jambotony Posted May 8, 2011 Share Posted May 8, 2011 Anyone heard if will appeal the red handed out to Eggy? Surely with all the injuries, suspensions we have to appeal it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paolo Posted May 8, 2011 Share Posted May 8, 2011 No point. We appealed when Zal got headbutted but Brines still said he was correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hearts of Vladland Posted May 8, 2011 Share Posted May 8, 2011 Two words put end to that, Ian Brines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dean Winchester Posted May 8, 2011 Share Posted May 8, 2011 Brines is a prick and will never admit he was wrong. So it'd be rather pointless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P-Dizzle Posted May 8, 2011 Share Posted May 8, 2011 It would be a waste of time. I don't think it was a red, but he went in with both feet and scissored the guy down, there's no way the referee will say he made a mistake there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DETTY29 Posted May 8, 2011 Share Posted May 8, 2011 Depends how desperate we are for players and if we need anything from the game. If United do win Tuesday, I'd imagine we'd lodge an appeal around 3pm on Wednesday afternoon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coburg Hearts Posted May 8, 2011 Share Posted May 8, 2011 Depends how desperate we are for players and if we need anything from the game. If United do win Tuesday, I'd imagine we'd lodge an appeal around 3pm on Wednesday afternoon. 4.55pm might be safer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Only a Game Posted May 8, 2011 Share Posted May 8, 2011 It would be a waste of time. I don't think it was a red, but he went in with both feet and scissored the guy down, there's no way the referee will say he made a mistake there. Successfully appealing would not be the purpose of appealing though. Making the player available would be the point. Frankly I think we can do without Eggy on his current form, especially if we see sense and use Zaliukas. I'd play McGowan alongside him ( I thought McGowan was excellent at Ibrox when he had to fill in for Eggy) Move the liability that is Mroweic out of harms way and into defensive midfield and start Robinson. Job's a good un. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Old Tolbooth Posted May 8, 2011 Share Posted May 8, 2011 Brines is as corrupt and arrogant as they come, after showing how little of a spine he truly has by not rescinding Zal's card at Aberdeen, we've got zero chance of this one being overturned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beats Posted May 8, 2011 Share Posted May 8, 2011 Successfully appealing would not be the purpose of appealing though. Making the player available would be the point. Frankly I think we can do without Eggy on his current form, especially if we see sense and use Zaliukas. I'd play McGowan alongside him ( I thought McGowan was excellent at Ibrox when he had to fill in for Eggy) Move the liability that is Mroweic out of harms way and into defensive midfield and start Robinson. Job's a good un. Is Bouzid not back? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudi Posted May 8, 2011 Share Posted May 8, 2011 They'd be daft not too,don't think that SFA would have a meeting between now and wednesday,so make sense to appeal and have him available for selection(unless someone higher up doesn't want him to play for what ever reason). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Posted May 8, 2011 Share Posted May 8, 2011 Is Bouzid not back? he is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AppleTarts Posted May 8, 2011 Share Posted May 8, 2011 No point. We appealed when Zal got headbutted but Brines still said he was correct. Does anyone have footage of that incident? Would like to see it again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Posted May 8, 2011 Share Posted May 8, 2011 They'd be daft not too,don't think that SFA would have a meeting between now and wednesday,so make sense to appeal and have him available for selection(unless someone higher up doesn't want him to play for what ever reason). i think the 1st part of the appeal process is to ask the ref (or in this case, incompetent c u next tuesday) if he thinks he got the original decision wrong. this is why an appeal is futile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bighusref Posted May 8, 2011 Share Posted May 8, 2011 Never a red card. Ivanovic and Terry both made similar, yellow card offences today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The People's Chimp Posted May 8, 2011 Share Posted May 8, 2011 No it wasn't a red. Even though Brines is an arrogant fool, I'm not sure he was going to send him off till the linesman ran on and told him it was a red. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DETTY29 Posted May 8, 2011 Share Posted May 8, 2011 Never a red card. Ivanovic and Terry both made similar, yellow card offences today. There is another reason why Eggy shouldn't have been sent off, not a fair one, but they way things are in football. He was our match captain on the day. Unless it's a clear serious foul play, violent conduct or denying a clear goal scoring opportunity, captains do get a bit of leeway. I'm not sure what Hearts can do officially, but unofficially verbal contact should be made between direct representatives of the club, or agents (M15 taking Brines out would be handy) acting on behalf of us, to Stewart Rregan and John Fleming that we are far from happy with the way Brines referees us. I think I try to be open minded when it comes to refs, but how can only 10% or so of the games Brines refs us not end up with some sort sense of 'real' injustice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wavydavy Posted May 8, 2011 Share Posted May 8, 2011 Successfully appealing would not be the purpose of appealing though. Making the player available would be the point. Frankly I think we can do without Eggy on his current form, especially if we see sense and use Zaliukas. I'd play McGowan alongside him ( I thought McGowan was excellent at Ibrox when he had to fill in for Eggy) Move the liability that is Mroweic out of harms way and into defensive midfield and start Robinson. Job's a good un. Mrowiec is injured so may not make Wednesday anyway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benny Posted May 8, 2011 Share Posted May 8, 2011 Not worth the effort for a player that's average at best.Might be the wake up call we need for us to play our best team if United win on Tuesday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EIEIO Posted May 8, 2011 Share Posted May 8, 2011 Not worth the effort for a player that's average at best.Might be the wake up call we need for us to play our best team if United win on Tuesday. Bit harsh on Jonsson but if United win on Tuesday I'll really start to worry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle Buck Posted May 8, 2011 Share Posted May 8, 2011 Never a red card. Ivanovic and Terry both made similar, yellow card offences today. Weir got booked for a tackle on Skacel and Edu got booked for a tackle on Black. Both just as bad as Eggy's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Only a Game Posted May 8, 2011 Share Posted May 8, 2011 Bit harsh on Jonsson but if United win on Tuesday I'll really start to worry. There wont be anything left to worry about. If they win on Tuesday they'll finish 3rd. You can take that to the bank. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Francis Albert Posted May 8, 2011 Share Posted May 8, 2011 We should certainly appeal, despite the outcome being predictable. It was never a straight red. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbo-Jambo Posted May 8, 2011 Share Posted May 8, 2011 Mrowiec is injured so may not make Wednesday anyway Thank feck for that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
belly Posted May 9, 2011 Share Posted May 9, 2011 I don't think Eggy got sent off for the tackle, I think he got sent off for the handbags after it when he shoves the Rangers player in the chest. I thought that both should have received the same punishment as both were guilty of shoving each other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
basher161 Posted May 9, 2011 Share Posted May 9, 2011 Jonsson was red carded for 'violent conduct' which I can only assume was for pushing a Rangers player. If he was sent off for the tackle alone it would have been for 'serious foul play'. Either way, Ian Brines is a ******. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hawaii Posted May 9, 2011 Share Posted May 9, 2011 The crowd wanted Jonsson sent off so Brines folded. Plus the fact that Scotland internationalist Naismith lept in making it appear that it was a serious foul only inflamed the situation. Even Billy Dodds said it was at MOST a yellow card, but he did then go on to say that Brines has had a good season!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heartbeat Posted May 9, 2011 Share Posted May 9, 2011 I have just been told from someone at riccarton today that Hearts have indeed lodged an appeal on behalf of eggy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coburg Hearts Posted May 9, 2011 Share Posted May 9, 2011 We should certainly appeal, despite the outcome being predictable. It was never a straight red. Exactly, and there is the added bonus of more steam coming out of Lennon's ears if he thinks we are trying too hard to win this particular game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clerry Jambo Posted May 9, 2011 Share Posted May 9, 2011 Clumsy tackle from Eggert but never a Red, although we have to realise this was at Ibrox in front of 50,000 baying bears and 11 moany runts in blue jerseys who hounded Brines all day and in the main got away with it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drylaw Hearts Posted May 9, 2011 Share Posted May 9, 2011 Waste of a ?1000 imo. It was never a Red Card but given Ian Brines is a complete tit we have very little chance of this being turned over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tazio Posted May 9, 2011 Share Posted May 9, 2011 Jonsson was red carded for 'violent conduct' which I can only assume was for pushing a Rangers player. If he was sent off for the tackle alone it would have been for 'serious foul play'. Either way, Ian Brines is a ******. That makes it even more farcical then as he pushed back after he was shoved by a player who ran 15 yeards to push him despite having nothing to do with the initial incident. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Treasurer Posted May 9, 2011 Share Posted May 9, 2011 Clumsy tackle from Eggert but never a Red, although we have to realise this was at Ibrox in front of 50,000 baying bears and 11 moany runts in blue jerseys who hounded Brines all day and in the main got away with it It was the huns players (over)reaction that got him sent off, I've no doubt about that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DETTY29 Posted May 9, 2011 Share Posted May 9, 2011 It was the huns players (over)reaction that got him sent off, I've no doubt about that. I agree, but the linesman also came over very quickly, said something in Brines ear then scarperred - No deliberation at all. We got horsed primarly because Rangers have a miles bigger budget, better players especially in key areas, allow their manager to pick the team but it's outrageous that a team can commit 8 fouls, get 3 yellows, one red, a clear offside n ot given. Quite frankly - every official on Saturday stiffed us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ollie2004 Posted May 9, 2011 Share Posted May 9, 2011 Agree that the officials were their usual OF biased selves. Why was that thug Weir not at least booked for clearly taking Temps out, if so then his booking for fouling Rudi would have been red. Also Naismith was moaning all game and should have seen red, as Lafferty well he would have been the star diver in the other weeks El Classico in Madrid. A complaint should be lodged against the officials! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Francis Albert Posted May 9, 2011 Share Posted May 9, 2011 I agree, but the linesman also came over very quickly, said something in Brines ear then scarperred - No deliberation at all. We got horsed primarly because Rangers have a miles bigger budget, better players especially in key areas, allow their manager to pick the team but it's outrageous that a team can commit 8 fouls, get 3 yellows, one red, a clear offside n ot given. Quite frankly - every official on Saturday stiffed us. He certainly did. I may be paranoid, but linesmen do seem to play a more active role in refereeing Hearts games than they do others (while of course neglecting their main duty). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diego10 Posted May 9, 2011 Share Posted May 9, 2011 Waste of a ?1000 imo. It was never a Red Card but given Ian Brines is a complete tit we have very little chance of this being turned over. That about sums it up. Yet another of the ridiculous red cards we've had at Ibrox. Beginning to lose count of how many shockers we've had there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FTH Posted May 9, 2011 Share Posted May 9, 2011 That makes it even more farcical then as he pushed back after he was shoved by a player who ran 15 yeards to push him despite having nothing to do with the initial incident. Exactly. Although since two players pushed Eggert and both got a yellow each that will probably be judged as being fair as it is essentially two yellows per team...! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heartbeat Posted May 9, 2011 Share Posted May 9, 2011 I agree, but the linesman also came over very quickly, said something in Brines ear then scarperred - No deliberation at all. We got horsed primarly because Rangers have a miles bigger budget, better players especially in key areas, allow their manager to pick the team but it's outrageous that a team can commit 8 fouls, get 3 yellows, one red, a clear offside n ot given. Quite frankly - every official on Saturday stiffed us. There was an instance in the second half where the ball was send over the top wide to Jelavic i think. Craig Thomson was the nearest defender and he (as he ran ) opened his hands apart to show how far the guy ahead of him was offside, which was about two foot. Made to look even worse from the stand side camera angle that was almost behind the Linesman who even though looking along the line and CT demonstrating how far the guy was ahead of him simply kept his flag down. Pretty sure this is the same Lino that got involved in the eggy thing where not one but two gers players shoved Eggert. Its feking unbelievable.. Ps how much do I hate Naismith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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