Strachsuit Posted January 18, 2008 I would personally go for this eleven: Banks Neilson Tall Berra Goncalves Driver Stewart Palazuelos Cesnauskis Ksnavicius Velicka 4-4-1-1 Formation with Audrey off Velicka, as its clear that Pospisil won't play and our options up front are powderpuff to be fair. Think this will be Shaggy's choice too. Thoughts? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ruud Krol Posted January 18, 2008 Tall is still injured. Karapidis to play beside Berra. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
magicTs Posted January 18, 2008 Banks Neilson (unfortunately no option) Karipidis Berra Goncalves Cesnauskis Stewart Palazeulos Jonsson Driver Velicka I would have Chesney and Driver getting right up against the Hobo's full backs and supporting Velicka with the 3 man midfield allowing them to break forward and give us a very dtrong base especially given the weak defence. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coco Posted January 18, 2008 I would personally go for this eleven: Banks Neilson Tall Berra Goncalves Driver Stewart Palazuelos Cesnauskis Ksnavicius Velicka 4-4-1-1 Formation with Audrey off Velicka, as its clear that Pospisil won't play and our options up front are powderpuff to be fair. Think this will be Shaggy's choice too. Thoughts? Is this what you would choose or what you think the team will be? Surely you can't want to see Ksnavicius play for us? My team in the absence of signings would be Banks Neilson-McGowan-Berra-Goncalves Driver-Stewart-Jonsson-Palazuelos Chesney Velicka Chesney in the hole. Driver on the right. If Nade has been busting his gut in training this week I would play him upfront instead of Velicka. But I doubt he has. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strachsuit Posted January 18, 2008 Tall is still injured. Karapidis to play beside Berra. Fair enough, I actually thought Karapidis played well against Killie, which I think he is capable of, just that he seems to switch off at key times (1st derby; last year at home to the sheep when nicholson scored). Much rather he was CB than RB though - see Robbie thread!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dirk Diggler Posted January 18, 2008 Banks Thomson Karapidis Berra Goncalves Driver (right mid) Stewart Jonsson Palazuelos Cesnauskas Velicka. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strachsuit Posted January 18, 2008 Is this what you would choose or what you think the team will be? Surely you can't want to see Ksnavicius play for us? My team in the absence of signings would be Banks Neilson-McGowan-Berra-Goncalves Driver-Stewart-Jonsson-Palazuelos Chesney Velicka Chesney in the hole. Driver on the right. If Nade has been busting his gut in training this week I would play him upfront instead of Velicka. But I doubt he has. That is what i think it will be. I would actually play: Banks Neilson Karapidis (Tall if he was fit) Berra Goncalves Cesny Stewart Ruben Driver Pospisil Velicka.... just know that aint gonna happen tho! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dr. Sheldon Cooper Posted January 18, 2008 Would like to see: Banks Neilson Karipidis Berra Goncalves Ches Stewart Palazuelos Driver Velicka Pospisil Subs: Basso/Kurskis, Wallace, McGowan, Ksanavicius, Jonsson, Miko, Nade Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strachsuit Posted January 18, 2008 Banks Thomson Karapidis Berra Goncalves Driver (right mid) Stewart Jonsson Palazuelos Cesnauskas Velicka. The only problem I have with this team is that it is distinctly a 4-5-1. The reason I say that is because Cesny is a winger and Stew,Jons&Pala are very much centre midfielders so you can guarantee that cesny will not support Velicka as much as you'd like because of the need to cover left mid. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
it_hearts Posted January 18, 2008 DONT THINK STEWART AND RUBEN CAN PLAY TOGETHER, WOULD RATHER PLAY JONSSEN TO BREAK UP PLAY IN MIDFEILD. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JamboLad Posted January 18, 2008 I wish people would stop wanting to see 4411 or 451 being played ! Banks Neilson Kara Berra Jose Chesney Ruben Eggert Driver Velicka Nade Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strachsuit Posted January 18, 2008 Would like to see: Banks Neilson Karipidis Berra Goncalves Ches Stewart Palazuelos Driver Velicka Pospisil Subs: Basso/Kurskis, Wallace, McGowan, Ksanavicius, Jonsson, Miko, Nade Same here, best possible team available IMO. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest JamboRobbo Posted January 18, 2008 I wish people would stop wanting to see 4411 or 451 being played ! I think they are just being realistic. Before this season, I doubt many Hearts fans would've been picking 4-5-1 or 4-4-1-1. But as we've all seen this season, that is likely what we'll be doing tomorrow. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dirk Diggler Posted January 18, 2008 The only problem I have with this team is that it is distinctly a 4-5-1. The reason I say that is because Cesny is a winger and Stew,Jons&Pala are very much centre midfielders so you can guarantee that cesny will not support Velicka as much as you'd like because of the need to cover left mid. That team would rip H*bs a new arsehole. FACT. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JamboLad Posted January 18, 2008 I think they are just being realistic. Before this season, I doubt many Hearts fans would've been picking 4-5-1 or 4-4-1-1. But as we've all seen this season, that is likely what we'll be doing tomorrow. True, i see your point and do agree with it in a way i think i am more hoping that Frail does not go back to 451. Its at Tynecastle and we should attack. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest JamboRobbo Posted January 18, 2008 True, i see your point and do agree with it in a way i think i am more hoping that Frail does not go back to 451. Its at Tynecastle and we should attack. Agree. I guess it's all just about personel. I reckon if Frail had 2 strikers he could really rely on, he would go 4-4-2. But IMO, I don't think Frail believes he has the strikers available to do that..... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coco Posted January 18, 2008 True, i see your point and do agree with it in a way i think i am more hoping that Frail does not go back to 451. Its at Tynecastle and we should attack. We don't have the right balance of players in midfield to play 4-4-2 successfully. With only Jonsson as a ballwinner, 4-4-2 puts huge pressure on the defenders. We're also lacking any mobile strikers who put in the work up front - defending from the front - for a 4-4-2. My view that the reason we have struggled with 4-4-1-1 this year is that the 4 in midfield have often featured 2 lightweight wingers as well as Stewart who is positionally indisciplined. Also we have tried to play the likes of Ksnavicius, Velicka or Elliot in the hole - and none of them are any good there. Chesney's a better footballer than any of them and might do well there. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ryan Gosling Posted January 18, 2008 Banks Neilson---McGowan---Berra---GoncalvesStewart---Jonsson---PalazuelosCesnauskis-----------------------DriverVelicka Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coco Posted January 18, 2008 Banks Neilson---McGowan---Berra---GoncalvesStewart---Jonsson---PalazuelosCesnauskis-----------------------DriverVelicka Is the right set of players. But Driver is a more effective player on the right I think. And Chesney can play in the hole. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lord BJ Posted January 18, 2008 Banks Neilson Karapidis Berra Goncalves Chesney Stewart Jonnson Ruben Velikca Makela/Pospisl Don't like the 4-4--1 1 midfield too lightweight due to 2 wingers. Plus Velikca ain't exactly best up top on his own. In additon not convinced we have anyone who can play behind a striker, far from convinced Chesney is up to it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Samster Posted January 18, 2008 Banks Neilson (unfortunately no option) Karipidis Berra Goncalves Cesnauskis Stewart Palazeulos Jonsson Driver Velicka I would have Chesney and Driver getting right up against the Hobo's full backs and supporting Velicka with the 3 man midfield allowing them to break forward and give us a very dtrong base especially given the weak defence. This should be the team in my opinion. It's basically a 4-5-1 becoming 4-3-3 in attack and as you say pushing right up on the Hibs fudbacks. Bringing Jonsson back in for Ksnavicius tightens up the midfield and with him sitting alongside Ruben it gives Stewart more licence to go forward. Ksnavicius's form has dropped in recent weeks and he needs a spot on the bench for a while as I still think he can do a job when called upon. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ryan Gosling Posted January 18, 2008 Is the right set of players. But Driver is a more effective player on the right I think. And Chesney can play in the hole. But Chesney has never played there in his career, why start now? Make them swap wings maybe, but that doesn't make any sense. You'd then also have to shift Ruben out to the wing. Just because he's left-footed doesn't mean he'd be good out there. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dunxjambo Posted January 18, 2008 Banks Neilson Karapidis Berra Goncalves Driver Stewart Palazuelos Cesnauskis Ksnavicius Velicka subs from Miko, Wallace, Pospisil, Ivaskevicius, Kurskis, Nade Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tommythejambo Posted January 18, 2008 Is this what you would choose or what you think the team will be? Surely you can't want to see Ksnavicius play for us? My team in the absence of signings would be Banks Neilson-McGowan-Berra-Goncalves Driver-Stewart-Jonsson-Palazuelos Chesney Velicka Chesney in the hole. Driver on the right. If Nade has been busting his gut in training this week I would play him upfront instead of Velicka. But I doubt he has. Nah that wold never work, Chesney is best out wide. I'd go for: Banksie Neilson Berra Karapidis Wallace Chesney Ruben Stewart Driver Velicka Nade Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coco Posted January 18, 2008 But Chesney has never played there in his career, why start now? Make them swap wings maybe, but that doesn't make any sense. You'd then also have to shift Ruben out to the wing. Just because he's left-footed doesn't mean he'd be good out there. Yep, I think Chesney could play in the hole. Could find space in the areas where Ronaldinho and Henry do in a left inside forward position too! Driver on the right wing. And Ruben on the left of midfield. He has the ability to cross the ball nicely from there. I am sick of us playing 2 out and out wingers and getting outmuscled in midfield. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dirk Diggler Posted January 18, 2008 Yep, I think Chesney could play in the hole. Could find space in the areas where Ronaldinho and Henry do in a left inside forward position too! Driver on the right wing. And Ruben on the left of midfield. He has the ability to cross the ball nicely from there. I am sick of us playing 2 out and out wingers and getting outmuscled in midfield. Agreed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lord BJ Posted January 18, 2008 I am sick of us playing 2 out and out wingers and getting outmuscled in midfield. I don't think its about to change until we get a new manager. Its been one of Frails biggest failings since being given the caretakers role. I'm dissapointed he has not attempted, at least, to address it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Statto Posted January 18, 2008 I personally would go for ................Banks .Neilson Karipidis Berra Goncalves Cesney Jonsson Palazuelos Driver ..........Velicka Pospisil but the likely lineup will be same GK+defence Cesney Stewart Jonsson Palazuelos Driver .......................Velicka Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Goldenboy Posted January 18, 2008 Banks Neilson Karapidis Berra Goncalves Chesney Stewart Jonsson Driver Pospisil Velicka Get the ball down, get it wide and run at them !!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jeremy Goss Posted January 18, 2008 Banks Neilson---McGowan---Berra---GoncalvesStewart---Jonsson---PalazuelosCesnauskis-----------------------DriverVelicka Thats the team!, Karapidis in place of McGowan possibly. Cesny and Driver are the key to us winning tomorrow Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hoss Posted January 18, 2008 Would like to see: Banks Neilson Karipidis Berra Goncalves Ches Stewart Palazuelos Driver Velicka Pospisil Subs: Basso/Kurskis, Wallace, McGowan, Ksanavicius, Jonsson, Miko, Nade spot On ... Pospisil needs to start a game if not then put in Ksanavicius behind Velicka with Stewart sitting deeper and not running around like a headless chicken Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Victor Meldrew Posted January 18, 2008 I would go for: Banks Neilson Karipidis Berra Goncalves Cesnauskis Palazuelos Stewart Johnson Driver Velicka I think that whilst it is a 4-5-1, it is a team that would allow the LM and RM to push up into auxillary striking roles and put a lot of pressure on the Hobo full-backs. The other 3 in midfield will be able to cover if the Hobos break. I like having Driver and Chesney as the wingers, as they can swap sides to torment the Hobo full-backs even more. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BervieJambo Posted January 18, 2008 Banks Neilson Karapidis Berra Goncalves Driver Jonsson Palazuelos Wallace Cesnauskis Velicka Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cade Posted January 18, 2008 Banks Neilson (unfortunately no option) Karipidis Berra Goncalves Cesnauskis Stewart Palazeulos Jonsson Driver Velicka I would have Chesney and Driver getting right up against the Hobo's full backs and supporting Velicka with the 3 man midfield allowing them to break forward and give us a very dtrong base especially given the weak defence. That's the team I'd put out as well. Playing Driver and Chesney way up top, like a proper 4-3-3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IMA MAROON Posted January 18, 2008 Banks Neilson Karapidis Berra Goncalves Driver Stewart Palazuelos Cesnauskis Ksnavicius Velicka Same team as last week. It has to be. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jambonairn Posted January 18, 2008 Banks Neilson (unfortunately no option) Karipidis Berra Goncalves Cesnauskis Stewart Palazeulos Jonsson Driver Velicka I would have Chesney and Driver getting right up against the Hobo's full backs and supporting Velicka with the 3 man midfield allowing them to break forward and give us a very dtrong base especially given the weak defence. Spot on! That is exactly the team I want to see on Saturday. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Big Moysey Posted January 18, 2008 ust running through this thread and got thinking about Romanov's comments that we lack quality now. If you look at a typical team of 2 years ago, it doesn;t half show how far backwards we have gone. I don't think any of the current lot would get into the team of 2years ago! the one anomoly - ROBBIE????? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Big Moysey Posted January 18, 2008 A typical team of 2 years ago Gordon Neilson Pressley Webster Fyssas Miko or Cesnauskis Hartley Brellier Skacel Bednar Jankauskis Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sandyseymour Posted January 18, 2008 Agree. I guess it's all just about personel. I reckon if Frail had 2 strikers he could really rely on, he would go 4-4-2. But IMO, I don't think Frail believes he has the strikers available to do that..... I don't think Frail believes he has the strikers available to do that and he doesn't have the right of mix in MF.....we really do need an out and out ball winner....Jonnson's nearly there but still too similar to Ruben and Stewart (the latter I don't rate anyway) ....we really are missing Kingston so it's better to go with 5 in MF as long as the wide men get forward in support Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
markletissier Posted January 18, 2008 Banks Neilson (unfortunately no option) Karipidis Berra Goncalves Cesnauskis Stewart Palazeulos Jonsson Driver Velicka I would have Chesney and Driver getting right up against the Hobo's full backs and supporting Velicka with the 3 man midfield allowing them to break forward and give us a very dtrong base especially given the weak defence. exactly how i see it as well mate. chesney and driver swapping flanks as well would be good. would be nice to see them staying far up as well and allow the centre mids to do all the ball chasing/winning. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Prince Buaben Posted January 18, 2008 I would go for: Banks Neilson Karipidis Berra Goncalves Cesnauskis Palazuelos Stewart Johnson Driver Velicka I think that whilst it is a 4-5-1, it is a team that would allow the LM and RM to push up into auxillary striking roles and put a lot of pressure on the Hobo full-backs. The other 3 in midfield will be able to cover if the Hobos break. I like having Driver and Chesney as the wingers, as they can swap sides to torment the Hobo full-backs even more. Spot on there! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coco Posted January 18, 2008 Same team as last week. It has to be. Why on earth would we want the same team as last week? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sandyseymour Posted January 18, 2008 Nah that wold never work, Chesney is best out wide. I'd go for: Banksie Neilson Berra Karapidis Wallace Chesney Ruben Stewart Driver Velicka Nade Nope to Wallace, Stewart and Nade ....replace with Goncalves, Jonnson and Audrey. Although Audrey's gone of the boil, he still causes problems and he did set up Chesney's goal last week (although he should have scored with his header last week) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DC_92 Posted January 18, 2008 Banks Neilson Karipidis Berra Goncalves Stewart Jonsson Palazuelos Cesnauskis Velicka Driver Driver and Cesnauskis slightly further back obviously. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
srm12 Posted January 18, 2008 Banks Neilson Karipidis Berra Goncalves Stewart Jonsson Palazuelos Cesnauskis Velicka Driver Driver and Cesnauskis slightly further back obviously. Nah keep them up there and I'll settle for that. If we are gonna select that team lets play it as a 4-3-3 not 4-5-1, and forget about all this 'player in the hole' pish. That only works if you have Bergkamp or Kaka in your side...and we don't. Velicka needs support, either tell Cesny and Driver to play as forwards, or play 2 up front. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Davie Posted January 18, 2008 i was working at heriot watt yesterday and spent a good hour watching the lads train, they had an 11 a side game about 20 mins a half, i'm thinking it was the team 2 play hibs against those not lucky enough to be playing, i can confirm they did not set out as a 4-4-2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IMA MAROON Posted January 18, 2008 Stewart, Jonsson and Palazuelos are too similar, one of them has to go. Jonsson on the bench then and same team as last week. We can drop Ksanavicius for Kingston when Kingston returns but for now, same team as last week. Edit: Except for Banks, obviously. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ryan Gosling Posted January 18, 2008 i was working at heriot watt yesterday and spent a good hour watching the lads train, they had an 11 a side game about 20 mins a half, i'm thinking it was the team 2 play hibs against those not lucky enough to be playing, i can confirm they did not set out as a 4-4-2 Why are you posting this? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IMA MAROON Posted January 18, 2008 Why are you posting this? Why not? Are they watching us? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coco Posted January 18, 2008 Stewart, Jonsson and Palazuelos are too similar, one of them has to go. Jonsson on the bench then and same team as last week. We can drop Ksanavicius for Kingston when Kingston returns but for now, same team as last week. Edit: Except for Banks, obviously. Jonsson last week was a massive miss to the team. Ksnavicius was absolutely absymal. He shouldn't be near the first team squad. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
