jambovambo Posted June 8, 2011 Share Posted June 8, 2011 Great documentary ... Paige from Glasgow was amazingly astute for one so young. Give her a documentary job now. http://m.guardian.co.uk/society/2011/jun/04/children-lilving-poverty-uk?cat=society&type=article These kids were so resilient and articulate (albeit old for their years) in desperate situations. Way ahead of the Scheme - no poverty porn here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smallfaces Posted June 8, 2011 Share Posted June 8, 2011 it is demoralising that anyone has to live in such deprivation in the 21st century. but I agree, the kids were incredibly articulate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Doctor Posted June 8, 2011 Share Posted June 8, 2011 I only caught a bit of this last night, but contrasting it to The Scheme it was heartbreaking and challenging. How do the jobless folks in The Scheme get fancy clothes, wide screen TVs, jewellery, cars, drink, fags, drugs and even holidays in Majorca when they're on the same benefits as the families we saw last night? I know the answer, but it disgusts me. So is there such a thing as the deserving poor? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jambovambo Posted June 8, 2011 Author Share Posted June 8, 2011 I only caught a bit of this last night, but contrasting it to The Scheme it was heartbreaking and challenging. How do the jobless folks in The Scheme get fancy clothes, wide screen TVs, jewellery, cars, drink, fags, drugs and even holidays in Majorca when they're on the same benefits as the families we saw last night? I know the answer, but it disgusts me. So is there such a thing as the deserving poor? I really recommend you catch what you missed on iPlayer then ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott_HMFC1874 Posted June 8, 2011 Share Posted June 8, 2011 Found it amazing how some of these kids kept so enthusiastic and hopeful in such poverty. I was getting quite irate at the fact these kids are living in damp, going without food and a simple trip to the barbers yet those ***** on the scheme are getting everything paid for them, including their next fix. But the wee lassie from the gorbals was brilliant, really grown up for her age and hopefully changed the perception that the scheme has given Scotland that everyone in poverty is a junkie or content to live on benefits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dougal Posted June 8, 2011 Share Posted June 8, 2011 It's about time that the government started spending money helping families like we saw last night first and if there is any money left then sending it abroad. It was so sad to know that there are kids living like that in this country but we're sending money abroad before we help the people in this country. Charity starts at home. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying we shouldn't send money abroad but only after we have sorted problems here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tams bird Posted June 8, 2011 Share Posted June 8, 2011 One wee lassie said I dont want to grow up.. What does it say about this country... Hope Cameron is made to watch it.. One boy got his first trip to the barber for his 12th birthday, paid for by an auntie... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david mcgee Posted June 8, 2011 Share Posted June 8, 2011 ool One wee lassie said I dont want to grow up.. What does it say about this country... Hope Cameron is made to watch it.. One boy got his first trip to the barber for his 12th birthday, paid for by an auntie... That same boy was going to school in trousers 4 inches too short, yet " Charity " shops in every high street in the Country are selling school trousers for a quid. Makes you wonder how these not for profit organisations cant get their acts together and get these clothes to the needy kids in our own Country? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vlad-Stupid Posted June 8, 2011 Share Posted June 8, 2011 Cant believe housing associations and council's are allowed to house people in such poor conditions. The damp in the Glasgow flats was disgraceful Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jambovambo Posted June 8, 2011 Author Share Posted June 8, 2011 ool That same boy was going to school in trousers 4 inches too short, yet " Charity " shops in every high street in the Country are selling school trousers for a quid. Makes you wonder how these not for profit organisations cant get their acts together and get these clothes to the needy kids in our own Country? ANd don't get me started on "every little helps" supermarkets selling full school outfits for ?4 ... no one can be getting a fair wage wherever that is being made ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dode41 Posted June 8, 2011 Share Posted June 8, 2011 Cant believe housing associations and council's are allowed to house people in such poor conditions. The damp in the Glasgow flats was disgraceful Exactly,if the councillors were asked to push their pens in such conditions they would cite health and safety regulations yet don't bat an eyelid when it comes to housing families in that squalor. Makes you wonder about the millions Glasgow city council paid out in buying up land to build the facilities for the commonwealth games and if any profit generated will go back to the people who need it most,I doubt it somehow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
conn artist Posted June 8, 2011 Share Posted June 8, 2011 Exactly,if the councillors were asked to push their pens in such conditions they would cite health and safety regulations yet don't bat an eyelid when it comes to housing families in that squalor. Makes you wonder about the millions Glasgow city council paid out in buying up land to build the facilities for the commonwealth games and if any profit generated will go back to the people who need it most,I doubt it somehow. glasgow housing association (GHA) and the city council are two completely different organizations so no profits if any from the games will go into housing it will go into other council streams. it takes time to demolish such large tower blocks as the GHA have to rehouse hundreds of people before it is emptied which can take years. I am sure they are aware only too well how bad some of their housing stock has become and they should be ashamed of it. one of the blocks shown on the program last night is now a pile of rubble, thankfully, but it has two identical neighbours which may be in a similar condition (they dont look great from the outside when I pass). I have done condition surveying work of housing stock in the past of housing all over scotland and england and that mould in those tower blocks is about the worst I have ever seen. my last job saw us doing work with the GHA on planned internal and external maintenance programmes of housing throughout the city and it is an endless and very expensive process which means some of the old stock is in unbelievably poor in condition and if the end result is to demolish a building why spend more money on it if it is to be raised. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
netherleejambo Posted June 8, 2011 Share Posted June 8, 2011 Cant believe housing associations and council's are allowed to house people in such poor conditions. The damp in the Glasgow flats was disgraceful There is a huge difference between genuine Housing Associations which are generally relatively small, run by local people and provide good quality homes in their communities and GHA which is Glasgow City Council Housing Department in all but name. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heartgarfunkel Posted June 8, 2011 Share Posted June 8, 2011 I really shouldn't have been surprised as I've worked with young people who live in such circumstances for a long time now, but this got me really ******* angry and upset. Time for some Scandinavian style social democratic justice. *now ranting* I'm sure they're nice people but the fact we've got a 'Royal' family gives me the boak. Still, a quid gets you six hours of telly, so the Leicester family could have enjoyed all the coverage of Kate & Will's big day. Maybe our football club could donate any unsold commemorative mugs to the deserving poor, or invite them to a match for free? How about it Mr Southern? That sector of society is more relevant to HMFC and the game in general than the 'Windsors'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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