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Nookie Bear

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.....just checked the English premiership split and it's a straight increase of ?800k for each position with no jump to protect the Big 4

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mahgrassyshoes

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Loving the massive difference between the top 2 and the rest !

 

How were arrangements like this allowed to happen? What were the other chairmen thinking???

 

:smiliz23:

 

Spot on. What a joke. How could they allow this to happen?!

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DETTY29

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.....just checked the English premiership split and it's a straight increase of ?800k for each position with no jump to protect the Big 4

I've not had a chance to review the figures yet however, in percentages terms, what is the difference between ?800k for bottom EPL and top (?20m) compared to SPL? But then you could do the same re 2nd and 3rd from both respective divisions.

 

I think the key however isn't prize money, but the overall distribution of SPL revenue shared around clubs.

 

I'm sure on an earlier thread when this was brought up, Man U for winning the title got ?60m combined revenue, whereas as Hull in last place got ?30m - a 100% difference. It would be fair to assume that whatever the league winners in Scotlandget is only double that of last place? Maybe not

 

Until there is a more even distribution of all SPL revenues across all clubs, I'm fully behind play offs for all positions in the league. Cos I don't like the OF much.

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Mr Brightside

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It's the Tv money that is unfairly split, until fairly recently they used to give most of that to the of regardless of league position.

 

Still needs to be split a bit more evenly.

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Le Chat

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League position - % of cash pot

 

1 - 4% + 13% = 17%

2 - 4% + 11% = 15%

3 - 4% + 5.5% = 9.5%

4 - 4% + 4.5% = 8.5%

5 - 4% + 4.0% = 8.0%

6 - 4% + 3.5% = 7.5%

7 - 4% + 3.0% = 7.0%

8 - 4% + 2.5% = 6.5%

9 - 4% + 2.0% = 6.0%

10 - 4% + 1.5% = 5.5%

11 - 4% + 1.0% = 5.0%

12 - 4% + 0.5% = 4.5%

 

What a fecking swizz. Do the OF just bend everyone over and give them it dry whenever there's a meeting on ?

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ThomasFlogel

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Disgusting.... Unless we start finishing in the top 2 every season, then thats fine by me.

 

But... I have a feeling if we did finsih in the top 2 every season then there might be a 'Review :rolleyes: '

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Drylaw Hearts

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The EPL figures :

 

Chelsea - ?16,000,000

Manchester United - ?15,200,000

Arsenal - ?14,400,000

Totenham Hotspur - ?13,600,000

Manchester City - ?12,800,000

Aston Villa - ?12,000,000

Liverpool - ?11,200,000

Everton - ?10,400,000

Birmingham - ?9,600,000

Blackburn - ?8,800,000

Stoke - ?8,000,000

Fulham - ?7,200,000

Sunderland - ?6,400,000

Bolton - ?5,600,000

Wolves - ?4,800,000

Wigan - ?4,000,000

West Ham - ?3,200,000

Burnley - ?2,400,000

Hull - ?1,600,000

Portsmouth - ?800,000

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DETTY29

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League position - % of cash pot

 

1 - 4% + 13% = 17%

2 - 4% + 11% = 15%

3 - 4% + 5.5% = 9.5%

4 - 4% + 4.5% = 8.5%

5 - 4% + 4.0% = 8.0%

6 - 4% + 3.5% = 7.5%

7 - 4% + 3.0% = 7.0%

8 - 4% + 2.5% = 6.5%

9 - 4% + 2.0% = 6.0%

10 - 4% + 1.5% = 5.5%

11 - 4% + 1.0% = 5.0%

12 - 4% + 0.5% = 4.5%

 

I can see the point of the winners getting a serious wad but, for the life of me I can't figure out why there is such a difference between 2nd and 3rd? There has to be a reason? Nope, can't get it.

 

Maybe once Rudi skelps in a 4th on Saturday I'll get a shot of inspiration and figure it out.

 

 

 

What a fecking swizz. Do the OF just bend everyone over and give them it dry whenever there's a meeting on ?

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I have said this before - the league needs to allocate it's income fairly.

 

I don't have an issue with prize money increasing for a higher finish - but for 2nd to 3rd spot having a 5.5% difference is far too much. Based on the figures above - each place in the Prem has difference of 0.5%

 

 

Total Pot ?168mil

 

1st 16mill 9.5%

2nd 15.2mill 9%

3rd 14.4mill 8.5%

4th 13.6mill 8%

 

There is no reason for the Old Firm to get more since the argument that has gone around for years is that they need us as much as we need them. Based on those 2007-08 figures 2nd spot earned just short of ?1mill more than 3rd place.

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DETTY29

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I have said this before - the league needs to allocate it's income fairly.

 

I don't have an issue with prize money increasing for a higher finish - but for 2nd to 3rd spot having a 5.5% difference is far too much. Based on the figures above - each place in the Prem has difference of 0.5%

 

 

Total Pot ?168mil

 

1st 16mill 9.5%

2nd 15.2mill 9%

3rd 14.4mill 8.5%

4th 13.6mill 8%

 

There is no reason for the Old Firm to get more since the argument that has gone around for years is that they need us as much as we need them. Based on those 2007-08 figures 2nd spot earned just short of ?1mill more than 3rd place.

So the team at the bottom of the EPL gets 0.5% whereas as botton SPL gets 4.5% so you could say at the bottom end of the SPL it's a more even distribution of wealth. Then again the difference from top to bottom in EPL is 9% against 13.5 in SPL. I suppose it's all about how you want to carve up your stats.

 

I still think it would be interesting to understand the media distribution to do a proper comparison.

 

One things for sure though, the difference in distribution between 2nd and 3rd in the SPL is an absolute disgrace.

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I have said this before - the league needs to allocate it's income fairly.

 

I don't have an issue with prize money increasing for a higher finish - but for 2nd to 3rd spot having a 5.5% difference is far too much. Based on the figures above - each place in the Prem has difference of 0.5%

 

 

Total Pot ?168mil

 

1st 16mill 9.5%

2nd 15.2mill 9%

3rd 14.4mill 8.5%

4th 13.6mill 8%

 

There is no reason for the Old Firm to get more since the argument that has gone around for years is that they need us as much as we need them. Based on those 2007-08 figures 2nd spot earned just short of ?1mill more than 3rd place.

 

I can understand the need for a different sort of breakdown when the cash pot is so much smaller, it means that the lowest placed teams in the SPL might actually get a decent wee lump sum regardless...but the breakdown is just a load of rubbish. How can 9th spot get only 3.5% less than 3rd spot when the 3rd spot gets 5.5% less than 2nd?! It's just mental.

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Well assuming that the only logical reasoning and backing they had for this was that the top 2 would represent the SPL in the Champions League, the small difference between 1st and 2nd should now increase and the gap between 2nd and 3rd should decrease now considering that 2nd place no longer gets a Champions League place in Scotland.

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Footballfirst

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The EPL figures :

 

Chelsea - ?16,000,000

Manchester United - ?15,200,000

Arsenal - ?14,400,000

Totenham Hotspur - ?13,600,000

Manchester City - ?12,800,000

Aston Villa - ?12,000,000

Liverpool - ?11,200,000

Everton - ?10,400,000

Birmingham - ?9,600,000

Blackburn - ?8,800,000

Stoke - ?8,000,000

Fulham - ?7,200,000

Sunderland - ?6,400,000

Bolton - ?5,600,000

Wolves - ?4,800,000

Wigan - ?4,000,000

West Ham - ?3,200,000

Burnley - ?2,400,000

Hull - ?1,600,000

Portsmouth - ?800,000

 

That is only what the EPL teams get as place money. All teams also receive an equal amount from the Sky TV deal which in 2007-08 amounted to ?22.8M each. They also receive a payment dependent on the number of games in which they are featured.

 

In 2007-08, Man Utd (1st) received ? 22.8M (Sky basic), ?14.4M (place money) and ?12.1M (games featured) - total ?49.3M. Derby (20th) received ?22.8M (Sky basic) ?720k (place money) and ?5.6M (games featured) - total ?29.1M.

 

The EPL TV revenues are split as follows (Source - the EPL official site):

50% in an equal distribution between the 20 clubs

25% based on merit (final league position)

25% "facility fees" - paid to clubs whose games are televised

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DETTY29

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That is only what the EPL teams get as place money. All teams also receive an equal amount from the Sky TV deal which in 2007-08 amounted to ?22.8M each. They also receive a payment dependent on the number of games in which they are featured.

 

In 2007-08, Man Utd (1st) received ? 22.8M (Sky basic), ?14.4M (place money) and ?12.1M (games featured) - total ?49.3M. Derby (20th) received ?22.8M (Sky basic) ?720k (place money) and ?5.6M (games featured) - total ?29.1M.

Can you find out the SPL equivalents?

 

First and last differential of 69%

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Footballfirst

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Can you find out the SPL equivalents?

 

First and last differential of 69%

As it say on the SPL link above

"All revenues generated by the SPL are effectively put into one pot. This money comes from TV deals and other commercial contracts"

So the figures above are the composite ones.

 

For comparison stakes - in 2007/08 Man Utd got 6.05% of the TV deal, and Derby got 3.57%. (remember too that there are 20 teams sharing the pot)

In the SPL 1st gets 17.5%, 2nd gets ?15% and 12th gets 4.5%

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