portobellojambo1 Posted October 24, 2009 Share Posted October 24, 2009 A lot of the stuff on you tube ain't worth looking at, this video, in my opinion, most certainly is - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark_Mywords Posted October 25, 2009 Share Posted October 25, 2009 Well said that man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigC Posted October 25, 2009 Share Posted October 25, 2009 I've followed Pat Condell for a long time. He's a real polemic who attacks extremists of all religions in no uncertain terms. Kind of like a British Geert Wilders (without the hypocracy of prefering one religion over the other). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott_jambo Posted October 25, 2009 Share Posted October 25, 2009 A lot of the stuff on you tube ain't worth looking at, this video, in my opinion, most certainly is - Awful video. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miller Jambo 60 Posted October 25, 2009 Share Posted October 25, 2009 Awful video. OH dear, truth hurts mate. And how was it awful. Great video and well said, thing is we have free speech in Britain. Thanks to our great army. Doug. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jambogarry Posted October 25, 2009 Share Posted October 25, 2009 A lot of the stuff on you tube ain't worth looking at, this video, in my opinion, most certainly is - He took the words right out my mouth. Well said that man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jambogarry Posted October 25, 2009 Share Posted October 25, 2009 Awful video. Awful post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Rev Posted October 25, 2009 Share Posted October 25, 2009 Awful video. Explain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2NaFish Posted October 25, 2009 Share Posted October 25, 2009 OH dear, truth hurts mate.And how was it awful. Great video and well said, thing is we have free speech in Britain. Thanks to our great army. Doug. would that be the freedom of speech that the guy in the video would take away from the people protesting the soldiers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miller Jambo 60 Posted October 25, 2009 Share Posted October 25, 2009 would that be the freedom of speech that the guy in the video would take away from the people protesting the soldiers? And my answer to that leftie rubbish you just printed. Anyone in Britain who slags our soldiers are discarded from free speech. OK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2NaFish Posted October 25, 2009 Share Posted October 25, 2009 And my answer to that leftie rubbish you just printed.Anyone in Britain who slags our soldiers are discarded from free speech. OK. its liberal, not leftist. "free speech for all!! except for the stuff i dont like." You dont have to like it - and neither do I - but what the soldiers are fighting for means nothing if you yourself wont stand for it. By denying your enemy that which you claim to be worth the lives of soldiers you become a hypocrite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott_jambo Posted October 25, 2009 Share Posted October 25, 2009 Explain. A sanctimonious p***k doing nothing more than stating the obvious on an emotive subject but added with a lecturing tone and his staged transparent 'anger' to gain more youtube hits so that his ego and inflated sense of self importance can be massaged further. He's so 'angry' that he is smirking the whole way through the video. Needs a slap. Hope this clears things up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigC Posted October 25, 2009 Share Posted October 25, 2009 its liberal, not leftist. "free speech for all!! except for the stuff i dont like." You dont have to like it - and neither do I - but what the soldiers are fighting for means nothing if you yourself wont stand for it. By denying your enemy that which you claim to be worth the lives of soldiers you become a hypocrite. At which point in the video did he say they didn't have the right to protest? All he said was that in his opinion, the message they were espousing was so at odds with the vast majority of British people, that they should consider their position as UK residents. He didn't deny them their freedom of speech, he just countered it with some of his own. That's how free speech works. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigC Posted October 25, 2009 Share Posted October 25, 2009 A sanctimonious p***k doing nothing more than stating the obvious on an emotive subject but added with a lecturing tone and his staged transparent 'anger' to gain more youtube hits so that his ego and inflated sense of self importance can be massaged further. He's so 'angry' that he is smirking the whole way through the video. Needs a slap. Hope this clears things up. So you agree with him then? Good. That does clear things up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2NaFish Posted October 25, 2009 Share Posted October 25, 2009 At which point in the video did he say they didn't have the right to protest? All he said was that in his opinion, the message they were espousing was so at odds with the vast majority of British people, that they should consider their position as UK residents. He didn't deny them their freedom of speech, he just countered it with some of his own. That's how free speech works. When he said 'if you don't like it, you can get out.' Come on, they can hardly protest if they're not in the country. It doesnt matter if the vast majority of people dislike it, whilst it remains peaceful they are/were within their rights. It's like the flag burning debate in america. Reactionary morons would get annoyed when people would burn their flag thinking that doing so would destroy the rights it represents, but the flag represents the freedom to burn the flag. As such, the soldiers faught and continue to fight for the rights to free speech. It doesnt have to be popular to be permissable, but this man, whoever he is, is merely playing on emotion - jabbing an open wound - making blindingly obvious points which lead to an illogical conclusion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott_jambo Posted October 25, 2009 Share Posted October 25, 2009 So you agree with him then? Good. That does clear things up. Do i agree people shouldnt try and attack soldiers in the street? Tough one. Once again, for the record, Awful video. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
269miles Posted October 26, 2009 Share Posted October 26, 2009 A lot of the stuff on you tube ain't worth looking at, this video, in my opinion, most certainly is - Yawn. And his point was? Apart from his vanity , obviously. Edit : Narcissus , move over. You've got some competition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chester copperpot Posted October 26, 2009 Share Posted October 26, 2009 A lot of the stuff on you tube ain't worth looking at, this video, in my opinion, most certainly is - I swear that's what Jambopompey will look like in 20 years or so. Agree with the words too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudi must stay Posted October 26, 2009 Share Posted October 26, 2009 Awful video. didn't like it either. It's just a rant really, he doesn't really make any points and attacks people who chances are won't even watch it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigC Posted October 26, 2009 Share Posted October 26, 2009 When he said 'if you don't like it, you can get out.' Come on, they can hardly protest if they're not in the country. It doesnt matter if the vast majority of people dislike it, whilst it remains peaceful they are/were within their rights. It's like the flag burning debate in america. Reactionary morons would get annoyed when people would burn their flag thinking that doing so would destroy the rights it represents, but the flag represents the freedom to burn the flag. As such, the soldiers faught and continue to fight for the rights to free speech. It doesnt have to be popular to be permissable, but this man, whoever he is, is merely playing on emotion - jabbing an open wound - making blindingly obvious points which lead to an illogical conclusion. The good news is, it's not just Anglo-Saxons who are speaking out: Thankfully there are some wonderful people who have retained their muslim faith whilst embracing the core values of our country and they are reacting in by protesting against those who seek to instill a warped extremist version of their faith onto the British population as a whole. I admire their unmeasurable courage. The only difference between them and Pat Condell (apart from their religious identity and ethnic origin) is their decision to take a more humerous approach rather than fighting fire with fire. There is room for all strategies when fighting extremists and I for one am grateful to anyone who stands up and speaks out for my freedom, whether they be moderate muslims or strident, sarcastic, ale drinking, grumpy old atheists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott_jambo Posted October 27, 2009 Share Posted October 27, 2009 The good news is, it's not just Anglo-Saxons who are speaking out: Thankfully there are some wonderful people who have retained their muslim faith whilst embracing the core values of our country and they are reacting in by protesting against those who seek to instill a warped extremist version of their faith onto the British population as a whole. I admire their unmeasurable courage. The only difference between them and Pat Condell (apart from their religious identity and ethnic origin) is their decision to take a more humerous approach rather than fighting fire with fire. There is room for all strategies when fighting extremists and I for one am grateful to anyone who stands up and speaks out for my freedom, whether they be moderate muslims or strident, sarcastic, ale drinking, grumpy old atheists. Just wiki'd this Pat guy. Brought up a Catholic, now a raging atheist. Nothing worse than 'born again's' - always preaching. Anyway, good to see he picks on muslims more than any other religion, he clearly has sordid nightmares of priests from his youth so needs to shout at a few muslims through his little videocam. The man is a jabroni and someone needs to lay the smackdown on his candy ass. *Note, this is my overall conclusion after viewing a few more of his masterpieces* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigC Posted October 27, 2009 Share Posted October 27, 2009 Just wiki'd this Pat guy. Brought up a Catholic, now a raging atheist. Nothing worse than 'born again's' - always preaching. Anyway, good to see he picks on muslims more than any other religion, he clearly has sordid nightmares of priests from his youth so needs to shout at a few muslims through his little videocam. That is just not true. Look at his youtube channel. It's utterly full of condemnation of Christianity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott_jambo Posted October 27, 2009 Share Posted October 27, 2009 That is just not true. Look at his youtube channel. It's utterly full of condemnation of Christianity. I believe you, but this born again atheist should stop trying to lecture his beliefs down a cam. If i was a muslim and this old fart was telling me - if you dont believe in what i believe then get out my country - then i would slap him in the face with a condom to remind him of why his catholic priest used to say condoms were evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigC Posted October 27, 2009 Share Posted October 27, 2009 I believe you, but this born again atheist should stop trying to lecture his beliefs down a cam. If i was a muslim and this old fart was telling me - if you dont believe in what i believe then get out my country - then i would slap him in the face with a condom to remind him of why his catholic priest used to say condoms were evil. That isnt what he says. He says "If you don't believe in my right to believe what I want, then get out of this country because your views are at odds with 99.9% of the population". Massive and fundamental difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miller Jambo 60 Posted October 27, 2009 Share Posted October 27, 2009 I believe you, but this born again atheist should stop trying to lecture his beliefs down a cam. If i was a muslim and this old fart was telling me - if you dont believe in what i believe then get out my country - then i would slap him in the face with a condom to remind him of why his catholic priest used to say condoms were evil. I like that Scott, slap him with a condom:smiley2: Doug. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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