Ibrahim Tall Posted October 2, 2009 Share Posted October 2, 2009 Anyone just watch it on c4? What a ****ing ******. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy-y Posted October 2, 2009 Share Posted October 2, 2009 that was class tv gambling some guys 5k and loosing it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paolo Posted October 2, 2009 Share Posted October 2, 2009 He wasnae far off - and the guy is getting his money back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beverley Posted October 2, 2009 Share Posted October 2, 2009 He wasnae far off - and the guy is getting his money back. you could tell by the guys face though, that he thought the ?175k was in the bag oops hahaha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victorian Posted October 2, 2009 Share Posted October 2, 2009 derren brown was a ****** before this caper and after it has finished, he remains a ******. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paolo Posted October 2, 2009 Share Posted October 2, 2009 you could tell by the guys face though, that he thought the ?175k was in the bag oops hahaha Yes, one away, still a loss, but still a damn closer to what I ever get to, and I cover more than one number. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ibrahim Tall Posted October 2, 2009 Author Share Posted October 2, 2009 Yes, one away, still a loss, but still a damn closer to what I ever get to, and I cover more than one number. The ball was as likely to land there as anywhere else, his "technique" failed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GforGallo Posted October 2, 2009 Share Posted October 2, 2009 This whole series was awful:stuart: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acey Posted October 2, 2009 Share Posted October 2, 2009 Typical British mentality in action here - revelling in narrow failure, even though the guy has done quite incredible things for years and years. Sad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paolo Posted October 2, 2009 Share Posted October 2, 2009 The ball was as likely to land there as anywhere else, his "technique" failed. true, i fail more spectaculalry though - or maybe not, since i do not do it on telly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arse 'Friends' Dyslexic? Posted October 2, 2009 Share Posted October 2, 2009 Derren Brown = Adam Klaus (look it up. ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig R Posted October 2, 2009 Share Posted October 2, 2009 The ball was as likely to land there as anywhere else, his "technique" failed. Nailed where it was going to land to within 1 cm. Decent effort. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tommythejambo Posted October 2, 2009 Share Posted October 2, 2009 Typical British mentality in action here - revelling in narrow failure, even though the guy has done quite incredible things for years and years. Sad. Spot on. The guy had a great technique and some of the things he has been doing in the studio have been different class. I think it's just a sad mentality that alot of British (Scottish in particular, I'd say) folk seem to have. Revelling in someone more succesful than you are's failure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Towzer Posted October 2, 2009 Share Posted October 2, 2009 im still stuck to my chair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ibrahim Tall Posted October 2, 2009 Author Share Posted October 2, 2009 Nailed where it was going to land to within 1 cm. Decent effort. Just as likely a fluke as anything else, if his technique actually worked it would have landed where he said it would. Nevermind that bollocks with predicting the car speeds, shock horror traffic travelling at approximately 50mph on a 50 road while traffic cops are in clear view. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tommythejambo Posted October 2, 2009 Share Posted October 2, 2009 Just as likely a fluke as anything else, if his technique actually worked it would have landed where he said it would. Nevermind that bollocks with predicting the car speeds, shock horror traffic travelling at approximately 50mph on a 50 road while traffic cops are in clear view. You really think he'd film live, putting alot of his reputation on the line, on the basis of a possible fluke. Don't think so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beverley Posted October 2, 2009 Share Posted October 2, 2009 Typical British mentality in action here - revelling in narrow failure, even though the guy has done quite incredible things for years and years. Sad. i think the guy is incredible personally, an you know what? if i was as clever as he clearly is, i'd be a smug barstud too. still, the guys reaction to thinking he lost his 5 grand was pretty funny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest King Posted October 2, 2009 Share Posted October 2, 2009 I thought that it was quite a bad series, i prefer when he just does tricks on stage or in the street. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ibrahim Tall Posted October 2, 2009 Author Share Posted October 2, 2009 You really think he'd film live, putting alot of his reputation on the line, on the basis of a possible fluke. Don't think so. He wasn't aiming for that number though was he, where it did land is irrelevant if it's not what you actually want. He obviously thought he could land it on the 8, it didn't, whether it lands one place away or 10 away he still lost. I'm saying it was as likely a fluke on the basis that the table is inanimate object it has idea what number he's chosen so it's as likely to put the ball on his square as it did land on, or the one next to that, or next to that..etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tommythejambo Posted October 2, 2009 Share Posted October 2, 2009 He wasn't aiming for that number though was he, where it did land is irrelevant if it's not what you actually want. He obviously thought he could land it on the 8, it didn't, whether it lands one place away or 10 away he still lost. I'm saying it was as likely a fluke on the basis that the table is inanimate object it has idea what number he's chosen so it's as likely to put the ball on his square as it did land on, or the one next to that, or next to that..etc. I disagree. Whilst I can admit he never got what he was after, he was aiming for the 8 and landed 1 away (31, I think it was). Which if he was using the technique he said he was is pretty ****ing good by anyones standards, and lets be honest, he would probably pull it off more times than not. I also disagree about the table being a inimate object. The ball moves at a certain speed and the wheel moves at a certain speed, as the boy from the Real Hustle said, it is very possible. Today, he was unlucky, and was one out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig R Posted October 2, 2009 Share Posted October 2, 2009 He wasn't aiming for that number though was he, where it did land is irrelevant if it's not what you actually want. He obviously thought he could land it on the 8, it didn't, whether it lands one place away or 10 away he still lost. Surely you can appreciate it was a good effort though? If a footballer tries an audacious dig at goal from 30 yards out and clips the bar, can you not applaud a good attempt? Despite not altering the score in any way, you can appreciate it was a decent effort...better than slicing it high and wide and sticking the ball in row Z, no? Likewise guessing the location a roulette ball is going to land on to within one space on the board is pretty impressive and better than it landing a number on the opposite side of the wheel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Old Tolbooth Posted October 2, 2009 Share Posted October 2, 2009 im still stuck to my chair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tazio Posted October 2, 2009 Share Posted October 2, 2009 Typical British mentality in action here - revelling in narrow failure, even though the guy has done quite incredible things for years and years. Sad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig R Posted October 2, 2009 Share Posted October 2, 2009 I thought that it was quite a bad series, i prefer when he just does tricks on stage or in the street. Yeah didn't like it as much as previous stuff. The ad for his web series debunking the paranormal looked promising though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haggismac Posted October 2, 2009 Share Posted October 2, 2009 eh, he chose a guy with loads of cash, or it apeared so. I bet it was all part of the plan and there will be a follow up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tommythejambo Posted October 2, 2009 Share Posted October 2, 2009 Surely you can appreciate it was a good effort though? If a footballer tries an audacious dig at goal from 30 yards out and clips the bar, can you not applaud a good attempt? Despite not altering the score in any way, you can appreciate it was a decent effort...better than slicing it high and wide and sticking the ball in row Z, no? Likewise guessing the location a roulette ball is going to land on to within one space on the board is pretty impressive and better than it landing a number on the opposite side of the wheel. I was going to use the exact same example, but spraffed utter crap instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tommythejambo Posted October 2, 2009 Share Posted October 2, 2009 eh, he chose a guy with loads of cash, or it apeared so. I bet it was all part of the plan and there will be a follow up. I think he got a load of people to apply, if they had more than ?5000 savings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ragnar Posted October 2, 2009 Share Posted October 2, 2009 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig R Posted October 2, 2009 Share Posted October 2, 2009 To be honest I think his "technique" was a load of nonsense, and that it was deliberately staged for him to be one number out so it all looked more believable. How it was staged I have no idea, but that's magic tricks for ya. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Doctor Posted October 2, 2009 Share Posted October 2, 2009 If he was in a real casino filming that tonight then I'll eat my hat. (I have several, I'd hardly miss one) It was really very fake, with the shaky, up the sleeve, camera cutting out intermittently and getting interference. If he had actually done it there would be uproar, not to mention thousands of people thinking they could do the same, trying to time the wheel, ball and trajectory (WTF was that about? The ball doesn't have a trajectory, it spins round the lip of the wheel!) and win big! It would have been very wrong to suggest it could be done, but what he did was genius, making it look like he was close, without encouraging people to actually try. Like, he almost did it, but it's not worth the risk. The 'skill' was bollocks, but the showmanship is superb. Another illusion/performance/misdirection act, no more real than any other in the series, but brilliantly presented. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tommythejambo Posted October 2, 2009 Share Posted October 2, 2009 If he was in a real casino filming that tonight then I'll eat my hat. (I have several, I'd hardly miss one) It was really very fake, with the shaky, up the sleeve, camera cutting out intermittently and getting interference. If he had actually done it there would be uproar, not to mention thousands of people thinking they could do the same, trying to time the wheel, ball and trajectory (WTF was that about? The ball doesn't have a trajectory, it spins round the lip of the wheel!) and win big! It would have been very wrong to suggest it could be done, but what he did was genius, making it look like he was close, without encouraging people to actually try. Like, he almost did it, but it's not worth the risk. The 'skill' was bollocks, but the showmanship is superb. Another illusion/performance/misdirection act, no more real than any other in the series, but brilliantly presented. If he was going to fake it, he would've got it right. Don't you think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2NaFish Posted October 2, 2009 Share Posted October 2, 2009 i really enjoy brown's stuff. he looks to debunk the mythology surrounding tecniques used by shysters, but overall this series has left me less than impressed. the build up to each of his events have been good enough, but the payoff was lacking everytime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Doctor Posted October 2, 2009 Share Posted October 2, 2009 If he was going to fake it, he would've got it right. Don't you think? No, it's more convincing to get it nearly right and more responsible too. Imagine if he'd got it right it, how many wannabe Derren Brown's would be wasting their time trying to tap out the rhythm of the ball and the zero and predict where the ball will land? It can't be done! Not even computers can get it right, they can forecast to about a third of the wheel. It WAS a trick, they've all been tricks, it's the presentation that's the clever bit! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ragnar Posted October 2, 2009 Share Posted October 2, 2009 FAILURE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beverley Posted October 2, 2009 Share Posted October 2, 2009 i really enjoy brown's stuff. he looks to debunk the mythology surrounding tecniques used by shysters, but overall this series has left me less than impressed. the build up to each of his events have been good enough, but the payoff was lacking everytime. i'd probably agree with this actually. i prefer things like his series where he goes out and plays with peoples head, or gets celebs in a freaks them with stuff cos i find that more entertaining. i loved his "messiah" thing from a few years ago too, that was great viewing so i'm looking forwards to the next things he's doing cos it appears from the trailers, he'll be doing the same kind of thing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yo Yo the Parrot Posted October 2, 2009 Share Posted October 2, 2009 If he was in a real casino filming that tonight then I'll eat my hat. (I have several, I'd hardly miss one) It was really very fake, with the shaky, up the sleeve, camera cutting out intermittently and getting interference. If he had actually done it there would be uproar, not to mention thousands of people thinking they could do the same, trying to time the wheel, ball and trajectory (WTF was that about? The ball doesn't have a trajectory, it spins round the lip of the wheel!) and win big! It would have been very wrong to suggest it could be done, but what he did was genius, making it look like he was close, without encouraging people to actually try. Like, he almost did it, but it's not worth the risk. The 'skill' was bollocks, but the showmanship is superb. Another illusion/performance/misdirection act, no more real than any other in the series, but brilliantly presented. What a real casino "somewhere in Europe" that they cant film (been to few and not many accept 5k (pounds) on a single bet) The bet was as real as Katie Prices boobs and it only cost him ?5,000 in the end unlike the Katester of course Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beverley Posted October 2, 2009 Share Posted October 2, 2009 What a real casino "somewhere in Europe" that they cant film (been to few and not many accept 5k (pounds) on a single bet) The bet was as real as Katie Prices boobs and it only cost him ?5,000 in the end i used to be a dealer, and casinos would accept high stake bets under certain circumstances and from certain players so its not impossible. also, i noticed the dealer was speaking french, so if he was somewhere like the riviera or monte carlo or something like that then they would be used to high stake bets. the one thing that i found odd though is he asked for "10 x 500s" so that suggests to me that he was betting in sterling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tommythejambo Posted October 2, 2009 Share Posted October 2, 2009 i used to be a dealer, and casinos would accept high stake bets under certain circumstances and from certain players so its not impossible. also, i noticed the dealer was speaking french, so if he was somewhere like the riviera or monte carlo or something like that then they would be used to high stake bets. the one thing that i found odd though is he asked for "10 x 500s" so that suggests to me that he was betting in sterling You make a good point there actually. But with the euro being so close to the pound these days, he might have just bet about ?4500? Don't know tbh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Doctor Posted October 2, 2009 Share Posted October 2, 2009 i used to be a dealer, and casinos would accept high stake bets under certain circumstances and from certain players so its not impossible. Circumstances like if it was fake? Certain players like Derren Brown? also, i noticed the dealer was speaking french, so if he was somewhere like the riviera or monte carlo or something like that then they would be used to high stake bets. Or if he was in a warehouse in Stoke? the one thing that i found odd though is he asked for "10 x 500s" so that suggests to me that he was betting in sterling It's not that odd if it was fake though is it? Not having a go Bev! You're smart enough to know it was fake, isn't that the whole point of 'The Events'? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunks Posted October 2, 2009 Share Posted October 2, 2009 I agree entirely with the Doctor. Definitely faked, but nicely done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beverley Posted October 2, 2009 Share Posted October 2, 2009 Not having a go Bev! You're smart enough to know it was fake, isn't that the whole point of 'The Events'? oh of course, but i do enjoy devils advocate sometimes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Doctor Posted October 2, 2009 Share Posted October 2, 2009 oh of course, but i do enjoy devils advocate sometimes Oh you are wicked..... But I like you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yo Yo the Parrot Posted October 2, 2009 Share Posted October 2, 2009 i used to be a dealer, and casinos would accept high stake bets under certain circumstances and from certain players so its not impossible. also, i noticed the dealer was speaking french, so if he was somewhere like the riviera or monte carlo or something like that then they would be used to high stake bets. the one thing that i found odd though is he asked for "10 x 500s" so that suggests to me that he was betting in sterling Would agree with that Bev as I once sat beside a guy who could buy and sell me a hundred times over (if not more). However he was well know to the casino and did not have any of the problems that Derren supposedly had to put up with. The other thing I found strange was that ther was only 2 people (that could not be filmed) sitting at the table. One a bloke and one a wide ersed woman. Most tables I have sat at are hard to get an "in" if you just walk through the door (even in Vegas) However as for the guy speaking French most casinos in Edinburgh have dealers speaking an "alternative" languague these days. French just makes you think he is in Monte Carlo but he could just as well be up Fountainbridge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beverley Posted October 2, 2009 Share Posted October 2, 2009 Oh you are wicked..... But I like you! i ain't wicked i'm a paragon of virtue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yo Yo the Parrot Posted October 3, 2009 Share Posted October 3, 2009 i ain't wicked i'm a paragon of virtue I will have ?5K on that your not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack bauer Posted October 3, 2009 Share Posted October 3, 2009 What a real casino "somewhere in Europe" that they cant film (been to few and not many accept 5k (pounds) on a single bet) The bet was as real as Katie Prices boobs and it only cost him ?5,000 in the end unlike the Katester of course The reason it was "somewhere in Europe" is because he is banned from all casinos in Britain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yo Yo the Parrot Posted October 3, 2009 Share Posted October 3, 2009 The reason it was "somewhere in Europe" is because he is banned from all casinos in Britain Maybe Jack but is he banned from setting up his own casino in a film studio "somehwere in Europe". Jeez the only cliche that was missing was Sir Sean in a tux drinking a shaken not stirred martini Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beverley Posted October 3, 2009 Share Posted October 3, 2009 I will have ?5K on that your not i'll double that bet, cos i am Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yo Yo the Parrot Posted October 3, 2009 Share Posted October 3, 2009 i'll double that bet, cos i am We obviously need Derren Brown to sort this one out cos we both know he is as straight as a die Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beverley Posted October 3, 2009 Share Posted October 3, 2009 We obviously need Derren Brown to sort this one out cos we both know he is as straight as a die aye, straight to bed with the first cute boy he sees lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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