hearts_crazy Posted April 30, 2011 Share Posted April 30, 2011 MacDonald - 6 - Beaten by two wonder strikes, decent game otherwise although frankly had not a lot to do Thompson - 5 - bit of an off day I thought Zaliukas - 6 - decent game, no daft stuff or mazy runs Jonsson - 6 - Did OK Palazuelos - 6 - Didn't do much wrong Black - 5 - looked out of sorts Temps - 6 - infuriating at times with stuff he did bad, amazing at others with stuff he did well, bit of a mixed bag Stevenson - 7 - I thought he stood out from all others, dogged determined performance and took goal well, my MOM Skacel - 6 - Gets extra point for being in right place at right time for goal but he needs to do more Mrowiec - 6 - OK Elliott - 6 - worked hard) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Groot Posted April 30, 2011 Share Posted April 30, 2011 I'm a big Zal fan but 'no daft stuff' apart from gifting the ball away for the first? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jambos are go! Posted April 30, 2011 Share Posted April 30, 2011 MacDonald - 6 - Beaten by two wonder strikes, decent game otherwise although frankly had not a lot to do Thompson - 5 - bit of an off day I thought Zaliukas - 6 - decent game, no daft stuff or mazy runs Jonsson - 6 - Did OK Palazuelos - 6 - Didn't do much wrong Black - 5 - looked out of sorts Temps - 6 - infuriating at times with stuff he did bad, amazing at others with stuff he did well, bit of a mixed bag Stevenson - 7 - I thought he stood out from all others, dogged determined performance and took goal well, my MOM Skacel - 6 - Gets extra point for being in right place at right time for goal but he needs to do more Mrowiec - 6 - OK Elliott - 6 - worked hard) Agree with most of that. We need a right back and have done for 2 years. Stevenson does not last 90 minutes but has improved. We seem unable to smother the midfield and therefore teams can run at us ALA Motherwell and Kilmarnock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broxburn_Jambo Posted April 30, 2011 Share Posted April 30, 2011 I thought Elliott was pretty poor- don't think we get enough from him sometimes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hearts_crazy Posted April 30, 2011 Author Share Posted April 30, 2011 I'm a big Zal fan but 'no daft stuff' apart from gifting the ball away for the first? Did he? Couldn't see clearly who was at fault, great strike mind Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drylaw Hearts Posted April 30, 2011 Share Posted April 30, 2011 Mrowiec 6 OK ????????????? He was nothing short of horrific. We've made a big mistake giving that lump a 3 year deal imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wotta Lad Posted April 30, 2011 Share Posted April 30, 2011 Macdonald -6!? are you high!? One of his best games for us today... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Groot Posted April 30, 2011 Share Posted April 30, 2011 Did he? Couldn't see clearly who was at fault, great strike mind Had the ball at his feet in the box instead of clearing it he took an extra touch got muscled off the balled got played out the box and then laid off for Fowler Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hearts_crazy Posted April 30, 2011 Author Share Posted April 30, 2011 Macdonald -6!? are you high!? One of his best games for us today... He only had 2 saves to make (apart from the goals). Didn't have enough to do to warrant a huge score TBH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benny Posted April 30, 2011 Share Posted April 30, 2011 Thought that Ruben was the only one of the back 4 to get pass marks.Zal was okay until that mistake for the goal.Thomson and Jonsson just cannot defend.Stevenson pick of the forwards but Macdonald Motm by miles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guildford_Jambo Posted April 30, 2011 Share Posted April 30, 2011 Agree with most of that. We need a right back and have done for 2 years. Stevenson does not last 90 minutes but has improved. We seem unable to smother the midfield and therefore teams can run at us ALA Motherwell and Kilmarnock. Bring Robbie back! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambof3tornado Posted April 30, 2011 Share Posted April 30, 2011 Was Ruben not caught too high up the park for their equaliser?? When he went charging up to cut out a pass and then had the ball played round him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cupar Jambo Posted April 30, 2011 Share Posted April 30, 2011 Thought that Ruben was the only one of the back 4 to get pass marks.Zal was okay until that mistake for the goal.Thomson and Jonsson just cannot defend.Stevenson pick of the forwards but Macdonald Motm by miles. He had a decision to make made an ar** of it and cost us the second goal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wright1989 Posted April 30, 2011 Share Posted April 30, 2011 Bring Robbie back! You argue against people swearing at games and then you suggest we bring back Robbie Neilson. I'm sure your just here to piss me off. It's not working. :) :) :) :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coco Posted April 30, 2011 Share Posted April 30, 2011 Macdonald - 7 - couple of very good saves Thomson - 5 - good ball for the second goal but a weak defender Jonsson - 5 - filling in again Zaliukas - 5 - average performance Palazuelos - 5 - as per Zaliukas Black - 3 - his worst game for Hearts Mrowiec - 2 - awful performance - never anywhere near Eremenko Templeton - 5 - poor on the right, good on the left for a spell - then subbed when at his best in the game Skacel - 5 - another well taken goal, good reactions - huge goalscoring year now Elliott - 4 - reputation way beyond what he actually delivers - can't seem to score against the better teams Stevenson - 8 - another huge performance from our form player of the moment Driver - 1 - starting to wonder if is physical or mental - he will not go above a jog McGowan - 2 - looked a bit lost out on the wing Glen - 1 - little time, but lost the ball when he did get it JJ trying to keep to a 15 or so man squad for most of the games is now hurting us. Once again was surprised not to see Scott Robinson - would start him up front with Stevenson in the next game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigAlim Posted May 1, 2011 Share Posted May 1, 2011 MacDonald-7 Thomson-6 Zaliukas-5 Jonsson-6 Palazuelos-5 Black-4 Mrowiec-1 Templeton-6 Skacel-6 Elliott-7 Stevenson-8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peebles jambo Posted May 1, 2011 Share Posted May 1, 2011 MacDonald - 6 - Beaten by two wonder strikes, decent game otherwise although frankly had not a lot to do Thompson - 5 - bit of an off day I thought Zaliukas - 6 - decent game, no daft stuff or mazy runs Jonsson - 6 - Did OK Palazuelos - 6 - Didn't do much wrong Black - 5 - looked out of sorts Temps - 6 - infuriating at times with stuff he did bad, amazing at others with stuff he did well, bit of a mixed bag Stevenson - 7 - I thought he stood out from all others, dogged determined performance and took goal well, my MOM Skacel - 6 - Gets extra point for being in right place at right time for goal but he needs to do more Mrowiec - 6 - OK Elliott - 6 - worked hard) go along with most of this apart from ruben, i thought (as at inverness) he was too slow and cost us our 2nd goal yesterday, there has to be a better left back in the youths, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flimsy Posted May 1, 2011 Share Posted May 1, 2011 Macdonald - 7 - couple of very good saves Thomson - 5 - good ball for the second goal but a weak defender Jonsson - 5 - filling in again Zaliukas - 5 - average performance Palazuelos - 5 - as per Zaliukas Black - 3 - his worst game for Hearts Mrowiec - 2 - awful performance - never anywhere near Eremenko Templeton - 5 - poor on the right, good on the left for a spell - then subbed when at his best in the game Skacel - 5 - another well taken goal, good reactions - huge goalscoring year now Elliott - 4 - reputation way beyond what he actually delivers - can't seem to score against the better teams Stevenson - 8 - another huge performance from our form player of the moment Driver - 1 - starting to wonder if is physical or mental - he will not go above a jog McGowan - 2 - looked a bit lost out on the wing Glen - 1 - little time, but lost the ball when he did get it JJ trying to keep to a 15 or so man squad for most of the games is now hurting us. Once again was surprised not to see Scott Robinson - would start him up front with Stevenson in the next game. I agree on the predictability of team selection during this uninspiring run of results. Quite frankly, the way Hearts are playing just now I would be surprised if we picked up any points in our remaining three matches. Why not play McGowan and Robinson in central midfield and give them a chance to shine? What have we got to lose? In particular, I don't want to see Driver or Glen again this season, for various reasons they have contributed zero between them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamboAberdeen Posted May 1, 2011 Share Posted May 1, 2011 I agree on the predictability of team selection during this uninspiring run of results. Quite frankly, the way Hearts are playing just now I would be surprised if we picked up any points in our remaining three matches. Why not play McGowan and Robinson in central midfield and give them a chance to shine? What have we got to lose? In particular, I don't want to see Driver or Glen again this season, for various reasons they have contributed zero between them. It looks like we won't see Driver again this season, as he set for op along with Suso. My link I guess this affected him yesterday, physically and mentally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SanliHearts Posted May 1, 2011 Share Posted May 1, 2011 I thought Elliott was pretty poor- don't think we get enough from him sometimes. are you joking? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broxburn_Jambo Posted May 1, 2011 Share Posted May 1, 2011 are you joking? No, I thought he did nothing yesterday and doesn't contribute enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coco Posted May 1, 2011 Share Posted May 1, 2011 No, I thought he did nothing yesterday and doesn't contribute enough. He works very hard and puts in a power of running. He probably has suffered more than most from the absence of Kyle but I agree he does not offer much beyond his effort. I think all his goals have been against the sides 6 and below in the league ... and that might be a measure of his quality which is disappointing given he had a big club and international background. His goalscoring to starts ratio is not bad though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bighusref Posted May 1, 2011 Share Posted May 1, 2011 He works very hard and puts in a power of running. He probably has suffered more than most from the absence of Kyle but I agree he does not offer much beyond his effort. I think all his goals have been against the sides 6 and below in the league ... and that might be a measure of his quality which is disappointing given he had a big club and international background. His goalscoring to starts ratio is not bad though. A criticism of Skacel in another recent thread. For the avoidance of doubt, can I confirm that we do need to score against the bottom six teams? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Gosling Posted May 1, 2011 Share Posted May 1, 2011 He works very hard and puts in a power of running. He probably has suffered more than most from the absence of Kyle but I agree he does not offer much beyond his effort. I think all his goals have been against the sides 6 and below in the league ... and that might be a measure of his quality which is disappointing given he had a big club and international background. His goalscoring to starts ratio is not bad though. What about his 2 goals away to Kilmarnock in January? Were Killie not 4th at the time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coco Posted May 1, 2011 Share Posted May 1, 2011 What about his 2 goals away to Kilmarnock in January? Were Killie not 4th at the time? The league is a marathon and not a sprint Yes to the other above question - it is great that the goals went in against Hamilton, Killie, Inverness etc. But it is perhaps a sign that he struggles against better defenders. Seems that he has a big reputation on here and for me is at the moment an overrated player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cupar Jambo Posted May 1, 2011 Share Posted May 1, 2011 The league is a marathon and not a sprint Yes to the other above question - it is great that the goals went in against Hamilton, Killie, Inverness etc. But it is perhaps a sign that he struggles against better defenders. Seems that he has a big reputation on here and for me is at the moment an overrated player. Eliott would be my outfield POY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cupar Jambo Posted May 1, 2011 Share Posted May 1, 2011 MacDonald-7 Thomson-6 Zaliukas-5 Jonsson-6 Palazuelos-5 Black-6 Mrowiec-2 Templeton-6 Skacel-5 Elliott-7 Stevenson-8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SanliHearts Posted May 1, 2011 Share Posted May 1, 2011 No, I thought he did nothing yesterday and doesn't contribute enough. Just saw highlights and you're probably right about yesterday, but in recent games he's been the hardest working player on the park. Got a good feeling about him, reckon he could score a good few goals next season with a consistent strike partner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bighusref Posted May 1, 2011 Share Posted May 1, 2011 Yes to the other above question - it is great that the goals went in against Hamilton, Killie, Inverness etc. But it is perhaps a sign that he struggles against better defenders. Seems that he has a big reputation on here and for me is at the moment an overrated player. I'm glad. I would hate to think celebrating all those goals we have scored against the bottom seven clubs were worthless. Funnily enough, I kinda share your concern about him, it is ridiculous to criticise him for scoring against lesser opposition though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coco Posted May 1, 2011 Share Posted May 1, 2011 I'm glad. I would hate to think celebrating all those goals we have scored against the bottom seven clubs were worthless. Funnily enough, I kinda share your concern about him, it is ridiculous to criticise him for scoring against lesser opposition though. The only criticism is for him not scoring against the better teams Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamboAl Posted May 1, 2011 Share Posted May 1, 2011 No, I thought he did nothing yesterday and doesn't contribute enough. IMO Elliott is the most over-rated player in our squad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudi Posted May 1, 2011 Share Posted May 1, 2011 IMO Elliott is the most over-rated player in our squad. Not a chance of it,the guy is virtually having to play the lone striker roll(I know Stevenson is also up front but he's not a striker) and make space,passes and crosses for himself to score,unfortunately I now think that Eggert now has that tag of most over rated,his early career form has stalled and just might have taken a backward step. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott_jambo Posted May 1, 2011 Share Posted May 1, 2011 Not a chance of it,the guy is virtually having to play the lone striker roll(I know Stevenson is also up front but he's not a striker) and make space,passes and crosses for himself to score,unfortunately I now think that Eggert now has that tag of most over rated,his early career form has stalled and just might have taken a backward step. Lots of flaws in your post there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudi Posted May 1, 2011 Share Posted May 1, 2011 Lots of flaws in your post there. Hows that then,thats how I see it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Libertonian_II Posted May 1, 2011 Share Posted May 1, 2011 IMO Elliott is the most over-rated player in our squad. Not the most over-rated, that award goes to Mroviec. There's no doubting Elliot's workrate but IMO he's too lightweight and easily knocked off the ball Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamboAl Posted May 1, 2011 Share Posted May 1, 2011 Not a chance of it,the guy is virtually having to play the lone striker roll(I know Stevenson is also up front but he's not a striker) and make space,passes and crosses for himself to score,unfortunately I now think that Eggert now has that tag of most over rated,his early career form has stalled and just might have taken a backward step. i have this problem with my Jambo mate who thinks he is the bees knees but give up when he cannot control simple balls and keep moves going. It is true that Stevo is not a striker but his attitude, skill and workrate compensate for a lot of his deficiences in the role he is asked to play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudi Posted May 1, 2011 Share Posted May 1, 2011 i have this problem with my Jambo mate who thinks he is the bees knees but give up when he cannot control simple balls and keep moves going. It is true that Stevo is not a striker but his attitude, skill and workrate compensate for a lot of his deficiences in the role he is asked to play. Not one shred of argument their,I've been more than impressed by Stevenson,but as I say Elliot has to drift wide,come deep and generally run about like a dafty to get the ball,where as if he was playing with a natural strike/centre forward he wouldn't have to graft so hard and might just be in better positions to score more goals. I also don't think that Elliot is going to be a 20 a season striker,don't think he is that type of player,but as a player to play along side a centre forward he will pull defenders out of position,taking on flicks,holding it in,I think he will do really well then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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