LeithJambo Posted April 2, 2010 Share Posted April 2, 2010 I opened a Willie Hills casino account the other night and got ?66.00 bonus funds. I didn't have to make a deposit. I now have worked this up to ?700 ish and decided to look at the conditions for withdrawing. I can see I am only elibable to withdraw ?200.00 of the winnings from the bonus funds and I'll lose the rest. Conditions also state I need to deposit ?35.00 before I make any withdrawal. Is it as simple as that? I deposit ?35.00 and then I can withdraw ?200.00? I haven't really got much of a clue about these things only signed up to aviod watching Glee with wife and kids. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeithJambo Posted April 2, 2010 Author Share Posted April 2, 2010 Anyone? Hurry up though I'm down to ?500 now and I'll soon be below the "magic" ?200 (if it is magic) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Say What Again Posted April 2, 2010 Share Posted April 2, 2010 Anyone? Hurry up though I'm down to ?500 now and I'll soon be below the "magic" ?200 (if it is magic) Can't you just stop gambling for now instead of playing on and losing it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeithJambo Posted April 2, 2010 Author Share Posted April 2, 2010 Good advice but I think I'm addicted or a dickhead - one of the two Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ignoranus Posted April 2, 2010 Share Posted April 2, 2010 Phone them? Email them? Or Gamble it all away Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Merse Posted April 2, 2010 Share Posted April 2, 2010 Deposit ?35 and find out! Try not to lose it all when you do though. Stick a quid on Black 26 for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Say What Again Posted April 2, 2010 Share Posted April 2, 2010 Good advice but I think I'm addicted or a dickhead - one of the two Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Old Tolbooth Posted April 2, 2010 Share Posted April 2, 2010 Good advice but I think I'm addicted or a dickhead - one of the two Very honest too!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phage Posted April 2, 2010 Share Posted April 2, 2010 If the terms say you gotta desposit 35 notes to get it then im guessing thats what you gotta do. Try it and if they get funny just withdraw your 35 notes. Bookies dont mind qualifying for free bets etc because they know that if you get into it you'll got all Colin Hendry on them and they win in the end. My advice would be dont gamble unless your prepared to put the time and effort in to find good odds... research past results etc all that jazz. And even then dont use WHill use Betfair or something where you can watch a game and patiently accure money. You stick a five on at Hills you lose it all. Betfair you can lower your loses trading out or switch team etc. But even then it's very easy to lose money as your probably found out in the last 500 notes you gambled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CalMac Posted April 2, 2010 Share Posted April 2, 2010 Don't think you'll be able to get the bonus out after only paying in 35 quid. I think the way it works is that you have to get your balance in excess of the bonus amount (i.e.win) then after you'd paid your 35 quid you can withdraw your 'winnings'. They don't just give the money away it's a bit of a scam to get you hooked & have to spend a decent amount. I might be wrong though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeithJambo Posted April 2, 2010 Author Share Posted April 2, 2010 I've had a lengthly dialouge with Willie Hills online support. Depositing the ?35.00 would have seen me getting a further bonus which would have had further "wagering requirements". Basically bets totalling 20 x additional bonus amount before I could withdraw the magic ?200.00 and my ?35.00 or , as they would likely hope, lose the lot! However,seems you can opt your account out of receiving bonuses which I have done. Nice lady then confirmed I merely have to deposit ?35 and can then withdraw ?235.00. This does seem too good to be true and although it's what they have confirmed I still can't believe it. This has been money for nothing other than playing roulette for a couple of hours over the last few days. Has anyone else done anthing like this? Does anyone else want to have a go then deposit their ?35.00 and see what happens and then tell me it's ok or do ,I just grow a set and make the deposit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Merse Posted April 2, 2010 Share Posted April 2, 2010 I've had a lengthly dialouge with Willie Hills online support. Depositing the ?35.00 would have seen me getting a further bonus which would have had further "wagering requirements". Basically bets totalling 20 x additional bonus amount before I could withdraw the magic ?200.00 and my ?35.00 or , as they would likely hope, lose the lot! However,seems you can opt your account out of receiving bonuses which I have done. Nice lady then confirmed I merely have to deposit ?35 and can then withdraw ?235.00. This does seem too good to be true and although it's what they have confirmed I still can't believe it. This has been money for nothing other than playing roulette for a couple of hours over the last few days. Has anyone else done anthing like this? Does anyone else want to have a go then deposit their ?35.00 and see what happens and then tell me it's ok or do ,I just grow a set and make the deposit? Deposit the ?35. Try to withdraw the ?235. If it fails, withdraw the ?35 you put in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaka Demus & pliers Posted April 2, 2010 Share Posted April 2, 2010 just grow a set and make the deposit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randle P McMurphy Posted April 2, 2010 Share Posted April 2, 2010 can you play blackjack on the site? if so there is a low risk strategy which will let you gamble the ?700 with an 80% win percentage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeithJambo Posted April 11, 2010 Author Share Posted April 11, 2010 I've had a lengthly dialouge with Willie Hills online support. Depositing the ?35.00 would have seen me getting a further bonus which would have had further "wagering requirements". Basically bets totalling 20 x additional bonus amount before I could withdraw the magic ?200.00 and my ?35.00 or , as they would likely hope, lose the lot! However,seems you can opt your account out of receiving bonuses which I have done. Nice lady then confirmed I merely have to deposit ?35 and can then withdraw ?235.00. This does seem too good to be true and although it's what they have confirmed I still can't believe it. This has been money for nothing other than playing roulette for a couple of hours over the last few days. Has anyone else done anthing like this? Does anyone else want to have a go then deposit their ?35.00 and see what happens and then tell me it's ok or do ,I just grow a set and make the deposit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeithJambo Posted April 11, 2010 Author Share Posted April 11, 2010 I did end up depositing ?35 and after the fair bit of "dicking about" with ID, etc ?235.00 has found it's way into my bank account. Basically guys, ?200.00 for not much work. Get yourselves signed up and good luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoJack Horseman Posted April 11, 2010 Share Posted April 11, 2010 I did end up depositing ?35 and after the fair bit of "dicking about" with ID, etc ?235.00 has found it's way into my bank account. Basically guys, ?200.00 for not much work. Get yourselves signed up and good luck. If you win... You could easily have stuck your ?66 on losing numbers and be sitting with an empty account. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeithJambo Posted April 11, 2010 Author Share Posted April 11, 2010 If you win... You could easily have stuck your ?66 on losing numbers and be sitting with an empty account. My apologies. How does, "basically a no risk opportunity to win up to ?200.00" sound?. Does that meet with your approval? Yes you could be sitting on with an empty account but it would have been the casino's money you lost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoJack Horseman Posted April 11, 2010 Share Posted April 11, 2010 My apologies. How does, "basically a no risk opportunity to win up to ?200.00" sound?. Does that meet with your approval? Yes you could be sitting on with an empty account but it would have been the casino's money you lost. This is better . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeithJambo Posted April 11, 2010 Author Share Posted April 11, 2010 This is better . Glad you are happy now. Bonus offer is still on, get signed up, get ?66.00, remember don't stick ?66.00 on losing numbers or you'll be left sitting with an empty account. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigsmak Posted April 11, 2010 Share Posted April 11, 2010 Glad you are happy now. Bonus offer is still on, get signed up, get ?66.00, remember don't stick ?66.00 on losing numbers or you'll be left sitting with an empty account. Betting on any losing thing is not the way to go.. Be it horses or Hibs wining the cup.... Just sometimes, I find that I don't know what will happen and get it wrong! O well! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoJack Horseman Posted June 13, 2010 Share Posted June 13, 2010 Righto. I've had my ?66, went up to ?100, back down to ?15 and now have myself sitting at ?250. What do I need to do to get my ?200 free cash? The way I've read it I need to: a) opt out of the other sign up bonus deposit ?35 c) withdraw ?235 Is this right? I don't need to wager any of that ?35? If so, how do I go about doing a)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoJack Horseman Posted June 13, 2010 Share Posted June 13, 2010 So I also had a lengthy chat with the online support people. To be able to withdraw the cash you first have to wager a total of ?1320. With my sitting at ?250 I had only wagered ?349. Thought I'd wager ?50 a spin on roulette, losing out ?2 a spin but finishing up with the ?200 still. Silly me didn't realise that only 20% of your stake on roulette counts so each spin was only taking me ?10 closer to my goal. Slots however count for 100% and that's why I'm now about ?460 away from being able to withdraw but no down to ?126 in my account. I guess that's what happens when you gamble at 5am. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoJack Horseman Posted June 13, 2010 Share Posted June 13, 2010 ?99 now... ffs. bed time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deesidejambo Posted June 13, 2010 Share Posted June 13, 2010 ?99 now... ffs. bed time. Unless you know what you are doing you will not only lose your welcome bouns but also your deposit. Heres some guidance...... http://www.onlinepokerhelp.talktalk.net/casinos.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoJack Horseman Posted June 13, 2010 Share Posted June 13, 2010 Unless you know what you are doing you will not only lose your welcome bouns but also your deposit. Heres some guidance...... http://www.onlinepokerhelp.talktalk.net/casinos.html I hadn't made a deposit. It was all just free cash. It's all gone now. Reckon I'll try again. Really should have done to bed at ?250. I'm an idiot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rust Cohle Posted June 13, 2010 Share Posted June 13, 2010 So I also had a lengthy chat with the online support people. To be able to withdraw the cash you first have to wager a total of ?1320. With my sitting at ?250 I had only wagered ?349. Thought I'd wager ?50 a spin on roulette, losing out ?2 a spin but finishing up with the ?200 still. Silly me didn't realise that only 20% of your stake on roulette counts so each spin was only taking me ?10 closer to my goal. Slots however count for 100% and that's why I'm now about ?460 away from being able to withdraw but no down to ?126 in my account. I guess that's what happens when you gamble at 5am. Is there anyway you can find out how much you've wagered so far? I'm up to ?270 on blackjack, staking ?25 at a time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoJack Horseman Posted June 13, 2010 Share Posted June 13, 2010 Is there anyway you can find out how much you've wagered so far? I'm up to ?270 on blackjack, staking ?25 at a time. Blackjack is also 20% so when you wager ?25 you are knocking ?5 off your wagering requirements. You can open up and online support chat box and ask them how much more you need to wager. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronJambo Posted June 13, 2010 Share Posted June 13, 2010 the simplest way to make the money withdrawable is to keep betting red & black on roulette and you shouldn't "lose" any of it apart from when zero rears its ugly head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rust Cohle Posted June 13, 2010 Share Posted June 13, 2010 the simplest way to make the money withdrawable is to keep betting red & black on roulette and you shouldn't "lose" any of it apart from when zero rears its ugly head. This seems like an incredibly good idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deesidejambo Posted June 14, 2010 Share Posted June 14, 2010 This seems like an incredibly good idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deesidejambo Posted June 14, 2010 Share Posted June 14, 2010 This seems like an incredibly good idea. No it ain't. The house advantage on roulette is 1-36/37 percent, i/e 2.7% To meet the WR (and therefore be allowed to withdraw) you would most likely lose the WR times that. So, for example, if the WR is 25 times your deposit of ?100 that comes to a WR of ?2500. 2.7% of that you will lose. So you would lose ?67. If your bons is more than that then you pocket the difference, but if the bonus was less than ?67 then you most likely lose. This gets clouded by statistical variance but mathematically you need to work out the HA of the game you are playing (2.7% for roulette) Then multiply that be the WR (adjusting for the discount % for the game you are playing. If the bonus is greated than this number then you have a positive value, and should proceed. Note that if playing Blackjack this assumes you do "perfect play" i.e. follow the exact guidance in the website below. If you do that you reduce the HA to 0.5%, if you don't the HA goes through the roof and you will most likely lose. [email protected] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rust Cohle Posted June 14, 2010 Share Posted June 14, 2010 No it ain't. The house advantage on roulette is 1-36/37 percent, i/e 2.7% To meet the WR (and therefore be allowed to withdraw) you would most likely lose the WR times that. So, for example, if the WR is 25 times your deposit of ?100 that comes to a WR of ?2500. 2.7% of that you will lose. So you would lose ?67. If your bons is more than that then you pocket the difference, but if the bonus was less than ?67 then you most likely lose. This gets clouded by statistical variance but mathematically you need to work out the HA of the game you are playing (2.7% for roulette) Then multiply that be the WR (adjusting for the discount % for the game you are playing. If the bonus is greated than this number then you have a positive value, and should proceed. Note that if playing Blackjack this assumes you do "perfect play" i.e. follow the exact guidance in the website below. If you do that you reduce the HA to 0.5%, if you don't the HA goes through the roof and you will most likely lose. [email protected] Cheers for the advice, I know sod all about gambling really. Think I'll just keep playing for fun, and if I get up to a large amount then I'll start panicking about how to withdraw it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronJambo Posted June 14, 2010 Share Posted June 14, 2010 No it ain't. The house advantage on roulette is 1-36/37 percent, i/e 2.7% To meet the WR (and therefore be allowed to withdraw) you would most likely lose the WR times that. So, for example, if the WR is 25 times your deposit of ?100 that comes to a WR of ?2500. 2.7% of that you will lose. So you would lose ?67. If your bons is more than that then you pocket the difference, but if the bonus was less than ?67 then you most likely lose. This gets clouded by statistical variance but mathematically you need to work out the HA of the game you are playing (2.7% for roulette) Then multiply that be the WR (adjusting for the discount % for the game you are playing. If the bonus is greated than this number then you have a positive value, and should proceed. Note that if playing Blackjack this assumes you do "perfect play" i.e. follow the exact guidance in the website below. If you do that you reduce the HA to 0.5%, if you don't the HA goes through the roof and you will most likely lose. [email protected] an incredibly sound post. i never done my maths and just dived straight in i actually thought it was the same bonus i used a while back (which i did actually cover zero in as well) where covering the whole wheel was the best way to clean up http://www.hmfckickback.co.uk/index.php?/topic/58986-l19-for-free/page__p__1266118__fromsearch__1entry1266118 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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