroad to one off ROMANOV other clubs abroad Would you taken him back once off sex offenders register In 5 years time Do you not believe everyone deserves a second chance He's still young and silly boy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmfc fan Posted July 11, 2011 Author Share Posted July 11, 2011 Craig thomson to move abroad to one off ROMANOV other clubs abroad Would you taken him back once off sex offenders register In 5 years time Do you not believe everyone deserves a second chance He's still young and silly boy Theres already been a post about it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenor Posted July 11, 2011 Share Posted July 11, 2011 NOT A ******* CHANCE! Ridiculous questions. END OF! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djf Posted July 11, 2011 Share Posted July 11, 2011 I'd be very disappointed if CT moved to one of Vlad's other clubs. He should have no connection with our club. Romanov should want nothing to do with him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Socrates Posted July 11, 2011 Share Posted July 11, 2011 Great. Another Thomson thread. Nice misleading title as well. I would prefer he never plays for Hearts again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenor Posted July 11, 2011 Share Posted July 11, 2011 NOT A ******* CHANCE! Ridiculous questions. END OF! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBigO Posted July 11, 2011 Share Posted July 11, 2011 Mods. Please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Creepy Lurker Posted July 11, 2011 Share Posted July 11, 2011 Haikus can be pretty But sometimes they make no sense Refrigerator Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenor Posted July 11, 2011 Share Posted July 11, 2011 It doesn't matter, because nobody will want him in their team and nobody will play with him! Their fans will be just as incensed by the situation as us! HE'S AWAY! LET'S F*CKIN' GET ON WITH OUR CLUB! IT'S OVER! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamboinglasgow Posted July 11, 2011 Share Posted July 11, 2011 Am I alone in thinking the club can't win no matter what it does. It makes the wrong decision first time and rightly gets criticised for it. It now has made the correct decision and people are trying to attacking the club on rumours derived from looking too closely at the statement and the comments from an ex player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Creepy Lurker Posted July 11, 2011 Share Posted July 11, 2011 Am I alone in thinking the club can't win no matter what it does. It makes the wrong decision first time and rightly gets criticised for it. It now has made the correct decision and people are trying to attacking the club on rumours derived from looking too closely at the statement and the comments from an ex player. Sorry, mate: you're going to have to clear this one up for me. Are you suggesting that the only two options open to the club in this instance are either to keep Thomson on as an employee or loan him out to one of Romanov's other clubs? It's quite simple: sack Thomson. Do not send him on loan to another football club in which Romanov has a stake. I would say, however, that the club now 'can't win' for me. Regardless of what is done now, I'll still have been disappointed by what went before and how long it took for the club to reach the right decision. I won't be boycotting and I won't be self-flagellating for the rest of my life over it, but I will remain disappointed. I hope that's okay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingantti1874 Posted July 11, 2011 Share Posted July 11, 2011 HE'S AWAY! LET'S F*CKIN' GET ON WITH OUR CLUB! IT'S OVER! absolutely this... this will be my last ever post on a thomson thread, if we stop replying they will go away Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamboAl Posted July 11, 2011 Share Posted July 11, 2011 So lets get this. Some people are not happy that his career with Hearts is over, added to the fact the courts have given their punishment. No, some people would like to drive him out of the UK, and that not being enough, drive him out of Europe. (Last time I looked Kaunas was in Europe) What next? Drive him out of his mind until he tops himself? Have some people so little compassion that they want to draw the last drop of blood out of him. I just hope that they never make a serious mistake in their lives, but it seems they are all mr/mrs perfect. Although CT has erred badly, I sympathise with this view. He has been punished including a ?4000 fine. He has lost his job which for a young lad is a serious loss of earnings and status. It is likely that he will never have that earning power again and will find job hunting difficult. How many times and how much must he pay for his sin bearing in mind he didn't actually touch any girl while murderers/rapists are afforded rehabilitation opportunities. The last thing I would want to do is to defend him or condone what he has done but surely there must be a point at which we say enough is enough and look to see what can be done to help him lead a decent life from now on. If of course he strays once more, all bets are off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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