Redseal Posted May 7, 2011 Share Posted May 7, 2011 i've only witnessed the one, a 2-1 win in '88 how many have you (why do hearts freeze on the big stage?, things never change) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commander Harris Posted May 7, 2011 Share Posted May 7, 2011 it's not a question of "freezing on the big stage" - it's usually a question of getting beaten by a better team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redseal Posted May 8, 2011 Author Share Posted May 8, 2011 it's not a question of "freezing on the big stage" - it's usually a question of getting beaten by a better team. we can give the OF a game at home through in glasgow, ibrox in particular, hearts simply shite it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drylaw Hearts Posted May 8, 2011 Share Posted May 8, 2011 5 in 25+ years. 4 v Rangers and 1 v Falkirk. Also..... In the 22 wins I've witnessed v Rangers (both H&A&N) JJ has been in charge for at least 7 of those wins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jambojase Posted May 8, 2011 Share Posted May 8, 2011 It is a really poor ground for us. The last wins being 85, 88, 96 and 04. What is frustrating is that Hibs have won there several times over the last few years. It truly is an awful ground for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
portobellojambo1 Posted May 8, 2011 Share Posted May 8, 2011 i've only witnessed the one, a 2-1 win in '88 how many have you (why do hearts freeze on the big stage?, things never change) 4, if you include the Scottish Cup semi final versus Falkirk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cosanostra Posted May 8, 2011 Share Posted May 8, 2011 I've seen 1 of them, the one where Joe Hamill (I think) scored. The season was already pretty much finished and the huns played a weakened team. I was at the 2-2 game in 97/98 where we were 1-0 and 2-1 up and Albertz scored with 2 x deflected free kicks and we used the orange ball. Cannot put into words how gutted I was at the end of that game. I hate Ibrox so much. Nothing but bad memories and disgusting home fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bighusref Posted May 8, 2011 Share Posted May 8, 2011 It used to happen all the time before Jefferies, that is why he gets so much grief from some fans for failing to get wins. Hang on..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Comedian Posted May 8, 2011 Share Posted May 8, 2011 I've seen two, our win in 96 and Scotlands win over Sweden. We have some sort of issue as a club at Ibrox. Some of the chat on here sheds some light on it such as we've always lost at Ibrox so no big deal. With that kind of attitude no wonder we are always swatted aside. All the issues are the same at Parkhead and worse and we've done alot better there. Why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vintage1874 Posted May 8, 2011 Share Posted May 8, 2011 It used to happen all the time before Jefferies, that is why he gets so much grief from some fans for failing to get wins. Hang on..... I rate JJ highly, but his record in glasgow is poor. other than the 1-0 to rangers we've been hammered 3 times against OF this season If we are ever to put in a decent challenge we need to pick up points and odd win on OF's patch. Csaba's teams were boring but he had a decent record in glasgow. It would n't hurt to change tactics now and again, although in saying that if our 2 chances yesterday had gone in it might have been a different story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drylaw Hearts Posted May 8, 2011 Share Posted May 8, 2011 I rate JJ highly, but his record in glasgow is poor. other than the 1-0 to rangers we've been hammered 3 times against OF this season If we are ever to put in a decent challenge we need to pick up points and odd win on OF's patch. Csaba's teams were boring but he had a decent record in glasgow. It would n't hurt to change tactics now and again, although in saying that if our 2 chances yesterday had gone in it might have been a different story. I remember beating Celtic this season also. And.... Most managers/clubs record against the OF is poor - especially since the mid 80's. It's not that difficult to figure out why. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cosanostra Posted May 8, 2011 Share Posted May 8, 2011 I rate JJ highly, but his record in glasgow is poor. other than the 1-0 to rangers we've been hammered 3 times against OF this season If we are ever to put in a decent challenge we need to pick up points and odd win on OF's patch. Csaba's teams were boring but he had a decent record in glasgow. It would n't hurt to change tactics now and again, although in saying that if our 2 chances yesterday had gone in it might have been a different story. The players we had available in the 4-0 games against Rangers and Celtic were not good enough to win either of those games. I also was at the 3-1 Falkirk semi final and numerous Scotland games, most of which we lost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambomb Posted May 8, 2011 Share Posted May 8, 2011 I remember beating Celtic this season also. And.... Most managers/clubs record against the OF is poor - especially since the mid 80's. It's not that difficult to figure out why. It does seem to be above a lot of posters on hear though! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bighusref Posted May 8, 2011 Share Posted May 8, 2011 I rate JJ highly, but his record in glasgow is poor. other than the 1-0 to rangers we've been hammered 3 times against OF this season If we are ever to put in a decent challenge we need to pick up points and odd win on OF's patch. Csaba's teams were boring but he had a decent record in glasgow. It would n't hurt to change tactics now and again, although in saying that if our 2 chances yesterday had gone in it might have been a different story. Serious question, as I don't know the answer. How does his record against the two compare to managers in the last, say, 20 - 30 years? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vintage1874 Posted May 8, 2011 Share Posted May 8, 2011 I remember beating Celtic this season also. Not in glasgow tho. And.... Most managers/clubs record against the OF is poor - especially since the mid 80's. It's not that difficult to figure out why. this is true but 4 wins in 26 years is poor. We has started to make progress in glasgow under Csaba (one of the plus points) from memory a good 2-2 at ibrox, and wins at parkhead and narrow defeats. The players we had available in the 4-0 games against Rangers and Celtic were not good enough to win either of those games. they were both hard to take esp Celtic defeat as i got a lift from a celtic fan that night! hibs, united and ICT have all got decent results at ibrox this season and 2 of these teams are bottom six I also was at the 3-1 Falkirk semi final and numerous Scotland games, most of which we lost. I think JJ is the man to take us forward but to progress we need to take more from glasgow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hearts Heritage Posted May 8, 2011 Share Posted May 8, 2011 Victories at Celtic Park, Ibrox and Hampdem (excluding Queen's Park) since 1946 David McLean 1946-08-21 Wed Celtic 2-3 Hearts L Div One 30000 Wardhaugh;Kelly;Kelly; [Thomas Kiernan;Robert Evans;] link---> David McLean 1947-04-07 Mon Rangers 1-2 Hearts L Div One 12000 Conn;Dewar; [William McInnes Williamson;] link---> David McLean 1948-05-03 Mon Rangers 1-2 Hearts L Div One 10000 Laing;Hamilton; [William Findlay;] link---> Tommy Walker 1951-09-29 Sat Celtic 1-3 Hearts L Div One 48000 Bauld;Wardhaugh;Conn; [bertie Peacock;] link---> Tommy Walker 1953-10-31 Sat Rangers 0-1 Hearts L Div One 30000 Urquhart; link---> Tommy Walker 1954-08-21 Sat Celtic 1-2 Hearts LC 53000 Section Wardhaugh;Bertie Peacock og; [John Higgins;] link---> Tommy Walker 1954-10-23 Sat Motherwell 2-4 Hearts LC 55642 Final Bauld;Bauld;Wardhaugh;Bauld; [William Yates Redpath pen;Alexander Edward Bain;] link---> Tommy Walker 1956-04-21 Sat Celtic 1-3 Hearts SC 133583 Final Crawford;Crawford;Conn; [Mike Haughney;] link---> Tommy Walker 1957-10-26 Sat Rangers 2-3 Hearts L Div One 62000 Wardhaugh;Bauld;Young; [William J Simpson;William J Simpson;] link---> Tommy Walker 1957-12-28 Sat Celtic 0-2 Hearts L Div One 43000 Wardhaugh;Young; link---> Tommy Walker 1958-10-25 Sat Partick Thistle 1-5 Hearts LC 59960 Final Bauld;Murray;Bauld;Murray;Hamilton; [George Smith;] link---> Tommy Walker 1959-09-12 Sat Celtic 3-4 Hearts L Div One 36000 Hamilton;Murray;Young;Blackwood; [bertie Auld;John Divers;Jim Conway;] link---> Tommy Walker 1959-10-24 Sat Third Lanark 1-2 Hearts LC 57994 Final Hamilton;Young; [Joseph Clarke McInnes;] link---> Tommy Walker 1959-10-31 Sat Rangers 0-2 Hearts L Div One 70000 Harold Davis og;Blackwood; link---> Tommy Walker 1961-05-02 Tue Celtic 1-3 Hearts L Div One 7000 Wallace;Davidson;Davidson; [John Divers;] link---> Tommy Walker 1962-10-27 Sat Kilmarnock 0-1 Hearts LC 51280 Final Davidson; link---> Tommy Walker 1963-11-30 Sat Rangers 0-3 Hearts L Div One 24020 White;Wallace;White; link---> Tommy Walker 1965-01-16 Sat Celtic 1-2 Hearts L Div One 19800 Hamilton;Hamilton; [Tommy Gemmell;] link---> John Harvey 1968-04-03 Wed Morton 1-2 Hearts SC 11565 SFR Miller;Jensen pen; [stanley Rankin;] link---> John Harvey 1969-11-08 Sat Celtic 0-2 Hearts L Div One 32683 Jensen;Ford; link---> Bobby Seith 1972-12-02 Sat Rangers 0-1 Hearts L Div One 27350 Ford; link---> Bobby Seith 1973-09-29 Sat Rangers 0-3 Hearts L Div One 34654 Prentice;Busby;Busby; link---> John Hagart 1975-11-08 Sat Rangers 1-2 Hearts L Premier 24304 Gibson;Gibson; [(William) Martin Melville Henderson;] link---> John Hagart 1976-04-14 Wed Dumbarton 0-3 Hearts SC 11273 SFR Walter Ferguson Smith og;Prentice;Busby; link---> Alex MacDonald 1st 1985-10-12 Sat Celtic 0-1 Hearts L Premier 26683 Robertson; link---> Alex MacDonald 1st 1985-12-28 Sat Rangers 0-2 Hearts L Premier 33588 Colquhoun;Colquhoun; link---> Alex MacDonald 1st 1986-04-05 Sat Dundee United 0-1 Hearts SC 30797 SF Colquhoun; link---> Alex MacDonald and Sandy Jardine 1988-04-02 Sat Rangers 1-2 Hearts L Premier 41125 McPherson;Robertson pen; [Jan Bartram;] link---> Joe Jordan 1992-01-04 Sat Celtic 1-2 Hearts L Premier 30417 Crabbe;Millar; [John Angus Paul Collins;] link---> Tommy McLean 1995-04-19 Wed Celtic 0-1 Hearts L Premier 18638 Hagen; link---> Jim Jefferies 1996-01-20 Sat Rangers 0-3 Hearts L Premier 45096 Johnston;Johnston;Johnston; link---> Jim Jefferies 1996-04-06 Sat Aberdeen 1-2 Hearts SC 27785 SF Robertson;Johnston; [Duncan Nicol Shearer;] link---> Jim Jefferies 1998-04-04 Sat Falkirk 1-3 Hearts SC 31587 SF Adam;Adam;McCann; [Kevin McAllister;] link---> Jim Jefferies 1998-05-16 Sat Rangers 1-2 Hearts SC 48946 Final Cameron pen;Adam; [Alistair Murdoch McCoist;] link---> Jim Jefferies 2000-02-05 Sat Celtic 2-3 Hearts L SPL 59896 Cameron;Naysmith;Cameron pen; [Lubomir Moravcik;Mark Anthony Viduka;] link---> Craig Levein 2004-05-12 Wed Rangers 0-1 Hearts L SPL 47467 Hamill; link---> John Robertson 2005-04-02 Sat Celtic 0-2 Hearts L SPL 59562 Miller;Burchill; link---> Valdas Ivanauskas 2006-04-02 Sun Hibernian 0-4 Hearts SC 43180 SF Hartley;Hartley;Jankauskas;Hartley pen; link---> Valdas Ivanauskas 2006-05-13 Sat Gretna 1-1 Hearts SC 51232 Final Skacel; [Ryan McGuffie;] link---> Anatoly Korobochka 2007-04-29 Sun Celtic 1-3 Hearts L SPL 59510 Ivaskevicius;Driver;Pospisil pen; [steven John Pressley;] link---> Anatoly Korobochka 2007-10-31 Wed Celtic 0-2 Hearts LC 21492 QF Velicka;Velicka; link---> Csaba Laszlo 2009-10-28 Wed Celtic 0-1 Hearts LC 19610 QF Stewart M pen; link---> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hearts Heritage Posted May 8, 2011 Share Posted May 8, 2011 Tommy Walker 15 Jim Jefferies 5 Alex MacDonald (combining SJ record) 4 David McLean 3 Alex MacDonald 1st 3 John Hagart 2 Valdas Ivanauskas 2 John Harvey 2 Bobby Seith 2 Anatoly Korobochka 2 Tommy McLean 1 Csaba Laszlo 1 Alex MacDonald and Sandy Jardine 1 Craig Levein 1 John Robertson 1 Joe Jordan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hearts Heritage Posted May 8, 2011 Share Posted May 8, 2011 Celtic and Rangers ONLY Alex MacDonald 3 Celtic 1 Rangers 2 Anatoly Korobochka 2 Celtic 2 Bobby Seith 2 Rangers 2 Craig Levein 1 Rangers 1 Csaba Laszlo 1 Celtic 1 David McLean 3 Celtic 1 Rangers 2 Jim Jefferies 3 Celtic 1 Rangers 2 Joe Jordan 1 Celtic 1 John Hagart 1 Rangers 1 John Harvey 1 Celtic 1 John Robertson 1 Celtic 1 Tommy McLean 1 Celtic 1 Tommy Walker 11 Celtic 7 Rangers 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bighusref Posted May 8, 2011 Share Posted May 8, 2011 Tommy Walker 15 Jim Jefferies 5 Alex MacDonald (combining SJ record) 4 David McLean 3 Alex MacDonald 1st 3 John Hagart 2 Valdas Ivanauskas 2 John Harvey 2 Bobby Seith 2 Anatoly Korobochka 2 Tommy McLean 1 Csaba Laszlo 1 Alex MacDonald and Sandy Jardine 1 Craig Levein 1 John Robertson 1 Joe Jordan 1 So, only Tommy Walker has a better record in Glasgow than Jefferies? Maybe that will shut up some folk then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hearts Heritage Posted May 8, 2011 Share Posted May 8, 2011 1946-47 2 Celtic 1 Rangers 1 1947-48 1 Rangers 1 1951-52 1 Celtic 1 1953-54 1 Rangers 1 1954-55 1 Celtic 1 1955-56 1 Celtic 1 1957-58 2 Celtic 1 Rangers 1 1959-60 2 Celtic 1 Rangers 1 1960-61 1 Celtic 1 1963-64 1 Rangers 1 1964-65 1 Celtic 1 1969-70 1 Celtic 1 1972-73 1 Rangers 1 1973-74 1 Rangers 1 1975-76 1 Rangers 1 1985-86 2 Celtic 1 Rangers 1 1987-88 1 Rangers 1 1991-92 1 Celtic 1 1994-95 1 Celtic 1 1995-96 1 Rangers 1 1997-98 1 Rangers 1 1999-00 1 Celtic 1 2003-04 1 Rangers 1 2004-05 1 Celtic 1 2006-07 1 Celtic 1 2007-08 1 Celtic 1 2009-10 1 Celtic 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hearts Heritage Posted May 8, 2011 Share Posted May 8, 2011 So, only Tommy Walker has a better record in Glasgow than Jefferies? Maybe that will shut up some folk then. Only in terms of absolute wins. I'll work out percentages later. Also we now play them normally 4 times in Glasgow as opposed to 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vintage1874 Posted May 8, 2011 Share Posted May 8, 2011 So, only Tommy Walker has a better record in Glasgow than Jefferies? Maybe that will shut up some folk then. As i've mentioned a couple of times in this thread I'm a big fan of JJ. For a club of our size the stats are not good. I expected a bit more in Jan 2011 as we were close to OF and had just put a good run together other teams below us in the league have managed to get decent results in glasgow this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hearts Heritage Posted May 8, 2011 Share Posted May 8, 2011 On a nominal basis of 2 points for a 1, 1 for a draw including Cup Games manger records in Glasgow are manager_group G W D L Pts% David Pratt 3 1 1 1 50.00% George Burley 1 0 1 0 50.00% Anatoly Korobochka 5 2 0 3 40.00% Committee 25 10 0 15 40.00% Csaba Laszlo 8 1 4 3 37.50% Tommy McLean 4 1 1 2 37.50% Tommy Walker 45 11 9 25 34.44% John McCartney 21 4 6 11 33.33% Frank Moss 11 2 3 6 31.82% Bobby Seith 8 2 1 5 31.25% Peter Fairley 8 1 3 4 31.25% David McLean 23 5 4 14 30.43% Sandy Clark 5 0 3 2 30.00% William Waugh 12 2 3 7 29.17% John Robertson 4 1 0 3 25.00% Alex MacDonald 35 3 8 24 20.00% Jim Jefferies 31 3 6 22 19.35% Joe Jordan 13 1 3 9 19.23% William McCartney 38 3 7 28 17.11% John Harvey 12 1 2 9 16.67% James McGhee 4 0 1 3 12.50% Valdas Ivanauskas 4 0 1 3 12.50% John Hagart 14 1 1 12 10.71% Craig Levein 17 1 1 15 8.82% Bobby Moncur 5 0 0 5 0.00% Caretaker 0 1 0 0 1 0.00% Caretaker 2 1 0 0 1 0.00% Eduard Malofeev 1 0 0 1 0.00% Graham Rix 1 0 0 1 0.00% Peter Houston 1 0 0 1 0.00% Stephen Frail 2 0 0 2 0.00% William Esplin Ormond 5 0 0 5 0.00% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hearts Heritage Posted May 8, 2011 Share Posted May 8, 2011 5 games or more manager_group G W D L Pts% Anatoly Korobochka 5 2 0 3 40.00% Committee 25 10 0 15 40.00% Csaba Laszlo 8 1 4 3 37.50% Tommy Walker 45 11 9 25 34.44% John McCartney 21 4 6 11 33.33% Frank Moss 11 2 3 6 31.82% Bobby Seith 8 2 1 5 31.25% Peter Fairley 8 1 3 4 31.25% David McLean 23 5 4 14 30.43% Sandy Clark 5 0 3 2 30.00% William Waugh 12 2 3 7 29.17% Alex MacDonald 35 3 8 24 20.00% Jim Jefferies 31 3 6 22 19.35% Joe Jordan 13 1 3 9 19.23% William McCartney 38 3 7 28 17.11% John Harvey 12 1 2 9 16.67% John Hagart 14 1 1 12 10.71% Craig Levein 17 1 1 15 8.82% Bobby Moncur 5 0 0 5 0.00% William Esplin Ormond 5 0 0 5 0.00% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hearts Heritage Posted May 8, 2011 Share Posted May 8, 2011 Home Record manager_group G W D L Pts% George Burley 1 1 0 0 100.00% Tommy McLean 5 3 2 0 80.00% Anatoly Korobochka 2 1 1 0 75.00% Valdas Ivanauskas 3 2 0 1 66.67% David Pratt 4 2 1 1 62.50% William Esplin Ormond 4 2 1 1 62.50% Tommy Walker 45 21 10 14 57.78% William Waugh 10 4 3 3 55.00% Csaba Laszlo 5 2 1 2 50.00% David McLean 20 8 3 9 47.50% Alex MacDonald 34 11 10 13 47.06% Committee 22 7 6 9 45.45% Frank Moss 7 2 2 3 42.86% William McCartney 35 10 10 15 42.86% Peter Fairley 5 1 2 2 40.00% Bobby Moncur 4 1 1 2 37.50% John McCartney 20 6 3 11 37.50% Sandy Clark 4 1 1 2 37.50% Joe Jordan 13 4 1 8 34.62% Jim Jefferies 28 8 2 18 32.14% Bobby Seith 8 2 1 5 31.25% John Hagart 11 2 2 7 27.27% Graham Rix 2 0 1 1 25.00% John Harvey 11 1 3 7 22.73% Craig Levein 17 1 4 12 17.65% James McGhee 3 0 1 2 16.67% Eduard Malofeev 1 0 0 1 0.00% John Robertson 2 0 0 2 0.00% Stephen Frail 1 0 0 1 0.00% Steven Pressley and John McGlynn 1 0 0 1 0.00% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hearts Heritage Posted May 8, 2011 Share Posted May 8, 2011 Home Record 5 or more games manager_group G W D L Pts% Tommy McLean 5 3 2 0 80.00% Tommy Walker 45 21 10 14 57.78% William Waugh 10 4 3 3 55.00% Csaba Laszlo 5 2 1 2 50.00% David McLean 20 8 3 9 47.50% Alex MacDonald 34 11 10 13 47.06% Committee 22 7 6 9 45.45% Frank Moss 7 2 2 3 42.86% William McCartney 35 10 10 15 42.86% Peter Fairley 5 1 2 2 40.00% John McCartney 20 6 3 11 37.50% Joe Jordan 13 4 1 8 34.62% Jim Jefferies 28 8 2 18 32.14% Bobby Seith 8 2 1 5 31.25% John Hagart 11 2 2 7 27.27% John Harvey 11 1 3 7 22.73% Craig Levein 17 1 4 12 17.65% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bighusref Posted May 8, 2011 Share Posted May 8, 2011 For those down crying Jefferies away efforts against the dirty two, his home record is staggering. Played 28, won 8 drawn 2 lost 18. Not a stat I expected tbh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hearts Heritage Posted May 8, 2011 Share Posted May 8, 2011 All Competitive matches vs OF George Burley 2 1 1 0 75.00% Tommy McLean 9 4 3 2 61.11% David Pratt 7 3 2 2 57.14% Anatoly Korobochka 7 3 1 3 50.00% Tommy Walker 90 32 19 39 46.11% Committee 47 17 6 24 42.55% Csaba Laszlo 13 3 5 5 42.31% William Waugh 22 6 6 10 40.91% David McLean 43 13 7 23 38.37% Frank Moss 18 4 5 9 36.11% Valdas Ivanauskas 7 2 1 4 35.71% John McCartney 41 10 9 22 35.37% Peter Fairley 13 2 5 6 34.62% Alex MacDonald 69 14 18 37 33.33% Sandy Clark 9 1 4 4 33.33% Bobby Seith 16 4 2 10 31.25% William McCartney 73 13 17 43 29.45% William Esplin Ormond 9 2 1 6 27.78% Joe Jordan 26 5 4 17 26.92% Jim Jefferies 59 11 8 40 25.42% John Harvey 23 2 5 16 19.57% John Hagart 25 3 3 19 18.00% Bobby Moncur 9 1 1 7 16.67% Graham Rix 3 0 1 2 16.67% John Robertson 6 1 0 5 16.67% James McGhee 7 0 2 5 14.29% Craig Levein 34 2 5 27 13.24% Caretaker 0 1 0 0 1 0.00% Caretaker 2 1 0 0 1 0.00% Eduard Malofeev 2 0 0 2 0.00% Peter Houston 1 0 0 1 0.00% Stephen Frail 3 0 0 3 0.00% Steven Pressley and John McGlynn 1 0 0 1 0.00% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hearts Heritage Posted May 8, 2011 Share Posted May 8, 2011 6 or more games manager_group G W D L Pts% Tommy McLean 9 4 3 2 61.11% David Pratt 7 3 2 2 57.14% Anatoly Korobochka 7 3 1 3 50.00% Tommy Walker 90 32 19 39 46.11% Committee 47 17 6 24 42.55% Csaba Laszlo 13 3 5 5 42.31% William Waugh 22 6 6 10 40.91% David McLean 43 13 7 23 38.37% Frank Moss 18 4 5 9 36.11% Valdas Ivanauskas 7 2 1 4 35.71% John McCartney 41 10 9 22 35.37% Peter Fairley 13 2 5 6 34.62% Alex MacDonald 69 14 18 37 33.33% Sandy Clark 9 1 4 4 33.33% Bobby Seith 16 4 2 10 31.25% William McCartney 73 13 17 43 29.45% William Esplin Ormond 9 2 1 6 27.78% Joe Jordan 26 5 4 17 26.92% Jim Jefferies 59 11 8 40 25.42% John Harvey 23 2 5 16 19.57% John Hagart 25 3 3 19 18.00% Bobby Moncur 9 1 1 7 16.67% John Robertson 6 1 0 5 16.67% James McGhee 7 0 2 5 14.29% Craig Levein 34 2 5 27 13.24% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hearts Heritage Posted May 8, 2011 Share Posted May 8, 2011 For those down crying Jefferies away efforts against the dirty two, his home record is staggering. Played 28, won 8 drawn 2 lost 18. Not a stat I expected tbh. The financial 'gap' between the OF and the rest has been ever increasing over the last 25 years. Since JJ was manager first there isn't much difference No JJ 79 12 14 53 24.05% JJ 59 11 8 40 25.42% Though The combined record of Anatoly Korobochka Valdas Ivanauskas Csaba Laszlo 27 8 7 12 42.59% is much better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bighusref Posted May 8, 2011 Share Posted May 8, 2011 The financial 'gap' between the OF and the rest has been ever increasing over the last 25 years. Since JJ was manager first there isn't much difference No JJ 79 12 14 53 24.05% JJ 59 11 8 40 25.42% Though The combined record of Anatoly Korobochka Valdas Ivanauskas Csaba Laszlo 27 8 7 12 42.59% is much better I understand that, it's just mental reading it like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hearts Heritage Posted May 8, 2011 Share Posted May 8, 2011 I understand that, it's just mental reading it like that. Start the campaign to bring back Tommy McLean NOW! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambomb Posted May 8, 2011 Share Posted May 8, 2011 Start the campaign to bring back Tommy McLean NOW! I think the 3 to compare are JJ, Levein and Alex McDonald. (maybe add Jordan) Doesn't seem that JJ has done that bad really? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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