scott_jambo Posted May 2, 2011 Share Posted May 2, 2011 I am assuming he is not doing anything of note at St. johnstone. Anyone confirm? Just finishing my lemon chicken Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riddley Walker Posted May 2, 2011 Share Posted May 2, 2011 Thinks he's been on the bench most of the time unfortunately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Johnson Posted May 2, 2011 Share Posted May 2, 2011 Noticed that he didn't make the squad for Easter Road on Saturday and seems to have been an unused sub a few times as well. Shame for him, think he was unlucky that he joined just as the guy May scored a couple of goals and just mustn't have been able to force his way into the side. With retrospect he would have been better off staying here for the amount of game time he's got. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beats Posted May 2, 2011 Share Posted May 2, 2011 I don't think he will make it with us I'm afraid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boomstick Posted May 2, 2011 Share Posted May 2, 2011 I don't think he will make it with us I'm afraid. He's one of the best youngsters we have. A loan spell where he gets game time would be brilliant for him. We'll sell Driver or Temps at some point, he'll get his shot and I'm sure I read that JJ rated him as one of the most talented footballers he's worked with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wright1989 Posted May 2, 2011 Share Posted May 2, 2011 Novi will be a HUGE player for us. Wait and see. His shooting accuracy is top notch. Once he has a full season of playing games and his composure kicks in he'll score 10+ a season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBigO Posted May 2, 2011 Share Posted May 2, 2011 Sitting by the bay window Scott?? Don't think McInnes was too impressed. He's a funny sort of laddie apprently: very difficult to motivate and comes over as not giving a shit. I don't think JJ and BB think that to be the case, but they're trying all they can to bring him out of himself. Apparently unbelievable at training - best we've got, noone can touch him, but they just can't get that bit of aggression and winning mentality you need into him. Has to be remembered he's 19 and been away from home since 16 so hopefully it'll come. Thing is he has the talent to change a game in the blink of a eye. Just the first touch on the laddie. He's a bit like me but not as good looking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drylaw Hearts Posted May 2, 2011 Share Posted May 2, 2011 I don't think he will make it with us I'm afraid. This. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Merse Posted May 2, 2011 Share Posted May 2, 2011 I don't think he will make it with us I'm afraid. I'm not convinced he will either. I'd say it's an outside chance that he will TBH. Not being able to force his way into a St Johnstone team which has been devoid of creativity and crying out for someone to create chances and he's barely had a look in isn't a promising sign. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Stinkfinger Posted May 2, 2011 Share Posted May 2, 2011 Seriously, what was the Lemon Chicken like ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Napier Posted May 2, 2011 Share Posted May 2, 2011 Living in Perth I obviously know a lot of Saints fans. Whenever i'ved asked about Novikovas they have said they've not been impressed. I don't think he has played much though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beats Posted May 2, 2011 Share Posted May 2, 2011 He's one of the best youngsters we have. A loan spell where he gets game time would be brilliant for him. We'll sell Driver or Temps at some point, he'll get his shot and I'm sure I read that JJ rated him as one of the most talented footballers he's worked with. Apart from a cross for Kyle to score at New Year I can't recall him doing anything of note Hope I'm wrong but I doubt I am. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott herbertson Posted May 2, 2011 Share Posted May 2, 2011 Apart from a cross for Kyle to score at New Year I can't recall him doing anything of note Hope I'm wrong but I doubt I am. Aberdeen game? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Merse Posted May 2, 2011 Share Posted May 2, 2011 Apart from a cross for Kyle to score at New Year I can't recall him doing anything of note Hope I'm wrong but I doubt I am. He scored a good, albeit deflected goal against the Sheep too. I certainly wouldn't write him off but at the moment I'm not all that hopeful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beats Posted May 2, 2011 Share Posted May 2, 2011 Aberdeen game? Forgot about that. Still not convinced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boomstick Posted May 2, 2011 Share Posted May 2, 2011 Scored against Elgin too. Give him time. He needs games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
super_vlad Posted May 2, 2011 Share Posted May 2, 2011 He's one of the best youngsters we have. A loan spell where he gets game time would be brilliant for him. We'll sell Driver or Temps at some point, he'll get his shot and I'm sure I read that JJ rated him as one of the most talented footballers he's worked with. i agree with you, maybe the type of player who needs a arm around him i think. His goal against aberdeen was classed! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Spacey Posted May 2, 2011 Share Posted May 2, 2011 He definatly has the ability to make it. Whether he has it mentally is yet to be seen. He needs games, I'm 65% sure he will make it. Just needs confidence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sten Guns Posted May 2, 2011 Share Posted May 2, 2011 I don't think he will make it with us I'm afraid. Some more of this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Merse Posted May 2, 2011 Share Posted May 2, 2011 He definatly has the ability to make it. Whether he has it mentally is yet to be seen. He needs games, I'm 65% sure he will make it. Just needs confidence. 65%? I'm only about 52.4% personally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sten Guns Posted May 2, 2011 Share Posted May 2, 2011 65%? I'm only about 52.4% personally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hearts of Vladland Posted May 2, 2011 Share Posted May 2, 2011 I remember people on Kickback said Lee Wallace would never make it at Hearts, this is all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
upthehill Posted May 2, 2011 Share Posted May 2, 2011 He got an injury just as he moved to Perth, it held him back from being match fit. A bit like Driver just now, clearly a talented boy, but short of match fitness. Novi can make it. Scored a good goal away at Gillingham in preseason aswell. I like him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jambojim1986 Posted May 2, 2011 Share Posted May 2, 2011 He is gonna be a star. Must be hard for the laddie as he is still young. Bags of talent though. A season in the 1st division on loan would help him come on and toughen him up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambof3tornado Posted May 2, 2011 Share Posted May 2, 2011 He is gonna be a star. Must be hard for the laddie as he is still young. Bags of talent though. A season in the 1st division on loan would help him come on and toughen him up. Or put him off staying in scotland. Let him stay with the 1st team and fight for a start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigAlim Posted May 2, 2011 Share Posted May 2, 2011 after the blackburn pre-season game i over heard a group of blackburn fans gushing over him saying they would love a player like that. he picked us over Benfica too. IMO he has the potential to be our best winger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambof3tornado Posted May 2, 2011 Share Posted May 2, 2011 after the blackburn pre-season game i over heard a group of blackburn fans gushing over him saying they would love a player like that. he picked us over Benfica too. IMO he has the potential to be our best winger Technically the most gifted player for a while. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Merse Posted May 2, 2011 Share Posted May 2, 2011 after the blackburn pre-season game i over heard a group of blackburn fans gushing over him saying they would love a player like that. he picked us over Benfica too. IMO he has the potential to be our best winger Technically the most gifted player for a while. Based on what exactly? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamboinglasgow Posted May 2, 2011 Share Posted May 2, 2011 after the blackburn pre-season game i over heard a group of blackburn fans gushing over him saying they would love a player like that. he picked us over Benfica too. IMO he has the potential to be our best winger I remember the Blackburn Rovers then assistant manager (now manager) Kean raving about Novikovas. As IBH says JJ and BB are just trying to get Novikovas to unleash his potential by curing his shyness and hunger, if they can get that sorted then he will be some player. I think it is worth persisting with him, as if they succeed he will be some player (based on what I have seen of him in Under 19 matches and reserves.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigAlim Posted May 2, 2011 Share Posted May 2, 2011 Based on what exactly? the blackburn game and two sub appearances against hibs and aberdeen have shown that he can play some great stuff when he is up for it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hearts of Vladland Posted May 2, 2011 Share Posted May 2, 2011 Add the U21 game against England to his good games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flankengott Posted May 2, 2011 Share Posted May 2, 2011 He did have a very good game in the pre-season match against Blackburn. I also saw him on TV for Lithuania U21s against England where he looked very impressive (might have been in central midfield that night.). He's definitely a talented footballer but just might not suit Scottish football. By that I mean that players here are not usually looking for the precise balls into feet that he probably wants to play, and he might not be getting balls played to him where he is confident of accepting the ball. I remember watching Vincent Guerin playing for Hearts, making a pass and then looking for the return ball on the edge of the box but never getting the return pass. He put himself in good positions and was confident of taking the pass in a tight space, but the other players seemed not to believe it was possible to create anything from the position he was in, and preferred the hopeful ball forward to a central defender with the chance of a scuffle for the second ball. I think Novikovas may be similar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gizmo Posted May 2, 2011 Share Posted May 2, 2011 Even if his loan deal with St Johnstone isn't productive, it may still a) have opened his eyes up to a wider world and make him damn pleased to be back at Tynie. He is a exceptionally talented footballer from what I've seen of him, so if JJ & BB look to nurture him gradually then I have faith in their ability to bring him out of his shell. I certainly hope so, he's a real prospect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Bateman Posted May 2, 2011 Share Posted May 2, 2011 I, personally, love writing-off 19 year olds because I'm a middle aged nobody with very little satisfaction and meaning left in my otherwise pointless life, and such seething brings me a glowing sense of catharsis and self-worth. :paterson: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ultraviolet Catastrophe Posted May 2, 2011 Share Posted May 2, 2011 I, personally, love writing-off 19 year olds because I'm a middle aged nobody with very little satisfaction and meaning left in my otherwise pointless life, and such seething brings me a glowing sense of catharsis and self-worth. :paterson: :rofl: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deko 94 Posted May 2, 2011 Share Posted May 2, 2011 Forgot about that. Still not convinced. As stubborn as a mule Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott_jambo Posted May 3, 2011 Author Share Posted May 3, 2011 I, personally, love writing-off 19 year olds because I'm a middle aged nobody with very little satisfaction and meaning left in my otherwise pointless life, and such seething brings me a glowing sense of catharsis and self-worth. :paterson: He is an incredibly talented youngster but not all talented youngsters "make it". We will see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steven100 Posted May 3, 2011 Share Posted May 3, 2011 Novi is good at attacking but his defensive skills are not hot. Next season hopefully he'll do well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambof3tornado Posted May 3, 2011 Share Posted May 3, 2011 Based on what exactly? Watching the lad play and talking about him with a few Hearts coaches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
innerjambo Posted May 3, 2011 Share Posted May 3, 2011 He is clearly talented with plenty of skill, but far too lightweight for the spl. He is a similar build to Temps, but where as I can see temps making progress, bulking up, and not being shoved of the ball so easily, I cant see the same thing happening with Novikovas. I think the spl is just a bit too rough and ready for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambof3tornado Posted May 3, 2011 Share Posted May 3, 2011 Novi is good at attacking but his defensive skills are not hot. Next season hopefully he'll do well. Bit like our hero and potential matchwinner Rudi then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Treasurer Posted May 3, 2011 Share Posted May 3, 2011 This. You're at least consistent I'll give you that DH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBigO Posted May 3, 2011 Share Posted May 3, 2011 He is clearly talented with plenty of skill, but far too lightweight for the spl. He is a similar build to Temps, but where as I can see temps making progress, bulking up, and not being shoved of the ball so easily, I cant see the same thing happening with Novikovas. I think the spl is just a bit too rough and ready for him. He's 3 years younger than Temps!!! Seems to be forgotten that Temps is only a year younger than Driver and something like 5 or 6 months younger than Eggy. All young lads, but Temps gets talked about like he's a kid. Not a go at Temps at all, infact not his fault he didn't break into the team earlier by all accounts - Csaba shoulda been picking him a year before he broke through. He simply can't be compared to Arvy in terms of "readiness" or physciality. Plenty slight and wee players make it in Scotland. Talent is what he has in spades and it'll show if he attaches the right attitude to it. I like him a lot from what i've seen (and heard). He isn't just tanner baw, he has end product- a touch of vision and the technique to carry it out (see his cross for big Kev v Hibs). He's still learning all the facets required but could be a massive player for us in a year or two, not to mention make the club millions. As I've discussed on another thread though - the progression of youth players can be a lottery, so you never know. We can only give the laddie the best chance we can and then its up to him I suppose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clerry Jambo Posted May 3, 2011 Share Posted May 3, 2011 He's 3 years younger than Temps!!! Seems to be forgotten that Temps is only a year younger than Driver and something like 5 or 6 months younger than Eggy. All young lads, but Temps gets talked about like he's a kid. Not a go at Temps at all, infact not his fault he didn't break into the team earlier by all accounts - Csaba shoulda been picking him a year before he broke through. He simply can't be compared to Arvy in terms of "readiness" or physciality. Plenty slight and wee players make it in Scotland. Talent is what he has in spades and it'll show if he attaches the right attitude to it. I like him a lot from what i've seen (and heard). He isn't just tanner baw, he has end product- a touch of vision and the technique to carry it out (see his cross for big Kev v Hibs). He's still learning all the facets required but could be a massive player for us in a year or two, not to mention make the club millions. As I've discussed on another thread though - the progression of youth players can be a lottery, so you never know. We can only give the laddie the best chance we can and then its up to him I suppose. I agree bud With possibly Suso away in the summer and Driver struggling at the moment to find fitness, wee Novi could find more opportunities next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grumpy rebus Posted May 3, 2011 Share Posted May 3, 2011 Only problem he's had in Perth is that their pitch is like a ploughed field. Not ideal for his style of play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itsnomarooned Posted May 3, 2011 Share Posted May 3, 2011 Obviously I don't know why he doesn't get much of a game at St J but I see little point in loaning him to anyone unless he's, almost, guaranteed a start - which to my mind points towards a lower league team. If he's potentially a slightly bigger fish in terms of talent then wouldn't this go a long way to instilling a level of confidence he seems to have lacked when playing for us? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambof3tornado Posted May 3, 2011 Share Posted May 3, 2011 Obviously I don't know why he doesn't get much of a game at St J but I see little point in loaning him to anyone unless he's, almost, guaranteed a start - which to my mind points towards a lower league team. If he's potentially a slightly bigger fish in terms of talent then wouldn't this go a long way to instilling a level of confidence he seems to have lacked when playing for us? Not sure that being kicked up and down the park in the 1st or 2nd division would benefit Ardy. Let him stay and fight for a place! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itsnomarooned Posted May 3, 2011 Share Posted May 3, 2011 Not sure that being kicked up and down the park in the 1st or 2nd division would benefit Ardy. Let him stay and fight for a place! I'm not so sure it would necessarily do him any harm to be honest. It's a bit of a misnomer (I think) to suggest that this would somehow spoil an otherwise creative player. Let's face it, this is a tough physical game and players need to learn how to handle it. I rarely watch Spanish football but when I do Messi appears to get the sh1t kicked out of him at every opportunity, likewise with, for example, the Brazilian league - it appears to be very very tough but it doesn't stop them producing very skillful players. My point was that if we need to loan a player to give them game time then we need to engineer a loan to a club who are, all things being equal, going to play him on a regular basis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Getintaethem Posted May 3, 2011 Share Posted May 3, 2011 I, personally, love writing-off 19 year olds because I'm a middle aged nobody with very little satisfaction and meaning left in my otherwise pointless life, and such seething brings me a glowing sense of catharsis and self-worth. :paterson: I like this post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamdub Posted May 3, 2011 Share Posted May 3, 2011 Well after watching most of the dross and allegedly the best that the 'mad one' has sent over from Lithuania, I personally think this guy has 'REAL talent' whether the coaching staff we have, or Scotland is the right place for him ? The question is, can we take him forward, well that is another question. ? I would like to think so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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