Dunk-Section G Posted March 10, 2011 Share Posted March 10, 2011 Is there a timescale involved? It is obvious we need him back in the side. Is the Derby too soon? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heartsfc_fan Posted March 10, 2011 Share Posted March 10, 2011 I fear that he might be out for the rest of the season. I hope I'm wrong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Loblaw Posted March 10, 2011 Share Posted March 10, 2011 I fear that he might be out for the rest of the season. I hope I'm wrong I think this is looking increasingly likely. I reckon his next competitive game will be 23 July, hopefully i'm wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frankenstein Jambo. Posted March 10, 2011 Share Posted March 10, 2011 It annoys me that, like the Andy Driver situation there seems to be no communication from the club whats so ever to the people who pay the players wages. If they gave us a rough time scale instead of nothing then it would make all the more easier for us to understand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Serj Tankian Posted March 10, 2011 Share Posted March 10, 2011 The club should write off this season and get him ready for next season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjh1874 Posted March 10, 2011 Share Posted March 10, 2011 It's all good. Latest from the debacle thats the Tynie medical erhmmm team is "he doesn't need an operation just more jabs and rest" will be pushing for a place on April the 33rd Freaking joke Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaggy2 Posted March 10, 2011 Share Posted March 10, 2011 This is getting ridiculous. Have to agree with the posters who couldn't understand why he didn't go for an op which WOULD presumably have cured the problem nd had him back in 6-8 weeks. Instead they opted for injections which MIGHT cure the problem and have him back in 5-6 weeks. Looking increasingly like injections aren't/haven't working/worked and we're still at square one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frankenstein Jambo. Posted March 10, 2011 Share Posted March 10, 2011 This is getting ridiculous. Have to agree with the posters who couldn't understand why he didn't go for an op which WOULD presumably have cured the problem nd had him back in 6-8 weeks. Instead they opted for injections which MIGHT cure the problem and have him back in 5-6 weeks. Looking increasingly like injections aren't/haven't working/worked and we're still at square one. I don't think kyle wanted surgery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Debtor Posted March 10, 2011 Share Posted March 10, 2011 I thought surgery was rejected as not making any difference? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boris Posted March 10, 2011 Share Posted March 10, 2011 It annoys me that, like the Andy Driver situation there seems to be no communication from the club whats so ever to the people who pay the players wages. If they gave us a rough time scale instead of nothing then it would make all the more easier for us to understand. Well hopefully the Board know as it is they who pay the players wages! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disser Pointon Posted March 10, 2011 Share Posted March 10, 2011 As has been said previously we are unlikely to see him again this season unfortunately. Might be no bad thing looking ahead to next season though, 3rd place is already tied up as long as we beat the wee team on the 3rd jobs a good un. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frankenstein Jambo. Posted March 10, 2011 Share Posted March 10, 2011 Well hopefully the Board know as it is they who pay the players wages! and they magically conjure up that money from thin air? We buy the overly priced tickets, food and merchindise and we support the team through thick and thin. Therefore the club has a obligation to tell us going ons at the club I.E Injuries. In this case and with most other injuries they have failed to communicate properly with the people who ensure our club survives. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boris Posted March 10, 2011 Share Posted March 10, 2011 and they magically conjure up that money from thin air? We buy the overly priced tickets, food and merchindise and we support the team through thick and thin. Therefore the club has a obligation to tell us going ons at the club I.E Injuries. In this case and with most other injuries they have failed to communicate properly with the people who ensure our club survives. Eh, yeah, given the club has recorded a loss for the last god knows how many seasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambof3tornado Posted March 10, 2011 Share Posted March 10, 2011 If the could find the source of his injury they could start to sort him out. The fact his injury isn't that straightforward means I don't imagine he will return this season! Pity as he captains the team better than anyone else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbo-Jambo Posted March 10, 2011 Share Posted March 10, 2011 This is getting ridiculous. Have to agree with the posters who couldn't understand why he didn't go for an op which WOULD presumably have cured the problem nd had him back in 6-8 weeks. Instead they opted for injections which MIGHT cure the problem and have him back in 5-6 weeks. Looking increasingly like injections aren't/haven't working/worked and we're still at square one. Starting to think there has been a bit of ****** up with his inury ie the best course of action taken via the medical staff etc. It was quoted he was to see a specialist last Wednesday by JJ and that would give a clearer indication if how the injury is progressing. As usual the silence is deafening and the fans left in the dark. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boris Posted March 10, 2011 Share Posted March 10, 2011 I reckon he will play some of the game v Hibs. No reason for it, just a feeling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disser Pointon Posted March 10, 2011 Share Posted March 10, 2011 His injury is a throwback to one he suffered at Sunderland when he eventually ended up getting two bones in his hip fused together. Apparently there is now a bit of bone growth which they may need to shave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest GhostHunter Posted March 10, 2011 Share Posted March 10, 2011 and they magically conjure up that money from thin air? We buy the overly priced tickets, food and merchindise and we support the team through thick and thin. Therefore the club has a obligation to tell us going ons at the club I.E Injuries. In this case and with most other injuries they have failed to communicate properly with the people who ensure our club survives. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Treasurer Posted March 10, 2011 Share Posted March 10, 2011 It annoys me that, like the Andy Driver situation there seems to be no communication from the club whats so ever to the people who pay the players wages. If they gave us a rough time scale instead of nothing then it would make all the more easier for us to understand. So the club puts out a statement that says he will be back on a certain date. For whatever reason that date is not achieved. Result - JKB meltdown, supporter medical "experts" give their well informed opinion that he'll never kick a ball again etc etc. As has been pointed out time and again the injury he has is far from straightforward so giving exact time scales is no doubt impossible and would put unnecessary pressure on the player. It always amuses me how many experts on here that are "ITK" about the fitness of our playing staff tell us he needs this op or he won't play again this season etc without even knowing what the exact problem is. They are the same "experts" who told us that Driver was out for the season or would never kick a ball again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Problem Officer? Posted March 10, 2011 Share Posted March 10, 2011 Doubt we'll see him until the start of next season tbh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Winstone Posted March 10, 2011 Share Posted March 10, 2011 and they magically conjure up that money from thin air? We buy the overly priced tickets, food and merchindise and we support the team through thick and thin. Therefore the club has a obligation to tell us going ons at the club I.E Injuries. In this case and with most other injuries they have failed to communicate properly with the people who ensure our club survives. Another 'horror-show' of a post! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Loblaw Posted March 10, 2011 Share Posted March 10, 2011 To those talking about surgery, are they even 100% sure what the problem is? A lot of the time the injury seems to be talked about in different terms, so if they aren't sure then I fail to see how cutting him open and hacking away will solve anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Winstone Posted March 10, 2011 Share Posted March 10, 2011 How long until we can call him a 'waje theef'? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Benoit Posted March 10, 2011 Share Posted March 10, 2011 How long until we can call him a 'waje theef'? IN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gasman Posted March 10, 2011 Share Posted March 10, 2011 Eh, yeah, given the club has recorded a loss for the last god knows how many seasons. You should refrain from entering into a battle of wits with someone who only meets half the requirements. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boris Posted March 10, 2011 Share Posted March 10, 2011 You should refrain from entering into a battle of wits with someone who only meets half the requirements. Hehehe Oh well played.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swanny17 Posted March 10, 2011 Share Posted March 10, 2011 His injury is a throwback to one he suffered at Sunderland when he eventually ended up getting two bones in his hip fused together. Apparently there is now a bit of bone growth which they may need to shave. No problem now.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The White Cockade Posted March 10, 2011 Share Posted March 10, 2011 Twelfth of Never........... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wavydavy Posted March 10, 2011 Share Posted March 10, 2011 It's all good. Latest from the debacle thats the Tynie medical erhmmm team is "he doesn't need an operation just more jabs and rest" will be pushing for a place on April the 33rd Freaking joke I think you will find that the Hearts Physio said he does need an operation and that would have been the best route to take. Kyle is the one who did not want to do that and decided he wanted to see a Specialist (nothing wrong in that). The club released a statement saying that The Specialist had said a course of injections might resolve the problem. I believe he was to have four or five injections, one per week and see how things went from there. His last game for us was back on 11 January against St Johnstone. As far as I know he had the last injection two weeks ago and the club said there had been a slight improvement!!! So he is into his ninth week out of football and quite honestly I dont think was ever fully fit since he joined us and the chances of him being fit enough to return after such a lengthy lay-off are pretty remote. I agree with some of the other posters who say we will probably not see him play again in earnest this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Castle Magyar Posted March 10, 2011 Share Posted March 10, 2011 ... So he is into his ninth week out of football and quite honestly I dont think was ever fully fit since he joined us and the chances of him being fit enough to return after such a lengthy lay-off are pretty remote. ... Is he not on the edge of a heavy (4 games?) suspension as well, I think 1 more booking takes him over this threshold? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Old Tolbooth Posted March 11, 2011 Share Posted March 11, 2011 You should refrain from entering into a battle of wits with someone who only meets half the requirements. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wavydavy Posted March 11, 2011 Share Posted March 11, 2011 Is he not on the edge of a heavy (4 games?) suspension as well, I think 1 more booking takes him over this threshold? As far as I know he has been booked 4 times in the league and once in the league cup but regarding suspension that is determined by the number of points reached which I think is 18 for an automatic one match ban. Points are allocated depending on what the caution is for so unless you have a list of what the points are relating to the offences then it is difficult to work out. On the assumption that he has been given three points for each booking then he would be one booking away from a suspension as you say but I really don't hold out a lot of hope for him playing anytime soon. But one thing is for sure we certainly miss him up front. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redm Posted March 11, 2011 Share Posted March 11, 2011 There are probably lots of things that could be said about Kyle but you can't question his commitment and I have no doubt he'll be champing at the bit to come back. Especially so when he watches the sort of performance we churned out last weekend I'd imagine. On a slightly different note and in reference to a post made further up - do physiotherapists really make the call when it comes to determining the need for surgical treatment? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wavydavy Posted March 11, 2011 Share Posted March 11, 2011 There are probably lots of things that could be said about Kyle but you can't question his commitment and I have no doubt he'll be champing at the bit to come back. Especially so when he watches the sort of performance we churned out last weekend I'd imagine. On a slightly different note and in reference to a post made further up - do physiotherapists really make the call when it comes to determining the need for surgical treatment? I would always respect the view of a Specialist however when the Physios from Kilmarnock and Hearts reckon that the only solution is an op then I would have to go along with their opinions. You have to remember that the Physio's are treating and seeing these sort of injuries all the time and know when they can be fixed without an op and when they have tro go under the knife. Time will tell but as far as I know this is the same problem that he had when he was with Kilmarnock and the Physio there said he needed an op too!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deejtee Posted March 11, 2011 Share Posted March 11, 2011 Assuming that the specialist is, as the name implies, a doctor/surgeon with specialist knowledge and skills, then I would go 100% with his views. Can't remember a phsio ever operating on anyone!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beats Posted March 11, 2011 Share Posted March 11, 2011 Don't know if it's been posted but seemingly JJ isn't happy with the physio over all this and is trying to get Falkirks physio in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Romanov Saviour of HMFC Posted March 11, 2011 Share Posted March 11, 2011 We knew the risks when we signed Kyle I'm afraid. If we can get Lee Miller in as someone was suggesting yesterday, he'll be second choice anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wavydavy Posted March 12, 2011 Share Posted March 12, 2011 We knew the risks when we signed Kyle I'm afraid. If we can get Lee Miller in as someone was suggesting yesterday, he'll be second choice anyway. Or even Higdon from St Mirren who would do a similar job to Kyle and probably for a lot less money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beats Posted March 12, 2011 Share Posted March 12, 2011 Or even Higdon from St Mirren who would do a similar job to Kyle and probably for a lot less money. Higdon is absolute pish.Be better getting Jim Hamilton back than him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scabber Posted March 12, 2011 Share Posted March 12, 2011 big kevin was at the brechin v saints today.my mate asked him how he was said he will know more on monday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grumpyespana Posted March 12, 2011 Share Posted March 12, 2011 big kevin was at the brechin v saints today.my mate asked him how he was said he will know more on monday. [/quote Was Derek at the game today scabber and how did Ewan play. Grumpy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scabber Posted March 12, 2011 Share Posted March 12, 2011 derek was at game grumpy. ewan was superb samuel and mcdonald are still trying to get out of his back pocket as we speak Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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